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gedata said: Plot doesn't even matter with Jojo to me all that much. Araki is not as equally a master storyteller as he is a master fight choreographer. I'd even go so far as to say that "the plot" is the weakest aspect of Araki's works, although I know that just saying that is bound to get some knee-jerk angry reactions from other Jojo fans. |
fluffybunnyboyApr 24, 2014 7:57 PM
Fadeout4 said: I don't think that has anything to do with it, if that were the case, Josuke and Kira would be about the middle and Giorno and Jotaro would be quite higher. And it would be odd for William Anthonio Zeppeli to be in second last place above only Akira.insan3Spectre said: Is that seriously Jonathon at number 1? Definitely not what I expected... This is an oooooold poll. I think the part 1/2 anime was still airing. So Jonathan was in the spotlight from the anime (though you would think Joseph would win over Jonathan -shrug-) That's a poll for best character as a part of the game, Jonathan is an extremely versatile playset as opposed to someone like Gappy whom is in the bottom 10 despite being the current protagonist. No surprises in the bottom 7 though. |
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| Oh, and as for that ASB poll: Jonathan is the most Ryu and Ken-like character in ASB (with a fireball/DP/tatsu-type special move combination), so of course he was going to end up being the most popularly played character. He's the easiest character for newcomers to pick up, play, and immediately know what they're doing. |
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| My official ranking: 4>7>6>5>2>3>1 Most enjoyable: Part 4. Great villain, imaginative stands (even if they didn't all work) and overall just very entertaining. Best art: Part 7. Don't think anyone will contest that mid to late SBR is just gorgeous to look at. Story is well written too. Favourite story: Part 6. Jolyne is easily my favourite JoJo. The conflict between her and her allies and the main villain is completely compelling, with the highlight being between Weather Report and Pucci. |
WandererReduxApr 26, 2014 3:38 PM
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The_Redux said: Favourite story: Part 6. Jolyne is easily my favourite JoJo. The conflict between her and her allies and the main villain is completely compelling, with the highlight being between Weather Report and Pucci. |
fluffybunnyboy said: B-B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SNAILS!The_Redux said: Favourite story: Part 6. Jolyne is easily my favourite JoJo. The conflict between her and her allies and the main villain is completely compelling, with the highlight being between Weather Report and Pucci. I love how Pucci gedata said: Akira Otoishi is lowest and he can use electricity.why is Will so low? He's pretty cool Fucking electricity, he's cool damnit! |
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skudoops said: Jotaro was alot more of an authoritative figure in 4 and 6, I feel that's where his character really shines.I think this part is pretty weak so far because Jotaro is lame. He didn't get much screentime in Stone Ocean though, would of liked to see a lot more of he and Jolyne. |
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skudoops said: I think this part is pretty weak so far because Jotaro is lame. Jotaro is quite a jerk in the early chapters. I like him a bit better as Part 3 goes on, though. He never becomes as interesting as Joseph in Part 2, but at least he becomes more of a quiet and determined Clint Eastwood-y type, once he's away from berating his own mother. |
| Stone Ocean. This part was so good that i couldn't describe my feeling XD And |
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skudoops said: I can relate well to the stern silent personality but in a show about being ridiculous it kinda kills the mood. Nah, it actually works in Jojo's favor eventually. We just haven't gotten to the fights where it does yet. Give it time, and you'll see. |
fluffybunnyboy said: The_Redux said: Favourite story: Part 6. Jolyne is easily my favourite JoJo. The conflict between her and her allies and the main villain is completely compelling, with the highlight being between Weather Report and Pucci. |
WandererReduxApr 30, 2014 5:09 PM
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| Kira's story arc is the best thing in Jojo. Every part is awesome though. |
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The_Redux said: fluffybunnyboy said: The_Redux said: Favourite story: Part 6. Jolyne is easily my favourite JoJo. The conflict between her and her allies and the main villain is completely compelling, with the highlight being between Weather Report and Pucci. |
