Fullmetal Alchemist
| First series is still the best, at least until now. My 5 cents on that: -I'm reading the manga right now, the artwork is indeed similar to the manga, no lie in that, even so I prefer (a lot more) the artwork of the first series to the manga one (despite the fact it's the original one). You can see how changed some characters are just by looking to Scar, who is now on his original manga design. On a side note, the plot has a lot of differences in comparison with the manga, I thought one of the purposes of this supposed remake was to follow the manga. -About the OST, there are some tracks I liked until now, but I feel like the one from the 1st series fitted a lot better. But that's a matter of musical taste anyway. In the other hand, the opening is pretty cool and is at the same level of the old openings. -The voice acting: it annoyed the heck out of me the fact that they changed the voice actors of some major characters like Winry, Riza and Roy. I mean, I can tag along with Riza's actual voice actress but Winry's and specially Roy? No way. I really hope they don't change Izumi's cranky voice >_> On a most positive view, I can only say that Romi Paku has been kicking butt, her voice acting seems better, just listen at little Ed scream during the episode 2 flashback XD -One of the things people complain about this new series: the fact they put a lot more humour and "child like" drawings and expressions... well, for the people who watched the 1st series and isn't following the manga this may seem a little annoying, but the truth is, the manga is like that. It isn't as serious as the 1st season. -The other issue people have with this is the fact that it seems rushed. It's true, I felt the same when I watched episode 2 and specially episode 3. But we can see this on another light: in my opinion, this new series is aimed at those who either have seen the 1st season or are reading the manga, so they are rushing the scenes that everyone knows, hopefully to be able to turn this supposed remake into a semi-sequel. Maybe I'm being too optimistic about that but I still have faith in Bones. Personal rant: I hope they stop dividing the damn screen in two like they did in most of the episode 3, it's annoying. Anyway, don't start saying this series is a ripoff of some sort without seeing it until the end. It's impossible to judge something in only 3 episodes. PS: Sorry for the wall o'text. ^_^; |
Capellabun said: ^ I agree, very nice comparison though I do enjoy this series more :) Also, while this series isn't following the manga exactly, it's still following it pretty closely though not in the exact order. Episode 3 seemed to following the first two chapters pretty well except for some of the scenes with Rose. |
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Capellabun said: ^ I agree, very nice comparison though I do enjoy this series more :) Also, while this series isn't following the manga exactly, it's still following it pretty closely though not in the exact order. Episode 3 seemed to following the first two chapters pretty well except for some of the scenes with Rose. Thanks. It's true that the episode three manage to follow the manga in a faithful way (and that's also the reason why it seemed rushed), but did episode 1 appear in the manga? (I can't really tell anything about that since I'm halfway through the 5th volume). |
Fukiri said: Thanks. It's true that the episode three manage to follow the manga in a faithful way (and that's also the reason why it seemed rushed), but did episode 1 appear in the manga? (I can't really tell anything about that since I'm halfway through the 5th volume). Isaac is mentioned in the "THAT War flashback" as leader of one of military assault squads. Latter on Mustang mentions him as being the one who taught one of his subordinates "everything". Ed mentions "That fight with that ice alchemist" once. Oh and HulkCronelio came from one omake from manga. |
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Deadpool135 said: "The music seems to be on par with the orignal FMA anime. The rest is too early to judge though. If you gauge it just from the first 3 episodes: Almost every aspect, other than music, is a bit of a downgrade. But, Brotherhood is still better than most anime out there." TadloS said: "Well, it's to early to compare but so far it's disappointing. Why? Mainly because it' rushed and artwork is pretty much badly colored, especially background it's weak. At the moment First series > remake" I agree with these comments. So far I enjoy the version that deviates from the original manga storyline than Brotherhood. I might change my opinion when the action gets good, but that remains to be seen until then. Frenz said: "I believe they are rushing it to catch it up to where the original anime finished, since the original deviated from the manga they needed to make a remake to make sure everything was right. With that in mind, i am enjoying brotherhood, wait until it gets to the rest of the storyline before you complain." I disagree with this. I don't think the remake was their intention of making things right, but to milk off the popularity of the series. As for complaining early on, I think it's a good way of letting people know you think they're doing it wrong until they eventually get it right...hopefully... |
AtomicNerdApr 23, 2009 9:09 AM
