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Dec 27, 2012 8:06 AM
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I remember this Ep; I was pitying his wife the entire time....
Dec 28, 2012 1:57 AM

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-poor kyoko </3 She doesn't even know what's going on :(

-Akira's mother is cold... :/
Feb 4, 2013 10:14 AM

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Damn, its been awhile since i've seen an above 90 percent 5/5 rating. Not since the 12th episode of Bakemonogatari and a few episodes of Natsume
Feb 17, 2013 6:39 PM

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O_O I am extremely disturbed. I feel sick.
Feb 26, 2013 4:36 AM

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That ending...It was a bit disturbing. But atleast he's doing something.

Mar 21, 2013 2:15 AM
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What the fuck >_> What the fuck? I literally cried with the torture scene, poor Kyoko, she wasn't guilty of anything T_T How could Toshio do that to his WIFE? I know the situation is critical, but still. Either way, the episode was great, easily a 5/5, one of the most unique and disturbing episodes I've ever watched.
Jay_Ox said:
Wow, the doc is just as bad as the Shiki.
This. The main problem was WHO he used as test subject. His. Damn. Wife. She didn't deserve it, she wasn't mean.
May 5, 2013 9:54 PM

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Wow.. he practically used his wife as an experiment.. how convenient for him..
Jun 18, 2013 3:48 AM

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Kyoko hated this episode.
Jun 26, 2013 4:54 AM

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Oh..my..god!!! This episode...
Jun 28, 2013 12:56 PM

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... omg... I think I would die if I was forced to watch the video if this is reality...
Jun 30, 2013 3:18 AM

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kyouko dislikes this episode
Jul 12, 2013 4:09 PM
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Hoppy said:
The experimentation was extremely painful to watch, I also think that he should listened to Kyoko prior to his gruesome experimentation, he could have gotten some information like maybe that she wasn't completely dead. Monk comes in shocked senseless at the most likely pulverized Kyoko with blood everywhere, he's like "Toshio has gone mad". He may also have found a way to destroy them but it won't be pleasant to see if that's the case.

That was difficult to watch...poor Kyoko. Injecting things I can understand not being hard to do, but destroying the heart like that? No sane person could do it...makes me feel nauseous. And noooo Kaori and Akira :( gotta say though, that's an extremely smart plan to get them to invite the shiki to their home.
Jul 29, 2013 11:17 AM

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Best doctor everrrrr
Seriously this was a sick ep.Sacrificing your own wife for revealing truth when it could have been done in other ways.
Aug 24, 2013 1:33 PM
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Great Episode!!!
Aug 27, 2013 11:10 AM

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So disturbing to watch but bloody gruesome !!
The doctor seems like House to me!!
I love it though
Sep 12, 2013 3:49 PM

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Best episode so far, 5/5
Oct 17, 2013 3:10 AM

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Man even on a rewatch this episode is extremely unsettling and heartwrenching. I could feel tears swelling up when Toshio got the stake ready for Kyoko. He's finally found a way to fight back.
Nov 9, 2013 10:45 AM

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The last scene .. wow, i wonder how hard was it for him to do that to HIS OWN WIFE
4/5
Dec 4, 2013 12:38 AM

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I know she's a vampire now but dam :( Poor fella is losing his mind.
Dec 4, 2013 10:07 AM

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Poor Kyouko.. :( She probably didn't even why that was happening. :/
Dec 10, 2013 2:24 PM

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That was the creepiest fucking shit ever.
Feb 27, 2014 2:02 AM

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Is this episode referencing Unit 731? A place where they actually did these kinds of experiments during WW2 in Japan.
Mar 8, 2014 12:22 PM

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Hannah_Ana said:
It is confirmed...Dr. Ozaki did NOT love his wife!!! LOL!!
Kyoko actually got off easy in the anime, the good Dr. damn near mangled her in the manga.


What chapter was that can someone tell me
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Mar 17, 2014 6:57 PM

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OH MY GEE POP, THE DOCTOR COMPLETELY LOST IT!!!
Seriously, he have turned completely mad, he look like those crazy genius in horror story xD
Man, I was waiting so much for those crazy experiment, totally worth it :P
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Mar 19, 2014 11:57 AM

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*jaw still missing*

Toshio, take a bow sir.
Its not something you do to your wife everyday!
I hope Megumi and Masao fight themselves to their death, it would be a masterstroke to get rid of the two most annoying characters.
Toshio aka crazy doctor has shot himself up to become one of my all time favourite characters.
5/5
Kagami_Hiiragi said:
Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

Mar 19, 2014 12:27 PM

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skyzblue said:
*jaw still missing*

