Log Horizon
Immahnoob said: Ignis_Scientia said: almozayaf said: can i ask about SAO was there team work have like these No teamwork . no strategy in battle . Only plot armor for Kirito Switching in SAO, I have no idea where you found the plot armor. You can found after meet Silica |
| SAO was just a bad adaptation of a real mmorpg. I like this one better, LH has every elements which a mmorpg game should have: classes and subclasses, skills, good explanations. And even the elder tale's worlds are built with so much details, we will see in later episodes. |
Ignis_Scientia said: Immahnoob said: Ignis_Scientia said: almozayaf said: can i ask about SAO was there team work have like these No teamwork . no strategy in battle . Only plot armor for Kirito Switching in SAO, I have no idea where you found the plot armor. You can found after meet Silica That's called being higher level. In most MMORPGs level equals less damage from lower levels because of items and passive stats that increase per level. |
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| The anime made Kirito looks like he wears plot armor, but he was actually not in the novel. It was bad presentation, especially at the final battle between heathcliff and kirit. But yeah, kirit certainly has a plot armor which made him survived that long cause hes the main character. On the other hand, just stop comparing LH with SAO, they hardly have any similarities, only the mmorpg elements but different approaches. SAO -> more about solo player(kirit), story revolves around kirit and his harem team. LH -> more about teamworks, story is about every player and I really like their interactions, world's details, explanations, etc. I expect good things to come. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 12, 2013 9:59 AM
| There's no harem there, there's not even plot armor. You guys don't know your terms. |
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Immahnoob said: Ignis_Scientia said: Immahnoob said: Ignis_Scientia said: almozayaf said: can i ask about SAO was there team work have like these No teamwork . no strategy in battle . Only plot armor for Kirito Switching in SAO, I have no idea where you found the plot armor. You can found after meet Silica That's called being higher level. In most MMORPGs level equals less damage from lower levels because of items and passive stats that increase per level. Having Plot armor that is the reason why he has ridiculous Higher Level and unbalance skill Immahnoob said: There's no harem there, there's not even plot armor. You guys don't know your terms. Don't try to defend it . it too obvious . |
| "Plot armor" is when a character by sheer luck, survives something that should really be bad for the character, or simply falls short. There's no "luck" there, he was a beta player so he knew exactly where to go to level up. So yeah, you don't know your terms. Also, a harem is a group of three or more females that surround the character almost all the time, there's no actual need for them to be romantically involved. From what I can see, he never has three or more characters that are female that surround him, they all love him sure, but that's called a love triangle, or a love square, or a love pentagon. Learn your terms, thanks. |
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Immahnoob said: "Plot armor" is when a character by sheer luck, survives something that should really be bad for the character, or simply falls short. There's no "luck" there, he was a beta player so he knew exactly where to go to level up. So yeah, you don't know your terms. Also, a harem is a group of three or more females that surround the character almost all the time, there's no actual need for them to be romantically involved. From what I can see, he never has three or more characters that are female that surround him, they all love him sure, but that's called a love triangle, or a love square, or a love pentagon. Learn your terms, thanks. That was your own meaning, try to learn it from facts and the internet. Plot armor = kirito survived when he was stabbed to death but he still managed to kill heathcliff at the last minute thks to "will power". Ive read the novel as well and it was purely will power. harem: A genre in manga and anime where a single (often ordinary) guy is liked and followed by bunch of girls (3 or more) who are all madly in love with him. What do we have in SAO? suguha, sachi(not sure if the death counts), lizbeth, silica, asuna, shino, etc. Its like every female character was made just to fall in love with kirit. Although I like SAO but I only like the adventure aspect, not the whole harem team. Immahnoob said: there's no actual need for them to be romantically involved. Yes it does, they wouldnt call it harem if the girls hadn't fallen for him. Now learn it right, thanks. Or you should take a look at this side story. Please don't try to teach people your very wrong meanings. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way |
Takana_no_HanaOct 12, 2013 8:43 PM