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Kabyk said: Oh, and they also overplayed the "people think Al is Fullmetal" more times in these first 3 eps than the ENTIRE first series. They killed it in the first 10 minutes of the first episode, and its still being consistently played out every 2 minutes of the second and third eps. I've had more than enough of that joke to last 8 lifetimes. I so agree on this, sure, it was fun in the beginning but the joke is to old to even be fun anymore |
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| Thanks for the info Capellabun and Fai ^_^ Serenti said: Kabyk said: Oh, and they also overplayed the "people think Al is Fullmetal" more times in these first 3 eps than the ENTIRE first series. They killed it in the first 10 minutes of the first episode, and its still being consistently played out every 2 minutes of the second and third eps. I've had more than enough of that joke to last 8 lifetimes. I so agree on this, sure, it was fun in the beginning but the joke is to old to even be fun anymore True, but that's a recurring joke in the manga, pretty much like the "midget" jokes. So old or not expect to see more in the near future XD |
Fukiri said: Thanks for the info Capellabun and Fai ^_^ Serenti said: Kabyk said: Oh, and they also overplayed the "people think Al is Fullmetal" more times in these first 3 eps than the ENTIRE first series. They killed it in the first 10 minutes of the first episode, and its still being consistently played out every 2 minutes of the second and third eps. I've had more than enough of that joke to last 8 lifetimes. I so agree on this, sure, it was fun in the beginning but the joke is to old to even be fun anymore True, but that's a recurring joke in the manga, pretty much like the "midget" jokes. So old or not expect to see more in the near future XD No, midget is a recurring joke. Al being mistaken for Fullmetal Alchemist happened only like twice. Once in the first episode, and once in the movie. |
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HarryTram said: Fukiri said: True, but that's a recurring joke in the manga, pretty much like the "midget" jokes. So old or not expect to see more in the near future XD No, midget is a recurring joke. Al being mistaken for Fullmetal Alchemist happened only like twice. Once in the first episode, and once in the movie. No one was talking about the previous emo animu or LOLNAZI movie. ;) |
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| Just re-watched the first few episodes of the original FMA anime again, and it was as clear as day that Brotherhood is a big step down. But, it can always turn itself around in a matter of episodes, of course. Lots more material to cover. |
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Fai said: HarryTram said: Fukiri said: True, but that's a recurring joke in the manga, pretty much like the "midget" jokes. So old or not expect to see more in the near future XD No, midget is a recurring joke. Al being mistaken for Fullmetal Alchemist happened only like twice. Once in the first episode, and once in the movie. No one was talking about the previous emo animu or LOLNAZI movie. ;) Neither was , I'm talking about the manga than. Only time it happened was in the first than. If we gonna ferget about the LOLNAZI movie. HAIL FUHRER! |
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| I've to admit that I prefer the first version. Though I've only seen 2 Episodes, but it find the scene where Ed and Al lost their mother (etc) in the first version sad. The second version just rushed it over imo. What I also miss is the great "opening" part from Michiru Oshima ("Touka Koukan" sth like that on the OST). Really loved that part. But, yeah, I've watched 2 episodes, so I that is my first expression. I'll keep on watching and it might get better than the first version. :) |
| Brotherhood is much better because: - The new series really follows the manga story; - Sound and music are still great; - HD animation; - Characters design is closer to the manga. |
| Art = Better than first - Cleaner animation - Better effects - Smoother framerate - Better Lighting - Widescreen Sound -Same stuff as the animation, everything is better because of newer technology |
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| Although I can't judge from what I've watched, I believe Brotherhood has potential to be better series overall. Yeah, it's a little rushed, but the original just DRAGGED and was saturated with emo moments. |
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| So far I really like it alot, I loved the first season as well. I do miss Roys old Voice though, buuut i am getting used to the new guy |
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Volkie said: Brotherhood is much better because: - The new series really follows the manga story; - Sound and music are still great; - HD animation; - Characters design is closer to the manga. The story of the new season so far matches that of the first season, so your first argument is quite invalid at present(sure it says what you expect). The OST of the first season was better ( so far). Only the OP and ED of the new season is very good, but what about the music during the episodes? so far not so good. I would love to see the first season in HD. Surely it's not season1's fault, is it? Haven't read the manga but I loved the character development in FMA1 except for Al being really a crybaby, which is supposed to change( a good thing). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I also want this series to be better than the 1st season. It's supposedly got a better plot, will have less fillers and will make Al better. But on the downside, it may not be as dark. This series should not be comic, but should tend more towards the grim atmosphere. Keeping the balance in the mood will be the key. Let's hope for the best. :) |
