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Forough said: Great episode. portraying Vincent's fears of what might happen and how he wishes things to be. That sir had explained me the reason behind this ep..Not cxonfused now |
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| Interesting episode. I wonder if Swan was also the one who got into Pino's dream. |
waterfall said: Because the last episode totally wasn't weird enough. Lol, my thoughts exactly. |
BalloonTwister said: Interesting episode. I wonder if Swan was also the one who got into Pino's dream. I want to say that was a different Proxy. The Proxy that was in Pino's dream didn't even want to meet Vincent but this episode's Proxy confronted him. Still...my mind hurts from this episode, I actually understood Pino's dream episode more than this one and both involved Proxies invading the mind but Pino's was more straightforward. |
| Better than Inception movie. Same mindfuck as Fight Club. |
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| This was damn confusing and hard to follow. But I suppose that's how this show is. |
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| holy shit what just happened here. LOL It was like another episode 14 with the doppelgangers. It was either another Proxy attack or it is Vincent's sub consciousness that is a borderline to his human side and his proxy. Maybe it is neither LMAO Good lord ....... :| I've been brutally mind raped D: |
| Ah, a dream. Good episode none the less. |
| Man all these proxies and their mindraping @_@ and then the dissociative personality thing. My poor brain cannot handle all this psychological stuff. Must re-watch to understand. |
| I didn't find this all that confusing. At least, relatively speaking. The whole series has been rife with this sort of very abstract clue dropping. It was pretty cool to see Vincent's ideal world, which was the sort of place in which you'd expect to hear the phrase 'happily ever after'. As usual though, more questions are presented than answered... |
| Don't know if it was a dream or not, but until now the only reason why I keep watching it's Re-l and Pino, I am not thinking it is so amazing as people say... |
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| A bit confusing but good. |
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| Damn that was good. I'm kind of glad it was just a dream. |
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| Brilliant. Vincent's fears and dreams are vividly portrayed. I wonder what his past is like to be so incredibly hidden, even in his subconcious. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Didn't like this episode, getting annoyed with it, there is only 3 episodes left now to tie everything up and this episode didn't show us any plot. It was ok, but i dont really think it was very necessary. |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| Claiming this episode to be 'confusing' is more disturbing than the episode itself. Almost immediately it was hinting at proxy-attack. 10 minutes in I was 100% sure. At the end, it bloody says so. What is there to be confused about? EDIT : the episode was also pretty much a filler. If it was concealed better that it was a proxy-attack and not giving it away immediately, it would have been a great filler. As it was however, it was mediocre. It gave some insight into Vincent and was mildly interesting to see how he would win the fight. |
| His fantasy was kind of funny . . . I feel like this is going to end with everyone dying though. |
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| er ma gerd |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
aezakmi2494 said: Do you remember what Hoody say to Re-l that proxies can also infiltrate into human minds.... i think that is what vincent doing.... BTW. this episode is another MINDFUCKER! I'm more convinced that Swan is up to something.... >:3 |
| "Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| wow total mindfuck |
| Isn't this technically a filler episode since it was all a dream? |
| The last few episodes have been very confusing, at first they seem like they are skipping time, but then its like a projection of someone else's thoughts. Very confused about whats going on. |
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| I'm forcing myself through this series. |
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SonicTheSaiyan said: potatoshortage said: SonicTheSaiyan said: m1xtuRe said: what a scary disorder this ep refers to :O but interesting~ .... whats the disorder called, im still mind fucked after reading this thread. Split personality/schizophrenia so vince and that girl are one of the same? i still dont get it :/ mind explaining tht part to me :>? Re-l created another personality in her mind due to her guilt of betraying Vincent. Those two personalities exist within the mind of Rei. As Susan explained, Vincent as an entity doesn't exist in Re-L. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| IT WAS ALL A DREAM. so relieving to see them back on the rabbit. |
| I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
| *sigh* What was the point in this? |
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| Filler, but it was OK. |
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| That was a bit confusing,but in the end it was all a dream. |
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| it was hard to get back into the mood after the previous episode. comparing to ep19, this shaping of the content (character and plot/story development) won my heart. |
| I'm done questioning this anime. I'm just going to finish up the series and judge it then. These episodes are all great and all but they are really just messing with my head |
| What is real, what is fiction. Just a dream! This anime really messes with your head. |
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| The hell, don't fall asleep pls Vincent!She might betray you! Perfect episode made my mind very active! |
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| What is even anymore... Jesus with this anime... So good but so confusing o_O |
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| This was an ok episode, as Vincent has been a pretty two-dimensional MC and this gave a glimpse into his fears and desires. But I also felt this episode was just trying to be confusing and I was pretty annoyed by the end. It was obvious it was a dream from the get go(we've seen Proxys do this many times by now) and it just seemed to be beating a dead horse. |
| My brain... I don't know what's real anymore |
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| It just gets better and better. |
| More filler :( |
| Just rewatched EP awhile ago and figured out I'll be looking in forums section of MAL if anyone was mindfucked in this episode, oh what should I expect :p No, this isn't a pretentious episode nor a confusing one. Anyone that doesn't have a background information in regards to Descartes' Meditation (part 1-3 is probably sufficient), and a basic understanding in the phenomenology of the body will really get mind-fucked as hell. I'm just concerned what Vincent meant by "I think, therefore you are." This cannot translate into cogito ergo sum so I can't follow up what the writer wants us to think of this particular (deviating) statement. Or perhaps, this is a part-mistake on the subs. |
HaeduansJul 4, 2015 11:29 AM
UnbornMVs said: I'm forcing myself through this series. No, don't ever, not with this series. You can force yourself on stuffs such as gore and edge, but never with philosophy. Because you know, philosophizing comes natural in every human beings, and so is contemplation. Don't force, it will live inside you if you let it to. :D |
| I thought that was very well-executed, probably one of the most memorable and psychological episodes of anime I have witnessed. This series has been like that all the way through, very well-done. |
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| Jeez, what a mindfunked episode. I was just about to rage when I thought it was a fast forward to the future without explaining how they got to the dome and why Rel bretrayed Vince. So glad it was a dream. |
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| I. LOVED. THIS. I adore how all this is portrayed in a cartoon. I'm not saying I get the whole point, but these episodes are absolutely amazing. For now, episode 15 aside, this anime could well be a masterpiece for me. This is the first time I feel this way. I hope something will be explained about that TV show episode (I'll look up for someone's explanation eventually) because I may have just found a marvel. Wait and see. Uncontestably 5/5. |
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