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The thread is made to deter and prevent spam and spoilers in the specific episode discussion threads. If you want to discuss events not yet adapted in the anime, please be sure to do so here to prevent flooding or inadvertent spoiling to viewers who have not yet read or know of the events that transpire in the arc. Use spoiler tags if needed.

If you have any questions about the arc, ask here but tread this thread at your own risk.

By general consensus by the light novel-reading fans, Mother's Rosario and Alicization are the most favorited arcs of the entire series so the hype may cause more spoiling than usual, thus this thread is made to prevent that. Alicization is most likely not going to be adapted in the second season, but it is not impossible for the series to tease it at the end. Especially with that really huge cliffhanger at the beginning of that arc.

For any questions about Yuuki Konno, refer to her character page first, then ask for details and clarification. A warning that the first spoiler tag spoils her past and the second spoiler tag reveals what happens during the Mother's Rosario arc up until its end.

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The ED actually spoiled a lot about the Mother's Rosario arc. But out of context, one wouldn't really understand what they mean
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This shit almost made me cry.

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she is cheating anyway with... whatever prototype of soul translator?
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This shit almost made me cry.
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Reyxe said:
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This shit almost made me cry.


Hmm, I take back what I said in ep18, guess I'm picking it up again. This arc starts in ep18 right? I skipped like 3 eps after GGO was done.
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OppaiSugoi said:
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This shit almost made me cry.


Hmm, I take back what I said in ep18, guess I'm picking it up again. This arc starts in ep18 right? I skipped like 3 eps after GGO was done.


You skipped Caliber completely, LOL

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Reyxe said:
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Hmm, I take back what I said in ep18, guess I'm picking it up again. This arc starts in ep18 right? I skipped like 3 eps after GGO was done.


You skipped Caliber completely, LOL


Yeah didn't care for that one.
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Yeah I am pretty sure they will be using THAT cliffhanger for the end of season, followed by announcement of third season.

This arc sets it up nicely and its quite huge blow to
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It would be pretty risky for A-1 to directly announce season 3, especially after decreased sales of season 2.
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It would be pretty risky for A-1 to directly announce season 3, especially after decreased sales of season 2.


You sure? I think sales are going up now with MR and Alicization is the best arc so...

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From what I read, S2 volume 1 sold 18k, compared with S1 volume 1 selling 27.3k.
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Anything above 10k is pretty much a guaranteed sequel.
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From what I read, S2 volume 1 sold 18k, compared with S1 volume 1 selling 27.3k.


GGO didn't get much love cause of retarded fanboys, that's it.

Mother's should get 20k+... SHOULD.

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From what I read, S2 volume 1 sold 18k, compared with S1 volume 1 selling 27.3k.


GGO didn't get much love cause of retarded fanboys, that's it.

Mother's should get 20k+... SHOULD.

Though it may not since it shows people doing stuff with VR other than gaming with a lot of action showing
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defan752 said:
From what I read, S2 volume 1 sold 18k, compared with S1 volume 1 selling 27.3k.
That is only normal, people see it on TV, and just didnt enjoyed it has much as the first couple of episodes from SAO 1.
GGO is good, much better tha ALO arc, but it doesnt beat the best of Aircrad IMO.
Now MR, it has to have great sales...


Also, Really enjoyed the ED...
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defan752 said:
From what I read, S2 volume 1 sold 18k, compared with S1 volume 1 selling 27.3k.
That is only normal, people see it on TV, and just didnt enjoyed it has much as the first couple of episodes from SAO 1.
GGO is good, much better tha ALO arc, but it doesnt beat the best of Aircrad IMO.
Now MR, it has to have great sales...


Also, Really enjoyed the ED...

MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).
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That is only normal, people see it on TV, and just didnt enjoyed it has much as the first couple of episodes from SAO 1.
GGO is good, much better tha ALO arc, but it doesnt beat the best of Aircrad IMO.
Now MR, it has to have great sales...


Also, Really enjoyed the ED...

MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).

The only thing I want them to change is the kinda menage à trois ending with Alice and Asuna, the rest is so fucking BA it should stay...
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Rolanddeschain said:
salmon3669 said:

MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).

The only thing I want them to change is the kinda menage à trois ending with Alice and Asuna, the rest is so fucking BA it should stay...

Well he's actually chosen Asuna, Alice just doesn't give up.
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Rolanddeschain said:
salmon3669 said:

MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).

The only thing I want them to change is the kinda menage à trois ending with Alice and Asuna, the rest is so fucking BA it should stay...

Well its not like reki has downplayed love triangles before. But otherwise Alicization I approve.
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Rolanddeschain said:
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MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).

The only thing I want them to change is the kinda menage à trois ending with Alice and Asuna, the rest is so fucking BA it should stay...


Well, that should've gone into a spoiler... lol

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The only thing I want them to change is the kinda menage à trois ending with Alice and Asuna, the rest is so fucking BA it should stay...