Sapta said: The story of the new season so far matches that of the first season, so your first argument is quite invalid at present(sure it says what you expect). No its not. Shitload of differences already. The differences which make this version a lot better. Sapta said: The OST of the first season was better ( so far). Only the OP and ED of the new season is very good, but what about the music during the episodes? so far not so good. Loving FMA2 OST so far. Maybe its just because I am fan of Akira Senju, but the OST totally fits the mood and is outrageously great. The scene where Ed is by the burned down house, the whole priest confrontation in Ep3 had great OST,the scene where Ed tells rose to "stand up and walk forward" has a beautiful OST, not to mention entire Ep5 and Ep4. Sapta said: I would love to see the first season in HD. Surely it's not season1's fault, is it? Adding many stupid design choices(rabbit tucker? parrot boyfriend?) and changing character designs into more generic form is what Season1's fault is. Sapta said: Haven't read the manga but I loved the character development in FMA1 except for Al being really a crybaby, which is supposed to change( a good thing). Hated the designs in FMA1 for the same reason i hated the designs in first Hellsing series or the horrendous abomination that was TC. Sapta said: I also want this series to be better than the 1st season. For me - it is already. Of course for FMA1-watchers-only, it will take some time. After the Fifth Lab is the start where manga truly begins to shine, thus I can only hope for the same in fma2. Sapta said: will make Al better. You can count on it. You could almost say that Al and FMA1!Al are two different people altogether, if you compare on how Al acted during FMA1 and Shamballa and how Al was handled during 5th Lab, Greed Arc or Sapta said: But on the downside, it may not be as dark. This series should not be comic, but should tend more towards the grim atmosphere. Keeping the balance in the mood will be the key. Let's hope for the best. :) The First series tended to go way off into the dark side, forgetting the balance. Manga manages to keep the optimism while still having the dark stuff and balancing it out. While first few chapters are more comical, Arakawa manages to make plot incredibly sad or incredibly hopeful at the turn of the page, if she wants, so there's a lot for us in store if FMA2 is to follow the atmosphere of manga. |
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| What happened to chapter 3 (The Coal Mine Town) and chapter 4 (Battle on the Train)? It seems everything else has pretty much followed the manga but are they just skipping those chapters or might there be flashback episodes later? |
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Capellabun said: quicksilver111 said: What happened to chapter 3 (The Coal Mine Town) and chapter 4 (Battle on the Train)? It seems everything else has pretty much followed the manga but are they just skipping those chapters or might there be flashback episodes later? Chapter 3 was mentioned in Episode 4 and Chapter 4 was skipped probably because it wasn't really needed. It served as an introduction for many of the characters in the manga but because they've been introduced in the first episode of this series they probably decided to just skip it. What happens when they bring Yoki back to ram certain little boys with cars? |
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HarryTram said: What happens when they bring Yoki back to ram certain little boys with cars? My guess is that Coal Town w ill be covered in flashbacks when Mei is introduced in there ;] |
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| So far the anime has been getting better. But I was EXTREMELY disapointed on episode 7. |
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| I wouldn't have so much of a problem if it didn't look like all the characters heads were based off of some sort of soft squishy ball. |
| So far I'm still not liking FMA Brotherhood more than the non canon version. My problem with the series is that I feel a sort of apathy towards the characters. If Scar should show up randomly and off Ed in the middle of the streets in Central, I wouldn't be shedding any tears. Whereas the non canon version of FMA, I felt more emotionally attached towards the characters while watching the series, pretty much immediately after Episode 3, during the scene where they burned down their own house. I feel it's this type of emotional quality that's lacking in Brotherhood that's preventing me of liking the series more than the other version. Another problem I have is the music. So far the OST for Brotherhood is unimpressive at best. The Opening and Ending theme songs are good, but credit to that goes to the artists, not the anime. As for the OST in the earlier version of FMA, it's much better. The music adds a great touch to a lot of scenes throughout the series that gives it an edge over Brotherhood in my opinion. So anyways, that's my two cents. The reason why I like the non canon FMA better than Brotherhood is simple enough. I feel that the previous version had better delivery in telling the story, whereas Brotherhood doesn't come close in that department in my view. If they were to change the pacing and music, I think it would have been better. I find it odd sometimes that people complain about people complaining about the pacing of Brotherhood. "Stop complaining about it being rushed, it's not rushed, etc." When Nina is introduced and killed off in the very same episode, and I could care less, it's due to it being rushed coupled with poor delivery. The other version built up to that point, which in turn caused the desired effect. