| im fine with both. i dont fetishize sexualities sooooOOOOOoooo |
NarTaco said: I dislike both. Pretty much this.^ |
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Kimono_Kitsune said: Can you refine these claims and/or back them up? I'm genuinely curious.Girls are the main target audience of yuri. The majority of yuri readers are girls. Just saying. Mogu-sama said: Interesting. My guess would have been closer to the exact opposite, lol. It seems to me that the majority of Western yuri fans are males, but maybe I'm wrong there, too.Yuri-hime's readership is 75% female at their last polling, women are the main source of revenue for Yuri. Nicole said: That definition of yuri is obsolete, I believe.I dislike Yuri and Yaoi both (note; Yuri and Yaoi are generally considered the hentai versions of Shoujo/Shounen Ai). I like Shoujo Ai and Shounen Ai however, which have no hentai in it. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Mamimii said: Kimono_Kitsune said: Can you refine these claims and/or back them up? I'm genuinely curious.Girls are the main target audience of yuri. The majority of yuri readers are girls. Just saying. Mogu-sama said: Interesting. My guess would have been closer to the exact opposite, lol. It seems to me that the majority of Western yuri fans are males, but maybe I'm wrong there, too.Yuri-hime's readership is 75% female at their last polling, women are the main source of revenue for Yuri. Nicole said: That definition of yuri is obsolete, I believe.I dislike Yuri and Yaoi both (note; Yuri and Yaoi are generally considered the hentai versions of Shoujo/Shounen Ai). I like Shoujo Ai and Shounen Ai however, which have no hentai in it. There are seperate yuri magazines for males. And yuri (or shoujo ai, as you will) is also featured in many seinen magazines. |
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| All the anime I've seen that have been tagged Yuri have been either mediocre or complete garbage *cough* Sakura Kiss *cough*, (and no I haven't watched Simoun, the first episode bored me), I get the feeling that shows with yuri rely too much on the yuri tiself to pull the weight of the show, and so is otherwise substandard. |
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Shiratori99 said: camilleanime said: yaoi brings purity to my heart I don't see what guys raping other guys has to do with purity, but ok. I don't see how guys raping other guys are the only existing form of yaoi, but ok. |
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Infinite said: That said, I do kinda find the concept of shoujo-ai more appealing than yuri because shoujo-ai presumably has a better focus on romance, and less fanservice. This. I don't actively look for anything with GL, but that doesn't mean I'll shy away from a series just because of it. |
Mamimii said: The majority of the readers of the major anthologies are overwhemingly female. As for sources/statistics I don't really have, I'm just repassing what I thought was common knowledge, but, I will probably work on those sources someday, if I ever learn Japanese.Kimono_Kitsune said: Can you refine these claims and/or back them up? I'm genuinely curious.Girls are the main target audience of yuri. The majority of yuri readers are girls. Just saying. Nicole said: On mal, yes, but that term is long obsolete, yuri range is much wider than that, from girls holding hands to whatever NSFW work you can find.I dislike Yuri and Yaoi both (note; Yuri and Yaoi are generally considered the hentai versions of Shoujo/Shounen Ai). I like Shoujo Ai and Shounen Ai however, which have no hentai in it. Even on mal some titles are beggining to adapt to our later years. See Sakura Trick and Akuma no Riddle tags, none of they are hentai and they aren't tagged as shoujo-ai. Which is a good thing, mal might be slowly walking towards updating itself. If only the db mods would reply to this thread. Infinite said: I agree with Sakura Trick, but Simoun definitely doesn't.(and no I haven't watched Simoun, the first episode bored me), I get the feeling that shows with yuri rely too much on the yuri tiself to pull the weight of the show, and so is otherwise substandard. |
| I like yuri and traps. Traps are basically flat chested girls with ochin-chins so thats okay I guess. (thats what I tell myself all the time) |
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| I like both but from the drawing aspect, if the picture is nicely drawn with amazing colors and certain poses, I don't mind either, i love collecting pictures :) For a Hentai or Anime wise, it is a bland for me. I don't like nor dislike both of them but i will lean more toward yuri than yaoi sometime. |
