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Nov 4, 2012 11:51 PM
#1
As I've already downloaded it, I need to know if it's as good or better than the for the moment ongoing anime? |
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Nov 5, 2012 12:02 AM
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Rawrol said: The VN is better. Then I have something too look forward too, Nice Girls of the Wild picture btw! |
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Jan 18, 2013 10:36 PM
#4
Little Busters had 230+ hours worth of gameplay (not including refrain here) and J.C Staff summarizes it into 26 episodes. Each heroine gets 2~3 episodes for her arc. There are a total of 6 heroines, so that would total 12~18 episodes. Refrain lasted more than 5 hours for me, and with just that I already felt as if Jun Maeda had rushed the entire thing. I'd say, the anime could have been better, but its not. No matter what epic ending or summarizing J.C Staff could possibly offer, 26 episodes isn't gonna cut it. Conclusion: The anime is but a small spec compared to the epicness the visual novel had to offer |
Jan 19, 2013 2:04 AM
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ell218 said: I'd say, the anime could have been better, but its not. No matter what epic ending or summarizing J.C Staff could possibly offer, 26 episodes isn't gonna cut it.r they did announce a while back that it isn't going to stop at 26 episodes, there will be more than that. |
Jan 19, 2013 2:13 AM
#6
Try the VN if you want to know what's happening in the anime more better |
Jan 19, 2013 6:01 AM
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Noumi_Kudryavka said: ell218 said: I'd say, the anime could have been better, but its not. No matter what epic ending or summarizing J.C Staff could possibly offer, 26 episodes isn't gonna cut it.r they did announce a while back that it isn't going to stop at 26 episodes, there will be more than that. If what you said is true, then the better it can get. Looking at your avatar, I'd guess your favorite route is Kud's right? You should be able to understand my feelings when I see that Kud's route is diminished to a mere 3 episodes T_T |
Jan 19, 2013 6:57 AM
#9
The anime is doing a fairly decent job at adapting it, but the experience would not only be an improvement, but it would be a different way to take in the experience as well. In Komari's arc, I would say that it is definitely better in the VN than it was in the anime. Mio's route, I enjoyed it more in the anime, but it was better in the VN and of course you get a different version of the story with the romance still intact. Not only that, but you get the glorious experience of viewing Refrain without having to wait so long to see it in the anime (that would be the greatest bonus you would get from playing the visual novel). |
Jan 22, 2013 8:59 PM
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Jan 22, 2013 9:32 PM
#11
Better if you're familiar with visual novels, otherwise it may seem extremely boring for a very long time. But better. |
Jan 23, 2013 9:15 AM
#12
You can turn Komari's voice off in the VN. If that doesn't sell you on the idea that it's better, then nothing will. Also, someone said that it takes 230~ hours to beat it earlier - what? I don't remember my time, but I am positive that I didn't take over 200 hours to beat the thing. I would think it'd be more accurate to say that I beat it in roughly 100~ hours. |
Jan 23, 2013 1:02 PM
#13
I beat it in about 50-60 hours, but didn't do the EXroutes. It might take 200 hours if you don't skim through the common route during every heroine's route playthrough, but otherwise it shouldn't take a ridiculous amount of time. Once you get through one character route, the entire rest of the game is smooth sailing, and you'll quickly be immersed in the world of Little Busters. LB was my first VN, but nothing grabbed me and got my hooked as quickly as LB. G-senjou no Maou, Rewrite, Fate/Stay Night are good, but I don't feel deeply compelled to finish them lol. Personally, I wish I could re-play Refrain without knowing the ending, and maybe the individual route endings. |
Vladz0rJan 23, 2013 7:25 PM
Jan 23, 2013 3:26 PM
#14
SleepingEntity said: Better if you're familiar with visual novels, otherwise it may seem extremely boring for a very long time. But better. Clannad was the 300 hour guide, EX was THAT MUCH LONGER than Clannad so..... Still can't understand why someone can hate Komari's voice. LB VN is good. VN overall are good for the soul. |
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Jan 23, 2013 10:52 PM
