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Dragon_Slayer_X said: Is it me or the only people happy with this ending are the shippers who are still busy shipping and figuring out whose kid is the prince disregarding the fact that he is someone descendant? Thank you. I woke up and saw these new posts and just....really? Are they still talking about Saki and Shouko. Let's count the full screen of these two in this episode? Get over it already. Who didn't guess MC was going to die? jugann said: My thoughts on most people spamming that. Valvrave was a fun watch, don't think they'll be doing a S3 though. Magius are dead and it would be a bigger trainwreck as shouko being a pilot would be BAD. I LOL'd when she was wearing no.1's suit If it was satisfying for you, fine. But accept the fact that it wasn't for a lot of people. And I am not just talking about on this forum. Let's be honest here. With all the questions and events put forth, how many people really said 100%, there will not be a third season. At this point, I can't even see an OVA. Mentioning sales and ratings make sense but anyone who knows anything can tell they cannot be 100% relied on. In comparison and case by case, results differ. But I did enjoy this series while it lasted. Again, satisfied but unsatisfied. Climatic, yet anti climatic. Other than pair crazy fans and the leftover anger about Thunder dying, nothing jumped out much. You got the two to three minute conclusion, Haruto's death, and the fight with Cain. Other stuff happened by no one really cares. If you compare it to last seasons finale, the hype is not lived up. Saying that there are omissions is not spamming either. I wrote a full paragraphs on my thoughts. Have to agree with this..................Shoko doesn't deserve to be a pilot and it would terrible even if they try to make her character serious. I didn't like that either. Not because I think she'd be terrible....though I can just imagne if they continued the series with her on Valvrave 1. But we really didn't get to see anything or truly experience new character development. Once again refer to two to three minute conclusion. You basically, most of your feelings from the last 23 episodes are cemented. |
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| Bad ending, Shoko didn't die. |
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Riez said: destonyDbaby said: also people. if it is such a shitty show, why force yourself to watch 24 episodes. that makes no sense, unless if you are a M lol indeed I enjoyed the series, but I think the ending felt way to rushed and I'm still confused on what's going on. :P |
| Good. Haruto and Shoko were shit characters. |
| There is a whole thread called Shoko. People who are just arguing about Saki and Shouko, go find it. This episode discussion has been dominated by the pairings who got less than 5 minute screen time combined in this ep. Saki was made to seem significant for the future but wasn't and Shouko took over Harutos role in the empire, which most people don't like. These are facts. Don't argue about them. I am not for either anymore because that story device came to naught. Rather, L-ElfxHaruto for the win! ...in friendship terms. That was the only real pairs conclusion. Facts over. |
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RSGodCraftRiot said: Chiyousagi said: RSGodCraftRiot said: ZeroAkito said: Well I guess everything has already been said. A more or less complete train wreck - at least the ending was one with the amount of unanswered questions. However I'm less disappointed than I should be. This isn't the first open ending / train wreck-ending I've seen. Of course a third ending / 1-3 OVA(s) would be nice but I think that if we get anything at all it'll be the OVA(s). Guess what we are essentially left with is the quite familiar message "You want to fill the holes ? Darn. Seems like you'll have to buy/read the novels/manga volumes." -.- I joined MAL just to say this. Still a better ending than Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio. How is the ending bad? I admit it is a bit cliche for the america fleet portion, but other then that, there isn't anything to complain about. Simply because it destroys the chance of an S2 It destroys the chance of having S2 earlier since they didn't follow the manga. |
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RSGodCraftRiot said: Drawnfreak said: There is a whole thread called Shoko. People who are just arguing about Saki and Shouko, go find it. This episode discussion has been dominated by the pairings who got less than 5 minute screen time combined in this ep. Saki was made to seem significant for the future but wasn't and Shouko took over Harutos role in the empire, which most people don't like. These are facts. Don't argue about them. I am not for either anymore because that story device came to naught. Rather, L-ElfxHaruto for the win! ...in friendship terms. That was the only real pairs conclusion. Facts over. I second that. Valvrave is the first to make me cry without romance. True , that scene was emotional. Time for a re-watch then. |
