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Apr 4, 2014 8:53 PM

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_ultima_ said:
Happy is better than them both.


you're right, happy kicks some serious ass. lily is pretty ballin' too, who needs people when you have talking, flying badass cats!! :D

FastnessofWheels said:
Makarov is the most kawaii bishie


i just thought of him doing the kawaii senpai notice me thing to mavis!! XD

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VudisJul 27, 2014 6:12 AM
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HA! But if Grey casts iced shell on Natsu he would win! actually, double K.O., but doesn't matter!

pls don't take me seriously.

Also, Grey. Because ice magic is way cooler.
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Apr 5, 2014 5:36 AM

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Gray, he is actually a well developed character, which is pretty much non existent in Fairy tail, his magic is also more interesting and creative than Natsu's which is just burning shit up, hence why Gray's fights are more strategic and Natsu's feature more mid fight powerups and overall he is just way more likeable imo while Natsu is more annoying and feels like a generic shonen hero.

No poll?
Apr 5, 2014 7:07 AM

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Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.
Apr 5, 2014 7:13 AM

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Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.
Apr 5, 2014 8:01 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.
Apr 5, 2014 8:04 AM

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Sv3rr3 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.


The blood Ice only canceled out Time arc. Ice Magic wise she was wiping the floor with Gray. And in an ocean if she had not been emotionally nuked by Ul she would have destroyed Gray
Apr 5, 2014 8:07 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Sv3rr3 said:
Natsu might be stronger, but he'll never surpass Gray in terms of development and depth.
Also it seems like Natsu can never win a major fight without some kind of outside help, how many times are we gonna see him get some temporary bullshit power up to defeat the super evil bad guy of the story arc?
Gray, on the other hand, defeats his enemies by using his wits. In his fight against Ultear, for example, he froze his blood to counter her ability.
To summarize, Gray is the superior character.


LOL what? Gray only beat Ultear cause Ul was in the ocean Otherwise she would have wrecked him easily.


That fight was fairly even actually, both of them got in good hits on eachother. So saying that ''she would have wrecked him easily'' is quite an overstatement. Ultear getting distracted by her emotions was just the nail in the coffin, leading to her defeat.
But this is besides the point, I just gave an example to compare the kind of battles Natsu and Gray have. My point is; Gray is a much better character overall than Natsu, and this reflects in his battles.


The blood Ice only canceled out Time arc. Ice Magic wise she was wiping the floor with Gray. And in an ocean if she had not been emotionally nuked by Ul she would have destroyed Gray


You're just making baseless assumptions, and at the same time ignoring everything I say. I don't feel like debating with someone like that. Peace.
Apr 5, 2014 12:15 PM

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As much as i like Natsu, i hate that he gets all the spotlight.
Apr 6, 2014 3:37 PM

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pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D
Apr 6, 2014 5:32 PM

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Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have
Apr 6, 2014 6:40 PM

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Natsu is far more powerful than Gray. That said, I feel like Gray is the better character. Not being a walking cliche helps.


Darklight0303 said:
Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Geez, you really hate Gray don't you?
Apr 6, 2014 10:30 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
Shomix said:
pitty im so stupid and dnt know how to make a poll -.- so we would see base on votes whos most favourite ... but i think gray wins :D


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Loses faith in humanity, over people having different opinions in an anime discussion forum o_0
Apr 8, 2014 4:43 AM

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Gray is better in almost every way except for strength.
Apr 8, 2014 4:45 PM

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cnt w8 for episode where gray dies ... just to see look on other faces :D his the best , its the sadest moment of fairy tail
Apr 8, 2014 5:48 PM

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Shomix said:
cnt w8 for episode where gray dies ... just to see look on other faces :D his the best , its the sadest moment of fairy tail


Except it really wasn't. It was an asspull that cost us a far superior character
Apr 13, 2014 2:56 PM

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ultear superior -.- ok
Jun 21, 2014 10:06 PM

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Ummm Laxus of course.

Please ignore my banner below and all the Laxus fanart I have drawn because I am DEFINITELY not biased or anything no not me never.
Jun 25, 2014 11:51 PM

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Gray >>>>>> Natsu.

Natsu lacks character development which Gray has. I am not fond of Natsu-type characters to begin with but at least, he used to be okay. Now he is all about nakama-power and is barely developed.

Gray is just plain awesome.