Well, that should've gone into a spoiler... lol


Not really xD

But talking about changes, I've heard Reki totally changed the WN content for the next LN, as in he massively cut down certain parts and changed others ;-)
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Well, that should've gone into a spoiler... lol


Not really xD

But talking about changes, I've heard Reki totally changed the WN content for the next LN, as in he massively cut down certain parts and changed others ;-)


Nah, there are some differences, but i don't think they are major ones.

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Well, that should've gone into a spoiler... lol


Not really xD

But talking about changes, I've heard Reki totally changed the WN content for the next LN, as in he massively cut down certain parts and changed others ;-)

Volume 15 or VOlume 16? If its VOlume 15, he just reaarranged. But I am hoping for
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Not really xD

But talking about changes, I've heard Reki totally changed the WN content for the next LN, as in he massively cut down certain parts and changed others ;-)

Volume 15 or VOlume 16? If its VOlume 15, he just reaarranged. But I am hoping for

They also changed Gabriel Miller's
position in the series. Lots of new content about Alice though, and the only thing the LN cut off I believe is
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Volume 15 or VOlume 16? If its VOlume 15, he just reaarranged. But I am hoping for

They also changed Gabriel Miller's
position in the series. Lots of new content about Alice though, and the only thing the LN cut off I believe is

Yeah that's pretty much everything. Love the new content on ALice even though I can't read the novel yet. ALso pretty sure Gabriel is now a lietenant under someone in the NSA now.
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New OP sequences spoilers
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New OP sequences spoilers






DAFUQ QUOTE. wtf is wrong with this, LOL
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DAFUQ QUOTE.


Yes its because of this.

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Can you delete the quote to my post? its a spoiler, LOL

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Now that makes much more sense. Admittedly, I forgot about
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People questioning whether Yuuki is an AI though lol. Admittedly, Kirito thought so too in Hollow Fragment since
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Now that makes much more sense. Admittedly, I forgot about


I did too, had to check back in the wiki... its time to re-read Mother's Rosario!

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That is only normal, people see it on TV, and just didnt enjoyed it has much as the first couple of episodes from SAO 1.
GGO is good, much better tha ALO arc, but it doesnt beat the best of Aircrad IMO.
Now MR, it has to have great sales...


Also, Really enjoyed the ED...

MR comes out, if these sales don't go up, well that would be pretty wierd. Like Mother's Rosario is really good, next to ALicization. Except ALicization has a strong attention grabbing beginning, very strong middle and end (that totally only exists in the WN and probably will be changed anyway).

alicization is pretty darn good
except after eugeo got rekt, fuck you author.
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Well the change with Eugeo's end was interesting.

Anyway forgot about the twin sister. I think I stopped rereading SAO in the middle of GGO a while back so it's been more than 2 years since I read MR...

But yeah it's nice because that opening just hit me so bad and brought a lot of memories back to the plot of MR. So touching...makes me like MR more now than GGO LOL.
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why.... why does SAO always does this when its about villains and antagonist?

Why is it that the only reason for SAO to have villains and antagonist is so that we the audience can have someone that we can hate, just to hate on them.

Now they are doing it to Asuna's mom. She has to be presented as a jerk, someone mean, with bad motives just so we the audience can hate when she appears on screen or when she is mentioned.

Its not fun at all when you have worthless villains/antagonist.

A good villain/antagonist/rival is just as important as a good MC
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why.... why does SAO always does this when its about villains and antagonist?

Why is it that the only reason for SAO to have villains and antagonist is so that we the audience can have someone that we can hate, just to hate on them.

Now they are doing it to Asuna's mom. She has to be presented as a jerk, someone mean, with bad motives just so we the audience can hate when she appears on screen or when she is mentioned.

Its not fun at all when you have worthless villains/antagonist.

A good villain/antagonist/rival is just as important as a good MC


Uhh... why would you even need to post it twice? sigh

Also, she was just introduced, wait for her story to develop.

Also, Kayaba wasn't hated, Sugou was, Kyouji wasn't until he broke down and you didn't see enough of XaXa to hate him so... dafuq u talking about.

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why.... why does SAO always does this when its about villains and antagonist?

Why is it that the only reason for SAO to have villains and antagonist is so that we the audience can have someone that we can hate, just to hate on them.

Now they are doing it to Asuna's mom. She has to be presented as a jerk, someone mean, with bad motives just so we the audience can hate when she appears on screen or when she is mentioned.

Its not fun at all when you have worthless villains/antagonist.

A good villain/antagonist/rival is just as important as a good MC


Uhh... why would you even need to post it twice? sigh

Also, she was just introduced, wait for her story to develop.

Also, Kayaba wasn't hated, Sugou was, Kyouji wasn't until he broke down and you didn't see enough of XaXa to hate him so... dafuq u talking about.


Ahhh, yes, Kayaba. "I Forgot" about him
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Its not fun at all when you have worthless villains/antagonist.

