Solkiskey said: dont try to figure that one out, people throw that criticism around willy nilly like the pretentious comment yet never actually back it up, its just a go to false criticism people fall back on when they ironically want to sound more clever in criticism, while it does apply to some shows out there they rarely are ever used in the right contextIt made attempts at being intelligent? Wat |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Lol poor OP, all he wanted to do was start a discussion. But I did want to see how everyone felt about the anime in general. I like Space Dandy for its creativity, randomness, and philosophy (?). However, I'm wondering if the "all star" cast and directors have a specific direction they want to take this show to... Every episode I'm left confused and wanting something more. The fact that the show is episodic doesn't help at all either. I guess it's just my preference to prefer anime with some sort of focus, but what did you guys think? Do these adventures seem to have even a vague sense of connection to one another that I'm not seeing? Or is it really just a hodgepodge of various adventures that Dandy and his crew goes on? I'd like to see if anyone has like a mindblowing prediction explaining the randomness of this show. P.S. I do have to agree with some of the users in this discussion that the characters are not necessarily that appealing, or even that well developed. Dandy's always Dandy, Meow always Meow, and QT always QT. Iunno, I'd say the show needs more boobs... |
| I like the show, but its nothing amazing at all. Its a 7/10 maybe 6/10 show in my eyes. I feel like the series is very inconsistent week-to-week on whether or not it is any good. The art is always amazing and the soundtrack stays at a steady average, but the dialogue and stories never find any consistent ground. They can come off as touching (Adele episode) or they can be really cheesy and cringe worthy (Meow's home planet episode). The humor is hit or miss too. Episode 6 being the biggest miss so far. I guess this show isn't really a show you're going to be laughing out loud at, but it can bring some memorable lines (e.g. zombie episode "SAY UUUUH ONE MORE TIME"). All in all, not a bad show but one that I'm sure will be forgotten soon after its airing. |
Heredity said: Joshua1207 said: I feel like the series is very inconsistent week-to-week on whether or not it is any good. They can come off as touching (Adele episode) or they can be really cheesy and cringe worthy (Meow's home planet episode). pakoko said: lollerskates. it's like you guys have never watched television shows that aren't anime or dramas.P.S. I do have to agree with some of the users in this discussion that the characters are not necessarily that appealing, or even that well developed. Dandy's always Dandy, Meow always Meow, and QT always QT. Iunno, I'd say the show needs more boobs... Uhh, just because a show is episodic doesn't excuse the fact that it is inconsistent in quality. I watch a lot of episodic comedies and they're far more consistent than this show. |
| Yeah, I'm still on this "hype train" and don't give a damn what other people think. I love how many episodes end with a non-sequitur WTF did I just watch. The show does have it's problems, namely inconsistent quality/tone/humor(mainly this) from episode to episode. But that is to be expected from a show that dares to try new things; some ideas will be great ( episodes 4,5,7,9,10), some pretty good (2,3,6*,11) , others were all over the place in terms of tone and/or plot (1,8). I do believe this show would have faded into obscurity if someone other than Watanabe and some other studio made the show. *[I liked it because I felt the theme was how stupid war really is, and then they make it as absurd as possible by making garments the reason for the war (well maybe because they forgot); plus I enjoyed the cold war's MAD (Mutually assured destruction) policy at the end so both sides lost and then the smoothly animated space surfing scene was the icing. Maybe I'm one of the few that enjoyed this one, but whatever. I will watch this show till the bitter end, even if it becomes dumb fun like Future Diary(Space Dandy is much better than this world of a lunatic god and his parade of knife wielding psychos, however I enjoyed every minute of it despite its faults) or FLCL/TTGL (the only mecha shows I really loved, others took themselves too seriously, Eva was alright though-everyone had some sort of insecurity complex but fell apart at the end imo). Anyways this is about Space Dandy, sorry for derailing. I do hope the the 2nd cour is more consistent overall in terms of humor and plotting but with WTF moments as well. When I first saw Champloo, I did not think it would have any sort of ending, but I was surprised and enjoyed it (I think Mugen had more funny scenes than Dandy, but when Dandy hits, it's very good.) I believe this show may follow something like that with Scarlet getting involved (this is more of a fantasy, i mean wishful thinking) in the main plot. Don't know how the "many worlds" theory that everyone has been talking about will turn out; I'm kinda against the idea unless they do it very clever. In whatever case, I will continue to watch even if it is not the next CB or GitS. |
