| 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. |
Baman said: For me, CG started sucking when the robots started flying. Loved them when they rolled around, on the ground. In fact, they should remake the show to get rid of all this flying bullshit.5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. |
| both Geass season got 10/10 from me.. i absolutely loved them |
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llxwarbirdxll said: That also broke much of my suspension of disbelief. Seriously, in the first season, the flying, imba mechas were all special prototypes, and then suddenly everyone had them, and not to mention flying battleships and WoMD delivering floating castles.For me, CG started sucking when the robots started flying. Loved them when they rolled around, on the ground. In fact, they should remake the show to get rid of all this flying bullshit. |
Baman said: And then the BEAMSPAM FUCKING EVERYWHERE shit started. Everyone got their own Strike Freedoms and started wiping out entire armies single-handedly. IMO, they should've just stuck with the Sutherlands and have the Lancelot be the only special prototype in the entire show.llxwarbirdxll said: That also broke much of my suspension of disbelief. Seriously, in the first season, the flying, imba mechas were all special prototypes, and then suddenly everyone had them, and not to mention flying battleships and WoMD delivering floating castles.For me, CG started sucking when the robots started flying. Loved them when they rolled around, on the ground. In fact, they should remake the show to get rid of all this flying bullshit. |
r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Can you explain why you use the abbreviation, "u", while still spelling out the word, 'yourself", completely?Baman said: can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. |
llxwarbirdxll said: r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Can you explain why you use the abbreviation, "u", while still spelling out the word, 'yourself", completely?Baman said: can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. He obviously enjoyed CGR2, and honestly wants to know why you didn't like it. Stop trolling. |
Enigmatica said: I didn't say I didn't like it; Baman did. Plus, I already explained what I don't like about it. I think you're the one that should stop trolling.llxwarbirdxll said: r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Can you explain why you use the abbreviation, "u", while still spelling out the word, 'yourself", completely?Baman said: can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. He obviously enjoyed CGR2, and honestly wants to know why you didn't like it. Stop trolling. |
r1AnimeWatcher25 said: It should be pretty apparent, really. This kind of story relies on a carefully constructed plot and realistically portrayed characters, but when characters are turned into plot devices rather than proper individuals, and chains of events does not seem logical, it is a coup de grace for a series of this genre.can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. |
BamanApr 26, 2009 8:04 AM
Baman said: I think your arguement is not that good. As the strory progresses the characters grow and fill in certain roles. a example is shirley she loved lelouch but he never really payed attension to her untill she found out he was zero and then he erased her mind,then she got her mermory back cause of the letter and you know the rest. The china arc was not pointless because thats how he grew his army . Oh and about the flying parts of the nightmares if you watch the show then u know that rakshata and loyde was trying to out do each other and when would u want to see c2 get her memory back when lelouch is dead, come on man it would not be interesting and good for the story and i think it was lelouch mom that was inside that girl with the pink hair that gave her back her memory im not sure.r1AnimeWatcher25 said: It should be pretty apparent, really. This kind of story relies on a carefully constructed plot and realistically portrayed characters, but when characters are turned into plot devices rather than proper individuals, and chains of events does not seem logical, it is a coup de grace for a series of this genre.can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. |
r1AnimeWatcher25 said: ...Says the barely literate fucktard.llxwarbirdxll said: I forgot little girls are the stupidest creatures in the world lolr1AnimeWatcher25 said: Can you explain why you use the abbreviation, "u", while still spelling out the word, 'yourself", completely?Baman said: can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Baman said: I think your arguement is not that good. As the strory progresses the characters grow and fill in certain roles. a example is shirley she loved lelouch but he never really payed attension to her untill she found out he was zero and then he erased her mind,then she got her mermory back cause of the letter and you know the rest. The china arc was not pointless because thats how he grew his army . Oh and about the flying parts of the nightmares if you watch the show then u know that rakshata and loyde was trying to out do each other and when would u want to see c2 get her memory back when lelouch is dead, come on man it would not be interesting and good for the story and i think it was lelouch mom that was inside that girl with the pink hair that gave her back her memory im not sure.r1AnimeWatcher25 said: It should be pretty apparent, really. This kind of story relies on a carefully constructed plot and realistically portrayed characters, but when characters are turned into plot devices rather than proper individuals, and chains of events does not seem logical, it is a coup de grace for a series of this genre.can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. 1. She didn't get her memories back from a letter, she got them from Jeremiah's Geass Canceller. 2. Lelouch had an army before the China arc. In fact, he used this army to fight against the Chinese, who were after him. If the China arc was there so Lelouch could lolgetanarmy, it was really unnecessary. 3. The Gawain, the first flying mech in Geass, was already being produced by Schneizel, and not Lloyd or Laktasha. Besides, even if they weren't in the show, the flying mechs would've came eventually, one way or another, due to pressure from Sunrise's sponsors, who are usually toy companies. 4. Baman was pointing out the fact that CC's amnesia was a contrived plot device that has no place in a real plot. Goddamn, if you're going to fanboy about a show, at least pay attention to it, when you're watching it. Also, brush up on your English; your post was painful to read. |