fluffybunnyboyMay 2, 2014 4:30 PM
| SO is like that, or you hate it or you love it. I'm the latter, but that's just me. |
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| Part 4 and 7 take the cake for me. If you really enjoy mystery/action/suspense thrillers you'll really like Part 4. It reminded me a TON of Persona 4 in terms of setting, characters, and stands(like being the personas). It's where I thought Araki went really hit his drive with making set piece fights, and incredibly interesting stands. Part 7 is just as good as everyone says it is. It feels like a complete story not restrained to being in a weekly magazine. Also I'm a big history nerd, so having a part take place in the wild west made it much more enjoyable with the atmosphere. Like when it got to meeting Mountain Tim my inner fanboy was screaming. |
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Sakata-san said: Part 7 is just as good as everyone says it is. It feels like a complete story not restrained to being in a weekly magazine. Also I'm a big history nerd, so having a part take place in the wild west made it much more enjoyable with the atmosphere. Like when it got to meeting Mountain Tim my inner fanboy was screaming. I don't feel like SBR is a complete story, considering Araki left questions about the origins of the story completely unanswered, such as: Also, I kinda don't like some other parts of the story, like Even worse was how Araki handled the ending, being like |
fluffybunnyboy said: Sakata-san said: Part 7 is just as good as everyone says it is. It feels like a complete story not restrained to being in a weekly magazine. Also I'm a big history nerd, so having a part take place in the wild west made it much more enjoyable with the atmosphere. Like when it got to meeting Mountain Tim my inner fanboy was screaming. I don't feel like SBR is a complete story, considering Araki left questions about the origins of the story completely unanswered, such as: Also, I kinda don't like some other parts of the story, like Even worse was how Araki handled the ending, being like SBR is complete, everything else you want to know is just your personal wish. |
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hellcrane said: Non stop fighting is only appealing to children or creepy friendless people who think like them. Wait, did you join the site just to share this amazing piece of insight with us? Because THANK YOU for spending your precious time with us, if you did. |
hellcrane said: Phantom Blood's early parts, part VII and VIII were the only times I felt Jojo had any legitimate progression. That goes against any possible logic. |
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| I guess if I had to do the "Parts Ranking" thing, mine would be 3>4>2>5>7>1>6 And I mostly place 3 over 4 just because its artwork on the whole is better. Part 4 had that awkward transitional period where nearly all the guys go from buff to femmy, and the noses become increasingly more angular, but in a way that was really weird looking at first. @_@ |
| I think 6 (from what I've read) will end up being my favorite by the time I end it. The fights have been very consistently well done, I really like Pucci as a villain, and Jolyne is almost definitely my favorite protagonist in the series with my favorite Stand of all the Jojo's. I think one issue I have is that the supporting cast, aside from maybe Annasui and Hermes, aren't as good as 4's. Kira is probably still my favorite villain as well. Keep in mind I'm only at chapter 118, so who knows how things will turn here on out for me. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
hellcrane said: Non stop fighting is only appealing to children or creepy friendless people who think like them. Phantom Blood's early parts, part VII and VIII were the only times I felt Jojo had any legitimate progression. Always had clever fights of course, but that doesn't really express anything. Lol, if you say so, man. I'm surprised that you don't have Stone Ocean also on your list, since Jonathan and Jolyne are the only two Jojo's that I feel have strongly-defined character arcs - they both become entirely different people by the end of their adventures than they were at the very beginning, and you can really see and believe how they develop and change over time. It's just a shame that almost nothing else in their respective parts is actually superior to any others. |
