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May 13, 2014 5:27 PM
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Takuan_Soho said:
I think I can explain this easier. The difference between an OP and a Stu is that with the OP there is at least an explanation, but with a Stu the reason is "because he is awesome". A secondary trait is that all the GS enemies are mind boggling stupid.

To date, through this episode, all we know is that Tatsuya is awesome and everyone he fights is either an elitist pig or an ignorant prole. And from the preview, what the next episode seems to be about is "how awesome Tatsuya and his sister are in wiping out all those soldiers" and "how stupid the evil villain is fighting a pointless battle (defending a base that lost all value the second they attacked the academy)".


There is a reason why he is OP.......they are going to explain it later. He is not just "awesome" but it's how he utilizes his abilities is "awesome". Just wait for his backstory which is going to be partially shown in episode 8 or 9. I hope you won't chastise him for being smart btw.

Also you may have forgotten a vital reason why they went to attack the terrorist base in the first place instead of leaving it to the police. Sure one of the reasons is, they invaded the siblings personal life and could cause trouble later. But remember the line about leaving everything in police would also cause Mibu and the other students to get arrested. Also what Mibu said and what Mari said were a lot different so there would be a reason behind this. Also there are a few people who will know about him destroying the whole branch so not everyone is going to say he is awesome. He is going to earn that respect in the second arc.

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guestlol said:
do u ever considered someone backing them up with government level authority did nobody bother to watch episode 4 when tatsuya said something about this


Not only did I "consider" it, I stated it in the post you responded to. And that makes even LESS sense than if Blanche had been homegrown.
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Takuan_Soho said:
guestlol said:
do u ever considered someone backing them up with government level authority did nobody bother to watch episode 4 when tatsuya said something about this


Not only did I "consider" it, I stated it in the post you responded to. And that makes even LESS sense than if Blanche had been homegrown.
how does that make less sense there is always someone behind the scene that controls something and he use the government against themself and of course they would get this info but in this world magic is also hated a pond by many people and want to get rid of it (not just for money)that dont exclude the government because they dont want to be control by the magician they made and they cant just get rid of them because they will lose their protection to foreign threat so they did nothing to stop them and plan to use them to weaken magicians influence and magicians has alot more control in japan than any other country so tatsuya decides to executioner because if they did not cover up this could turn much more worse than that terrorist attack
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Takuan_Soho said:
guestlol said:
do u ever considered someone backing them up with government level authority did nobody bother to watch episode 4 when tatsuya said something about this


Not only did I "consider" it, I stated it in the post you responded to. And that makes even LESS sense than if Blanche had been homegrown.



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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
There is a reason why he is OP.......they are going to explain it later.

As an animation only viewer why should I believe that? What in this adaptation makes you think that they are going to spend any time on it? The novel explained certain things within 20 pages; we are 25% of the way into this series and the adapters haven't cared to make sense of things.

If they don't care, why should we?


Dragon_Slayer_X said:
He is not just "awesome" but it's how he utilizes his abilities is "awesome".
Again, what in this adaption makes you think they are going to show this. They just gave him radar like techniques and infrared vision without foreshadowing or justification. There was nothing about the "use", they just sprung up like nothing. What makes you think the future is going to be any different.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Just wait for his backstory which is going to be partially shown in episode 8 or 9.

You hope. My guess is that 8 will conclude 7 and 9 will be a beach/pool scene.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
I hope you won't chastise him for being smart btw.

Depends on what kind of "smart" he is. Smart as in he uses logic to figure things out, or smart like his knowing state secrets without an explanation. First is cool, the second isn't smart, its bad writing.

Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Also you may have forgotten a vital reason why they went to attack the terrorist base in the first place instead of leaving it to the police. Sure one of the reasons is, they invaded the siblings personal life and could cause trouble later. But remember the line about leaving everything in police would also cause Mibu and the other students to get arrested. Also what Mibu said and what Mari said were a lot different so there would be a reason behind this. Also there are a few people who will know about him destroying the whole branch so not everyone is going to say he is awesome. He is going to earn that respect in the second arc.