FastnessofWheels said:
Natsu is far more powerful than Gray. That said, I feel like Gray is the better character. Not being a walking cliche helps.


Darklight0303 said:


Thank god that's not the case in japan. I'd lose what little faith in humanity I still have


Geez, you really hate Gray don't you?


It seems like the case. I mean, let others have their opinions but no. If he says so then Natsu-sama is superior than anyone.
Jun 27, 2014 7:43 AM
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Natsu's strength varies according to the plotu he should have never won his fight against Laxus and many others. Gray has plot armor too but his one is less than Natsu Ultear should have killed him.

Without plot armor Gray is stronger with plot armor Natsu wins. Simple as that.
Jun 28, 2014 2:02 AM

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Natsu should win. Why?

Well Natsu should win simply because he made fire that can't be blown away and because he can create flames hotter than ice. When Gray uses ice, it is frozen water. If you think about it, Natsu should win due to virtue of the state of matter changes. Other than that, Natsu can slay dragons and use lightning....while Gray has ice....which conducts lightning!


And if we're going down this line of thought...wouldn't Natsu instantly lose if Gray made an ice train or something? I mean they make Natsu's motion sickness look like he's dying ._.
7starkiller99Jun 28, 2014 10:44 AM
A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!"


Jun 28, 2014 4:31 AM

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HomeAlone said:
Natsu's strength varies according to the plotu he should have never won his fight against Laxus and many others. Gray has plot armor too but his one is less than Natsu Ultear should have killed him.

Without plot armor Gray is stronger with plot armor Natsu wins. Simple as that.


You're forgetting he had HELP with Laxus from Gajeel. Contrary to popular belief Natsu RARELY wins fights on his own. Just cause he gets the last hit in doesn't invalidate the damage done by others leading up to that point.
Jul 13, 2014 3:21 AM

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Gray > Gajeel > Natsu
I like all three though.
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Jul 18, 2014 3:09 PM

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Gray is one of my favorite characters in Fairy Tail, while Natsu's one of the least favorite. He is just an example of the world's unfair part - the one's, who do literally nothing, have more than those who deserve it...

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they should call it ,, Natsu ,, not ,, Fairy tail,, his in spotlight always ...

Exactly.
Jul 18, 2014 3:20 PM

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Gray.
But Natsu cool too.
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Jul 18, 2014 3:33 PM

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Both of them are good

yet i prefer Natsu .. why ?
well , i don't find Natsu stuck in his past and he's always cheerful
while Gray always comes up with Ur Ur Ur Ur all the time

but on the other hand as some of you said yes Gray can show a lot of personalty development while Natsu don't

haha i think Natsu don't need that i love him as he is
Jul 18, 2014 5:37 PM

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Gray is so much cooler, cuter and better than that lame character Natsu.

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Both of them are good

yet i prefer Natsu .. why ?
well , i don't find Natsu stuck in his past and he's always cheerful
while Gray always comes up with Ur Ur Ur Ur all the time

but on the other hand as some of you said yes Gray can show a lot of personalty development while Natsu don't

haha i think Natsu don't need that i love him as he is


natsu is terrible. People prefer characters with actual development. Can't say the same for stupid Natsu.

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Minagatachi said:
Gray > Gajeel > Natsu.


/End thread

Plus this is an easy decision.

I hate Natsu and I love Gray-sama <3
Jul 20, 2014 1:45 AM
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Obviously Natsu.

Fire > Ice
Happy-go Airhead > Miserable gloomy head
Lucy > Juvia (in term of assets)
Red > Blue
Jul 21, 2014 8:48 AM

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Both are average. But i prefer Natsu than Gray (64/100 for Natsu and 62/100 for Gray)
Wendy however in her own class. Need more Gajeel and Laxus involvement in the story.
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Gajeel rapes both of them

This all the way.

But if I HAD to choose, Natsu. TBH I wanna like Gray more, but his fights have always been beta-character fights and he never makes anything awesome with his ice.
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randy1925 said:
Gajeel rapes both of them

This all the way.

But if I HAD to choose, Natsu. TBH I wanna like Gray more, but his fights have always been beta-character fights and he never makes anything awesome with his ice.
Agreed , his "Ice make!" Is so gay, doesn't even look cool.
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ScazoN said:
Old_Raven said:

This all the way.

