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Mar 4, 2015 1:58 PM

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Ive made better friends online than i have in person so of course i do
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KawaiiWeeabz said:
What is "IRL friendship" ? (◡‿◡✿)
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Mar 4, 2015 2:01 PM

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Friendship is friendship.
There is no online one & Irl one.
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traed said:
Ive made better friends online than i have in person so of course i do
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I value real life friendship higher than online, though that doesn't mean I value an online friendship as something worthless. I've met some great people online that I considered good and close friends.

And by online friendship I don't mean simply adding their name to your friends list or occasionally saying hi to them. But someone you spend time with (back when I used to play online games a lot), have good, meaningful conversations with and share things with.
Mar 4, 2015 2:05 PM

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good irl friend> good online friend > irl acquaintance > online acquaintance
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they're of the same importance to me. Real life interaction makes little difference in a friendship to me

however I don't consider people friends frivolously. I use that term very strictly
Mar 4, 2015 2:20 PM

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I value my real friends more. There are some people that i met here who i share a pretty good bond with though.
Mar 4, 2015 2:29 PM

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I do
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How can one not value a friendship online? They're a living breathing person just like you are.
Mar 4, 2015 2:38 PM
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Yes.
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LAOG said:
KawaiiWeeabz said:
What is "IRL friendship" ? (◡‿◡✿)
You're already my nigga because you're a fellow (✿◠‿◠) user.


Aww, nice (✿◕ヮ◕)
Mar 4, 2015 2:40 PM

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They're on pretty equal status for me. I have much closer links to friend in real life, but that doesn't mean I don't have pretty good friendships with people online. Most of my online friends I'd consider pretty close, I would have had to spend quite a lot of time with over the years. Probably, 6 years or more to qualify them on an equal status as my irl friends.
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because u kids are fgts that have never spilled blood together in a pvp game

mmorpg online friends are totally different than anything else so unless you've played and bonded for awhile you're not entitled to an opinion


girlfriend > mmorpg online friend > irl friend > irl bad friend > online non-mmorpg friends
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incisorr said:
because u kids are fgts that have never spilled blood together in a pvp game

mmorpg online friends are totally different than anything else so unless you've played and bonded for awhile you're not entitled to an opinion


Yea i met some cool ppl when i played this mmo. I haven't played it in a while though...i miss them...
Mar 4, 2015 4:54 PM

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Nah.
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They're just as real to me yeah.
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Absolutely not. A friend online can never even begin to compare to a friend IRL, and I'm not going to pretend like they can.

If you think otherwise, you need better friends, or you need to stop thinking so desperately.
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I considered them as IRL friends but it's up to the other party how they will label me, but I want to give dignity towards them and treat them as the same because they are still humans.
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Mar 4, 2015 5:23 PM

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The close bonds that I form with people online are sometimes even stronger than those IRL. IRL friends take physical maintenance, but online friends I can easily talk to and just meet up with a couple of times a year. But I guess, online friends that you've met IRL aren't really online anymore... just long distance. >.> So maybe I just prefer long distance friendships.
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Why I prefer real life friends: Just having their "presence" around is enough. With people you click with, there is no need for forced conversations. We can laugh at anything together. Or hang out and go places together. They are tangible and you can read their body language.

Why I prefer online friends: that mental connection. interesting conversations with different people (sometimes people you probably would never dream of talking to in real life because you're too "different" from one another and probably don't hang out in the same place.

I prefer real life friends since we are actually more likely to help each other with real world problems but I have to admit that I'm more mentally/emotionally attached to my online friends sometimes. I'm not sure if admitting that makes me sad or not.
Mar 4, 2015 7:34 PM

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It depends.
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Korrvo said:
Absolutely not. A friend online can never even begin to compare to a friend IRL, and I'm not going to pretend like they can.

If you think otherwise, you need better friends, or you need to stop thinking so desperately.


I disagree

I have friends that I met both IRL and online.

I value both of them. I even met the online friends IRL, and plan on having more get together with them in the future. Some people online are just people. They're just playing games, or hanging out on like-minded sites that you are. It's exactly the same as if you walk into the bar. You're meeting people. Just using a different median.

"Desperation" happens when you desperately seek out friendships rather then just letting it happen. Which can apply to online and IRL equally. Online is just scarier because of the anonymous factor in the face area. Other then that, it's pretty much the same. A person can lie to you just as well IRL, as they can online.
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I did when I was like thirteen and that didn't end so well. So now and days I don't care for online friendships and I am shocked at how quickly people will call you a bestie after a few days of talking and not even knowing your real name.
Mar 4, 2015 7:39 PM

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Yes, I generally do. I find it extremely difficult to make good friends online anyway; there's barely anyone that I've met online who I would consider a friend rather than a friendly acquaintance.
Mar 4, 2015 7:49 PM

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Yes, but its hard to find a good friend in the internet
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I value my internet friends more, my real life friends are nonexistent unless you consider me myself and I and my imaginary friends.

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cause said:
I disagree

I have friends that I met both IRL and online.