| I don't know. I think it's really enjoyable, but the episodic narrative and the complete lack of continuity, made me lose interest and not keep up with the series, just like Samurai Champloo but to a larger extent in Dandy, since Champloo has continuity within it's episodic narrative. I just watch an episode every once in a while at random. I love the Japanese voice acting, Suwabe Junichi is awesome and the references to western culture are amusing. |
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Dr_Smurph said: I think if Space Dandy would have been presented by another studio and director there is a chance after the first three episodes I would be agreeing this show was mediocre at best. However after sticking around I find the episodic style of this show and the characters can be quite entertaining. The animation is above average and the voice actors dub/sub are all doing a fine job. There have been plenty of episodes that felt experimental yet fun. Some even getting close to the feelings you would get watching Cowboy Bebop or Samurai Champloo. The answer to your question. Yes, and I am happy I stuck around for the ride. It's not perfect, but it's not bad either. It's fun, it's sometimes serious and sad, and over everything it has boobies. You just can't lose with those guiding the way, choo choo Baby. So basically you are going to say it's good even though it isn't simply because the director happened to make other shows that were actually good? There's a word for that. |
| You're trying too hard, OP. I can understand why someone would dislike this show, but really? Just ride the Dandy train, baby!! Choo choo!! |
| Really creative and amazing anime in my eyes. I generally like episodic anime anyways. Some episodes remind me of mushishi where you have to find your own meaning to an episode. Just wanted to say that OP sounds autistic as hell |
| I am still hype train myself I like this anime a lot. |
| It's got a bit old, but still a fun ride. |
| This show is awesome O_o Why force yourself to watch something you don't like? |
| Ha very few on still aboard the train. This show fell of the map after that episode with the freaky boobs. I tell you when Kuroko, magi, and kill la kill ends soon there is not much to watch at all besides Hunter X hunter. |
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| The comedy, the characters, the simple themes, and the music(just look at the 2 minute video on my profile Solkiskey said: Some people like to browse MAL drunk.It made attempts at being intelligent? Wat |
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Heredity said: Joshua1207 said: it's not just a comedy though, lol. have you considered some of the episodes aren't actually supposed to be funny?Heredity said: Joshua1207 said: I feel like the series is very inconsistent week-to-week on whether or not it is any good. They can come off as touching (Adele episode) or they can be really cheesy and cringe worthy (Meow's home planet episode). pakoko said: lollerskates. it's like you guys have never watched television shows that aren't anime or dramas.P.S. I do have to agree with some of the users in this discussion that the characters are not necessarily that appealing, or even that well developed. Dandy's always Dandy, Meow always Meow, and QT always QT. Iunno, I'd say the show needs more boobs... Uhh, just because a show is episodic doesn't excuse the fact that it is inconsistent in quality. I watch a lot of episodic comedies and they're far more consistent than this show. That's great and all. I mentioned I liked the episode were it wasn't supposed to be funny (the Adele episode, probably my favorite episode). I am saying the quality of the show is inconsistent. I don't care if it's trying to be a comedy one week and a drama the next or whatever. I am saying that they don't do it well and some episodes just fall flat. Examples of were it fell flat when going for drama are episodes 2 (well, I think the story near the end was trying to be sad) and 10. Episode 6 is a prime example of where the comedy was just terrible. Once again, it is obvious that its not trying to be a comedy every week, that isn't the problem the show is having when it comes to quality inconsistencies. |
| At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. |
sentience said: At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. This show is better than Nisekoi, Noragami, Hamatora, Kill la Kill, Nagi to Asukara and Golden Time? |
SolviteSekai said: In my opinion, yes.sentience said: At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. This show is better than Nisekoi, Noragami, Hamatora, Kill la Kill, Nagi to Asukara and Golden Time? |
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| why? The only 2 reasons I can think of for this show to still be so popular on Mal despite abysmal preorder sales and a general lack of quality are: 1. It is dubbed, so MAL Dub watchers can comment on it. 2. It is somewhat connected to Cowboy Bebop, leading fanboy groups to defend the director despite his failure. |
SolviteWoTaberuMar 22, 2014 1:29 AM
| I'm still on the hype train, yes. I love this show, it's just fun. |
Nope said: SolviteSekai said: In my opinion, yes.sentience said: At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. This show is better than Nisekoi, Noragami, Hamatora, Kill la Kill, Nagi to Asukara and Golden Time? A plotless mediocre comedy anime like space dandy can't come close to something like kill la kill Kill a Kill has good story, good characters, good villains, a lot of action and a lot of plot twists, and top of that it is a good mix of comedy and seriousness. Space dandy doesn't have any of these things. The difference between the two is like heaven and hell. |