| ^ Immahnoob Isn't Kirito have too much luck .He get all the girl he meet after save them one times . There are many pro player out there and only him get the Dual blade , He survive the battle with Kayaba after his HP fall to zero . In ALO his old stat is carry to the game , Asuna drop a mini Card on the sky and he catch it , even Kayaba appear and give him admins control at the final battle. About Harem ,that is your own definition |
| Let's play guess the anime: "Let's actually have a game plan on how to defeat the enemy as a team" vs. "I HAVE DUAL SWORDS BECAUSE HAX, SINGLE-HANDEDLY BEAT THE GAME AND EVERYTHING IN SIGHT WITH IT" Real similar. |
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| LH and SAO share practically the same premise but how they go about executing the story is completely different. I think LH episode 2 is a good example, focus was on class abilities, party composition and strategy to win the fight. That first fight reminds me more of something like Yugioh (showing my age) where the fight was won by having some trick strategy in your arsenal and plain outwitting your opponent rather than SAO's style of having Kirito try harder and unlock more power out of nowhere to beat down his opponents. In this episode they also explained some the different class skills and abilities that Shiroe and Naotsugu had, in SAO it was like everyone was pretty much the same class and it just came down to how geared and leveled everyone was so there was no need to explain anything about their abilities. Also there's a bigger focus thus far on the politics of an MMO which is something the anime of SAO completely overlooked (it was covered somewhat in the LN). The whole tidbit about bigger guilds becoming bigger and smaller guilds marginalized is probably what would happen in a scenario like this since there's always a rush to join the biggest/most powerful guild in these type of games. Well it's only 2 episodes in but I think its fair to say that LH has differentiated itself from SAO by actually giving us what we expected to see in an anime about players trapped in an MMO rather than focusing on the different girls that fall for the MC and that makes all the difference. Blog post on differences from SAO and Episode 1 here. Blog post on episode 2 here. |
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| http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArmor "Note that this is specifically about cases where it's suggested (by way of Informed Ability, generally) that something should happen that would be very bad for the hero - but it tends to fall short as soon as he gets involved, for no given reason besides luck." Learn your terms, thanks. His breaking time in-game is exactly the same like all others, it wasn't pure "willpower", he went "melodramatic" when Asuna "died", he simply used up what he had left to stab the dude, "breaking" /=/ no possible movement. I've even timed all the breaking times to see if they fit, and they do. "A genre in manga and anime where a single (often ordinary) guy (wrong) is liked and followed by bunch of girls (3 or more) who are all madly in love with him. (wrong, usually means there are exceptions)" "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(genre) They don't "surround" him or "follow him" in the Anime, even you added "following" as in "being there with him", don't shoot yourself in the foot, it's boring, not entertaining, thanks. Ignis_Scientia said: ^ Immahnoob Isn't Kirito have too much luck .He get all the girl he meet after save them one times . There are many pro player out there and only him get the Dual blade , He survive the battle with Kayaba after his HP fall to zero . In ALO his old stat is carry to the game , Asuna drop a mini Card on the sky and he catch it , even Kayaba appear and give him admins control at the final battle. About Harem ,that is your own definition You don't even have your own argument, don't copy others, it's boring. Psychology 101, people in general are attracted to people with power, charisma, confidence, etc. They explained that only a few get special skills, which are given to people with a certain physical condition. A last hit before he hit the time to get broken, it wasn't out of the game's rules. The ALO servers are a copy of the SAO severs, it's only natural that that happened. I don't even know how that helps you in any way, that card didn't help him in any way. Kayaba being there in the first place is explained later on in the story, with a simple explanation in the Anime, AKA a scan that put him on the Internet and he used it to stop Sugou Nobuyuki. |
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Immahnoob said: "A genre in manga and anime where a single (often ordinary) guy (wrong) is liked and followed by bunch of girls (3 or more) who are all madly in love with him. (wrong, usually means there are exceptions)" "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(genre) Heres the right definition and u forgot those bolded words: Harem, hāremumono (ハーレムもの?), broadly, is an ambiguously-defined subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests or a more general definition: In a broadly literal sense, as it applies to anime and manga, a harem consists of a character of one gender surrounded by multiple characters of the opposite gender. "or love interests" FYI, I've read up to the SAO vol 9(bored after that so I stopped), watched more main stream and shounen than u do. SAO has every elements of a pure shounen stuff I can imagine, where the main guy fights against the world with his bare hand and will power, followed by a harem team. Oh well, it's MAL after all, can't blame urself for being stubborn like that. I'm done with u for now cause words are pointless for certain people to understand. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 7:43 AM