fluffybunnyboy said: I guess if I had to do the "Parts Ranking" thing, mine would be 3>4>2>5>7>1>6 I think this is the first time I've seen someone post the exact same order I have. Although to be honest I have a hard time deciding whether or not it's really 3 or 4 I liked the most, both were incredible and miles above the rest for me. Although Kira was definitely my favorite part, I loved the entire thing and thought Akira's arc was great as well. His artwork is most appealing to me in 2-4, the more feminine looking stuff has never grown on me and I love the thick lines that define his early works. I've been planning on reading 4 again shortly. |
hellcrane said: Jotaro = pointless Dio has no link to him, only his blood. Sounds like you missed episode 3, and possibly the point of the journey to unfold. |
KellhusMay 6, 2014 11:43 AM
| @hellcrane: Jotaro is my least favorite JoJo, but saying he's pointless is just stupid. Also are you really saying he doesn't act as punk? Did you even read Part 3 dude? Dio's relationship is with every Joestar since they are the nemesis of Dio. Jonathan and Dio were just the triggers. Or should I remember you why Dio despises Joestar's bloodline? |
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hellcrane said: He never says anything interesting nah his one liners are pretty great |
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Malaria said: Badass. Friends of Justice too. |
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| Based Jotaro. I can't even remember the context of Akanezora's link. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Wow. I'm surprised to learn that some people don't like Jotaro or think he is lame and unlikable. It's only been 5 episodes but I definitely like him more than the previous two protagonists. I think he is charismatic and I like the stoic look. I do like his stern silent personality, with him being thoughtful, caring and kind heart'd in the inside. The character design, the poses, the voice actor, how every girl has a crush on him. I pretty much like everything about him so far. |
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| Well, I'm reasonably sure that Jotaro is one of the more popular "Jojo's". Personally, he's my third favorite after Jolyne and Josuke. Though, to add some context, the only protagonist I don't like is Jonathan. Though I'm kind of indifferent to Giorno, a certain teammate of his really overshadowed him, imo. But, yeah, tsudecimo I pretty much agree with you regarding Jotaro. edit: Also, I'm curious about what was Araki's favorite part to work on. I wonder if he ever said anything like this? |
Ston3_FreeN7May 6, 2014 2:03 PM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3Spectre said: Based Jotaro. I can't even remember the context of Akanezora's link. |
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| @tsudecimo It's good to hear some positive thoughts about Jotaro in light of all the negativity. He is probably my favorite character throughout the entire series. If you are enjoying him so far, you'll be happy to hear he only continues to get better and has many unforgettable moments. For fans of stoicism and badassery, Jotaro is surely the best. @insan3Spectre Well, there is this that shows Araki's favorite characters that hints towards part 4 being possibly being ⌜his favorite⌟, but it's also outdated being only up to part 5. |
| I think a truly great character is one that doesn't write manga for fame or money. And doesn't cheat while playing dice. |
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Kellhus said: fluffybunnyboy said: I guess if I had to do the "Parts Ranking" thing, mine would be 3>4>2>5>7>1>6 I think this is the first time I've seen someone post the exact same order I have. Although to be honest I have a hard time deciding whether or not it's really 3 or 4 I liked the most, both were incredible and miles above the rest for me. Although Kira was definitely my favorite part, I loved the entire thing and thought Akira's arc was great as well. His artwork is most appealing to me in 2-4, the more feminine looking stuff has never grown on me and I love the thick lines that define his early works. I've been planning on reading 4 again shortly. Agreed. I miss the old strongly inked style and the macho guys as well. When my mind thinks of what Jojo looks like, it always pictures parts 1-3 more often than it does 5-8. The feminine guys did grow on me, but if I could have the muscle men back again, I totally would. hellcrane said: I haven't read that far in the original universe and honestly that's more of an advertisement for me to do so than anything else you've said about the other parts. Like for all the anger you direct at aspects of it I don't give a fuck about, the one decent thing is a hugely important characteristic. Eh, I don't know that I would call it a strong advertisement for it purely as a story. It's just one unique thing that Stone Ocean does that most other Jojo parts don't. Stone Ocean is still mostly wall-to-wall monster of the week fighting like the