llxwarbirdxllApr 26, 2009 11:34 AM
llxwarbirdxll said: AHHHHHHH i hate youuuu lolr1AnimeWatcher25 said: ...Says the barely literate fucktard.llxwarbirdxll said: I forgot little girls are the stupidest creatures in the world lolr1AnimeWatcher25 said: Can you explain why you use the abbreviation, "u", while still spelling out the word, 'yourself", completely?Baman said: can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing 5 is the middle score. The second season was a trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing with dozens of Xanatos roulettes thrown in in order to fuel the craze and keep people from noticing the crumbling framework. If they had only managed to put forth a proper, somewhat logical story with characters that have at least some depth, but it felt like they were desperately trying to cram as much twists and turns and eyecatching cliffhangers as possible into it. The score was higher before, but as I see new series, I always go back to reflect on my scoring parameters, and compared to many other series, CGr2 failed catastrophically as far as I am concerned. I'd probably be giving it a much higher score if I hadn't seen other, better examples of the same genres. r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Baman said: I think your arguement is not that good. As the strory progresses the characters grow and fill in certain roles. a example is shirley she loved lelouch but he never really payed attension to her untill she found out he was zero and then he erased her mind,then she got her mermory back cause of the letter and you know the rest. The china arc was not pointless because thats how he grew his army . Oh and about the flying parts of the nightmares if you watch the show then u know that rakshata and loyde was trying to out do each other and when would u want to see c2 get her memory back when lelouch is dead, come on man it would not be interesting and good for the story and i think it was lelouch mom that was inside that girl with the pink hair that gave her back her memory im not sure.r1AnimeWatcher25 said: It should be pretty apparent, really. This kind of story relies on a carefully constructed plot and realistically portrayed characters, but when characters are turned into plot devices rather than proper individuals, and chains of events does not seem logical, it is a coup de grace for a series of this genre.can u please explain yourself when u say trainwreck with plotholes, unrealistic character portrayals and general bad writing Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. 1. She didn't get her memories back from a letter, she got them from Jeremiah's Geass Canceller. 2. Lelouch had an army before the China arc. In fact, he used this army to fight against the Chinese, who were after him. If the China arc was there so Lelouch could lolgetanarmy, it was really unnecessary. 3. The Gawain, the first flying mech in Geass, was already being produced by Schneizel, and not Lloyd or Laktasha. Besides, even if they weren't in the show, the flying mechs would've came eventually, one way or another, due to pressure from Sunrise's sponsors, who are usually toy companies. 4. Baman was pointing out the fact that CC's amnesia was a contrived plot device that has no place in a real plot. Goddamn, if you're going to fanboy about a show, at least pay attention to it, when you're watching it. Also, brush up on your English; your post was painful to read. |
| some liked the show and some didnt /argument |
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Ninjawafers said: some liked the show and some didnt /argument I think it's more... some enjoyed the show and thought it was beautifully crafted, some enjoyed the show yet could see just how majorly flawed it was, and then for some the flaws got in the way of their enjoyment. Baman is correct though. Dusty agrees with Baman you see, and I agree with Dusty. Baman said: Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. That's a quote from something right? |
BigSimo said: Not that I can think of. Might have been unconsciously influenced by something though.Baman said: Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. That's a quote from something right? |
Baman said: BigSimo said: Not that I can think of. Might have been unconsciously influenced by something though.Baman said: Creating a story is like baking a cake, the right ingredients has to be used in the right way, at the right time in order to achieve maximum success. There's apples in apple pies and usually some form of jam in many other cakes, and while most people would agree that these are the best parts of the cake, one still can't have too much of it, a pile of apples or a glass of jam with some cake crumbs on top aren't really cakes at all. That's a quote from something right? Well, if it's not a quote or related to a quote, it SHOULD be made a quote. |