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Mamimii said: I couldn't say for sure but Yuri is rather popular in one of my lesbian subreddits; I think it's more that Yuri is generally "watchable" for heterosexual men while Yaoi has that "Ew, penis" factorInteresting. My guess would have been closer to the exact opposite, lol. It seems to me that the majority of Western yuri fans are males, but maybe I'm wrong there, too. So less that men are fans and more that men will just watch Yuri like everything else, I think women tend to be far more in the actual category of fan because of the sense of validation and representation Yuri provides that heterosexual romance doesn't Mamimii said: Generally, I do see Yuri used more than shoujo-aiThat definition of yuri is obsolete, I believe. |
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Infinite said: If only you read manga, you would understand :(.All the anime I've seen that have been tagged Yuri have been either mediocre or complete garbage *cough* Sakura Kiss *cough*, (and no I haven't watched Simoun, the first episode bored me), I get the feeling that shows with yuri rely too much on the yuri tiself to pull the weight of the show, and so is otherwise substandard. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Mamimii said: Infinite said: If only you read manga, you would understand :(.All the anime I've seen that have been tagged Yuri have been either mediocre or complete garbage *cough* Sakura Kiss *cough*, (and no I haven't watched Simoun, the first episode bored me), I get the feeling that shows with yuri rely too much on the yuri tiself to pull the weight of the show, and so is otherwise substandard. Sakura Trick 2deep4u, m8. |
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Kimono_Kitsune said: That's okay, I'll take your word for it. I was just surprised because I read on multiple blogs that "most yuri is still drawn by men for men." I don't know what the yuri mangaka gender stats say—but, I suppose that either that's untrue, or a lot of females also read male-targeted yuri.The majority of the readers of the major anthologies are overwhemingly female. As for sources/statistics I don't really have, I'm just repassing what I thought was common knowledge, but, I will probably work on those sources someday, if I ever learn Japanese. Mogu-sama said: That makes sense.So less that men are fans and more that men will just watch Yuri like everything else, I think women tend to be far more in the actual category of fan because of the sense of validation and representation Yuri provides that heterosexual romance doesn't Mogu-chan said: Yeah, likewise. I meant that yuri is more inclusive now (if it wasn't always); it doesn't only refer to explicit physical relationships.Generally, I do see Yuri used more than shoujo-ai |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Well for what it's worth, Yuri Hime has 70% female readership, [1] while Yuri Hime S is aimed at males. Makes you wonder, don't it. |
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| It'd be interesting to see the gender demographics for yuri viewers from a western audience, opposed to a Japanese audience. I know on one (western) site I go to that uploads strictly yaoi content, a survey showed that the overwhelming majority of visitors were male, which wasn't expected at all. |
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Mamimii said: Akito_Kinomoto said: You're late, haha. Mogu mentioned that on the last page.Well for what it's worth, Yuri Hime has 70% female readership, [1] while Yuri Hime S is aimed at males. Makes you wonder, don't it. <3 Expecting people to read? That's low. oAo |
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Sapewloth said: Shiratori99 said: camilleanime said: yaoi brings purity to my heart I don't see what guys raping other guys has to do with purity, but ok. I don't see how guys raping other guys are the only existing form of yaoi, but ok. Rape in yaoi at least as common as rape in hentai, that should tell you something. |
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Sora_N said: Just chance I supposeOk, strange question then…if shōjo-ai is meant for women and written/produced by women why is it that all of the shōjo-ai manga/anime all full of nothing but drama, drama, and more drama From what I've seen on MAL's DB, there is actually far less Yuri than there is Yaoi, not sure why this is exactly, but it might contribute to a limited set of content styles |
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Sora_N said: Sampling bias.Ok, strange question then…if shōjo-ai is meant for women and written/produced by women why is it that all of the shōjo-ai manga/anime all full of nothing but drama, drama, and more drama; however, shōnen-ai/yaoi has more comedy, action, more romance, and some drama and shōnen-ai is made by woman for woman as well? That’s my issue with shōjo-ai is that most all of the shōjo-ai anime/manga is boring most of the time (I do like some shōjo-ai series; however, shōnen-ai/yaoi at least is not drama overload). |