That isn't a reason, its an excuse. Seriously stop trying to explain things, you are making it worse.

Do you honestly think that the government is ignorant of an international terrorist organization attacking their most prestigious magic school. They showed crowds gathered outside of the school gates. How are they going to cover that up, does Tatsuya have that mind blanking device from MIB?

Do you think that all the students who worked with the terrorists are going to keep quiet about who their leaders were (and Mibu was one, otherwise she wouldn't have been taken to the library)? Or that they all magically learned their lesson and will keep quiet for the "good of the school".

Do you think that the government would say "hey someone wiped out that terrorist branch controlled by a foreign government, cool we can go back to sipping our lattes because vigilantism is okay in my book, no need to investigate."

Nothing in this show hangs together. Maybe it is the fault of the original work, maybe not, but even if it was that isn't an excuse for the adapters. Their job is to tell a coherent story, they are failing miserably.

Edit: Should add, conspiracy is not a "reason" it's an excuse for poor writing. Why does everything happen? It's a conspiracy!
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Takuan_Soho said:

That isn't a reason, its an excuse. Seriously stop trying to explain things, you are making it worse.

Do you honestly think that the government is ignorant of an international terrorist organization attacking their most prestigious magic school. They showed crowds gathered outside of the school gates. How are they going to cover that up, does Tatsuya have that mind blanking device from MIB?

Do you think that all the students who worked with the terrorists are going to keep quiet about who their leaders were (and Mibu was one, otherwise she wouldn't have been taken to the library)? Or that they all magically learned their lesson and will keep quiet for the "good of the school".

Do you think that the government would say "hey someone wiped out that terrorist branch controlled by a foreign government, cool we can go back to sipping our lattes because vigilantism is okay in my book, no need to investigate."

Nothing in this show hangs together. Maybe it is the fault of the original work, maybe not, but even if it was that isn't an excuse for the adapters. Their job is to tell a coherent story, they are failing miserably.
oh if this is what u worries hmmm this really depends if they are going to explain the ten master clans to you but if they dont than we have a problem also read my post from above yea the mibu thing is not really reason behind it
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Takuan_Soho said:

Edit: Should add, conspiracy is not a "reason" it's an excuse for poor writing. Why does everything happen? It's a conspiracy!
how is conspiracy a bad writing i dont get what so bad about it unlike every other show they gave the villain a stupid reason like SAO villain one forgot his motive and second villain i dont know what stupid goal he was trying to achieve oh the villain do have some legit goal that make sense here and i dont mean blanches
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Takuan_Soho said:


Excuses? Dude are you just trying complain? Pointing out flaws is one thing but this is getting tiresome. I know my explanation skills are not "Top-notch" quality like yours but excuses? Why just because i like the show. Better call everything you say as excuses to hate then.

All those i said were response to your "Gary Stu" comment. Rather than putting spoilers, you can just see why in the next arc. Well they won't show his abilities completely but at least they will give you a good idea. As for these 6 episodes, it is already said that he can see and understand Magic Sequences and i already told you that "Elemental Sight" let's him view the information dimension or eidos. There aren't any details about it because it was hinted at this arc and explained pretty well in the later arc. He can use specific magic jamming because he can identify magic sequences so yeah they did show us something.

Takuan_Soho said:

You hope. My guess is that 8 will conclude 7 and 9 will be a beach/pool scene.


Wanna bet? How about you tone it down a little if it doesn't turn out to be a pool episode and the same goes for me if it does.

Also about the last thing you pointed out, i put a small part about Ten Master Clans earlier. They didn't completely explain this in the anime but gave some hints about it in episode 3-4. All those bad writing you are talking about, they are explained as the story moves forward. So you can wait for it patiently, read the LNs, drop the whole show altogether or find out plotholes or bad writing each episode. It's your choice.