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna complain about the pacing. I honestly had high hopes before Brotherhood started, thinking it would be the best series airing this Spring. So far I don't think that's the case though. |
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| I don't really have much too say about art and music, because it all has been already said, but I really appreciate that Brootherhood is much less emo that 1st. The tension so far was really balanced and similar to that in manga. Remember when watching 1st I had moments when I thought "it's so sad that almost funny". They overdid it. And if they try to follow plot and don't do Lior-or-nazi-shit again I will be satisfied enough ^^ |
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| I know it is still too early for compare them but if they follow manga exactly, FMAB will be really great(or maybe even a masterpiece). I am not obsessed with violence but for FMAB it is vital in some parts so, I hope they do not hold back about violence. Like I said it is still too early even for comments(some people writes REVIEW). Also the difference between FMA and FMAB not even started and it is still at 9th episode. |
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AtomicNerd said: So far I'm still not liking FMA Brotherhood more than the non canon version. My problem with the series is that I feel a sort of apathy towards the characters. If Scar should show up randomly and off Ed in the middle of the streets in Central, I wouldn't be shedding any tears. Whereas the non canon version of FMA, I felt more emotionally attached towards the characters while watching the series, pretty much immediately after Episode 3, during the scene where they burned down their own house. I feel it's this type of emotional quality that's lacking in Brotherhood that's preventing me of liking the series more than the other version. Another problem I have is the music. So far the OST for Brotherhood is unimpressive at best. The Opening and Ending theme songs are good, but credit to that goes to the artists, not the anime. As for the OST in the earlier version of FMA, it's much better. The music adds a great touch to a lot of scenes throughout the series that gives it an edge over Brotherhood in my opinion. So anyways, that's my two cents. The reason why I like the non canon FMA better than Brotherhood is simple enough. I feel that the previous version had better delivery in telling the story, whereas Brotherhood doesn't come close in that department in my view. If they were to change the pacing and music, I think it would have been better. I find it odd sometimes that people complain about people complaining about the pacing of Brotherhood. "Stop complaining about it being rushed, it's not rushed, etc." When Nina is introduced and killed off in the very same episode, and I could care less, it's due to it being rushed coupled with poor delivery. The other version built up to that point, which in turn caused the desired effect. So yeah, I'm definitely gonna complain about the pacing. I honestly had high hopes before Brotherhood started, thinking it would be the best series airing this Spring. So far I don't think that's the case though. You see what you see as minus for FMA:B I and many others see as plus. FMA1 dragged the stuff WAY TOO MUCH, with your forementioned Nina everyone was already waiting for her to be offed in her second episode and etc. There was no tension, no atmosphere... you could fast-forward episodes if you wanted in fma1. |
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Fai said: "You see what you see as minus for FMA:B I and many others see as plus." Let's clarify what I found as a negative in FMA Brotherhood. I thought the music, pacing, and delivery was worse than the non canon version. So instead of addressing these issues I had, you're just going to ignore them and call those attributes I guess >_> Fai said: "You see what you see as minus for FMA:B I and many others see as plus. FMA1 dragged the stuff WAY TOO MUCH, with your forementioned Nina everyone was already waiting for her to be offed in her second episode and etc." I would love to speak in behalf of other people as you have twice, but unfortunately I can only offer my own opinions on this issue. So regarding your statement about Nina, I'll have to disagree. I believe only impatient people who already knew what happened wished for her quick demise, and not everybody. |