Toshio, take a bow sir.
Its not something you do to your wife everyday!
I hope Megumi and Masao fight themselves to their death, it would be a masterstroke to get rid of the two most annoying characters.
Toshio aka crazy doctor has shot himself up to become one of my all time favourite characters.
5/5


??????? Why???????? His a mad man
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Mar 20, 2014 12:53 AM

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Animefreak17a said:
skyzblue said:
*jaw still missing*

Toshio, take a bow sir.
Its not something you do to your wife everyday!
I hope Megumi and Masao fight themselves to their death, it would be a masterstroke to get rid of the two most annoying characters.
Toshio aka crazy doctor has shot himself up to become one of my all time favourite characters.
5/5


??????? Why???????? His a mad man

He's prepared to do anything, and I mean freaking anything, to stop these deaths. That's passion and determination for you. Yes, it was horrific with what he did to his wife, but it took god knows how much mental strength to do such a thing.
How much his character has changed completely within these episodes is an example of brilliant character development.
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

Mar 20, 2014 7:24 AM

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skyzblue said:
Animefreak17a said:
skyzblue said:
*jaw still missing*

Toshio, take a bow sir.
Its not something you do to your wife everyday!
I hope Megumi and Masao fight themselves to their death, it would be a masterstroke to get rid of the two most annoying characters.
Toshio aka crazy doctor has shot himself up to become one of my all time favourite characters.
5/5


??????? Why???????? His a mad man

He's prepared to do anything, and I mean freaking anything, to stop these deaths. That's passion and determination for you. Yes, it was horrific with what he did to his wife, but it took god knows how much mental strength to do such a thing.
How much his character has changed completely within these episodes is an example of brilliant character development.


Yep kill to stop deaths......very genocide of him, he never loved his wife to begin with he even questioned him self if he did love her.......hell he didn't give her attention when she was human so of course it was easy for him to do it to her, the only reason they got together was a marriage meeting then they dated and she took an interest in him because he was a doctor and she lived in the city selling antiques but closed it became of his mother bothering her about trying to be a good wife and so she did but again he didn't give her the time of day and the reason he went along with it was because of his mother pressuring him all the time about getting married,

In other words it was easy for him to do it and it was the waiting that got to him and he didn't have a problem doing what he did to his wife,

Now if he was crying or even said sorry while doing it or explained what and why he was doing it to her then maybe I'd of sympathized with him but no he kept a straight face. If you ask me he's character development was forced on him.

Il be honest I down right hate him
geekfreak17aMar 20, 2014 8:00 AM
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Mar 20, 2014 2:13 PM

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Animefreak17a said:
Il be honest I down right hate him

There, all you needed was to say this (instead of the long ass spoilerific paragraph).
Well, to each his own.
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

Mar 20, 2014 2:20 PM

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skyzblue said:
Animefreak17a said:
Il be honest I down right hate him

There, all you needed was to say this (instead of the long ass paragraph).
Well, to each his own.


At least your not ramming it down my throat like so many as done

Oh your supporting the shiki what are you a idiot
You w as glad the monk and girls escaped ...............idiot

There's loads of people who didn't like what the humans did and gets spammed by other and visa versa but I'm glad there's people like you who go.....each to there own......thank you :)
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Jun 11, 2014 11:47 AM

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Last scenes were very disturbing! Oi.. Mad doctor Toshio! >_<
Jul 2, 2014 9:13 PM

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Wow watching that was brutal. I cant believe he was able to kill his wife, even if she had changed. I mean damn she was calling out his name.
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Aug 22, 2014 4:55 PM
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Wow... Shit just got real
Sep 1, 2014 5:43 PM

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I just watched this episode for the first time and was wondering...did Toshio even love his wife? They didn't seem all that close. Or am I just missing something?
Sep 4, 2014 10:54 PM

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bigfist said:
and thats the diffrence between ozaki and natsuno
natsuno couldn't kill his friend who he spent less than 3 months with him and died for it
while ozaki killed his wife who he spent more time with her without thinking twice
Ikr? it probably must have been hard on him killing his wife and experiment on her but I agree it's for the better good and it's not like she was human anymore.Anyway, if she wasn't restrained seeing as how she just awakened she would have sucked him dry being consumed by her blood lust and all... :/
I hope the monk won't jump in there trying to contemplate the morals of killing another species (that just looks human-like) and try to feed him all that crap for killing kyoku when the vamps are trying to annihilate all the ppl in his village including him.
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Oct 24, 2014 2:57 PM

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dinesj21 said:
I just watched this episode for the first time and was wondering...did Toshio even love his wife? They didn't seem all that close. Or am I just missing something?
I feel that too. I can't prove anything, but I think Toshio just got married to a girl he was friends with to shut his mom up. His mom most likely constantly pressured him to get married so that he can continue the bloodline or whatever.
Nevertheless, this isn't to say that this lack of 'romantic love' justifies his experiment on Kyoko. It's not that I think because he didn't love her that it was 'alright' for him to do it. Although the experimentation was brutal, it was the right course of action. After all, in such a small town, Toshio would be able to know what's important about shiki biology.