parts that came immediately before it. insan3Spectre said: Though, to add some context, the only protagonist I don't like is Jonathan. I don't get how people can dislike Jonathan, either. The guy is so full of over-the-top 80's hot-bloodedness that it's hard for me to not love him. Practically every single memorable line he says is both electrifying and infinitely quotable. "NANI O SURU DA?!?! YURUSAN!!!" "SAKU DE WA NAI!!! YUUKI DA!!!" "BOKU NI WA TATAKAU RIYUU GA ARU!!!!" "FURUERU ZO HAATO!! MOETSUKIRU HODO HIITO!! KISAMU ZO, KETSUEKI NO BIITO!!! SANRAITO IEROO OOBAADORAIBUUU!!!!!!!" He's not the most well-written character, but I can remember more of his lines than I can with Giorno and Jolyne, so he does have that going for him. |
fluffybunnyboyMay 6, 2014 3:29 PM
tsudecimo said: Wow. I'm surprised to learn that some people don't like Jotaro or think he is lame and unlikable. It's only been 5 episodes but I definitely like him more than the previous two protagonists. I think he is charismatic and I like the stoic look. I do like his stern silent personality, with him being thoughtful, caring and kind heart'd in the inside. The character design, the poses, the voice actor, how every girl has a crush on him. I pretty much like everything about him so far. I actually used to agree with the majority for the most part, but the anime so far has me noticing more sides of his personality. So yeah, I'm with you on Jotaro now (still prefer Joseph though) I don't get how people can dislike Jonathan, either. The guy is so full of over-the-top 80's hot-bloodedness that it's hard for me to not love him. Practically every single memorable line he says is both electrifying and infinitely quotable. "NANI O SURU DA?!?! YURUSAN!!!" "SAKU DE WA NAI!!! YUUKI DA!!!" "BOKU NI WA TATAKAU RIYUU GA ARU!!!!" "FURUERU ZO HAATO!! MOETSUKIRU HODO HIITO!! KISAMU ZO, KETSUEKI NO BIITO!!! SANRAITO IEROO OOBAADORAIBUUU!!!!!!!" He's not the most well-written character, but I can remember more of his lines than I can with Giorno and Jolyne, so he does have that going for him. Pretty sure it has a lot to do with Joseph showing him up immediately with crazy street magic combat against crooked cops and a fabulous vampire |
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fluffybunnyboy said: "NANI O SURU DA?!?! YURUSAN!!!" "SAKU DE WA NAI!!! YUUKI DA!!!" "BOKU NI WA TATAKAU RIYUU GA ARU!!!!" "FURUERU ZO HAATO!! MOETSUKIRU HODO HIITO!! KISAMU ZO, KETSUEKI NO BIITO!!! SANRAITO IEROO OOBAADORAIBUUU!!!!!!!" He's not the most well-written character, but I can remember more of his lines than I can with Giorno and Jolyne, so he does have that going for him. That's the same for me but, I guess that's because I played him too much on ASB. |
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| I'm planning on giving Jojo 2012 a re-watch sometime, so maybe I'll develop a different opinion of Jonathan. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Poor Jonathan, nobody likes him. After reading some parts of manga (i am not up to 6-7 yet) i think Jonathan doesn't need to be ridiculous or original like how the other Jojos are. He is the first, the beginning; he has to bear the honour in some point. Yet he does. He is a gentleman, never hurts anyone unnecessarily, always finds lessons to learn (edit: accidentally clicked "post message", continuing). As i was saying, i haven't seen any gentleman Jojo like Jonathan. if i had a great great grandfather like him, no matter how many years passed, i would still fight for the sake of my Jojo blood. like caesar. And because of these things (and even more) even Dio respects him in some point, taking care of his body very carefully, tries not to hurt it unnecessarily etc. i am not loving him but he needs his own, very different place among all Jojos. |
UnderminEMay 6, 2014 11:01 PM
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fluffybunnyboy said: I don't get how people can dislike Jonathan, either. The guy is so full of over-the-top 80's hot-bloodedness that it's hard for me to not love him. Practically every single memorable line he says is both electrifying and infinitely quotable. "NANI O SURU DA?!?! YURUSAN!!!" "SAKU DE WA NAI!!! YUUKI DA!!!" "BOKU NI WA TATAKAU RIYUU GA ARU!!!!" "FURUERU ZO HAATO!! MOETSUKIRU HODO HIITO!! KISAMU ZO, KETSUEKI NO BIITO!!! SANRAITO IEROO OOBAADORAIBUUU!!!!!!!" He's not the most well-written character, but I can remember more of his lines than I can with Giorno and Jolyne, so he does have that going for him. Exactly this. I love his screams and lines. Especially the great Obaduraibu. His VA for the anime is pretty much spot on on what I imagined Jonathan would be. I also really like Jonathan. His bravery, honor, and gentleman attitude are what shines on him, and he may be a" cookie cutter" hero, but so far, in the animes I've watched anyway, he's the only protag that I've seen that, I hope, Araki did not try too hard to be more complex/emotional/meaningful. He's basically an enjoyable trope of the "hero". In this age of tragic backstory, more complex emotional heroes, Jonathan is a good throwback to the classic and more focused protagonist. And besides, like UnderminE said, he deserves a special place among the JoJos. He did start the "Countless Punches" that even the Joestar's Stands inherited. |
