| I like them with a good story (as everyone else have already mentioned) that doesn't just revolve wholly on the main yuri characters. A story with substance and good character development is always the best. And it doesn't have to show much of the yuri-action parts to say that it is indeed good (though that wouldn't really hurt). |
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| I didn't really want to start an entire new topic, But I'd like to clarify something Iv'e always been a little confused about. (^_^); Do we, as GL fans identify with the term 'Yuri' over 'Shoujo Ai' ? Yuri in some cases appears to apply to Hentai GL, in others it applies to the entire GL genre and doesn't seem to imply explicity like the term Yaoi. Which is separate to Shonen-Ai... So I was wondering what do you guys use to describe the genre? Do you identify a difference between Yuri/Shoujo Ai? or do you just prefer one umbrella term? I'm also asking because I have seen some epic debates about what the term 'Shoujo Ai' can imply in a genre. Personally I prefer to just use Yuri because to me the term summarises all forms of GL. So, thoughts? anyone? ^^ |
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| me both too. ^_^ strawberry panic is my favorite anime but i guess i go for the fanservice between the lovers more. hehe ^////^ |
Fallow said: I didn't really want to start an entire new topic, But I'd like to clarify something Iv'e always been a little confused about. (^_^); Do we as GL fans identify with the term 'Yuri' over 'Shoujo Ai' ? Yuri in some cases appears to apply to Hentai GL, in others it applies to the entire GL genre and doesn't seem to imply explicity like the term Yaoi. Which is separate to Shounen-Ai... So I was wondering what do you guys use to describe the genre? Do you identify a difference between Yuri/Shoujo Ai? or do you just prefer one umbrella term? personally I prefer to just use Yuri because to me the term applies to all forms of GL. So, thoughts? anyone? ^^ well yeah there is a different meaning to yuri and shoujo ai as in yaoi and shounen ai. yuri is more explicit in the anime in term of meaning more sex,naked,and touching. shoujo-ai is more of a lovey dovey thing, like confess,kiss,little fanservice. |
| Not really sure what kind I like, but I would say everything as long as there are shoujo-ai/yuri XD. |
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| I too used to refer to mild romance as shoujo ai and wild sex as yuri, but after the recent discovery that 'shoujo ai' is only a "westernization" and not the correct one, I go only by yuri, be it HLS or simple hugs. This article should help, especially the "Japanese vs. western usage" one. |
| As for my preference in yuri, anything goes. From wild romantic ones through comedy to action. Simply said, I watch series BECAUSE there is yuri in it, and only rate them according to their quality. Nevertheless, the one thing I'd really love to watch would be a slow paced slice-of-life series like Aria mixed together with some romantic yuri component and maybe a lil' bit of a good continuous story included in the recipe. |
yamiperv said: Fallow said: I didn't really want to start an entire new topic, But I'd like to clarify something Iv'e always been a little confused about. (^_^); Do we as GL fans identify with the term 'Yuri' over 'Shoujo Ai' ? Yuri in some cases appears to apply to Hentai GL, in others it applies to the entire GL genre and doesn't seem to imply explicity like the term Yaoi. Which is separate to Shounen-Ai... So I was wondering what do you guys use to describe the genre? Do you identify a difference between Yuri/Shoujo Ai? or do you just prefer one umbrella term? personally I prefer to just use Yuri because to me the term applies to all forms of GL. So, thoughts? anyone? ^^ well yeah there is a different meaning to yuri and shoujo ai as in yaoi and shounen ai. yuri is more explicit in the anime in term of meaning more sex,naked,and touching. shoujo-ai is more of a lovey dovey thing, like confess,kiss,little fanservice. Aye aye!! Basically this is also my thought of the matter between yuri and shoujo-ai. They ARE different. Imo, someone who likes JUST shoujo-ai might not like yuri at all (most prolly because of the more mature contents they have) and I know someone like that. On the other hand, I think them ppol who can be conned as yuri fans can appreciate all kinds of GL animes because, well, it is GL. |
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| I don't like the term 'shoujo-ai' - it's artificial and doesn't sound that great anyway. Yuri, on the other hand is a clean, lovely word, that seems to describe GL well. While I'm at it, both yaoi and shounen-ai are outdated and misused terms. Shounen-ai stood for super-angsty dramatic boys love that was produced in the 70s by authors such as Takemiya Keiko. It does not exist anymore. The same as Gothic movement is no more (the only difference being, that Gothic is dead for quite a few centuries). Yaoi stands for explicit, usually PWP doujinshi of already existing series. Boys love is the term to go :] And anyways, I don't really see a reason to separate a genre into two on basis of sex happening (or not). What kind of thinking is that anyway? I could understand splitting Yuri into two on basis 'either it's Love or Akogare (admiration)', but that's about it. |
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Lunk said: And anyways, I don't really see a reason to separate a genre into two on basis of sex happening (or not). What kind of thinking is that anyway? I could understand splitting Yuri into two on basis 'either it's Love or Akogare (admiration)', but that's about it. I'm with you =) Is it Koi or Akogare? Sex could happen or not; if it's between two girls, it's yuri. |
Fallow said: Do we, as GL fans identify with the term 'Yuri' over 'Shoujo Ai' ? 1) I don't "identify" as either. I am a fan of Yuri/"shoujo Ai" 2) I hate made up Western words that do little more than identify me as an outsider who doesn't understand what he is talking about. 3) The sex/no-sex distinction between the two is an example of this as it is little more than a moralistic projection of Christian/Humanist values onto a non-Christian culture. |
| I watch it because I'm a perv |
| I watch/read shoujo ai/yuri for the relationships and their development. Nothing melts me more than girls confessing their love towards another girl. Especially so if the road there is angsty or a tough struggle in some way. Then again, I enjoy this in shounen ai and even straight romance. Though it's far from as good when it comes to "normal" romance. I see angsty shoujo ai as the cutest thing ever. The fan service I can do without, I do enjoy it but I definitely don't want it to push the relationship away even the slightest. |