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AtomicNerd said: music . For now I am loving every piece of music i hear in FMA2 , while I can't remember any songs from FMA1 ("Brothers" does not count since its overrated generic song everyone praises because its overrated) AtomicNerd said: , pacing, The only episode to have bad pacing IMO was ep2. AtomicNerd said: and delivery was worse The way FMA2 did Liore beats the gay-parrots and random black people of FMA1 out of the water. The way FMA2 did Tucker stuff beats the overly annoying parrot tucker of fma1. The way fma2 did gate scene beats practically anything in the LOLNAZIALTERNATIVEWORLDOFOURS concept of fma1. The way FMA2 did aftermath of Nina was much more realistic than emo-ed of fma1. The way fma2 did state alchemist exam was much more epic and intense than random "we LOL STUDY because obviously our current knowledge is not enough" stuff of fma1. The way FMA2 presented Al's "alive" angst is way better than random pathetic run-off of fma1 where Al's character was completely destroyed. need i continue? |
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Fai said: For now I am loving every piece of music i hear in FMA2 , while I can't remember any songs from FMA1 ("Brothers" does not count since its overrated generic song everyone praises because its overrated) It's funny, cause I think you discrediting things of merit just comes naturally to you. I'm sure "Brothers" shouldn't count because it's only praised for being overrated as you said. I mean, it couldn't possibly be praised because people liked the song, right? You sure made a strong argument there. *cough* Sarcasm *cough* Fai said: The way FMA2 did Liore beats the gay-parrots and random black people of FMA1 out of the water. The way FMA2 did Tucker stuff beats the overly annoying parrot tucker of fma1. The way fma2 did gate scene beats practically anything in the LOLNAZIALTERNATIVEWORLDOFOURS concept of fma1. The way FMA2 did aftermath of Nina was much more realistic than emo-ed of fma1. The way fma2 did state alchemist exam was much more epic and intense than random "we LOL STUDY because obviously our current knowledge is not enough" stuff of fma1. The way FMA2 presented Al's "alive" angst is way better than random pathetic run-off of fma1 where Al's character was completely destroyed. need i continue? I like how you phrase your own opinions as though they are facts when they are just your opinions. Just because you say something like, Fai said: "The way fma2 did gate scene beats practically anything in the LOLNAZIALTERNATIVEWORLDOFOURS concept of fma1." for instance, doesn't make it true. But you could be right about this. Afterall, that scene from Brotherhood you mentioned did win in 3 categories in the Tokyo Anime Fair, along with the best animated film prize in the Fantasia International Film Festival. Oh wait, that was FMA: Conqueror of Shamballa that won those awards. My bad, how could I have thought for a moment a brief scene from Brotherhood was practically better than anything Conqueror of Shamballa had to offer. Sounds like something an irrational bias person would say if you ask me. I think you made it very clear you dislike FMA's non canon version simply because it's not canon. So unless you make some strong arguments instead of attacking all things non canon, you won't be changing my mind anytime soon. Just remember that stating your own opinions as facts doesn't make it less debatable. |
AtomicNerdMay 31, 2009 9:46 PM
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AtomicNerd said: for instance, doesn't make it true. But you could be right about this. Afterall, that scene from Brotherhood you mentioned did win in 3 categories in the Tokyo Anime Fair, along with the best animated film prize in the Fantasia International Film Festival. Oh wait, that was FMA: Conqueror of Shamballa that won those awards. My bad, how could I have thought for a moment a brief scene from Brotherhood was practically better than anything Conqueror of Shamballa had to offer. Sounds like something an irrational bias person would say if you ask me. So I should worship that horrible movie just because someone rated it as best? Hell I might as well woship Gonzo version of Hellsing then... Shamballa is horror which was not needed. IF FMA1 was watchable(although the last facepalm-worthy 10 episodes were very bad) the movie was just horrible and pointless. FMA1, as it were, was better off having the ending it had in anime. AtomicNerd said: I think you made it very clear you dislike FMA's non canon version simply because it's not canon. So unless you make some strong arguments instead of attacking all things non canon, you won't be changing my mind anytime soon. Oh and why should I want to change the mind of someone, when stating my opinion? And no I dislike FMA1 decisions because they are ridiculous, not because they "were not in the best manga". I will never take seriously things like Rabbit Tucker or Parrot Boyfriend, or Dante, for that matter. If they were in manga I would have exact same opinion I have now about them. I don't know what Mizushima was smoking when he thought up these horrible horrible things, but he better not smoke that anymore... Dante just ruined the FMA1 in itself. Such stupid character premise is something I will laugh at for a long long time. Well, not a character premise, but how she was presented...I do not know any other character who would plan such dumb xanathos roulette as she did.(let's eradicate a nation, so someone would survive and create a stone for me, ok? LOL) And whatever good he did with FMA1 was negated by stupid inclusion of Zeppelins from another world cliche. Gate concept worked perfectly when we did NOT know what was in the other side. It was Lovecraftian object giving the sense of mistery and horror at the same time. Even if Mizushima wanted to use the zeppelin trope - we were better off just seing a few seconds of that "world" with Ed latter commenting that there's another world like ours in other side. Hell I could live with how it was neeedlessly expanded in fma1 anime, but movie? Oh please, Uwe Boll works look like masterpieces when compared to Shamballa of Fail. |
