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| Wow the first episode that really got me. Very intriguing and mysterious as well as surprising since they were dead already. |
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| Pretty confortable to come here.. What a peaceful thread; no butthurt.. No troll.. Conversations are good too This is the best episode of series, i think. The settings are dark and creepy, but in the same time it's really fun. I laughed a lot at some parts. Anyway im just curious by their looking. Seems fuyubachi and Zebra is not from japan or somethin..? Those unique backpack from the start are caught in my eyes too. So i think there's possibility that they are already dead in the first place. crazyruffian said: 2. i think that ZEBRA and FUYUBACHI died after inhaling the smoke in the building. on one hand, KAMOME died even before that. when she called fuyubachi, he just ignored it. she was last seen at the bridge looking at them (there is no hint how she died, but im pretty sure that she committed suicide after that). take note that after the two men inhaled the smoke, the girl appeared and they saw one another (because they were all dead already). Nah i think there's possibilities too with this. First time i watched this, it was kind of irritating when fuyubachi tried to ignore her. Kinda weird and funny too when both fuyubachi and zebra wasn't going to be dead after inhealing CO2 in that portion. That's how i realized that they are dead :( In the forest, kamome also said that she didn't want to be left alone.. So it is pretty sure if she suicide herself because of that. |
We did this every day that summer. There wasn’t a day we missed.  "I love you, air conditioner." |
| Regarding the Happy Family Planning, I thought it was an indication to how those three became a family together. You see, logically you wouldn't be able to create a family (have children) if you use a condom. But if the condom breaks--if an accident happens--you could still get a child. I think that was foreshadowing. Zebra and Fuyubachi didn't want Komome and tried to prevent ''having her as child''/accomplice by running away (trying to prevent having a child by using a condom), but she still ended up following them and finding them in that house. Though the ad said ''super thin condoms'', I thought that was a nod to how shallow Zebra and Fuyubachi had planned to keep Komome away (they only ran, they never thought it through. Their plans were ''thin''). By accident, without Zebra and Fuyubachi's intention, she also inhaled the gass and died with them, giving her no other place to return to then to stay by their sides. The three of them became a family through an accident (i.e. condom breaks by accident, child is made and becomes part of the family/i.e. she inhales the gas by accident and dies, they accept her into their mismatched family). Then they became a happy family (''Happy Family Planning''), as seen in the end where they're smiling and having fun. In short, I thought the ad meant something like: even though you planned against a family, you could still become a family and be happy. |
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| Wow, this episode was darkly comic. Pleasant change from the norm. My favorite scene was the group chasing after Lil' Slugger so he can kill them while comic chase music plays in the background. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| What a dark comedy. But I love it. Starisametaphor said: Then they became a happy family (''Happy Family Planning''), as seen in the end where they're smiling and having fun. In short, I thought the ad meant something like: even though you planned against a family, you could still become a family and be happy. For me this is a message to people since most Japanese has divorce rate higher than other Asia country. Also, this episode made me remember Satoshi Kon's Tokyo Godfathers |
| Worst episode of all. If they were ghosts and didn't realize it, how did they enter the bath and book rooms there? Just lazy writing overall. I am starting to realize that for the sake of a good watching experience, Kon puts in a lot of contradictions, and personally, thats not to my liking. |
Astrith said: TheBaconAbyss said: What about the hotel staff women who kinda just stood there and watched them go down the stairs...dead too or just unaware of whats happening? They hotel staff women saw Lil' Slugger go down the stairs, but Kept their focus in that direction. When the trio followed him, they still were looking down the stairs, so I'm guessing that they couldn't see the ghosts. But then how did they enter the bath without realizing they were ghosts themselves? |
| Awesome episode. One of the few times I've gone back and rewatched an episode while freeze framing it along the way to look for hidden clues. |
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| The last scene was a certain, obvious indication of their death. but that scene when Zebra was able to see the guy after being hit by the train was questionable, i just thought the show was fucking up with the viewers, cause there's no way a human being could survive getting hit by a train. the possibility of them being already dead never occurred to me. that's also the reason behind the sense of "disconnection" to the rest of the world, the three of them never had a conversation with any other person at all. it all made perfect sense by the time you reach the end of the episode. What a brilliant episode, from concept to execution. |
| I was warned about Episode 8... and I am certainly surprised at its outcome. This made me laugh quite a few times even though I'm not sure I should have, and I've never seen an episode of any medium that is both heartwarming but also disturbing until now. I'm sure most theories here are correct at the fact they died when the building was torn down, and are living on as ghosts. However I noticed some interesting facts: 'FOX' or Kozuka, the fake shounen bat, was suicidal before he was arrested The real Shounen Bat can see ghosts. The Detective spreading his facts through radio last episode worked as rumors have spreaded successfully. This was quite the episode. If the animation wasn't choppy in some parts it would be a straight 10/10. |
| I have a interesting question for ya all.The shonen bat we see...is the dead one or the real one? I personally have no idea. XD |
| *meme* |
| Interesting episode, I initially thought I was on the wrong episode. |
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| Weirdly awesome episode, even though i'm not sure how it fits in the storyline. |