Damn, Toshio's becoming my favorite character. I respect him for doing that. I also respect him for being smart, and taking advantage of his 'dead' wife.

My favorite part of the episode was when Megumi beat Masao up. As much as I hate Megumi, that scene felt so good. Props to her.
Oct 25, 2014 3:13 PM
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what a fucked up person, if he were truly good, he'd cremate his wife and catch one of the pigs who have alreaady killed people and run his "tests" on them
Nov 5, 2014 10:42 PM

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jesus fucking christ, that's what i call research. that's what i call a surgeon.
Nov 10, 2014 8:07 AM

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So, rather than any of the others, he chose to experiment on his wife, who hadn't actually done anything and, as he found, was not exactly dead, clearly retained her memories and was begging him to stop. What a nice person.
Dec 11, 2014 3:00 PM
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Holy shit that was really hard to watch, but it was... for lack of a better word... awesome nonetheless... I felt really bad for his wife .__.
I feel like Ozaki is going to go insane throughout the rest of the series... He's the best character of the show without a doubt.
5/5
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Dec 26, 2014 9:53 AM

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amazing amazing amazing.
Jan 3, 2015 1:22 AM

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Kyoko starts to call his name so the doctor puts tape over her mouth. "Now I'm going to try injecting pesticide." OMG.

The doctor is a true scientist.
Jan 15, 2015 12:24 PM

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Wow Toshio is a heartless son of a bitch!
"The subject regains conciousness"
Seriously she's your wife dammit even if you don't like her you shouldn't run tests on her! I felt very sorry for her.
Feb 6, 2015 7:19 AM

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He used his own wife for experiment. I'm not sure if I had to feel bad. The doctor already on his own limit, but still that was heartless to do.
Feb 15, 2015 4:41 AM

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poor kyoko Q.Q
Mar 11, 2015 8:10 PM

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To understand the body of the shiki he experimented on the body of his own wife, damn such a great episode, defiantly my favorite one so far from the show.
    
   
Jun 2, 2015 6:38 PM

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The experimenting on Kyouko was brutal. Ozaki's sanity is slipping away. It was bad enough as a doctor he had to give in to the superstition of the Risen being the reason for the increased morality in the village. This is my favourite episode so far since it's what I was expecting most out of the show.
Jul 24, 2015 12:04 PM

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HOLY FUCK. HOLY FUCK. HOLY FUCK. Oh man... I would've said, "Well, it's just an ordinary horror torture scene." But that was his friggin WIFE, man. He didn't even bother to comfort her or explain to her what was going on; he didn't even say a word to her, did he? He just experimented with her and killed her, ignoring her whimpering and screaming and crying and that was his friggin WIFE, man. yeezus...

I completely understand his perspective, why he did it; I'd even say it was necessary. But my goodness is it terrible... I can't tell if Toshio earned respect or fear out of this.

That + insight on the world of the Shiki + Megumi bitchslapping Murao makes this easily the best episode of the series. I doubt another episode could top this.
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Aug 15, 2015 9:17 PM

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Did he really need to stick her with pesticides? Didn't even spare any last words for his wife lol. What an episode.
Sep 1, 2015 10:56 AM

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So this is what this show is aiming for... Showing how disgusting one can be when driven to the extreme. I used to think Ozaki was a really brave and cool person now I am confused for even thinking that. He didn't have to go that far. He checked her to an extent which wasn't even necessary. He went mad with his curiosity. Now I think he's going to turn into an evil guy, after-all...

But then again, humans perform all kinds of experiments on animals first. And they don't hesitate to that. Keeping in mind, someone has to do the dirty work, but it is difficult keeping your senses while doing that dirty work.

Episodes like these make me wonder who is at wrong, humans or shiki. Or maybe both.

This is probably going to turn into a masterpiece, and I am so watching it.

EDIT - I just the manga version of it, and while just as graphic, it didn't seem as brutal. Ozaki's actions were more explained, instead of the cruelty he did in the anime ver. It still felt wrong, but you know, it felt like he was really trying to find a cure there instead of what seemed in the anime. Still brutal though, that much is true.
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