"Children of Japan. And those who were once children. Listen! This is not a dream. This is not fiction. In reality, your superheroes were always fighting. To teach viewers courage and the meaning of justice! No matter how many enemies there are. No matter how strong evil is. Just remember. Does any another country have so many heroes? Has any another country been protected by multiple superheroes? Stand with me, friends! Remember when you used to watch your superheroes! Once you may have given up this dream. But today, you can be a hero!" - Kaname Jouji , Red Axe |
| i think the endind was so rushed -.- they could have made so much better, it was such a great story, and it could lead to so many things ! to many things left unexplained, and the prologue could have showed more. if it wasn't for that rushed ending it would have been a 9/10. |
| "Before creation there must be destruction. If my soul stands in the way, then I'll toss it aside. Yes, I have no choice but to move forward." - Lelouch Vi Britannia |
Tiggax said: i think the endind was so rushed -.- they could have made so much better, it was such a great story, and it could lead to so many things ! to many things left unexplained, and the prologue could have showed more. if it wasn't for that rushed ending it would have been a 9/10. I agree with the rating. If it had not been rushed and lived up to my expectations: 8/10. Only because they botched the ending amd left loose ends that it is 6.5 out of 10 for me. I voted okay. The Seasons Finale this season seem to be stuck in that zone. |
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| comments about 2nd season- -ending was rushed -somebody shoot the ARUS pres in the head please he cant be switching sides like that -cain fight could have been better -the stupidity of people man...(dorrsian leader gets stabbed in the throat...o it was fake) -that girl who says haruto killed her dad... stfu your dad helped create valvraves to make monsters :/ inuzuka died could care less bout thunder |
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| I'm wondering if some day the internet will learn that a plot hole and loose end are not in fact the same thing. A plot hole tends to happen when there's a leap in logic that defies the conventions and plausibility of narrative. An example might be how the Magius appear to have been disposed of at the end despite it being shown that they aren't so easily killed since they heal up even fatal wounds. Without any explanation as to the disposal method this ends up being something of a plot hole in the resolution of the story. I mean they could have just said it had something to do with Rune depletion but they never did, all we saw was a pile of bodies and people standing over them with weapons which implies a shootout. Loose ends are things like the identity of the Prince, the back stories of Cain, Plue and Pino and there whole relationship and reasons for their outlook on humans as well as the identity of the Golden Seven. This finale left a lot more of those types of things than I would have liked. |
| So Kakumeiki Valvrave is going to end like this ? - It can't be my heart hurts. Honestly I was sure to be prepared for everything even the worst case scenario but still that caught me off guard. Who told us that Kamitsukis would be immortal in the end everyone got shot down, and even Haruto who used up all his runes died, I still hope that it's not the case but the statue seems to show it. Though nice fight Haruto & L-Elf vs Kain, was an amazing fight, also the animation was very good. Saki wanted that Haruto lose his memories, that the conditions for her and Shouko would be the same but this? - Who would have expect that this is going to happen. Even if I think this ending is good for this Anime, I also hope for something that is going to explain the open questions, who is included in the golden seven, expect of, Satomi,Akira,Shouko and Saki. And what is with the promise Saki was talking about in the future, there is no way that she wouldn't be sad about his death, also does it seem like she won't get any older? All in all I really enjoyed this Anime, if i want to become sad I might rewatch it, and also hope for a new Season or something like that, I would never believe that Haruto is dead. This episode 5/5 This Anime I think I give it 8/10 |
| I figured Haruto was going to die, but I wanted all the ones that wronged the Valvraves to suffer a lot more than they did...especially Shoko! Unfortunately, it seems that it took the death of many for her to realize what being a Prime Minister and a diplomat are really about. Secretly, I was hoping that those ALFs would have shot her. And whose little boy is that?! Sent with Mal Updater |
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| better than season 1 but thats not saying much, d have enjoyed the ending more if Saki had been brutally killed, i loled when the aliens showed up at the end 5/10 |