| Space Dandy is a fucking brilliant show, which I say with no hesitation. It's the only anime I truly look forward to each week. I have no qualms being pretentious and saying that not appreciating it is simply lacking in certain intellectual and imaginative areas on the users part. The anime embodies a brilliant explosion of imagination that one can only surmise not appreciating is lack of said imagination. Also I believe the rating is from such haters as present in this thread. It's extremely easily provable too. Simply look at the 5/5 ratings in every episode, they overwhelmingly crush other ratings. |
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LuciferIAm said: Space Dandy is a fucking brilliant show, which I say with no hesitation. It's the only anime I truly look forward to each week. I have no qualms being pretentious and saying that not appreciating it is simply lacking in certain intellectual and imaginative areas on the users part. The anime embodies a brilliant explosion of imagination that one can only surmise not appreciating is lack of said imagination. Also I believe the rating is from such haters as present in this thread. It's extremely easily provable too. Simply look at the 5/5 ratings in every episode, they overwhelmingly crush other ratings. Your avatar and imagination statement complement each other perfectly. |
| I'm personally surprised by how many people are praising this series. I find the jokes too repetitive and not very funny. The animation quality is very inconsistent between episodes. I find a lot of the episodes to be boring as well. I can only think of 3 episodes that I liked. I'll likely finish the series, but I'm definitely not excited to watch it every week. I've seen 9 of the episodes so far and it is definitely not worthy all this praise. |
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| If you take this show so seriously, comparing it to Watanabe's other works, you're not going to enjoy it. That said, Space Dandy is a tremendous show for what it does and I thoroughly enjoy it. |
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Heredity said: then why'd you single out it being an episodic comedy? obviously i thought you believed every episode was trying to be funny. I actually never specifically called this show an episodic comedy but rather said I watch a lot of shows that are episodic comedies. And in my first post I didn't even mention anything at all about episodic comedies. And comedy is the main focus of this show, despite not every week being a comedy episode. This conversation is just turning into strawmanning at this point. I've already made my point. |
| I find the show to be...just OK. Nothing has really stood out too much, but it can be quite funny at times, although not as funny as others. I actually like the discontinuity of it. I only wish Dr. Gel will get more screen time. Of course we're nearing the half way point, so it's still a bit early to be making final conclusions. |
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| It's had a few good(even great) episodes: 5, 9, and 10 especially. And the second half of the zombie episode is one of the rare cases where the comedy actually worked, but it's mostly been disappointing. However, one can't say this show isn't creative, that's for sure. |
| I used to love this show before reading this thread, now my eyes have been opened I realize this show is terrible: flat characters, no plot, absurdly stupid humor... (Sarcastic mode for the above comment ) Yeah, while I do agree that some of the episodes are better than others and the humor sometimes falls flat but that is to be expected with the narration style. I find the episode concepts creative for the most part, love the characters the way they are, plenty of comedy that leaves me rolling on the floor which makes up for the "miss" jokes. I think the animation is excellent and yeah it may have minor inconsistencies (which is fine for a comedy show) but the action scenes go all out. This is just my opinion and I am not trying to convince anyone that the show is this or that. When I watch a show that doesn't meet my expectations nor entertains me, I just simply drop the show and move on. I recently read a review on kotaku in which the author states he does not like the humor of Space Dandy (which is perfectly fine) and compares the show's comedy to some harem anime ("oh boy, one of those shows" I think to myself) as well as defines humor as "subverting expectations" (fair enough). He goes to state the comedy in "Space Dandy" is more or less one-liners or crude boob jokes. Meanwhile the comedy in this harem show is "layered," as jokes are built on top of each other (I thought this was known as a running gag, but have not seen the show in question and didn't understand the humor in his example, but w/e). Anyways, I thought to myself that I'm glad I am easily amused and don't need my comedies to have any sort of "structure," maybe I'm stupid like Dandy himself, idk. The point is that this show will probably not appeal to everyone; also those that wanted the show to be like "Cowboy Bebop" (I mean in terms of overall caliber) are going to be disappointed. Before the show aired, I read an article(Can't find it now so I can only paraphrase what I remember) about Shinichiro Watanabe stating he did not set out to outdo "Cowboy Bebop," but he wanted to make a comedy and that his team "went out of their way to make the show as stupid funny as possible"(something like that anyways.) I'm glad he went this route as it would be very difficult/ambitious to make another Cowboy Bebop as I would think he probably could not foretell Cowboy Bebop would make it the top tens (if not number one) in many Top-anime lists. Know my post is getting too long so I will finish by saying I enjoy Space Dandy for what the show is instead of contrasting how it is Not like anime such and such. |