Sure the anime isn't perfect, cut out a lot of things but it's quite faithful about the chain of events so far. If you see it as excuses so be it.
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guestlol said:
oh if this is what u worries hmmm this really depends if they are going to explain the ten master clans to you but if they dont than we have a problem also read my post from above yea the mibu thing is not really reason behind it


A good conspiracy is like a good mystery, when the explanation comes you should be able to look back on everything that came before and say "wow, how did I miss that". Without that a conspiracy or mystery isn't a reason, it is a rationalization. Nothing either of you have said has suggested that this is going to happen.

One can forgive the writer for changing things as it is being written, but the animators have no excuse. They KNOW what is going to happen and these six (soon to be seven) episodes should be dropping hints and clues pointing towards what is going to happen. Otherwise these episodes are pointless (well, we do know that Miyuki has the hots for Tatsuya, they have made that abundantly clear).
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guestlol said:
how is conspiracy a bad writing i dont get what so bad about it unlike every other show they gave the villain a stupid reason like SAO villain one forgot his motive and second villain i dont know what stupid goal he was trying to achieve oh the villain do have some legit goal that make sense here and i dont mean blanches


Both villains in SAO had easy to explain motives. The first wanted to create a world and then play god in it (a temptation for all writers), and the second villain wanted to prove himself superior to the first villain (who he had always lost to). The first villain was a tragedy, the second villain was a farce. Who knew that the writer knew his Marx!

This is not to say that they make compelling villains, but at least they are understandable villains.

A conspiracy is bad writing because it is a form of deus ex machina. Now there are some very good plays that do have this device, however for the most part it is used as a "get out of plot" card.
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Takuan_Soho said:
guestlol said:
oh if this is what u worries hmmm this really depends if they are going to explain the ten master clans to you but if they dont than we have a problem also read my post from above yea the mibu thing is not really reason behind it


A good conspiracy is like a good mystery, when the explanation comes you should be able to look back on everything that came before and say "wow, how did I miss that". Without that a conspiracy or mystery isn't a reason, it is a rationalization. Nothing either of you have said has suggested that this is going to happen.

One can forgive the writer for changing things as it is being written, but the animators have no excuse. They KNOW what is going to happen and these six (soon to be seven) episodes should be dropping hints and clues pointing towards what is going to happen. Otherwise these episodes are pointless (well, we do know that Miyuki has the hots for Tatsuya, they have made that abundantly clear).
yea or some body is not picking up clues they give and throwing it out like trash that some people ask how the hell the terrorist use cast jamming when it is explain in episode 4 their was mineral call antinate and yea i did see the animator has alot of problem cutting explanation and if u complaining of foreshadowing than yea it was a problem the animator made if u saying the first 3 episode and the miyuki has the hots for her bro i cant deny that at this point but i could deny it is not going to go incest
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guestlol said:
yea or some body is not picking up clues they give

Hard to pick up non-existent clues....

guestlol said:
how the hell the terrorist use cast jamming when it is explain in episode 4 their was mineral call antinate

Uhm, because the foreign power supplied it? Like how the USSR supplied weapons to revolutionaries? That would have been a rational conjecture from the evidence provided. However, as I stated above, had the terrorists been completely homegrown, then you might have had a point.

Just out of curiosity. What is your native language? I thought all languages had some sort of written grammatical structure, but I could easily be wrong.
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Takuan_Soho said:
guestlol said:
yea or some body is not picking up clues they give

Hard to pick up non-existent clues....

guestlol said:
how the hell the terrorist use cast jamming when it is explain in episode 4 their was mineral call antinate

Uhm, because the foreign power supplied it? Like how the USSR supplied weapons to revolutionaries? That would have been a rational conjecture from the evidence provided. However, as I stated above, had the terrorists been completely homegrown, then you might have had a point.

Just out of curiosity. What is your native language? I thought all languages had some sort of written grammatical structure, but I could easily be wrong.
they do give clues but that is properly the animators fault and well i am not sure if u call them homegrown they are just japan branch of blanche u will find out if they do not cut it out
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Yo. Let's keep the posts on-topic~
This thread is supposed to be about the preview and must be a thread only about the preview. Discussing about some future events is inevitable (eg, Yokohama and Reminiscence arc etc), but please keep it to a minimum.