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Pjupp said: As I've already downloaded it, I need to know if it's as good or better than the for the moment ongoing anime? WAAAAY BETTER! |
Jan 23, 2013 10:56 PM
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Jan 24, 2013 4:23 AM
#17
As I'm a type of person that who isn't comparing between the anime version and the original source(VN), it really depends on you since the anime version and the original source had kind of different atmosphere. Different atmosphere means there are parts that won't see in the anime version. If you want to watch the anime version of Little Busters but on the other way around, wait for the EX paths(Kanata's, Sasami's, Saya's) to be adapted as anime. Sure both in the VN and their anime adaption will have the same atmosphere. That's why I have higher hopes about adapting the EX paths than the regular paths + Refrain. |
Jan 24, 2013 12:03 PM
#18
Pjupp said: As I've already downloaded it, I need to know if it's as good or better than the for the moment ongoing anime? The VN is way, way better. At this point, I just see the anime as some enjoyment for those who played the VN and want to see some scenes animated (even though JC animation is really average). Let's say that I disagree that the anime is a good adaptation. Surely it is faithful to the main events of the story and is telling it in a new perspective, but some strong pacing issues can ruin the experience for most anime-only viewers. The common route adaptation is the main source of the problem: introductions of characters and comedy scenes are way too stretched, taking time that could be used to character development; one route was inserted before the end of the introductions; also, Rin's development feel inconsistent. The girls routes until now range from average (Komari) to good (Mio), they are the best adapted parts; homever, when the whole content doesn't make the audience feel for the characters, they are kinda ineffective. That's why I think VN fans has most chance of liking them (since they already know the original story). Also, there's a "storytelling trick" that the anime can't reproduce entirely, no matter how good that adaptation could be. Can't say more because of spoilers, but when you finish the VN you'll understand what it is. tl;dr play the VN and (if you like it) watch the anime after for some nostalgia - unless you get too irritated with severe pacing problems and lack of romance in some routes. |
Jan 24, 2013 1:42 PM
#19
This VN was more satisfying than sex. The VN will get you intimately involved in the Little Busters universe, and help you get to know and enjoy the anime cast. By the time you complete the first route, the entire cast will have already "grown on you" more than if you had seen the entire first 25 episodes, because of all the time and varied events you participate in, from a first person perspective. Then, you get to replay the game with different twists, prioritizing a new heroine each time, until the Refrain route. By then, you'll be able to practically predict how a character will speak and react to anything, and they'll become some of your closest friends (or waifus/husbandos *ahem* Kyousuke/Kud/Kurugaya- K-squad too strong) Yeah, it's a whole different and wonderful experience. I wish I could wipe my memory and do it over again. |
Jan 24, 2013 3:39 PM
#20
Vladz0r said: This VN was more satisfying than sex. But I can say the opposite for the sex in the VN, oh Key you troll you.... |
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Jan 24, 2013 3:42 PM
#21
blasterion said: Vladz0r said: This VN was more satisfying than sex. But I can say the opposite for the sex in the VN, oh Key you troll you.... Couldn't play the EX version with those scenes, but I have the CGs downloaded in a folder ;3 |
Jan 24, 2013 5:05 PM
#22
Vladz0r said: blasterion said: Vladz0r said: This VN was more satisfying than sex. But I can say the opposite for the sex in the VN, oh Key you troll you.... Couldn't play the EX version with those scenes, but I have the CGs downloaded in a folder ;3 H-scenes aren't bad (wait yes they were, with unfitting music to go with it) Taking an advantage of Komari was just.... Damn Riki, damn.....RIKI!!!! |
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Jan 24, 2013 8:41 PM
#23