A good villain/antagonist/rival is just as important as a good MC


Kayaba was a great antagonist, the "villain" that helped our heroes reach their goal and actually created the Knights of Blood as a stronghold to motivate people to clear the game. The only villainous act he did was trapping 1k+ people in the game, knowing it was the immoral thing to do but did it anyways. Afterwards, he developed the Seed which led to the creation of new worlds, and redeveloped the FullDive machine that led to the construction of the Medicuboid and Sou Translator.

Sugou was just a sick bastard along with Kyouji.

Asuna's mom isn't hateable since she actually has a good reason in doing what she does, and later on she learns to take other people's and her feelings into account so her character also evolves in the series. Mother's Roasrio isn't supposed to be an arc where they have to defeat someone (other than the floor boss), so there shouldn't be a main villain.
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Best villain though was Quinella, damn was she as hot as she was insane.
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why.... why does SAO always does this when its about villains and antagonist?

Why is it that the only reason for SAO to have villains and antagonist is so that we the audience can have someone that we can hate, just to hate on them.

Now they are doing it to Asuna's mom. She has to be presented as a jerk, someone mean, with bad motives just so we the audience can hate when she appears on screen or when she is mentioned.

Its not fun at all when you have worthless villains/antagonist.

A good villain/antagonist/rival is just as important as a good MC


Then I ask you: Is Asuna's mum actually hateable if you deeply think about what she said?

While I read through the MR story I never once hated her, yes I disliked her a bit but in course of her discussion with Asuna it became clear that all she wants is the best for her child. Her only flaw is that she is overly ambitious and that certainly isn't a hateable trait of a character, that makes her just more human.

She herself even said to Asuna that she can choose to marry sb else as long as that he has the reputation to stand up to hers. She doesn't want her to marry into money so that she herself can live in luxery but so that Asuna later can do whatever she wants without being bound by a lack of money (as she stated herself)

That she doesn't think about Kirito or Asuna's classmates like that is neither far fetched nor evil - she just doesn't know any better and as she rightfully claimed this school is primarily to keep all SAO survivors under close watch.
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Sugou was just a sick bastard along with Kyouji.


Seriously? I can't get to hate Kyouji, probably cause we are kinda similar, but i didn't get so crazy, probably cause Japan is way more strict with those things.

But even if I did, I can't get him in the same place as Sugou, i mean, he's like a male version of Asuna, both with those huge expectations, not listening to their child, ofc Asuna's mother is a bitch sometimes, but Kyouji's parents were total fuckers.

Not saying what he did was okay, but I just couldn't get to hate him that much if at all... His brother was the sick bastard.

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Sugou was just a sick bastard along with Kyouji.


Seriously? I can't get to hate Kyouji, probably cause we are kinda similar, but i didn't get so crazy, probably cause Japan is way more strict with those things.

But even if I did, I can't get him in the same place as Sugou, i mean, he's like a male version of Asuna, both with those huge expectations, not listening to their child, ofc Asuna's mother is a bitch sometimes, but Kyouji's parents were total fuckers.

Not saying what he did was okay, but I just couldn't get to hate him that much if at all... His brother was the sick bastard.


He introduced Asada to GGO because straight from the beginning he wanted to make her his own so he had a lustful malicious intent from the start. His plan was for Asada to rely on him through GGO and in real life, thus making her fall in love with him. However, through the stress of Sinon surpassing him, the introduction of Kirito, Asada's growing independence rather than dependence, plus expectations in real life drove him to the deep end and he succumbed to his carnal desires.
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Seriously? I can't get to hate Kyouji, probably cause we are kinda similar, but i didn't get so crazy, probably cause Japan is way more strict with those things.

But even if I did, I can't get him in the same place as Sugou, i mean, he's like a male version of Asuna, both with those huge expectations, not listening to their child, ofc Asuna's mother is a bitch sometimes, but Kyouji's parents were total fuckers.

Not saying what he did was okay, but I just couldn't get to hate him that much if at all... His brother was the sick bastard.


He introduced Asada to GGO because straight from the beginning he wanted to make her his own so he had a lustful malicious intent from the start. His plan was for Asada to rely on him through GGO and in real life, thus making her fall in love with him. However, through the stress of Sinon surpassing him, the introduction of Kirito, Asada's growing independence rather than dependence, plus expectations in real life drove him to the deep end and he succumbed to his carnal desires.


Hmmm... hadn't really thought about it that way, well, i guess you're right... I would like to think how Kyouji was before his life was ruined, damn.

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He introduced Asada to GGO because straight from the beginning he wanted to make her his own so he had a lustful malicious intent from the start. His plan was for Asada to rely on him through GGO and in real life, thus making her fall in love with him. However, through the stress of Sinon surpassing him, the introduction of Kirito, Asada's growing independence rather than dependence, plus expectations in real life drove him to the deep end and he succumbed to his carnal desires.


Hmmm... hadn't really thought about it that way, well, i guess you're right... I would like to think how Kyouji was before his life was ruined, damn.
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Found this really great fanart, volume 15 spoilers

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Great stuff™

It makes me want the Season 3 so baldy.
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Great stuff™

It makes me want the Season 3 so baldy.


Isn't that going to be Season 4? i think

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