| I don't think you understand the main point, they don't surround him in the anime, I was saying that your definition is flawed because it doesn't have to have "love interests" for it to be a harem. "Oh, I watched more Anime, that means you're wrong." Learn to argument, thanks. "Pure shounen", define this. There's no harem, the definition disagrees with you. I don't know, from what I know, he fights in games. |
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Immahnoob said: I don't think you understand the main point, they don't surround him in the anime, I was saying that your definition is flawed because it doesn't have to have "love interests" for it to be a harem. "Oh, I watched more Anime, that means you're wrong." Learn to argument, thanks. "Pure shounen", define this. There's no harem, the definition disagrees with you. I don't know, from what I know, he fights in games. Please read this one before making more arguements. Thanks. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way You have a perfect scenario where Kirit is surrounded by a bunch of girls who want to be his love interest. Btw this is an official side story which was written by SAO's author. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 7:07 AM
Takana_no_Hana said: Immahnoob said: I don't think you understand the main point, they don't surround him in the anime, I was saying that your definition is flawed because it doesn't have to have "love interests" for it to be a harem. "Oh, I watched more Anime, that means you're wrong." Learn to argument, thanks. "Pure shounen", define this. There's no harem, the definition disagrees with you. I don't know, from what I know, he fights in games. Please read this one before making more arguements. Thanks. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way You have a perfect scenario where Kirit is surrounded by a bunch of girls who want to be his love interest. Btw this is an official side story which was written by SAO's author. Technically speaking he clearly confirmed harem elements in SAO through this side story. Then this should also be dementia because it involved one single character that went crazy, this should also be Magical Girl subgenre because it involves a single arc where some girls used magic. Also Science Fiction, because the full VR and dive system don't exist, maybe some Mystery because they didn't know who the GM was. Where's the Slice of Life genre on SAO? They have scenes where they're at home. Where's the comedy tag? I've seen some jokes here and there. Maybe an Ecchi tag because it implied they had sex? OHHHH, maybe a thriller tag, it involved some suspense in about five seconds of an episode. Let's see, what else could we add, hmmmm... Let me check, Superpowers? After all they all have something "super" about them, like super strength, super speed, etc. P.S. Just because one episode of an anime or one Chapter of an LN involves girls surrounding the main characters that doesn't make it a harem, otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. Genres are added because their elements are seen in several parts of the story, being predominant over the others and moving the plot with those elements. For example in a Monster manga which is also a Harem, the plot is moved by the harem because they are the ones that instigate the action. |
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| You have silica, lizbeth, asuna, sachi who all like him. With every story new girl appears. Kirito is the only male lead in SAO up to vol 10, he has lots of supportive characters who are all female. The male:female ratio in SAO is 1:xx. At least SAO still has a story cause these girls won't follow him to his bed/bathroom -> which makes SAO watchable and different than other generic harem. Dear god I wouldn't want these girls appear in every single scene from start to finish in SAO. And by your definition every harem anime should do the same right? Making all the female appear in every frame, even when the main character is at home, in his bed, sofa, or bathroom, etc. Or else they aren't harem anymore. Technically speaking he clearly confirmed harem elements in SAO through this side story. Just like saying "Hey guys I want harem in SAO so I write a side story about it". If you disagree with harem in SAO = you disagree with the author. By this point, I completely give up on you.It's flawed, your definition about harem is flawed P/s: and yes u can have all that under the categories http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=8692 help me add some. Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. No, log horizon has 2 main male character from the start, and other guys gonna show up later. Thus this is invalid. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 7:21 AM