I value both of them. I even met the online friends IRL, and plan on having more get together with them in the future. Some people online are just people. They're just playing games, or hanging out on like-minded sites that you are. It's exactly the same as if you walk into the bar. You're meeting people. Just using a different median.

"Desperation" happens when you desperately seek out friendships rather then just letting it happen. Which can apply to online and IRL equally. Online is just scarier because of the anonymous factor in the face area. Other then that, it's pretty much the same. A person can lie to you just as well IRL, as they can online.
Well, once you meet them IRL, it's not quite the same as a solely internet relationship, and that's what I was referring to.

I'm aware that the only difference is the median, but the median alone is where my problem lies. "Desperation" probably isn't a good way of putting it, I was in a bad mood when I typed that.

I'll admit I'm heavily biased. Personally speaking, I've tried to be good friends with many people online multiple times, and I regret every single second of it.

Inability to read someone, inability to understand them, inability to know who you're truly even talking to, inability to spend some legitimate time with them, inability to truly be yourself around them, inability to comfort and be there for them, etc etc.

There are too many limitations on the internet and every single one has bitten me in the ass multiple times, as well as the people I've attempted to be friends with. It's just such a shallow experience and I've only grown to despise the internet because of it, and I can't wait to rid myself of internet-only socialization the moment I get the chance.

So yeah, a lil biased. Mb for the rash wording in my last post.
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cause said:

I disagree

I have friends that I met both IRL and online.

I value both of them. I even met the online friends IRL, and plan on having more get together with them in the future. Some people online are just people. They're just playing games, or hanging out on like-minded sites that you are. It's exactly the same as if you walk into the bar. You're meeting people. Just using a different median.

"Desperation" happens when you desperately seek out friendships rather then just letting it happen. Which can apply to online and IRL equally. Online is just scarier because of the anonymous factor in the face area. Other then that, it's pretty much the same. A person can lie to you just as well IRL, as they can online.


That person has no idea how to handle relationships, not even worth arguing with over it.
Mar 4, 2015 7:52 PM

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Example A^
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Korrvo said:
Example A^


The issues you cited translate into "IRL" relationships as well.

People often hide their true selves or try to be something they're not. Only once you spent enough time with them do their true colors finally show.

Maybe the problem doesn't lay solely in the medium, but in the person who keeps having the bad experiences.
Mar 4, 2015 8:06 PM

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The medium is consistent for all of my social issues. This simply doesn't happen IRL for me.

When I'm talking to someone IRL, I can understand them way better. I can see the expression on their face, I can hear the tone in their voice, I can see what they are talking about first hand. I can have a better understanding of the kind of person they are, and I can act accordingly.

They can also better see who I am and how I act as well. The way I act on the internet and the diction I use in my writing simply does not match their IRL equivalent for me. My personality and tone of voice are way different.

Yea, the problems are there for IRL as well, but they are so minor by comparison than it's not anywhere near as significant as an issue. But with the internet, there's so many more assumptions that have to come into play that it causes so many inevitable issues.

Is that my fault? Am I using the internet wrong? Possibly. I won't deny for a second that I've fucked up a lot, cause I KNOW I've fucked up a lot, but regardless, this would have never happened if this wasn't on the internet.

And understanding is just one issue out of many. The internet is such a shallow experience for so many more reasons than just understanding that I hesitate to refer to anyone online as "friend" anyway, cause I certainly can't act like one on here, nor can I expect anyone else to do the same.
KorrvoMar 4, 2015 8:11 PM
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no since the person on the other end would not value the friendship
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This is of course implying OP has friends IRL, as I think he would know the answer if he did.
Mar 4, 2015 8:26 PM

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The internet has been shallow for you.

It doesn't mean it has been shallow for everyone then.

The "expressions and tones" you hear and see can be lies as well. It's all subjective to your personal qualms.
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Korrvo said:
The medium is consistent for all of my social issues. This simply doesn't happen IRL for me.

When I'm talking to someone IRL, I can understand them way better. I can see the expression on their face, I can hear the tone in their voice, I can see what they are talking about first hand. I can have a better understanding of the kind of person they are, and I can act accordingly.

They can also better see who I am and how I act as well. The way I act on the internet and the diction I use in my writing simply does not match their IRL equivalent for me. My personality and tone of voice are way different.

Yea, the problems are there for IRL as well, but they are so minor by comparison than it's not anywhere near as significant as an issue. But with the internet, there's so many more assumptions that have to come into play that it causes so many inevitable issues.

Is that my fault? Am I using the internet wrong? Possibly. I won't deny for a second that I've fucked up a lot, cause I KNOW I've fucked up a lot, but regardless, this would have never happened if this wasn't on the internet.

And understanding is just one issue out of many. The internet is such a shallow experience for so many more reasons than just understanding that I hesitate to refer to anyone online as "friend" anyway, cause I certainly can't act like one on here, nor can I expect anyone else to do the same.


The internet highlighting weaknesses within the person, a plausible explanation.

However the weaknesses still remain and will most likely be evident in all relationships. Hopefully you've learned your lesson by now if that is the case.

Text base communication is shallow and it takes extra effort to be meaningful. Also, there are different types of people in the world and some may be better able to connect over such means that others. One person can't speak for everyone.