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| The "It was humans who attacked us first!" twist rekindled my delightful memories of Mars of Destruction. I wish I could say "shut up and enjoy the scenery", but it turned out a lot more serious than I would've liked and there's a number of loose ends regarding the timeskip. I don't have much expectations for Buddy Complex, but here's to hoping it's not just a "lowly Valvrave knockoff". 5/10 |
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| Yahh he won but lost all his memories |
| I see peoples favorite phrase these days is "trainwreck". Well, for me the show was enjoyable as I am a sucker for drama heavy mech shows. Predictably Haruto dies, however I wanted Shoko to suffer far more than she did because of his death. Oh well. Also, the end with her as unit 1's pilot extending the hand of friendship to hostile aliens had me facepalming. Especially since she spent the previous 2 episodes totally demonizing the valvrave pilots as monsters. I suppose it's her penance for betraying Haruto, since now she gets to live an eternity of regret. All in all though, very enjoyable series. |
niaxatoDec 27, 2013 1:05 PM
| ^I think she did it to prevent another war with aliens. I wish in second season authors again explained like in first season why Shouko crying and act like nothing happen... because seems lot of people forget reason behind it. |
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| This ending sucked shit. I would rather them have pulled some BS to keep haruto alive than the way they killed him off and they decided to make shouko immortal with harutos valvrave with all the shit she pulled against haruto for it to begin with? holy shit it can't get much worse than that. |
| It would be awesome serie, if ending would end like this: Haruto lost all of his memories, but lives and now as Saki said she and Shouko can rivalize for Haruto's love from fair point. It would make an interesting 3rd season, plus bromance chemistry ofc with L-ef. With that next season all plot holes would be explained and all of us would be satisfied. Okay, I'll stop dreaming, but seriously that type of ending would be a lot greater than just Haruto's death, making L-elf's priest, hints for Saki and A-drei, making Shouko a pilot etc. Yeah I'm not pleased with that ending. Maybe because I'm too sad with Haruto's death. I'm also surprised while checking comments that no one was really happy with his death, while before there were many people who hated him. Poor guy to be appreciated when he died... Important question!: http://youtu.be/4q7D6p3jqTg?t=6s Can someone tell me when this moment happened? ( Saki meeting that blond bad guy ) |
| I'll just forgive sunrise if there is a season 3 |
| english isn't my native language... ;) |
| Well I am also little bit dissapointed in this ending... so many things are crowded in mistery and unexplained. I had a feeling Haruto might die but cmon not in this kinda way >.< I would rly be happy to await OVA in future but I hardly doubt there will be any... Over all this ending is gonna hurt for a while (-.-) |
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Haruto lost all of his memories, but lives and now as Saki said she and Shouko can rivalize for Haruto's love from fair point. I think Haruto again could falling in love with Shouko... after all Haruto doesn't show any romantic interest in Saki. Anyway... let's change... Haruto is in love with Saki, not Shouko then lose memories... and falling in love with Shouko, because he don't remember he was in love with Saki. Do you think this would be good? He falling in love with somebody else, because he lose memories about his first love? Just like Haruto don't become friend with L-elf, because he lose memories about him. After all, they become friends again, because there were friends before Haruto lose memories... Sorry... for my english. Hope some of you will get what I wanted to write xD |
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LittleStar said: Haruto lost all of his memories, but lives and now as Saki said she and Shouko can rivalize for Haruto's love from fair point. I think Haruto again could falling in love with Shouko... after all Haruto doesn't show any romantic interest in Saki. Anyway... let's change... Haruto is in love with Saki, not Shouko then lose memories... and falling in love with Shouko, because he don't remember he was in love with Saki. Do you think this would be good? He falling in love with somebody else, because he lose memories about his first love? Just like Haruto don't become friend with L-elf, because he lose memories about him. After all, they become friends again, because there were friends before Haruto lose memories... Sorry... for my english. Hope some of you will get what I wanted to write xD Ah I think you misunderstood me a bit. I meant that their rivalry could be interesting and enough for next season. Of course I don't deny that Haruto still could fall again into Shouko, but it would be just