This, THIS right here is how Shounen should be done

Nidhoeggr said:
Why can't more people be so smart? The quality would improve greatly.

Nilvius said:
I'm guessing that the audience wanted quantity over quality.

Nidhoeggr said:


I mean, seasonal without filler. Can't really blame the series for being adapted by the idiots from A-1 who have SERIOUS problems with action shows lately.
Black Lagoon did it right. Even the staff behind Bleach and Fairy Tail are thinking about it and decided to pause it until there is enough material again. Why can't more people be so smart? The quality would improve greatly.

HurricaneSweet said:
A superior race would want both. And it's not impossible to get it.

[... ...] We don't want that.

Nilvius said:
Well, obviously I'd prefer the quality route, e.g. like what they're doing with Gintama but from what I can see, they're still going to keep at it simply because there is a demand for it. Look at Pokemon.

It can't be helped.

Juusan13 said:

At the same time, these abilities make the fights really creative, as every fight is won by using tactics and outsmarting the enemy, the Stand users have to come up with tricks and different strategies to overcome the enemy, who is also using different tricks and tactics, as Dio says in Stone Ocean "There is no such thing as a weak stand", since it depends on how the user fights,

Juusan13 said:

as Dio says in Stone Ocean "There is no such thing as a weak stand", since it depends on how the user fights,

Juusan13 said:

as Dio says in Stone Ocean

x5exotic said:
@Nidhoegger, first your idea of equivalency is off. JJBA isn't LotR and One Piece is NOTHING like ASOIAF.

JJBA hasn't inspired nearly as many as DBZ, not sure what's the book equivalent of Jojo but it isn't LotR.

OP is simple and straightforward and while Asoiaf is complex and isn't all black and white, and has a lot of hiatuses (easier to see the resemblance now). OP would be Harry Potter or the Hunger Games


Second, so your problem is that I'm downplaying the influence of it. I only said that while it is indeed inspirational, there are still newer series with bigger influence on BIGGER series. Like Hunter x Hunter. Maybe even One Piece and Naruto subsequently.

Third, hiatuses might have affected popularity and the momentum of it, as well as the art (which is redrawn) but it doesn't affect the quality. Also Togashi's longest run is 30 chapters (the latest batch) so he's always been lazy, you all make it out like it started recently when it was even bigger before.

4. We get it, you read the manga, but it doesn't matter.
We're talking about how this anime should be inspiring all newer shonen right now, and I'm saying it shouldn't :/





OP has the same faults as Jojo and even more, so no. Though since the story is much longer there's bound to be a segment of the story that is better. But there's not much of a diff.

WyattEarp said:
Jojo has extremely lazy writing. To create suspension of disbelief a work of fiction builds up a set of rules for it's universe. Jojo doesnt really set up any rules and the ones it does set up are often broken. Bleach is another example of breaking it's worlds logic. One piece is set in a really wacky over the top world, but the physics within that world stay consistent. Watching Jojo is like watching a kid play with his action figures, whatever they feel like making the characters do they do it. Some people probably find that appealing though. But yeah characters will just yell whatevers happening, objects will just appear to help the plot move forward, extreme coincidences happen all the time, and you get certain scenes that just drag on and on while the characters over describe stuff. Personally Jojo is the least enjoyable anime I've seen, but I'll finish it up because there are some good things about it.

sjack said:


Stands are a pretty consistent set of rules and abilities. Also, the reason why doesn't it bother to be consistent;y logical is because it doesn't want to be consistently logical. It's crazy dumb fun from beginning to end, and I find it infinitely more entertaining than any of the examples you gave.

WyattEarp said:


Well stands are a part of part 3 and on. Haven't got there yet and honestly I kind of have to force myself to get through this one. You're right it's crazy dumb fight after crazy dumb fight, there's no variety and it honestly gets really old fast for me. No substance no character depth, choppy as fuck animation, but the colour schemes are awesome.

sjack said:


Are you on Battle Tendency? Because Phantom Blood is widely considered to be the worst one (even though I enjoyed it). As for the choppy animation, yeah I agree, but it was made on a very low budget and it kind of makes it up for me with style. And if you come in with the expectations of substance and depth to this series, then you'll be continuously disappointed-this is guilty pleasure, not EVA.

WyattEarp said:


Yep I look for substance in any show I watch, over the top shows can still do that. TTGL, KLK, one piece, GTO, even gintama are able to pull that off. And yeah I'm on battle tendency ep 16, it's better then Phantom Blood but not by that much. It does have a cool style in terms of colour schemes, but I'm not a fan of the character designs, don't like the style of them, everybody is just ridiculously jacked there's no variety.