While I've changed how I deal with people over the internet(to great success) and in the end I can't honestly say I take online friendships quite as seriously as ones with people "IRL" I still feel there are meaningful connections to be made over the internet. They just have to be approached differently.

To this day there only remains one whom I regret my time with.
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cause said:
The internet has been shallow for you.

It doesn't mean it has been shallow for everyone then.

The "expressions and tones" you hear and see can be lies as well. It's all subjective to your personal qualms.
I'm aware. That's why I said I was heavily biased.

_Myst said:
The internet highlighting weaknesses within the person, a plausible explanation.

However the weaknesses still remain and will most likely be evident in all relationships. Hopefully you've learned your lesson by now if that is the case.

Text base communication is shallow and it takes extra effort to be meaningful. Also, there are different types of people in the world and some may be better able to connect over such means that others. One person can't speak for everyone.

While I've changed how I deal with people over the internet(to great success) and in the end I can't honestly say I take online friendships quite as seriously as ones with people "IRL" I still feel there are meaningful connections to be made over the internet. They just have to be approached differently.

To this day there only remains one whom I regret my time with.
The only thing the internet can highlight is how shitty of a medium it is for communication. Good job at keeping the salt buckets hidden. /s

Yea, there's potential there, but it's not worth the bother. I'm not so desperate that I'd be willing to take something so shallow so seriously. If I'm gonna work for something, I'm gonna go for the stuff that's actually worth a damn.

The only thing internet-exclusive social media is good at is passing the time. Take it any more seriously than that and you're insulting yourself.
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Mar 4, 2015 8:48 PM

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but there's an easy way around it!

you just have to meet them in person because of convenience!
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Zetrin said:
but there's an easy way around it!

you just have to meet them in person because of convenience!
Can you taxi us
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cause said:
The internet has been shallow for you.

It doesn't mean it has been shallow for everyone then.

The "expressions and tones" you hear and see can be lies as well. It's all subjective to your personal qualms.
I'm aware. That's why I said I was heavily biased.

_Myst said:
The internet highlighting weaknesses within the person, a plausible explanation.

However the weaknesses still remain and will most likely be evident in all relationships. Hopefully you've learned your lesson by now if that is the case.

Text base communication is shallow and it takes extra effort to be meaningful. Also, there are different types of people in the world and some may be better able to connect over such means that others. One person can't speak for everyone.

While I've changed how I deal with people over the internet(to great success) and in the end I can't honestly say I take online friendships quite as seriously as ones with people "IRL" I still feel there are meaningful connections to be made over the internet. They just have to be approached differently.

To this day there only remains one whom I regret my time with.
The only thing the internet can highlight is how shitty of a medium it is for communication. Good job at keeping the salt buckets hidden. /s

Yea, there's potential there, but it's not worth the bother. I'm not so desperate that I'd be willing to take something so shallow so seriously. If I'm gonna work for something, I'm gonna go for the stuff that's actually worth a damn.

The only thing internet-exclusive social media is good at is passing the time. Take it any more seriously than that and you're insulting yourself.


Need to take a good long look at yourself before you criticize anyone.

A little birdy pointed out the real salt buckets. XD

(This is too much fun)
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I, too, feel better when others can relate with my own shittiness. You better appreciate that little birdy.

Yea, I'm salty, but it has nothing to do with what's happened prior to this. That would imply I thought that significantly of someone I don't give give a shit about.

I'm salty cause some fuck has the audacity to try and pick a fight with me for some stupid reason that I couldn't give a shit about, and then proceed to publicly tell me he knows more about my own mindset than I do, forcing me to spend time clarifying bullshit when I could be doing something else.

You can play the blame game to make yourself feel better all you want, but don't annoy me with that shit. I couldn't care less.
KorrvoMar 4, 2015 9:14 PM
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both are worthless.
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Definitely. I have lots of really close online friends which I've known for years.
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I don't have either.

But if I did, I think both could equally as valuable. With the internet, it's easy to search for your interests and find people who like the same interests. It's all about what you have in common. And then just like in real life, you can click with certain people online.
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AnimeFreak-San said:
I don't have either


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I'll stick with the notion "A friend is a friend despite how you communicate". There are drawbacks to both types of friendships; sure. But I don't understand how 'tangibility' becomes the deciding factor of which friendship is better. What if you can't 'touch' the other person? does that remove any credit from your friendship?

People who complain that they can't 'touch' their online friends just seem to me that even online, they're looking for sex friends rather friends.
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geniobastardo said:
People who complain that they can't 'touch' their online friends just seem to me that even online, they're looking for sex friends rather friends.


People who are suspicious of online friendships, but are a-okay with walking out to a party and meeting people are living in a contradiction.
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But with online convos it's hard to discern tone, humor, etc..

And that can really change the dynamic between two people. I use online dating - cuz i don't like bars/clubs - and I've set up some "rules" for myself along the lines of:

A) Date will never be the person they seem to be online. This is just how it works. Whatever you assume, no matter how much you talk, they're different in person.

B) Honeymoon periods exist and are seemingly permanent online. People will not show their true colors until you've met in person and even with that not for some time.

C) People be crazy.
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