| "Love Polygon" Your argument is invalid. It doesn't matter how many supportive characters he has, if he isn't surrounded by them almost all the time it isn't a Harem, re-read your definition, the one you posted yourself. Implying I ever said that "Harem" tagged Anime are bad, I simply don't like it when people talk bullshit. I also confirmed this is a Hentai because of the infamous "glopping" chapter and how it implied it actually happened because of the way they drawn her when she was in bed, AKA bra-less (or at least Ecchi, by this point, any genre can be added by your logic, huehuehue). "Implies" aren't the truth though, don't invent situations now. The author said nowhere that SAO is a harem, and that is a fact because the LN is not officially tagged as "Harem". Also: "otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode." Log Horizon is a harem by your logic. |
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Immahnoob said: "Love Polygon" Your argument is invalid. It doesn't matter how many supportive characters he has, if he isn't surrounded by them almost all the time it isn't a Harem, re-read your definition, the one you posted yourself. Implying I ever said that "Harem" tagged Anime are bad, I simply don't like it when people talk bullshit. I also confirmed this is a Hentai because of the infamous "glopping" chapter. "Implies" aren't the truth though, don't invent situations now. The author said nowhere that SAO is a harem, and that is a fact because the LN is not officially tagged as "Harem". Also: "otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode." Log Horizon is a harem by your logic. Love polygon happens when A likes B but B likes C and C likes D. You don't even know the meaning of "love polygon", why use it? -> now learn it, thks. Immahnoob said: Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. This is invalid cause there are 2 main male character from the start. And theres gonna be some guys show up later on. http://myanimelist.net/anime/17265/Log_Horizon -> check the cast. There are flaws in every of your arguments. I think we should stop arguing here cause I see no point of convincing someone like you. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 7:31 AM
| The thread title was begging for a flame war.. At the moment for me the situation for the characters in Log horizon isn't very dire and they don't seem to give much of a shit about it. They can't die, they won't starve, their only threat is a bunch of bored assholes who just want their loot. I'm enjoying it for the time being but I hope it gets a bit more serious in the next couple episodes :P |
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Immahnoob said: P.S. Just because one episode of an anime or one Chapter of an LN involves girls surrounding the main characters that doesn't make it a harem, otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. Genres are added because their elements are seen in several parts of the story, being predominant over the others and moving the plot with those elements. For example in a Monster manga which is also a Harem, the plot is moved by the harem because they are the ones that instigate the action. oh please , in Log Horizon , they are friend and the purpose of their meeting is to exchange information while those girl in SAO fall in love with Kirito |
| "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." "Several protagonists" "Several protagonists" "Several protagonists" Then don't post links that say otherwise. You're shooting yourself in the foot harder if this isn't a love polygon. And they don't have to be amorously involved either for a love polygon, simply interconnected even as family. So then you're going to forfeit? That's funny, and I thought you actually thought you were right. Damn, when will MAL ever be fun again? Ignis_Scientia said: Immahnoob said: P.S. Just because one episode of an anime or one Chapter of an LN involves girls surrounding the main characters that doesn't make it a harem, otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. Genres are added because their elements are seen in several parts of the story, being predominant over the others and moving the plot with those elements. For example in a Monster manga which is also a Harem, the plot is moved by the harem because they are the ones that instigate the action. oh please , in Log Horizon , they are friend and the purpose of their meeting is to exchange information while those girl in SAO fall in love with Kirito How is that even relevant to what I said? Don't they have the right to love him? Is it that incredible? Fhantom_chaos said: Sure, and with that logic wwith you every Manga, anime, Light novel and visual novel is Harem too this world just going around and around and around "Harem" =)) sure this topic is so much of fun =)) This guy doesn't even know what's going on here. Oh Me, you guys are a gold mine. |