| Well it is not as good as CB, SC, M+ and kids on the slope but it is still ok for what it delivers |
| It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
pakoko said: Lol poor OP, all he wanted to do was start a discussion. But I did want to see how everyone felt about the anime in general. I like Space Dandy for its creativity, randomness, and philosophy (?). However, I'm wondering if the "all star" cast and directors have a specific direction they want to take this show to... Every episode I'm left confused and wanting something more. The fact that the show is episodic doesn't help at all either. I guess it's just my preference to prefer anime with some sort of focus, but what did you guys think? Do these adventures seem to have even a vague sense of connection to one another that I'm not seeing? Or is it really just a hodgepodge of various adventures that Dandy and his crew goes on? I'd like to see if anyone has like a mindblowing prediction explaining the randomness of this show. P.S. I do have to agree with some of the users in this discussion that the characters are not necessarily that appealing, or even that well developed. Dandy's always Dandy, Meow always Meow, and QT always QT. Iunno, I'd say the show needs more boobs... Clearly they don't have a clear direction |
| It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
| Im getting pretty bored myself watching this show. The only reason Im still watching this is because I dont like dropping anime. Im actually surprise its getting a next season. |
AsianKungFuMar 23, 2014 9:30 AM
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| I like watching SD because it gives me something most anime nowadays don't - actual genuine enjoyment. Some anime are just a chore to get through, but this one actually has me looking forward every week and will be really sad when it ends. |
SolviteSekai said: sentience said: At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. This show is better than Nisekoi, Noragami, Hamatora, Kill la Kill, Nagi to Asukara and Golden Time? Other than Noragami and Kill la Kill, I don't care about the rest. |
| It is mediocre. Don't care if it's not trying to be "intelligent" but it's far to abstract half the time and not overly entertaining. zerochicken said: SolviteSekai said: sentience said: At least this is better than most things that are airing right now. Quality isn't consistent but it is still fairly entertaining on certain weeks. This show is better than Nisekoi, Noragami, Hamatora, Kill la Kill, Nagi to Asukara and Golden Time? Nisekoi = lameass romance at least average only cuz shaft Noragami = above average traditional urban fantasy, good music Hamatora = average urban fantasy with boring flashy art design Kill a Kill = gurren lagann with chicks which is good and so is art Nagi no Asakura = angst + kid = garbage, above average art Golden Time = above average romance, mediocre art, Space dandy = great art direction, weird story but at least is fresh All that. All of that made me laugh. |
IZEROIIMar 23, 2014 11:16 AM
| After ep5, it's mediocre imo |
| just to add how the hype trains till hasnt dissapointed, ep 12 is one of the funniest episodes ive seen since i finished watching gintama a year and a half ago. That chamelionian is the best |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I feel the need to reiterate again how many haters there seem to be for this show. It's got an average of 7.6 (my god what a joke so many shows out there that pale in comparison) yet if you just go through the episode topics, 5/5 is not just the winner, its OVERWHELMINGLY the winner in every poll, I've read nearly every post as the weeks gone by simply because of how much I enjoy space dandy and I can honestly say 90% of them are praise. |
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Dr_Smurph said: LuciferIAm said: I feel the need to reiterate again how many haters there seem to be for this show. It's got an average of 7.6 (my god what a joke so many shows out there that pale in comparison) yet if you just go through the episode topics, 5/5 is not just the winner, its OVERWHELMINGLY the winner in every poll, I've read nearly every post as the weeks gone by simply because of how much I enjoy space dandy and I can honestly say 90% of them are praise. I don't have any problem with Space Dandy but using an episode discussion thread poll as your guide to if the show is good or not is a weak argument. The majority of people who come to episode discussions like the show to begin with. True this. And other shows of the season have even higher percentages of 5/5s. I haven't seen majority of the other season's shows, but Kill la Kill for example has a lot in the 90s. |
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