Vladz0r said: The VN will get you intimately involved in the Little Busters universe, and help you get to know and enjoy the anime cast. By the time you complete the first route, the entire cast will have already "grown on you" more than if you had seen the entire first 25 episodes, because of all the time and varied events you participate in, from a first person perspective. That also applies to the anime itself. It seriously depends on a person whether they prefer to see the anime adaptation or the original source. The adaptation isn't really bad unlike Tsukihime anime so if they enjoyed the anime itself and completely satisfied with it, there's no need for them to go play its VN unless they want to feel a kind of different atmosphere. No significant events were left out in the anime, only some trivial things so they don't make any difference in terms of enjoyment. This thread only leaves "Which kind of atmosphere do you prefer?". |
TennoujiJan 24, 2013 9:46 PM
Feb 3, 2013 6:29 AM
#24
To summarize everything that I know...... 1.) The visual Novel is considered an epic Visual Novel with 100 hours + gameplay WHERE EVERY LINE OF DIALOGUE COUNTS TO THE EPICNESS OF THE VN (if you choose to skip the common route it'll be 80+ hours, to be safe, I'll make it 100+ hours. If you don't skip, it'll take you 230+ hours) The anime CANNOT summarize a 100+ hour gameplay in 26 Season1+26 second season (if there IS a second season which would most probably be refrain) episodes cannot contain 100+ hours of gameplay. 2.) J.C Staff has enhanced the comedy of the anime, much like how KyoAni was able to make the Clannad anime funnier than the actual Visual Novel, HOWEVER, unlike KyoAni, J.C Staff added a few unnecessary scenes in some of the episodes, whereas KyoAni never added original content into Clannad other than combining Tomoyo route and Kyou route, then making them heartbroken at the end is purely Original from KyoAni (comment on that if I'm wrong). 3.) Unlike KyoAni, J.C Staff rushed the routes of the girls into 1 season (please note that I am 100% sure that they will finish all routes by the end of the first season, if there will be second season, its definitely only for refrain). KyoAni never rushed on the routes, but they DID do something worse, which was completely ignore 3 routes namely Kyou, Tomoyo and Kappei routes. (Kyou and Tomoyo are summarized in 1 episode, which is what I consider to be very stupid since each route from the original VN took me more than 23 hours each. I have no idea what happened to Kappei, but I can guess that they didn't include him since that would mess up future episodes for Kyou). NOTE: I'm not saying J.C Staff is worse than KyoAni, and please don't group me with the KyoAni groupies that are complaining simply because LB will be made by J.C Rather than KyoAni. For me, the reason why I'm complaining is because KyoAni would have made a better job since their more experienced in making Key's visual novels. I could care less who or what company makes the LB anime, all I care about is that they make a good job doing it. 4.) There is no existing anime that has EVER surpassed their Visual Novel counterparts. NEVER(Unless the VN is a total piece of shit, and the anime revised almost all scenes because of its shitiness) The only way to actually surpass the visual novel is to make an aanime that can last for more than 80 episodes, and is able to put EVERY SINGLE dialogue that was shown in the game. (Note that using the trick used by Amagami by having one route per arc then goes back to square one at the start of the next arc will not be effective in key's visual novels because ALL of key's visual novel's routes are connected to each other) 5.) Finally, the way they depict the dramatic scenes is simply too dull. The emotions aren't shown very much, and the visual novel was simply pictures and voices, and yet THAT made me more sad than this sh*t drama they gave out. I guess J.C Staff is emphasizing on friendships rather than the actual drama itself. WHICH IS EXACTLY WHY I F*CKING SAID I WANTED A KYOANI X KEY COLLABORATION, SINCE KYOANI ALWAYS STAYS LOYAL TO THE ORIGINAL CONTENT AND IS PRAISED FOR ACCURACY ON CONVEYING THE EMOTIONS. Once again I remind that I'm not a KyoAni fanboy that flames every single time KyoAni isn't praised. Conclusion: Well....despite all the ridiculing, I can't really say that the anime is a fail. The anime is quite good actually, but if your comparing with its original visual novel, it'll simply be a spec of dust compared to the original. If your looking for comedy though, the anime is most definitely better. Some of the jokes in the visual novel are sometimes dull without proper animation. |
Naoe-RikiFeb 3, 2013 6:38 AM
Feb 3, 2013 6:44 AM
#25
I had to mute Komari voice at one point it sounded like Porn The anime is doing a great job i think you could get away with watching certain episodes of the anime all common routes and skipping them on the visual novel right through the girls route. But all in all i want to believe that J.C staff is saving the emotions until refrain. |