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WickedHeroine said: I agree, it took him a little bit to realise they weren't cornered and he didn't have the same presence the real shounen bat does, freaking out at being chased Really enjoyable episode. Since I love this kind of insanity, the black humor was amazingly funny. I don't know who comes up with this stuff, but they are brilliant. I wasn't even suspecting that twist in the plot, but I should've realized after the train suicide incident. Navaroas said: Ghosts were chasing Shounen Bat. Hah. Actually, I'm pretty sure that they were chasing Fox, their friend from the internet and the copycat. They just thought it was Shonen Bat because they didn't yet know they were dead and could see other ghosts. |
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| They were so casual about killing themselves lol but that ending, jeez this anime just keeps confusing the hell out of me. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
Despeaux said: wtf i just realized that , fucking genius episode lolhe looked down at the girls legs to see that there was no shadow... the last pill he sees in the parking lot, but he had already taken it at the beginning of the episode and the significance of zebra being gay as a connection to why he wanted to die, anyone? |
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| tHiS Is veRy RelAtaBle IndEeD |
| So when Kamome called Fuyubachi and Zebra from the bridge I think she wanted to tell them she thought of a way they could commit suicide together and when she saw they ignored her call she decided to do it alone and wait for them on the otherside. The 2nd time the phone rings when they're in the abandoned building is Kamome 'calling' them from the otherside and Fuyubachi and Zebra answer the call and can see her now that they're dead. And when Kamome says "You can't leave me behind like that" i think she means not dying with her and making her wait for them.. |
| Well, what i think is that the "Happy Family Planning" title in union with that condoms machine means that they could not have children even if they did not use condoms, not taking into account adoption (because the girl is too young, the tall one is gay and the old man cannot get a boner. Besides they are dead). But even if they could not make a family bounded by blood, they did make family bounded by a shared objective: to find death. The three of them were united thanks to the joy they had trying to die. And what i realized this chapter tries to communicate is that there is something that unites us all. Man or woman, white or brown or black, tall or short, hetero or bi or homo or pansexual, young or mature or old, etc. We are all bounded by death. And as so, they became a family full of joy. Thats what this episode tries to communicate, imo. |
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| absolutely genius episode took me a while to make me realize what is really happening |
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| interesting episode but i get the feeling imma need to rewatch it to understand every little thing that's going on (didn't notice that they didn't have shadows till i read it here, for instance). wonder if that was the real shounen bat (who's being haunted by ghosts from the past) or the imposter shounen bat that was murdered in the police station. really wish we could have found out their reasons for killing themselves though. Treefingers said: Happy Family Planning CONDOMS. You see, you can't expect a family if you keep wearing condoms...just like you can't expect to kill yourself if you're already dead. shit that's well analysed |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| *Kenshiro voice* Karera wa mou shinde iru |
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| One of the best if not the best episodes of this anime up until now. Sad, but beautiful at the same time. They died in the beginning, yet after their deaths they found joy and became a family. I must say they looked more alive when they were actually alive. |
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| This episode was very black. I laughed more than I should have. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Honestly, my favorite episode so far. I haven't noticed that they were dead the whole time until the very end, even though some things seemed off. I wonder if next episodes will be as good as this one |
| Damn this already became my favorite episode but after reading others explanation, the episode just got 10x even better. Might comeback to rewatch this episode very now and then |
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| This episode got kiiinda close to crossing the line on making suicide a laughing matter, to the point that I'd be hesitant to introduce this show to certain people who've been deeply affected by suicide. Although, it's just as likely anyone who's been suicidal/been deeply affected by a suicide would appreciate it precisely because it makes light of the hardest thing to make light of. Depends on the person. Ultimately, I think it still came off as genuine; it's hard to not love the makeshift-family-unit trope, it's what makes Tokyo Godfathers arguably my favorite of Kon's work. |
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| But what is the connection between that mascot character and the dead?:o They were all wearing backpacks made of it. It seems to be at the epicenter of all of this. Looked like it was the one that knocked out the designer in that one interrogation scene as well. hmmmmmmmmmmm |
| That's what I call beauty. |
| Holy shit i didn't relized it makes sense because they can see that man who jumped in front of the train and they had no shadows too. |
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| Bruh wtf Great episode. Reminds me of a similar arx of welcome to the NHK. But in that show there were some normal people compared to this. |
| A group of people who want to commit suicide. People of all ages and genders. A photo taken by that girl may suggest that a group of three are actually dead and became ghosts. Now they are wandering around the world. It is a bit like the kind of purgatory, they would like to escape. |
| This might've looked like an unrelated filler episode at first but it was actually a really creative way of confirming the existence of the supernatural in the show. I initially thought that the happy music that played as they tried to kill themselves was screwed up but that's dark humor for you~ They even showed the impostor's ghost having fun from beyond the grave. This was really well done and I liked the trio, wishing that they'd somehow reconsider their actions and live happily together for each other's sake and they're technically doing that but they're already dead ever since the first fourth of the episode all along... I saw the inconsistencies and only thought about them being ghosts when they photobombed those girls but I didn't expect them to achieve their goal so early on. No wonder that all those pills the two swallowed looked like it didn't have an effect on them. |
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