Sora_N said: Ok, strange question then…if shōjo-ai is meant for women and written/produced by women why is it that all of the shōjo-ai manga/anime all full of nothing but drama, drama, and more drama; however, shōnen-ai/yaoi has more comedy, action, more romance, and some drama and shōnen-ai is made by woman for woman as well? That’s my issue with shōjo-ai is that most all of the shōjo-ai anime/manga is boring most of the time (I do like some shōjo-ai series; however, shōnen-ai/yaoi at least is not drama overload). Females in general like melodrama more than males. There is lots of lighthearted shoujo ai running in seinen magazines, which is more comedy than romance. And about shounen ai, gender stereotypes I guess. From a woman's point of view, male characters go better with action plots than females. |
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Sora_N said: Apparently Gunsmith Cats has some yuri content (http://myanimelist.net/anime/650/Gunsmith_Cats). I haven't read it myself, so I can't say for sure.Now they need to make a shōjo-ai series with cops or military NOW that I would love! |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| I wouldn't call it yuri, but Noir has some "shoujo-ai" content. Sort of. For like, a brief scene toward the end. But all the main characters are female characters, with every male character being somebody who dies or is relatively unimportant to the plot. So there's that. If you have yuri-goggles on, I guess it could be quite worth the watch. |
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Sora_N said: Ah, too bad. I generally avoid stories that have both romance and action, so this isn't my forte, haha.I have seen the OVA...I would not say that is shōjo-ai...... |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
Syndrical said: when I see yaoi pics I think it's weird and I don't really like it. Is it the same with girls? Do you enjoy yaoi but dislike yuri? Depends on the target audience, I don't really mind random yuri in a shoujo. I wouldn't say I "hate" it. Is just kinda boring for me and compared to yaoi doesn't make me feel anything, so I don't read it. |
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Red_Keys said: It'd be interesting to see the gender demographics for yuri viewers from a western audience, opposed to a Japanese audience. I know on one (western) site I go to that uploads strictly yaoi content, a survey showed that the overwhelming majority of visitors were male, which wasn't expected at all. It's funny because I think I know the site you are talking about. |
Ferolex said: Cupquake said: I'm a guy and I like both. Yaoi seems to usually be better written though Really? Maybe manga... but anime? it's basically all garbage right now... kinda disappointing. yeah...the series they decided to animate... Love Stage... *facepalm* |
Landmines said: I'm a guy but I'll answer anyway. I don't think I'd mind a yaoi story if there was no kissing or sex, since it's just romance to me. Girls are very annoying with yaoi compared to guys with yuri however. Well, it seems the main yaoi demographic is like 14 year old girls, which is why I think the shittiest manga get animated... I can't understand why Junjou Romantica is so popular... it actually bothered me watching it, the first episode was nice, but then it just turned into a clusterfuck of rape, denial and stupid ass humour. THIS http://myanimelist.net/manga/26324/Konbini-kun was much more memorable, and it was only five damn chapters. |
Ferolex said: I was a big fan when of Junjou when I was 14 and I loved it because yay gay and ignored all the molestation and the weird as fuck art. The only couple worth reading are Hiroki and Nowaki and they're still unrealistic (start studying in the US, don't tell SO for over a year).Landmines said: I'm a guy but I'll answer anyway. I don't think I'd mind a yaoi story if there was no kissing or sex, since it's just romance to me. Girls are very annoying with yaoi compared to guys with yuri however. Well, it seems the main yaoi demographic is like 14 year old girls, which is why I think the shittiest manga get animated... I can't understand why Junjou Romantica is so popular... it actually bothered me watching it, the first episode was nice, but then it just turned into a clusterfuck of rape, denial and stupid ass humour. THIS http://myanimelist.net/manga/26324/Konbini-kun was much more memorable, and it was only five damn chapters. Also loved Konbini. |
| I like both yuri and yaoi. I'm a bisexual female btw. |
| I'm a guy and Yuri turns me on. Yaoi turns me off. |
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| I like lesbian and gay couples in anime and manga. I look at them as couples. but if you mean the genre, then I really don't enjoy it. It's just over sexualized homosexuality, though I don't like over sexualized heterosexuality either. |