Feb 3, 2013 9:15 AM
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planetarian said: I had to mute Komari voice at one point it sounded like Porn The anime is doing a great job i think you could get away with watching certain episodes of the anime all common routes and skipping them on the visual novel right through the girls route. But all in all i want to believe that J.C staff is saving the emotions until refrain. I recommended this to a friend of mine (although he's lazy as fawk and doesn't want to do it.) Yes, you could probably read all the girls' route endings in order and skip the common route in the VN, but I'd recommend waiting for the season to end if you're going to do that. Also, I'd recommend reading through Mio's route even though it was animated. Komari's can be skipped. There are a few things in the common route that are vital to the story, primarily some scenes with the original Little Busters members that have yet to be animated. (Kengo Kyousuke Masato Riki Rin) |
Feb 3, 2013 2:11 PM
#27
Im now downloading the visual novel, i want to get everything out of this XD i may have seen a few spoiler but that wont stop me! |
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Feb 3, 2013 2:12 PM
#28
truesoul said: Im now downloading the visual novel, i want to get everything out of this XD i may have seen a few spoiler but that wont stop me! Good luck, and hope you enjoy. Useful guide: http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=LB!:Walkthrough |
Feb 3, 2013 2:48 PM
#29
Vladz0r said: truesoul said: Im now downloading the visual novel, i want to get everything out of this XD i may have seen a few spoiler but that wont stop me! Good luck, and hope you enjoy. Useful guide: http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=LB!:Walkthrough thank you :) and i will ;D |
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Feb 8, 2013 7:08 AM
#30
I am not exactly sure where should i ask this but can anyone please tell me difference between the versions of LB! ? I wanna start the game badly but i am not sure which version i should play. And does anyone know the status of the translation for LB? Thanks. |
Feb 8, 2013 7:16 AM
#31
Little Busters! is the vanilla version of the game. Ends after refrain and does not include H scenes Little Busters! Ecstasy adds several lines to some of the routes, includes 3 extra routes (Kanata, Sasami, Saya) as well as H-scenes. Little Busters! Memorial version is basically Ecstasy without the H-scenes. Little Busters! Perfect edition just came out and is basically Ecstasy with additional voice acting for side characters. (A-chan, Suginami, etc.) The translation for the regular version is 100% translated to english. Ecstasy translation has translated pretty much everything BUT they have just started translating Saya's route which is INCREDIBLY long (don't expect to see a full translation for a couple more months to a year) Also I do not believe they are going to be releasing a partial patch so pretty much there is no translation up for Kanata/Sasami routes at this time. I see people asking all the time whether they should wait for the ecstasy translation and i'm going to say NO to that. The translation is going to take a pretty damn long time to come out, and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain so you won't be missing much by playing the original version besides a few additional lines in Haruka/Kud routes. |
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Feb 8, 2013 8:08 AM
#32
Funya-Usagi said: Little Busters! is the vanilla version of the game. Ends after refrain and does not include H scenes Little Busters! Ecstasy adds several lines to some of the routes, includes 3 extra routes (Kanata, Sasami, Saya) as well as H-scenes. Little Busters! Memorial version is basically Ecstasy without the H-scenes. Little Busters! Perfect edition just came out and is basically Ecstasy with additional voice acting for side characters. (A-chan, Suginami, etc.) The translation for the regular version is 100% translated to english. Ecstasy translation has translated pretty much everything BUT they have just started translating Saya's route which is INCREDIBLY long (don't expect to see a full translation for a couple more months to a year) Also I do not believe they are going to be releasing a partial patch so pretty much there is no translation up for Kanata/Sasami routes at this time. I see people asking all the time whether they should wait for the ecstasy translation and i'm going to say NO to that. The translation is going to take a pretty damn long time to come out, and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain so you won't be missing much by playing the original version besides a few additional lines in Haruka/Kud routes. Thanks a lot for the quick reply. So perfect version just has additional voice acting. Ecstasy looks tempting to me but i guess it's better to play the vanilla version first and wait for the translation. |