| Favorite Part: 4>6>2>1>7>3>5 (the part 8 must like second place for now for me) Main Antagonist: Kira>Dio(most the part 1)>Pucci>Valentine>Kars(not in last place since the anime)>Diavollo Jojo's Josuke>Jolyne>Jonathan>Joseph>Jotaro>Giorno>Johnny |
| I guess I could do this too Favourite Part: 4>7>6>2>3>5>1 Main Antagonist: Kira>Dio=Valentine>Pucci>Diavolo>Kars JoJos: Jolyne>Joseph>Josuke>Johnny>Gio>Jotaro=Johnathan (yeah I said it) I should start Part 8 already... |
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| To be perfectly honest I was never that crazy about Jonathan and (to a lesser extent) SC Jotaro. However after watching the anime version of PB my opinion of Jonathan did improve substantially, so I can foresee a similar situation happening with Jotaro in part 3. The voice actors so far have all done a top notch job and have really helped to bring the character's personalities to life. With all of that said I still think Jotaro is a much more complete character in the later arcs. Particularly DiU. Since some other people have posted theirs, I want to join in on the fun: Main Antagonists: Kira>Dio>Pucci>Valentine>Kars>Diavolo JoJo's: Jolyne>Joseph>Josuke>Johnny>Giorno>Jotaro>Jonathan |
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| I was thinking about it and I really can't think of how I would rank the Jojo leads. Jotaro is my favorite because I like those kind of characters and he is the most developed. Joseph is probably second for basically those same reasons. After that I just can't decide, I like them all seemingly equally. They all shine in their own way and are very memorable for me. I could maybe put Johnny last, he was kind of a dick and Gyro completely blew him out of the water. I heard Araki wanted to make a "flawed" character but I think he went a little overboard. For villains it's easier for some reason: Kira>Dio>Cars>Diavolo/Doppio>Valentine>Pucci I think Diavolo is underrated, I thought his reveal was even more intense than part 3 Dio and King Crimson is such an awesome Stand. He reminded me of Kira a bit with how he wasn't really out for world conquest or some grand scheme like the other villains, but just wanted to continue living life in his own way (although his intent and actions were highly condemnable). Also the stuff with Doppio and the phone calls was pretty funny. Although the character is possibly shrouded in a little too much mystery throughout the arc for his own good, so I can see how he is underwhelming to some. Pucci I thought was cool but for some reason he just never clicked in the story for me, I was more interested in the glimpses of Dio. He got plenty of spotlight but still just seemed whatever compared to how standout the other villains up to that point were. I didn't even know what to make of his insane plans. It wasn't until the final fight that I thought he started getting pretty cool, but it felt like too little by then. |
KellhusMay 9, 2014 5:02 AM
Kellhus said: I think Diavolo is underrated, I thought his reveal was even more intense than part 3 Dio and King Crimson is such an awesome Stand. He reminded me of Kira a bit with how he wasn't really out for world conquest or some grand scheme like the other villains, but just wanted to continue living life in his own way (although his intent and actions were highly condemnable). Also the stuff with Doppio and the phone calls was pretty funny. Although the character is possibly shrouded in a little too much mystery throughout the arc for his own good, so I can see how he is underwhelming to some. Pucci I thought was cool but for some reason he just never clicked in the story for me, I was more interested in the glimpses of Dio. He got plenty of spotlight but still just seemed whatever compared to how standout the other villains up to that point were. I didn't even know what to make of his insane plans. It wasn't until the final fight that I thought he started getting pretty cool, but it felt like too little by then. This is more or less exactly how I think about both of them. Most people didn't like Diavolo but I thought the On the other hand I never really cared much about Pucci. |
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