interesting to see them competing. Also Shouko could be more open with her affection, Haruto won't be restricted with his worries about being a monster and Saki would have higher chances, because she doesn't have to compete with childhood friend. All of it could create an interesting plot and yes this time it could be not rushed as previous seasons... As for L-elf they could show as he struggle to renew their friendship, or rather create. I can't call exactly what they had a 'friendship', rather 'partnership'. This time they could get to know each other with more calm atmosphere, if you get what I mean. I'd like to see more emotional L-elf. I really liked him at Haruto's death, I think this was the moment, when I got to him so emotional. Even during death of Liselotte he didn't looks so open and broken. Thanks for reply Dragon_Slayer_X I wonder what else did they skip... They ruined so many interesting plot twists ;/ like they could more cleverly make Saki run from imprisonment. |
| I always pissed with animes where there is new girl and guy totally forget about his childhood friend and become very close with new girl, so I happy Haruto doesn't end up like some other anime characters. Eh, why there is romance in mecha anime... I really like there is no love triangle in KV... and Haruto and Shouko feelings are was known from the beginning :) So I kinda glad it ended like this instead like some people wanted... xD |
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| so much bullshit came from this anime.....oh my god. Thank god i didn't have high hopes for this show.... |
Voidedicon said: You mean the trainwreak that is left on full throttle of an anime fill with inconsistent plotholes that could only be watchable because of the mech fights and emotional scenes right? Yes. Enjoy while it lasts. |
"Children of Japan. And those who were once children. Listen! This is not a dream. This is not fiction. In reality, your superheroes were always fighting. To teach viewers courage and the meaning of justice! No matter how many enemies there are. No matter how strong evil is. Just remember. Does any another country have so many heroes? Has any another country been protected by multiple superheroes? Stand with me, friends! Remember when you used to watch your superheroes! Once you may have given up this dream. But today, you can be a hero!" - Kaname Jouji , Red Axe |
| Such a great series, I enjoyed it to the very ending. Would love to see a season 3, if it's even possible. 8/10 Edit: lmao at all the people calling it horrible, why even bother wasting your time watching it if you consider it bad? smh |
| They needed to change the final phrase into "Do you believe that human beings wrote this show and not dogs?". 5/10, so bad yet .. so bad. The first season was remotely funny because it was a mix of trash. But with this second season they tried to fake the trash into something serious, and it lost its magic. bastek66 said: I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING SHOKO WON DA VALVRAVE ^ |
AkanezoraDec 27, 2013 6:03 PM
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| There's still a lot of things they didn't explained clearly, first about that boy, why does he have a silver hair? If that's Rukino Saki and Haruto's child, he should have a black hair, because she was fucked in season 1. It's clear that the time rukino and nanami talking with that kid was few years ahead after haruto died, but they should elaborated it more. Is it rushed? maybe... Well that ending was disappointing. Okay goodbye Haruto and Shoko, and Saki too. This'll be on my re-watch list next month. |
| Wow they cleaned that up quickly with the Media. Unit 2 is op. Uh-oh Haruto is getting closer... Last time he jacked L-Elf didn't he have L-Elf's voice? I liked that quick draw finish. "The thing about the truth is, you'll never know what it is unless you come out and ask." Great quote. Well that ended in an unexpected way, I was expecting a 3rd season before I watched this episode :P I kind of wish we knew more though such as the prince's parents :/ I thought the alien bit at the end was hilarious though :] |
| I don't think there would be a season 3 or I will be very surprised if there is one. Was a decent series, rushed at times and with some plot-holes...6/10 for me. I really liked the ending, though would have liked it more if Haruto talked to Shoko before dying but the scene with L-elf was good too. |
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| 666/10 troll ending. At least A-drei caught the flowers. Now L-Elf can marry him and Haruto's father will fashion a descendant with his science (with Haruto's DNA, sneaked against A-drei's wishes) from who the Prince of 200 years in the future will descent from. Pay attention L-Elf is wearing an uniform and a ceremonial sash (proper of head of states/royalty) during the wedding:  Example. |
ThessDec 27, 2013 9:07 PM
| I thought it couldn't get worse than Season 1. Goodness was I wrong. |
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