Feb 8, 2013 8:09 AM
#33
Funya-Usagi said: Little Busters! is the vanilla version of the game. Ends after refrain and does not include H scenes Little Busters! Ecstasy adds several lines to some of the routes, includes 3 extra routes (Kanata, Sasami, Saya) as well as H-scenes. Little Busters! Memorial version is basically Ecstasy without the H-scenes. Little Busters! Perfect edition just came out and is basically Ecstasy with additional voice acting for side characters. (A-chan, Suginami, etc.) The translation for the regular version is 100% translated to english. Ecstasy translation has translated pretty much everything BUT they have just started translating Saya's route which is INCREDIBLY long (don't expect to see a full translation for a couple more months to a year) Also I do not believe they are going to be releasing a partial patch so pretty much there is no translation up for Kanata/Sasami routes at this time. I see people asking all the time whether they should wait for the ecstasy translation and i'm going to say NO to that. The translation is going to take a pretty damn long time to come out, and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain so you won't be missing much by playing the original version besides a few additional lines in Haruka/Kud routes. What he said. Don't bother waiting for the next versions. Just grab whatever is available now I did a little bit of half-assed math to estimate the time needed for the translation to be completed based on their advances during the last 4 months and my guess is that in order to translate the entirety of Saya route, they will need about 5-6 Months. Considering that there's also a lot of editing and proofreading to do afterwards... well, let's say it will take a while until they can release a 100% EX/ME patch.^^ It's just a rough estimation though. There could be about 100 reasons why they might get it done sooner and about 1000 possible causes for them to take longer. |
Feb 10, 2013 10:36 PM
#34
So the Little Busters VN is 200+ hours? That seems kinda overkill, like it'll just drag on. I was planning to play it but now I'm not so sure. Probably why KyoAni decided not to do it huh? Also, I completely disagree with Naoe-Riki on many points: 1) First off, I found the humor in the Clannad VN to be more funny that the anime but that's completely based on opinion. Its a case to case basis though though; some scenes were done better in the anime but the game had a lot of scenes (due to more routes) and therefore a lot more Sunohara moments. 2) What isn't based on opinion (okay, everything is based on opinion to some extent) is that KyoAni made ABSOLUTELY the right choice to NOT include the Tomoyo and Kyou route in the main story of the anime. The only ones would disagree are hopeless Kyou and Tomoyo fanboys. Their routes are mutually exclusive to Nagisa's because they HAVE to be Tomoya's love interest for their routes to work. KyoAni probably cut the OVA of their routes short because their routes, while good on their own, pales in comparison to Nagisa's and "After Story," their fanboys may disagree but its the truth. If KyoAni felt their routes were profitable or brought a lot of meaning to the series, they probably would had extended the OVAs. I do agree that they should had included Kappei's story, it would only take 1 episode at most and could easily be worked around Nagisa's route. I guess it was a time issue and they didn't feel it all that necessary. 3) Lastly, I thought the animated version of Clannad was a bit better than the VN. Yes, things were lost in the anime, especially if you included the other routes, but KyoAni did such a great job of transitioning the main story that the sole fact that the anime is animated made the presentation of the anime so much better. Unlike VNs like Fate/Stay Night, where each route is "complete" and essential in their rights, Clannad is built upon Nagisa's route. Even if the anime did not do enough justice for the other routes, it didn't really diminish the anime all that much as long as it did Nagisa's route right. |
Feb 10, 2013 10:43 PM