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Fai said: "So I should worship that horrible movie just because someone rated it as best? Hell I might as well woship Gonzo version of Hellsing then..." I only mentioned the movie won in 3 categories in the Tokyo Anime Fair, along with the best animated film prize in the Fantasia International Film Festival. The purpose was so people would read that, along with your statement that you thought a brief scene in Brotherhood was better than practically anything in the movie. That way, they might come to the same conclusion as I have concerning your judgment. No matter how you look at it, it's not something a rational fan of the series would say. You're entitled to your own opinions though, but that doesn't mean I won't point out how ridiculous I found that statement. All I can say concerning your 3-4 min of Brotherhood > FMA: Conqueror of Shamballa remark is that I disagree. Fai said: "Hell I could live with how it was neeedlessly expanded in fma1 anime, but movie? Oh please, Uwe Boll works look like masterpieces when compared to Shamballa of Fail." I see your exaggeration knows no bounds, along with your endless supply of hate. You can pretty much voice your hate about the movie all you want, doesn't change the fact that it's not a bad movie. It'll need more of a general consensus to make that so, regardless of how many all caps you use in past or future remarks concerning it. Fai said: And no I dislike FMA1 decisions because they are ridiculous, not because they "were not in the best manga". Everything you hate on is non canon, so you sure could have fooled me. Fai said: "I don't know what Mizushima was smoking when he thought up these horrible horrible things, but he better not smoke that anymore..." Some might wonder what you were smoking when comparing his work to Uwe Boll's. Fai said: "Oh and why should I want to change the mind of someone, when stating my opinion?" Clearly you can't. The only factors that will change my opinions is FMA Brotherhood itself, or someone who's clearly better at conveying the positives of Brotherhood than you are. I doubt I'll ever enjoy Brotherhood more than the non canon version FMA. Whether or not I will grow to like the series more depends on what remains to be seen. Until that happens, it'll only be an average series from my point of view. |
AtomicNerdJun 1, 2009 11:47 AM
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| I find that endings are one of the hardest aspects to get right and leave the audience with a sense of completion. I personally consider the first FMA anime ending + the movie ending as the single greatest ending to any story in any medium. Seems very much like a love/hate thing. Additionally, it seems that those who are fascinated with WWI or WWII have the same outlook on the movie as I. **SPOILER if you haven't seen The Conqueror of Shambala**: I was also captivated by the idea that every transmutation took something of value from the other world; it really seemed to complete the story and give an explanation as to why transmutations can actually happen, a truly fascinating idea that they thought up. I assume nothing like that was in the manga, correct me if I'm wrong. I am very interested in seeing how the manga's story will unfold in this new series, hopefully it will be as creative as the first series' ending. |
DunkyJun 1, 2009 3:28 PM
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| Although I feel that it is a tad unfair to compare the two series' I will add my two cents to this mix. Generally I feel that FMA2 is stronger. The characters are a little more vivid and it doesn't just skirt over emotions but it also doesn't dedicate one episode to the cause. It allows for the story to keep moving with in everyone's sadness. For example Have you ever watched one of those animes what when someone died that plot reached a halt so everyone could be depressed for a while. That flaw with story telling is no longer in this story line allowing for expression in the story. Since FMA2 follows the manga, it seems to be more rapidly working towards a plot. Which is better because then you know that it is going somewhere and will have a build that makes sense. For in FMA1 you would spend a long time either looking for the plot or dwelling on a rather insignificant point. A read some of the complaints before posting this about the anime being too rushed. Since it is staying true to the flow of the manga it seems pointless to add unnecessary dialogue because you want to complain about speed. That is the speed the manga traveled at so either get on the train or get off. Just because the story moves faster doesn't mean that it is a rush job, it just means that it has a pace of its own. I'm sorry that it isn't up to how you would like your anime paced. But in general the story moves at a good speed. There were a few episodes sloshed over but it seems to get better over time. Also if the characters were not inportant in the manga then they will not be cover this season. So no Rose was not important so it is not that the characters are being forgotten it is just that you didn't need to form attachments to them. From a different stand point, I didn't watch the original in Japanese. I can into the first one too late in the game and just watched it in english. So I can't say neither here nor their about their last voice actors. But personally I enjoy their voices as they stand. I love this Envy much more then last Envy, much better character this time though. Thought I should state that Envy is not my favorite or anything just an observation. Now this is just my opinion so, take it or leave it. |