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Immahnoob said: "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." "Several protagonists" "Several protagonists" "Several protagonists" Then don't post links that say otherwise. You're shooting yourself in the foot harder if this isn't a love polygon. And they don't have to be amorously involved either for a love polygon, simply interconnected even as family. So then you're going to forfeit? That's funny, and I thought you actually thought you were right. Damn, when will MAL ever be fun again? Ignis_Scientia said: Immahnoob said: P.S. Just because one episode of an anime or one Chapter of an LN involves girls surrounding the main characters that doesn't make it a harem, otherwise Log Horizon is also a harem, three girls that surround the two main characters in 30 seconds of one episode. Genres are added because their elements are seen in several parts of the story, being predominant over the others and moving the plot with those elements. For example in a Monster manga which is also a Harem, the plot is moved by the harem because they are the ones that instigate the action. oh please , in Log Horizon , they are friend and the purpose of their meeting is to exchange information while those girl in SAO fall in love with Kirito How is that even relevant to what I said? Don't they have the right to love him? Is it that incredible? Fhantom_chaos said: Sure, and with that logic wwith you every Manga, anime, Light novel and visual novel is Harem too this world just going around and around and around "Harem" =)) sure this topic is so much of fun =)) This guy doesn't even know what's going on here. Oh Me, you guys are a gold mine. A genre in manga and anime where a single (often ordinary) guy is liked and followed by bunch of girls (3 or more) who are all madly in love with him. Here's my definition. Not sure what u're talking about. Anyway, i'm done with SAO fanboy. A certain people on MAL go crazy when it comes to SAO, u just made me lost my faith in humanity. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way You can't disagree with the author. The side story is better than him saying like "SAO has harem elements" cause the SS proved it already. This is more than enough to prove your bullshit argument wrong. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 7:55 AM
| "guy is liked and followed" "followed" Yes, you are done, contradict yourself more. Can you try a little harder? I'm really getting bored. And yeah, your definition isn't the official one, there can be several protagonists and the Harem genre can have more than one male. Also, you know what's the problem here...? The true one, that is? MAL checks the LN/Manga/Anime official genres before adding them. So yeah, the author disagrees with you, but hey, hey... Let me give you some help, little one. The "Word of God" isn't always the truth either, a work must have material that is canon to be a certain thing, for example he might say this isn't drama because he thinks death is funny and happy, that doesn't mean it won't be defined as drama, it's not only the author that defines the genres. So yeah, genres are facts. One of the few in entertainment. |
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| I will post it again. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way You can't disagree with the author. The side story is better than him saying like "SAO has harem elements" cause the SS proved it already. This is more than enough to prove your bullshit argument wrong. P/s: by "followed", doesn't mean they have to follow him everywhere and in every frame. I'm not even contradicting myself, don't twist my words. Sure you aren't a little 12yrs old kid? I'm bored. Have fun |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 8:01 AM
Takana_no_Hana said: I will post it again. http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Sword_Art_Online:There_is_but_one_ultimate_way You can't disagree with the author. The side story is better than him saying like "SAO has harem elements" cause the SS proved it already. This is more than enough to prove your bullshit argument wrong. P/s: by "followed", doesn't mean they have to follow him everywhere and in every frame. Sure you aren't a little 12yrs old kid? Have fun. Immahnoob said: MAL checks the LN/Manga/Anime official genres before adding them. So yeah, the author disagrees with you, but hey, hey... Let me give you some help, little one. The "Word of God" isn't always the truth either, a work must have material that is canon to be a certain thing, for example he might say this isn't drama because he thinks death is funny and happy, that doesn't mean it won't be defined as drama, it's not only the author that defines the genres. So yeah, genres are facts. One of the few in entertainment. Not all of the frames no... But most of them, yes. I'm sorry, but SAO officially is not tagged as harem, the harem genre is: "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." I can disagree with the author anytime I want, the "Word of God" can be argued against. Haha, only if there was a "Word of God" anywhere there, you're saying it's "implied" that the author agrees with it being a "harem", but once again, you don't have any concrete evidence it's actually implied anywhere, a single chapter out of about 60-70? Implying also has nothing to do with the truth. Try harder, harder please. I gave you so many chances, why aren't you using them to get out of that hole you dug yourself? |