| lol for one side complaining about CG because of lack of realistic plot and another trying to say it's realistic. It's pretty obvious that you shouldn't look too closely at all the ham and cheese in CG, the first episode introduces giant robots that, I may mention, are wearing the equivalent of roller skates. And they can fire off their hands to get away. And the main character can kill people by staring at them and one of the characters is immortal. Did I mention that a second class citizen is given the military's top-secret super-prototype giant robot, despite the fact that he has no combat experience in giant robots, yet still manages to use it perfectly. And said character can run across walls dodging automated turrets and can jump, flat footed, twenty feet in the air while doing a 1080 degree roundhouse kick. And it just gets worse, in terms of realism. But, then again, nobody ever complained about lack of realism in TTGL. Ignore the realism (or lack of it) and just enjoy the show. If you watch it with a metric ton of suspension of disbelief, it's one of (and possibly the) best works ever made. |
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| Things not being realistic is not the main problem, the problem for me was that it brazenly tried to put forth an epic political/war/drama plot, and failed at it. As for lack of realism, as I mentioned, it's only really a problem when a fictional universe breaks it's own realism, which CG did time and again. It might be one of the best series ever made if the criteria for best included incoherence and sloppy writing. |
Mawootad said: lol for one side complaining about CG because of lack of realistic plot and another trying to say it's realistic. It's pretty obvious that you shouldn't look too closely at all the ham and cheese in CG, the first episode introduces giant robots that, I may mention, are wearing the equivalent of roller skates. And they can fire off their hands to get away. And the main character can kill people by staring at them and one of the characters is immortal. Did I mention that a second class citizen is given the military's top-secret super-prototype giant robot, despite the fact that he has no combat experience in giant robots, yet still manages to use it perfectly. And said character can run across walls dodging automated turrets and can jump, flat footed, twenty feet in the air while doing a 1080 degree roundhouse kick. And it just gets worse, in terms of realism. But, then again, nobody ever complained about lack of realism in TTGL. Ignore the realism (or lack of it) and just enjoy the show. If you watch it with a metric ton of suspension of disbelief, it's one of (and possibly the) best works ever made.  |
llxwarbirdxll said: Glad to be of service! |
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r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Honestly, that wouldn't change anything, because in this case, you can just say that you hated whatever we recommended you to prove us "wrong".Alot of people gave CG a high rating. Baman and the dumb troll girl dont like it. How about you guys give me a anime better than code geass so it can blow my mind and see what are u guys watching. |
r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Alot of people gave CG a high rating. Baman and the dumb troll girl dont like it. How about you guys give me a anime better than code geass so it can blow my mind and see what are u guys watching. I'm tempted to tell you to watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but somehow I don't think you'd understand. |
BigSimo said: r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Alot of people gave CG a high rating. Baman and the dumb troll girl dont like it. How about you guys give me a anime better than code geass so it can blow my mind and see what are u guys watching. I'm tempted to tell you to watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but somehow I don't think you'd understand. We get it, you don't think CG is good and has plot holes. Leave the poor guy alone already, and stop with the random insults. @r1animewatcher25 They don't CG, it's fine. Just ignore them and stop making yourself look stupid. |
Enigmatica said: BigSimo said: r1AnimeWatcher25 said: Alot of people gave CG a high rating. Baman and the dumb troll girl dont like it. How about you guys give me a anime better than code geass so it can blow my mind and see what are u guys watching. I'm tempted to tell you to watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes, but somehow I don't think you'd understand. We get it, you don't think CG is good and has plot holes. Leave the poor guy alone already, and stop with the random insults. Well in that case, r1, read my post without the last bit. LOGH is an anime better than code geass, watch it when you have some time and feel like a deep and intelligent show. |
| coming late to post, but why not gundam seed? is one of the best or the best of all the gundams series, and the story is good and make sense, unlike many of the gundams series out there. anyways: he is looking for mecha so i will give some one eureka seven (the original one) gundam seed/seed destiny macross, the new one like F break blade code geass star driver Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse Lagrange Gurren Laggan has some meca so it counts? right? |
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llxwarbirdxll said: Ninjawafers said: I guess that's one thing we can all agree on.IMO SEED was way better than Evangelion. Evangelion was better than Gundam SEED. Also, Eureka Seven and Turn A Gundam. I don't know if i can recomend Code Geass, because the mechas are most an adorn to make the story more attractive. |
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| Seed was fine, Seed Destiny was NOT. My recs would be Buddy Complex Gundam 08th MS Team(The most balanced gundam anime) Gundam Seed (melodrama sucks but the music and animation was good, skip the sequel) Gundam Zeta (obviously im bias because i love kamille x four, again skip the sequel) SDF Macross (granted minmay is prob the worst female character in all of anime) Macross F (love triangle but a decent watch) Rahxephon (something different while still being mecha) These recs are from someone who spent like 6 months watching damn near every mecha show out there. |
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