Please create a new thread if you want to discuss something totally off-topic. ^__^
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Pariston_Hill said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frth_HT_LqE

cool


That looks awesome and the animation looks splendid, MadHouse is doing a fine job.
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Pariston_Hill said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frth_HT_LqE

cool


This is probably my favorite arc from the LN. I just hope they adapt this right. I'm not sure how many episodes though..maybe 8-10 depending on pacing.
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Can't wait till next week! The competition is gonna be great to watch!
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May 18, 2014 1:29 AM

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AquaWateria said:
Pariston_Hill said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frth_HT_LqE

cool


That looks awesome and the animation looks splendid, MadHouse is doing a fine job.

Took words out of my mouth :)

Though Kanon and Eimi looks a bit different from the LN to me, not that I'm complaining :>

May 18, 2014 11:38 AM

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Hello there, Mikihiko!

Whoa, so that's how
actually looks like! Cool!!
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Pariston_Hill said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frth_HT_LqE

cool


Woaah. Very nice.
Can't wait for it.
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Wagh, looking at the sneak peek at the next OP is making me extremely hopeful.

Honestly, while i did not expect too much frm the first arc, it was still rather dispointing. But looking at the clips here and there of the 9SC arc, I can't help but hope for much more than would b safe to expect if i didnt want to face crushing disappointment in case Madhouse screws up (whatever that means...)

Ahhh... whatever it is, I have high high hopes for the coming episodes. Just PLEASE b so good it completely erases the disappointment of the first arc.

At the very least, I'm hoping animation improves much more, cos animation has, to b blunt, pretty bland and action scenes too short so far...
The most annoying thing about some anime is that they don't know when they've died...
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Duri1n said:
Wagh, looking at the sneak peek at the next OP is making me extremely hopeful.

I keep hearing people saying that they will change the video of the OP starting next episode. Is there a sneak peek at the new OP?

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Episode 8 preview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEKm-bMi5GM

Enjoy.

Thanks! So, they'll cover the whole chapter 1 of the 3rd novel in the next episode. There're 14 chapters for the 9SC arc so let's hope this time they know what to keep and what to leave out best. Though most of these are fights which can be done in a short time so I hope it'll be adapted better than enrollment arc.
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Nice to see the
scene. We'll be seeing that quite a lot during the 9SC.

Although I'm a bit confused,
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EasyGo-er said:
Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Episode 8 preview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEKm-bMi5GM

Enjoy.

Thanks! So, they'll cover the whole chapter 1 of the 3rd novel in the next episode. There're 14 chapters for the 9SC arc so let's hope this time they know what to keep and what to leave out best. Though most of these are fights which can be done in a short time so I hope it'll be adapted better than enrollment arc.


Yeah buddy i hope they adapt this part well too. I am looking forward to Mikihiko's introduction and Erika in a "Traditional Sport Uniform"..........along with Kanon, Isori, Emi, Subaru (the glasses girl next to Emi i guess).

alcrowry said:
Nice to see the
scene. We'll be seeing that quite a lot during the 9SC.

Although I'm a bit confused,


Kirihara activates his magic with the bracelet and invokes the spell on the sword. That's how i have seen it. The most common CADs are bracelet, terminal or gun shaped if i am not mistaken.

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Ep 9 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFHqaduD6ps

I'm curious to see how will they animate all the spirits since I don't remember if it was shown in the LNs.
Anyone wants to guess how much they will adapt for ep 9? I for one, think that they would adapt up to the first quarter of chapter 4, ending in the middle of the accident. Though this would mean it will take 2 chapters for the episode, the ending is perfect that I think they might just go with it.
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EasyGo-er said:
Ep 9 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFHqaduD6ps

I'm curious to see how will they animate all the spirits since I don't remember if it was shown in the LNs.
Anyone wants to guess how much they will adapt for ep 9? I for one, think that they would adapt up to the first quarter of chapter 4, ending in the middle of the accident. Though this would mean it will take 2 chapters for the episode, the ending is perfect that I think they might just go with it.