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| i Love yuri/shoujo-ai animes they have beautiful stories going through all the motiopns. if only they were more out there. :( i think we are being robbed |
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| i love both. the long road to romance, straight up romance, or even that 'other' straight up 'romance'. ;D EVERYTHING that will keep me coming back for more. O.O well not fanservice, i enjoy it, but i can also do without. which constanty brings me back to the question...WHY ISN'T THERE ENOUGH YURI/SHOUJO-AI ANIMES/MANGAS OUT THERE?!?!?! >:O!!! |
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| I watch shoujo ai for the plot and eye candy.^^ Preferably those with angst,denial and hardships... Woo,and i agree with Cindy's last sentence. MOAR!!! |
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| Pretty much whatever I can get my hands on really. There isn't enough out there to be picky. As it is, it is hard to find a good version of either considering most of the shows that have the theme usually end up finishing the show as a "passing phase" of the character. -_- |
CindysSoul said: which constanty brings me back to the question...WHY ISN'T THERE ENOUGH YURI/SHOUJO-AI ANIMES/MANGAS OUT THERE?!?!?! >:O!!! Because then it would degenerate into mass marketed crap? |
nexist418 said: Because then it would degenerate into mass marketed crap? Out of the normal mass marketed crap there are quite a few diamonds. I'd rather have consistent every season with 3 shoujo-ai/yuri shows and 2 of them are crap to the 1 shoujo-ai/yuri show every other season. I'm all for quality over quantity, but when we get shows they either are fantastic or bomb very hard. The standard "mass marketed crap" at least has a (at minimum) per season 1 in 7 chance of having a good show. |
| I mostly watch them for the relationships, especially one where the characters are very devoted to each other. It makes me a little heartsick sometimes (bawwww) but also makes me think perhaps one day I'll find the Nadie to my Ellis or the Kaon to my Himiko, (I know I probably won't find someone exactly like that, but hopefully you can see where I'm trying to go with this). I'm also not adverse to the odd bit of fanservice. But I must admit that one of the factors which encouaged me to watch El Cazador de la Bruja when I started to was that the two protagonists didn't have huge boobs. The reason I'm liking Strawberry Panic so far is because the series is focusing on the relationships between other characters besides Nadisa and Shizuma. But I'm only halfway through so far. |
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| I enjoy all types of Yuri, be they fanservice or a long drawn out series. Although I will admit that I prefer relationships to just sex. But then again, I believe most of you do too. I think we are all attracted to Yuri because of the way the relationships (most at least) are made to seem realistic. They go through hardships, misunderstandings, admiration, and eventually (or rather hopefully) are lead to total devotion and love. That is what most people want their relationships to be like. I throughly enjoy Strawberry Panic!, in fact, I own the series. I also liked KnM, I believe the "rape" had the alterior motive of attempting to make Himeko hate Chikane. In order to allow Himeko to be able to kill Chikane more easily and was more then just blatant fanservice. We all can agree, however, that Yuri is an undoubtable expression of beautiful and meaningful love. |
| Well said. |
| my favorite yuri i have watched was Strawberry Panic.. I like Shizuma x Nagisa pairing and Hikaru and Amane pairing..kawaii desu~ |
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OGT said: I watch yuri for the rather complex, frequently emotional relationships that usually develop between the characters. The fact that both characters in the relationship are girls is icing on the cake. I also like the very gentle and soft feel yuri anime/manga tend to have. It feels more like the way love ideally should be, rather than the way love is. Of course, that's a function of fiction, but... Same for me =) |
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| Yuri relationships just feels a lot more pure and romantic than many of the male/female pairings in anime, a lot of which focus on the need for the male character to protect the helpless female character. I'm so tired of that, and I know it does happen in yuri pairings too, but it's not as bad. The stories for yuri relationships generally tend to be better explored too, rather than the "you're a cute guy and you're a cute girl, why wouldn't you get together?" scenarios. As for the fan service, I could take it or leave it, I don't really need it as I have an over-active imagination already ;) |
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| Both ^^ But sometimes, It depends on the characters....if they are my liking...I would watch xD |
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| I like it consentual. >.< I like it when I can respect the characters, they're realistic and grow over the course of the story. I like romantic shows over pointless fanservice. Fanservice that fits, though, is ok. Sometimes a plus, if done well, but usually it's not, really. I like m/m and m/f (f/m?) as well, but f/f is my favorite. :) I'd be interested to see a show that could handle an open relationship or polyamorous one in a convincing way. But I can't think of even a bad example of such a thing. I like shows that fall into my other favorite genres... sci-fi and fantasy. Detective or sports anime GL would be great too. Does such a thing exist? I like shows that show the further development of the relationship after they start going out. |
| I like sweet stories with a lot of character development to them. I don't like a lot of angst mind you, or echii. The more innocent the story the more I enjoy it. If I want sex I can just go to my wife for it, I'm a married dyke btw. Kat |
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| maria sama ga miteru!!!^^ |
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| For me I like it when they explain why they are in love. Fanservece can come after that. |
| my preferred yuri is the adult women, slice of life type, that are for either josei or seinen demographics (meaning enjoyed by adults) in recent years it's mostly manga since yuri hardly ever makes it to anime. to be honest I look at the art style as well, because the moe type of "adult" women with a face of a toddler and gigantic tits is a no for me, even if in some bizarre AU the story is good, which 99% of the times is not lol, those also tend to be either shounen which I never touch, or hentai, that do not interest me. Josei and Seine, yuri manga tend to have both good story lines, and good sex in them. |
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