But if I HAD to choose, Natsu. TBH I wanna like Gray more, but his fights have always been beta-character fights and he never makes anything awesome with his ice.
Agreed , his "Ice make!" Is so gay, doesn't even look cool.


The only two gay characters overall manga are that shitty Natsu and that pathetic faggot Naruto :>

Natsu's flames are generic and incredibily lame. Same repetitive bullshit.
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Gray is an excellent character with good development, and nice range of cool looking spells and moves.


on the other hand Natsu is the worst character in the manga.

Easy choice. Gray takes it 1000 times out of a 1000
Jul 25, 2014 1:37 PM

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Mah boi Gray, easy choice.

Fuck Natsu.
Jul 25, 2014 1:43 PM

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Natsu for eating fire and kicking asses
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Natsu since I'm her in the FT game
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Natsu since I'm her in the FT game


natsu is a chick? that's new lol.
Jul 25, 2014 6:16 PM

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fairy tail is a guilty pleasure of mine, i honestly don't like gray or natsu. Gajeel, levy, happy, and erza are about all i care for.
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they need to give Gray some major power up ... Gray is best ... natsu acts like a nakama moron whole time
Jul 25, 2014 8:39 PM

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In terms of strength, of course Natsu with his millions of layers of plot armor but, overall character, Gray wins. Basing which character is better based on strength is shallow anyway, it just shows how deeply you can think, which clearly, isn't far if you don't even consider personality, development, etc.

But on a side note, Erza destroys them both.
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erza is a mary sue that wins with asspull plot armors all the time.
her win against azuma and minerva were complete bullshit
I don't see the appeal in her
Jul 25, 2014 9:39 PM

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Gray is one of the best characters by far in this manga, very likeable and cool. and shits on most character in general in terms of quality. Period.
Proud to be his fan.

on the other hand, Natsu is just terrible. No character development, always the same usual shtick of being inept. likewise with Gajeel, another terrible character.
Jul 25, 2014 10:11 PM

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In terms of strength, of course Natsu with his millions of layers of plot armor but, overall character, Gray wins. Basing which character is better based on strength is shallow anyway, it just shows how deeply you can think, which clearly, isn't far if you don't even consider personality, development, etc.


Pretty much this. My vote goes for Gray, I love him.
Jul 26, 2014 12:53 AM

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Natsu he is funny, entertaining, protective, a good friend and despite what a lot of people think he does have character development he is serious from the start in the beginning it was a big game in most cases he would goof off until he realized its not a game and people lives are in danger. Knows he needs his friends he used to try to go it alone in Tenrou he realized he need others help and admitted it. Encourages others in turn they encourage him, he has slowly matured over the series rewatch/reread the first chapters/ episodes to more recent ones he is know longer a fearless fool and a man child in maturity only in personality and confident instead of arrogant. Gray was cool in the beginning had cool magic, pretty attractive and had a tragic background became ok in the middle now i'm indifferent to him. His part in the story seems to only revolve around Deliora,Ur and those connected to the two I wish it would branch a bit how about something new. He is one of the worst handled character post time skip just a male tsundere I like pre time skip Gray, lost interest of him after that fight with Ultear. And to add to it some of his fans have become crazy lately what is no one allowed to have different opinions from them.
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I usually like Natsu type characters more than characters like Gray, but I do find Gray much, much better.

Btw, Erza isn't great as she was.
Jul 26, 2014 4:35 AM

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Where's the poll? Anyway, Mystogan beats everyone.
Jul 26, 2014 9:39 AM

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Maira_Kiri said:
erza is a mary sue that wins with asspull plot armors all the time.
her win against azuma and minerva were complete bullshit
I don't see the appeal in her

Very true. I take back my Erza comment, Kagura all the way. In my opinion, her win against Kagura was way worse than against Minerva. At least for Minerva there was a "reason" if you use the word reason loosely. Winning against Kagura was just "Nakama Power".
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Maira_Kiri said:
erza is a mary sue that wins with asspull armors all the time.
her win against azuma and minerva were complete bullshit
I don't see the appeal in her


Fixed.

Later, Erza will reveal her Goddess armor which can defies God rules.

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Lol at both fandoms. Gray fans talk shit about Natsu and vice-versa.


That's one thing that i never understand, all of them so "fanboy" that their brain can't think well. Not even funny at all. What so cool doing that when all of those characters came from same series.
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