I am looking forward to seeing Mikihiko's spirit magic animated........well spirits will be shown like spirits i guess, orbs with different colors. I just hope they don't cut down Tatsuya and Mikihiko's conversation.

Cliffhangers has been this anime's specialty..........more than half the episodes ended in cliffhangers.

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EasyGo-er said:
Ep 9 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFHqaduD6ps


Looks good.

Really excited for this arc, it's one of my favourites, we get to see the awesome three amigos bond together.

Strong bromance incoming.
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stealthdasher said:
EasyGo-er said:
Ep 9 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFHqaduD6ps


Looks good.

Really excited for this arc, it's one of my favourites, we get to see the awesome three amigos bond together.

Strong bromance incoming.


Ha Ha you got that right...........this trio is a force to be reckoned with.

Remember that "The sympathy of warriors" line?

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Dragon_Slayer_X said:
Ha Ha you got that right...........this trio is a force to be reckoned with.

Remember that "The sympathy of warriors" line?


Yeah that scene gave me a good laugh.
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EasyGo-er said:
Ep 9 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFHqaduD6ps

I'm curious to see how will they animate all the spirits since I don't remember if it was shown in the LNs.
Anyone wants to guess how much they will adapt for ep 9? I for one, think that they would adapt up to the first quarter of chapter 4, ending in the middle of the accident. Though this would mean it will take 2 chapters for the episode, the ending is perfect that I think they might just go with it.


We get to see Mikihiko and some Mizuki this time. And that magic of Mikihiko looks nicely animated. Really hope MadHouse adapts this arc splendidly.
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Judging from the preview, I guess they wanted to make the 'All hell breaks loose' part as a surprise XD
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hope they don't cut Aoki's scene.
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hope they don't cut Aoki's scene.

He's in the episode.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140531111625/sonako/images/3/3f/Mahouka_284.jpg

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/860/860786/
Seems like it will really end with the cliffhanger of the accident :)
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Ep 10 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCN5tmVWo8g

Here you go :)
Not much to say in this one, dat Meido Erika though :3

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EasyGo-er said:
Ep 10 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCN5tmVWo8g

Here you go :)
Not much to say in this one, dat Meido Erika though :3


Looking forward to a certain someone appearing and making an interesting speech........

Also Erika in a maid uniform......looking forward to it.

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That special guest appearing.
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Another 'calm before storm' episode :)
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alcrowry said:
Another 'calm before storm' episode :)


That storm sure know how to take it's time.
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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/864/864106/

So who wants to guess that Madhouse is taking the fanservice over substance approach with this adaptation?
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millie10468 said:
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/864/864106/

So who wants to guess that Madhouse is taking the fanservice over substance approach with this adaptation?


What's there to guess when the evidence is right there in front of us?
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millie10468 said:
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/864/864106/

So who wants to guess that Madhouse is taking the fanservice over substance approach with this adaptation?


Those parts were in the LN and manga..........but still pointless and could easily be skipped. I just hope they keep some of the important scenes regarding Erika and Mikihiko intact (just my wishing thinking i guess).

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millie10468 said:
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/864/864106/

So who wants to guess that Madhouse is taking the fanservice over substance approach with this adaptation?


While there may be fanservice that is usually used in anime, which people shouldn't be surprised about. There's nothing we can do about it. Though we also see scenes that contain important information. In the end though I'm just gonna watch this episode. We also get Erika in a maid outfit which is so a big plus :)
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Episode 10 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkbCPkaG4Cc

Looks like the competition will be off to a good start this week.
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millie10468 said:
Episode 10 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkbCPkaG4Cc

Looks like the competition will be off to a good start this week.

Nice... And it looks like we'll at least get to Kanon's Ice Pillar Break in the next ep, I thought that they would end it at the end of chapter 5, not that I'm complaining :P

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Yes the competition is gonna be animated next ep, I've been waiting for this. Animation looks nice too.
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Judging from the review, it is going to be a full action episode next, a chance for the other characters to shine.
Hope they don't left out the conversations between Tatsuya and Mayumi there ;)
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Will this ep close out vol 3?Kind of forgot where vol 3 ended :)
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