#35
I'd say around 50-60 hours (excluding EX routes). Including the EX routes, around 80 hours. Even if you read insanely slow, it's nowhere near 200 hours unless you re-read the common route every time or something. |
Feb 11, 2013 1:41 PM
#36
Dragon_Slayer_X said: Funya-Usagi said: Little Busters! is the vanilla version of the game. Ends after refrain and does not include H scenes Little Busters! Ecstasy adds several lines to some of the routes, includes 3 extra routes (Kanata, Sasami, Saya) as well as H-scenes. Little Busters! Memorial version is basically Ecstasy without the H-scenes. Little Busters! Perfect edition just came out and is basically Ecstasy with additional voice acting for side characters. (A-chan, Suginami, etc.) The translation for the regular version is 100% translated to english. Ecstasy translation has translated pretty much everything BUT they have just started translating Saya's route which is INCREDIBLY long (don't expect to see a full translation for a couple more months to a year) Also I do not believe they are going to be releasing a partial patch so pretty much there is no translation up for Kanata/Sasami routes at this time. I see people asking all the time whether they should wait for the ecstasy translation and i'm going to say NO to that. The translation is going to take a pretty damn long time to come out, and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain so you won't be missing much by playing the original version besides a few additional lines in Haruka/Kud routes. Thanks a lot for the quick reply. So perfect version just has additional voice acting. Ecstasy looks tempting to me but i guess it's better to play the vanilla version first and wait for the translation. Just like how everyone said, I'd suggest ME/EX over the vanilla version. (and PE over ME if Doki/Team Fluffy decides to make a patch for it) Why? It doesn't make sense to play the original and then get the ME/EX version as the ME/EX version at the moment is exactly like the vanilla version. The only difference is that you'll run into a few extra untranslated lines and not be able to do the Muscle Sensation (which isn't a big deal as it's uploaded on youtube). And like Funya said, the EX routes are intended to be read after you've finished Refrain as they're locked until you finish Refrain (unless if you choose Yes on the Secrets of the World part). |
Feb 12, 2013 3:29 AM
#37
Funya-Usagi said: and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain Correction, the events of Kanata's path is still before Refrain but it can be after Haruka's path. But yes, you can only access Kanata's path and the other 2 EX paths after beating Refrain. The only EX path that it takes place after the story of Refrain is Sasami's path. Saya's path is the 2nd story/interloped story of LB. |
TennoujiFeb 12, 2013 3:35 AM
Feb 12, 2013 3:32 AM
#38
Feb 28, 2013 6:01 AM
#39
Read the VN. If you're desperate like I was (after reading spoilers), you can finish the VN within a week without the all mighty ctrl button by waking up early in the morning and play for 12 hrs, repeating this process for a week. |
Feb 28, 2013 12:08 PM
#40
egnaro315 said: Read the VN. If you're desperate like I was (after reading spoilers), you can finish the VN within a week without the all mighty ctrl button by waking up early in the morning and play for 12 hrs, repeating this process for a week. Indeed, this is the only way to do it ;D Just head straight into it and enjoy. |
Feb 28, 2013 5:28 PM
#41
Sa-chan_ said: Funya-Usagi said: and the 3 extra routes pretty much happens after Refrain Correction, the events of Kanata's path is still before Refrain but it can be after Haruka's path. But yes, you can only access Kanata's path and the other 2 EX paths after beating Refrain. The only EX path that it takes place after the story of Refrain is Sasami's path. Saya's path is the 2nd story/interloped story of LB. Whoops, I wasn't even thinking when I posted, you're correct. Haha, been a while, but yeah only Sasami's path was actually after Refrain. Vladz0r said: egnaro315 said: Read the VN. If you're desperate like I was (after reading spoilers), you can finish the VN within a week without the all mighty ctrl button by waking up early in the morning and play for 12 hrs, repeating this process for a week. Indeed, this is the only way to do it ;D Just head straight into it and enjoy. It was a rather long VN, but it is still by far the best I've played through so far. I can't actually think of any route that I didn't at least get some enjoyment, even the weakest route (Komari's) was enjoyable. |