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| You make me laugh so hard, most of your arguments only contain your opinion. Opinion doesn't equal facts and like, Not all of the frames no... But most of them, yes. How did you even come up with this conclusion rofl ....... At least I provided a chapter with solid evidence that the author really wanted to do a harem side story at some point. How about you? Some twisted definition, I don't even call them arguments, they were all opinions. The truth is, you didn't provide anything which can be considered as evidence at all. They were all baseless assumption and interpretation. But yeah, for a certain of people, opinion = facts. I think you should troll harder. I'm not even trying, u just entertained me a lot tonight. I thought u were actually a good commentator when I see 6k posts but after this so called "debate"(actually its a flame war) I started to understand where your posts comin' from. Oh well, when people read this they will understand(except for SAO fanboys ofc). I've fun tonight, got things to do. |
Takana_no_HanaOct 13, 2013 8:27 AM
| Opinions? What. "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." This is the definition of Harem as a subgenre of anime. "Genres are added because their elements are seen in several parts of the story, being predominant over the others and moving the plot with those elements." Also: "MAL checks the LN/Manga/Anime official genres before adding them." You didn't provide anything, the author implied nil there and even if he did "imply" something, if he did not actually say it, it's just you imagining things. One chapter or one episode or one scene do not define a genre. I'm sorry, but you're committing the subjectivist fallacy right now. Is this all you've got? What was the whole point of this? You barely managed to entertain me with your oh-so confident "arguments" that defy facts. |
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| Yeah, Amoex, indeed. Guess what, most harems start with a single heroine, Sekirei is an example. |
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| Genres don't change from anime to manga. Sekirei had both a manga and an anime. And most stories are actually thought out before being written. But that's irrelevant and relative. I'd rather have you not shift the burden of proof and give us proof of this: "They don't have a tendency of changing one's genre after its publication." This does heavily imply that it's possible for them to change genres. And I think it happened with Evangelion and Madoka. curianhg said: Oh well, in SAO anime there is a total of 5 girls love and interested in 1 guy - Kirito, if this series doesn't have harem tag, it's just that they forgot to add dat tag =)) "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." So yeah, you're wrong. That would be a Love Pentagon. |
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| this topic now is too much academic "I am not smart enough to understand what's going on here." noob, go back to your sex art online don't stay here anymore if you don't enjoy this show "Go away, I don't like your opinion, but you still must choose one of the two sides, because I say so, that's all." stop this ridiculous theard "The Theard is upon us." Oh, and by the way, Log Horizon is a 9/10 for me, I don't know what you're saying, I love this show. |
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| Must I repeat myself so many times? "subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist (or several protagonists) surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests." They don't have to be in love with him for it to be a harem, the criteria is for the main character or characters to be surrounded (AKA, they must live with these members of the opposite sex, the plot must actually be moved by the group, and it must actually be a GROUP) by the members of the opposite sex. There's no HAREM that does not fit this definition. The thing is, and let's be honest, he already chose one before there was any other "romantic" possibility, but that doesn't mean there can't be a change of heart, thus, this could have been a harem if the most important criteria would have been met. Now guys, I truly can't believe that you can't read the other pages, you really have to try a little harder if you want to actually do anything properly. And a Love Pentagon isn't a genre, sure, does that mean anything? No, it doesn't, it's just that you can't define it as anything else, as it does not fit any other definition. |
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| How did you get to the conclusion that I'm comparing them? I've actually said that they're not comparable because of different approaches. One relied more on Drama and Romance, this relies more on Action and Comedy. Why are you guys so bitter? It makes me feel like I'm at fault. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| I just corrected some of the bullshit I've seen on this thread, no need to get rustled. First and foremost, they're different types of MMORPGs, one can have solo play while the other can't. And yes, there are MMORPGs that can be played solo. |
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