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| Ok, after episode 13, my hopes went up. I am REALLY looking forward to the episodes every week now. |
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| Well the Brotherhood one its better because graphics are better, more hilarious, the vids work... cause if you search for some fma it wont show... and the op and ed are cool |
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| While it's true that we really got attached to the characters in the first series, but from what I remember in the manga, we didn't have much time to connect to them before they died. The new anime is around the same pace as the manga, at the most only slightly more rushed. I really liked the whole serious mood of the first series, but I think I don't have the patience to go through the whole emo thing anymore. P: Rather my patience in general has gotten a lot shorter, so its brief pace makes FMA: B a great entertainment for me now. Didn't have much trouble adapting to the new style, since I don't remember much of how FMA 1 looked like. The really humorous chibi style is nice, but I can't help but feel they're using it as means of shortcut. They're taking advantage of the chibi style that they didn't have for a lot of their previous projects. P: In fact, the whole animation quality, while of coursed polished HD quality, the whole animation itself feels inferior to the first anime. The coloring is not amazing either, and it feels reaaallly shaky at times. As for the characters themselves, they are more likable. I like Ed and Al in the first series, but I don't know if I would like them the same if I watched FMA 1 for the first time now...you know with all the angst. Especially Winry, I really like her now. She feels like a really strong character compared to the first series. As for Roy, Maes Hughes, and etc. it's true they didn't show more of their sillier sides, but I prefer it that way. More mature portrayal than silly things for fangirls to giggle over. ....is it only me or are they emphasizing Winry and Elric brothers' relationship and such more than the first one? Less things for fangirls to scream over..? I mean few Roy and Ed scenes and Elric brothers don't spend as much time being angsty over each other. Oh and the OP/ED are wonderfully catchy just like the first series. Apparently there are new ones in the latest episodes so I'll see about those. |
| The original was about three times more in depth, much darker and better, with better music, etc. In all fairness, this is good, but it's depressing watching it because a) it's not as good and b) I already know exactly what's gonna happen each episode. I imagine it'll get better eventually, but I really don't like how they're focusing so much on the cartoonish comedy in what would otherwise be serious moments. It makes it kinda hard to take seriously. Although, I'm giving it a chance to be good because I hated how the first series ended, and I'd really like to see it done right. By that, I mean leaving our world out of the story completely. |
| I don't get the complaints about things being rushed. We've already seen all that in s1 or read it in the manga anyways, why waste time doing everything again? It's obviously going to be vastly superior to the first series in terms of story and character development as well as animation, so I'll say the newest one. |
pegsue99 said: come on... I dont mind it being rushed, we already know what happened. This newer episodes are really interesting, and are going at a slower pace now Actuall;y no. Its the same pace as before. 2 Chapters/Episode ;] |
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| i liked the original version for the graphics, art. but the actuel version is very good. i just can't choose between the two when the actuel one isn't completed ^^' i love both! |
| I have to agree with the people who are saying that the first series was much more serious. There's too much added chibi things, even if they were in the manga. I understand that there's only about 15 episodes out, but so far the first one is much more serious. I love both of them however and have good expectations from the upcoming episodes. |
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Grmo said: I imagine it'll get better eventually, but I really don't like how they're focusing so much on the cartoonish comedy in what would otherwise be serious moments. It makes it kinda hard to take seriously. To put it simply, Arakawa wanted her story to be entertaining, which does mean adding bits of comedy into the mix. Too serious and it'll turn off some people, and vice versa with the comedy. She wanted to reach some middle ground. Some like it, some don't. But compared to the FMA1's attempts of trying to bring the "cratoonish comedy" into scenes, FMAB does a much better job of it. |
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