Part of Refrain Subs for Little Busters!: Refrain Recently Played/Read VNS (Most Recent to Oldest): - Da Capo - Grisaia no Kajitsu - ef - a fairy tale of the two - G-senjou no Maou - Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo & Sharin no Kuni, Yuukyuu no Shounenshoujo (Fan Disk) - Rewrite - Hoshizora no Memoria -Wish upon a shooting star- - Clannad - Little Busters EX! |
Feb 28, 2013 10:05 PM
#42
dizzyworld2 said: ] Just like how everyone said, I'd suggest ME/EX over the vanilla version. (and PE over ME if Doki/Team Fluffy decides to make a patch for it) Why? It doesn't make sense to play the original and then get the ME/EX version as the ME/EX version at the moment is exactly like the vanilla version. The only difference is that you'll run into a few extra untranslated lines and not be able to do the Muscle Sensation (which isn't a big deal as it's uploaded on youtube). And like Funya said, the EX routes are intended to be read after you've finished Refrain as they're locked until you finish Refrain (unless if you choose Yes on the Secrets of the World part). In contrary, I'd suggest vanilla version over waiting for ME/EX version if you want to play it now (unless if you can read moonwords). 1. Read the vanilla (normal) version until refrain ends while waiting for ME/EX. 2. When ME/EX released, just answer "Yes" at the initial "Do you know about the secret of the world" and play the extra routes (or the H-scenes if you're into it, but I don't recommend any KEY h-scenes as they are unfitting and horrible) Also, I would like to disagree to someone who said that LB is a well paced story. As much as I like KEY and VN in general, some of their writer has a horrible pacing. Example : Haruka's route. The anime sometimes have a very past pacing due to cramming things, but sometimes they also cram some bad/unnecessary events, so I'm not really complaing at that. The only problem for me now are budgets (animation quality) and their director (sound directing and directing for some certain events). Besides of that, the anime is doing fine/good. And about KEY-KyoAni, from what I've heard they aren't THAT loyal as people usually claim. It's just that people rarely play the VN before the anime airs and they're very good at execution that people rarely care about "precisely faithful" thingy. |
Mar 1, 2013 12:20 AM
#43
zeroyuki92 said: dizzyworld2 said: ] Just like how everyone said, I'd suggest ME/EX over the vanilla version. (and PE over ME if Doki/Team Fluffy decides to make a patch for it) Why? It doesn't make sense to play the original and then get the ME/EX version as the ME/EX version at the moment is exactly like the vanilla version. The only difference is that you'll run into a few extra untranslated lines and not be able to do the Muscle Sensation (which isn't a big deal as it's uploaded on youtube). And like Funya said, the EX routes are intended to be read after you've finished Refrain as they're locked until you finish Refrain (unless if you choose Yes on the Secrets of the World part). In contrary, I'd suggest vanilla version over waiting for ME/EX version if you want to play it now (unless if you can read moonwords). 1. Read the vanilla (normal) version until refrain ends while waiting for ME/EX. 2. When ME/EX released, just answer "Yes" at the initial "Do you know about the secret of the world" and play the extra routes (or the H-scenes if you're into it, but I don't recommend any KEY h-scenes as they are unfitting and horrible) Also, I would like to disagree to someone who said that LB is a well paced story. As much as I like KEY and VN in general, some of their writer has a horrible pacing. Example : Haruka's route. The anime sometimes have a very past pacing due to cramming things, but sometimes they also cram some bad/unnecessary events, so I'm not really complaing at that. The only problem for me now are budgets (animation quality) and their director (sound directing and directing for some certain events). Besides of that, the anime is doing fine/good. And about KEY-KyoAni, from what I've heard they aren't THAT loyal as people usually claim. It's just that people rarely play the VN before the anime airs and they're very good at execution that people rarely care about "precisely faithful" thingy. I'm surprised about your dislike of the pacing in the Haruka route, I actually enjoyed the route quite a bit because of it. I felt it was well paced because it shows her gradual decline bordering into insanity. Although I guess that can be seen as having poor pacing to some people since there are extremes too from one end of the spectrum to the other. |