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moonkingdomify said: I like lesbian and gay couples in anime and manga. I look at them as couples. but if you mean the genre, then I really don't enjoy it. It's just over sexualized homosexuality, though I don't like over sexualized heterosexuality either. You sound like you have great taste. |
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Shiratori99 said: moonkingdomify said: I like lesbian and gay couples in anime and manga. I look at them as couples. but if you mean the genre, then I really don't enjoy it. It's just over sexualized homosexuality, though I don't like over sexualized heterosexuality either. You sound like you have great taste. Thank you. In reality I don't really care much for sex either. It's enjoyable but not necessary for a happy life or relationship. Well, in a long distance relationship it's not really possible to do so. |
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moonkingdomify said: Shiratori99 said: moonkingdomify said: I like lesbian and gay couples in anime and manga. I look at them as couples. but if you mean the genre, then I really don't enjoy it. It's just over sexualized homosexuality, though I don't like over sexualized heterosexuality either. You sound like you have great taste. Thank you. In reality I don't really care much for sex either. It's enjoyable but not necessary for a happy life or relationship. Well, in a long distance relationship it's not really possible to do so. Yeah, one thing I resent about the anime/manga community is the popularity of fanservice titles. With few exceptions, the more sexual content an anime/manga has, the more popular it will be. This applies to such grimdark and pseudo-mature titles like berserk or wolf guy too and of course the whole yaoi fandom. Well, I guess I'm just frustrated that the stuff I like is always unpopular and rarely gets an anime adaption. |
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| That completely depends on the picture... o.o I don't mind ones which give off honest, romantic vibes (although I don't care about yuri, so it's not interesting or anything either way for me), but there are many pictures which are forced and such (I'm also thinking about these scenes of girls in locker rooms enthusiastically grabbing each other. Ugh) If there weren't some pictures/scenes/whatever feeling forced and/or giving off the vibes it was done for (heterosexual) males and/or if I didn't know there are people looking at it in that way (which isn't limited to yuri), I wouldn't be bothered or grossed out (and maybe even enjoyed it). ( ´_ゝ`) At the moment, I already have too many entries on my PTR or PTW to try anything new, though. JD2411 said: Ratohnhaketon said: >Implying I want to date a 3DPD girlJD2411 said: Guys probably think something like this~ "damn my 3DPD disgusting body can't ever get with these kawaii bitches" Thank me later. Actually right now. Zero hoots given son Uh... :O Isn't it -- if anything -- implying that 2D "girls" are out of reach for you (or replace the latter with "3D" guys, but considering your response, you should be a part of that)? ...Unless you were referring to real people with "kawaii bitches" before. |
| Yuri Yes. Yaoi No. That's how I feel. But hey, I'm bisexual with a preferece for women so I doubt my opinion matters here XD |
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| I don't really have anything against it but since a lot of it is aimed at heterosexual males I doubt I'd enjoy it. I have a few yuri manga on my PTR though, so I guess I'll see. |
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Nicole said: I dislike Yuri and Yaoi both (note; Yuri and Yaoi are generally considered the hentai versions of Shoujo/Shounen Ai). I like Shoujo Ai and Shounen Ai however, which have no hentai in it. This is a popular notion in Western circles, but that is not the case in Japan; Yuri refers to lesbian content alone regardless of pornographic content. Shoujo-ai on the other hand refers to pedophilia. Why use a loanword if you are not going to use it properly? |
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AnnoKano said: Nicole said: I dislike Yuri and Yaoi both (note; Yuri and Yaoi are generally considered the hentai versions of Shoujo/Shounen Ai). I like Shoujo Ai and Shounen Ai however, which have no hentai in it. This is a popular notion in Western circles, but that is not the case in Japan; Yuri refers to lesbian content alone regardless of pornographic content. Shoujo-ai on the other hand refers to pedophilia. Why use a loanword if you are not going to use it properly? I thought the notion of shoujo-ai simply didn't exist in Japan? |
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| I don't really have strong opinions about either of them to be honest. |
NarTaco said: I dislike both. |
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