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Mar 9, 2013 12:32 PM
#44
I've only played the vanilla version so far, but imo the VN shits on the anime. The side routes are entertaining but not amazing, but it all works out for Refrain. Refrain is even more amazing than everyone says it is. Agree with boomer above me that Haruka's route is actually one of the better routes (it's my personal favorite, though probably because Haruka is my favorite side heroine). |
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Mar 9, 2013 5:37 PM
#45
egnaro315 said: Read the VN. If you're desperate like I was (after reading spoilers), you can finish the VN within a week without the all mighty ctrl button by waking up early in the morning and play for 12 hrs, repeating this process for a week. I am slow reader and I'm not native-born speaker thus it took me nearly 3 weeks of intensive playing (~8-10 hours a day, skipping through read text on next playthroughs) to get 100% completition. Was worth it all the time though. Best routes are Haruka's and Mio's (almost poetic) I would say, those drow me to tears many times. Kurugaya route is also good though some things are left unexplained there (even with her true end but that's only few more sentences and one CG). Komari irritated me both in anime and VN but that's mainly because of her voice. Rin routes and Refrain were nicely done too. Kud had good ending but else it was meh. Now to rewatch anime which I thought horrible before, let's see if my opinion on it changes now. |
Mich666Mar 9, 2013 5:44 PM
Mar 10, 2013 12:06 AM
#46
shcboomer said: I'm surprised about your dislike of the pacing in the Haruka route, I actually enjoyed the route quite a bit because of it. I felt it was well paced because it shows her gradual decline bordering into insanity. Although I guess that can be seen as having poor pacing to some people since there are extremes too from one end of the spectrum to the other. Nope, I wasn't complaining on the pacing of insanity or the scissors or things like that, although I prefer the "less peak but more focus" approaching like in the anime Probably it was also caused by the lack of other characters in character routes. While one-on-one and focused interaction works really well in most of VN, it's sometimes felt too weird in Little Busters! |
Mar 10, 2013 4:09 PM
#47
zeroyuki92 said: shcboomer said: I'm surprised about your dislike of the pacing in the Haruka route, I actually enjoyed the route quite a bit because of it. I felt it was well paced because it shows her gradual decline bordering into insanity. Although I guess that can be seen as having poor pacing to some people since there are extremes too from one end of the spectrum to the other. Nope, I wasn't complaining on the pacing of insanity or the scissors or things like that, although I prefer the "less peak but more focus" approaching like in the anime Probably it was also caused by the lack of other characters in character routes. While one-on-one and focused interaction works really well in most of VN, it's sometimes felt too weird in Little Busters! That's a fair concern I guess, not going to lie Haruka's route was super long. The slice of life stuff was a bit on the rough side too since no one else was around or the focus just wasn't there. It does make the route different in that sense too though considering the heavy focus of Haruka being alone and whatnot. |
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Mar 10, 2013 5:01 PM
#48
Ah,I guess it's the key difference. While Haruka anime (in her route) is (almost) always supported by every other LB members, Haruka VN is practically alone with only Riki supporting her at times. That resulting in a heavy contrast with Kanata. While we hardly have any focus to her in VN except when she interacts with Haruka, Kanata anime is the one who seems very lonely. |
Mar 10, 2013 5:41 PM
#49
zeroyuki92 said: Ah,I guess it's the key difference. While Haruka anime (in her route) is (almost) always supported by every other LB members, Haruka VN is practically alone with only Riki supporting her at times. That resulting in a heavy contrast with Kanata. While we hardly have any focus to her in VN except when she interacts with Haruka, Kanata anime is the one who seems very lonely. Yeah that was what I was getting at as well, it just makes you feel more for Futaki when you consider the anime and the way Haruka gets so much help from everyone. The heavy focus on just Haruka does make it a bit bumpy at times especially when you get to her romance portion. |
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