| The further into this series I get, and the more problems Guts has with his health, the more I think this is the most probable ending of the series. I just don't see him living contentedly with Caska into old age. In a way, I'm glad of this, because Berserk never struck me as a "happily ever after" story. At the same time, however, I sympathize with the character of Guts, and I want everything to work out well for him. Unfortunately, I just don't think he's going to survive this story. Obviously, I'm torn in how I feel about this. I'd be interested if anyone had a different opinion, or predicts a different outcome. |
| Yeah, he might die because of his health. I imagine he'll eventually overcome the problems of the Berserker's armor, but considering the countless battles he has fought (and will be fighting), the fact he's fighting apostles, and that he's only human...yeah, it's likely. I don't really know if he'd die in a fight, though I think it may be possible if he fights the God Hand. |
| well i think he will not sure tho A |
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| I hope he dies. In an epic way of course, right after he wins the day. Characters like him just shouldn't have happy endings...It would ruin the mood of the series completely. |
Baman said: I hope he dies. In an epic way of course, right after he wins the day. Characters like him just shouldn't have happy endings...It would ruin the mood of the series completely. agreed. go down fighting and take all the bastards down with you. well, at least leave Void for the Skull Knight :D. seriously though, its surprising that he was able to last this long. not only because of the toll the berserker armor is taking on his body, but even before that. in his days with the Hawks, he was on the brink of death multiple times. IMO, he will manage to take down Griffith and that will be his last act. that's easier said than done though because opposing Griffith means making the entire nation of Midland. at the end of the battle, Serpico, Farnese, Schierke, etc., will carry on his will and continue the war against the Angels. Reks said: well i think he will not sure tho get healed fully then almost get to the brink of death posibly use that behilt he has now that we know that there's an alternative way to become an Angel (Ganishka's plan), I guess that's a possibility. but then, wouldn't that make the purpose of the Berserker armor meaningless? |
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| yes very true all though i hope guts doesent resort to that |
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| I don't think Guts, as a character, would resort to using the Behelit. From the final bit in the manga before the big flashback (where the Duke is asked by God Hand to sacrifice his daughter), I got the impression that the only emotion that could wake a Behelit is a selfish desire to live. Guts doesn't have much of that desire, as far as I'm aware. His two big desires are to get revenge on Griffith, and to protect Casca. Neither of those would awaken the Behelit. Also, who would he sacrifice? It would have to be Casca, and I just don't see him being willing to do that. |
| I want that Caska will have her brain back and then she could be with Guts... Is this just because I'm a girl.... XD But yeah.. I can't see then getting old together... So Caska will be sad in the end because Guts dies... because of some injury... |
TheBigGSN5 said: I'm more worried about Miura dying. The story seems nowhere near done (10 volumes more wouldn't surprise me) and the release schedule for chapters is getting more spaced out. This is the 18th year of Berserk proper and if something happens to him without getting to finish his masterwork, I'm gonna be right pissed. Ganbare, Miura-sensei! Death to the Godhand! (not the game, which is very nice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhand ) You make it sound that his health is declining. I haven't found any info regarding that so if you have any, can you please post the source. |
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| I've always thought that both Guts and Caska will eventually end up dying in the process of defeating Griffith and the God Hand. Perhaps they will even leave behind a child for Schierke to raise or something. But rather than a conclusion, I'm more excited to see what happens in between now and then. I just gotta put my trust in Miura and hope he doesn't die suddenly before he manages to finish. Maybe I'll be in my 40's but you can bet I'll still be reading along (granted I live that long too, lol) |
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Hatake_Rina said: I want that Caska will have her brain back and then she could be with Guts... Is this just because I'm a girl.... XD But yeah.. I can't see then getting old together... So Caska will be sad in the end because Guts dies... because of some injury... I take it then, that as of the latest chapter, Casca is still a vegetable? |
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| RedSwordHeart said: I take it then, that as of the latest chapter, Casca is still a vegetable? Well, she's still acting like a child, not talking and doesn't seem to remember anything from before the eclipse. I don't think that makes her a vegetable, though. I think that term is reserved for people in comas. |
| I always figured that he will turn out like Skullknight and keep swinging his sword as an undead. |
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Arkhan said: I always figured that he will turn out like Skullknight and keep swinging his sword as an undead. I don`t think so... It would be totally not like Guts... |
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| very true guts wouldent do that although he might hit a big foirk in the road soon >.< if you remember back a few chapters |
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| Well I have only read up to volume 19 mostly because I buy the DH pockets when I can afford. Seems more satisfying when reading it on paper somehow. Also no idea where the scans are anyway. |
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honeybunch said: I don't think Guts, as a character, would resort to using the Behelit. From the final bit in the manga before the big flashback (where the Duke is asked by God Hand to sacrifice his daughter), I got the impression that the only emotion that could wake a Behelit is a selfish desire to live. Guts doesn't have much of that desire, as far as I'm aware. His two big desires are to get revenge on Griffith, and to protect Casca. Neither of those would awaken the Behelit. I'm pretty sure a desire of revenge would also have the ability to trigger the Behilit. And also he does consider using the behelit as a means of summoning the God Hand and then killing them all, so there's a possibility he could use it. lolester said: Arkhan said: I always figured that he will turn out like Skullknight and keep swinging his sword as an undead. I don`t think so... It would be totally not like Guts... From what Zodd said to the Skull Knight during the attack at the witches house, it's most likely if he continues to use the Berserker armor he will end up like the Skull Knight eventually, since the armor used to be worn by the Skull Knight. |
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| I think Guts is too proud to become like skull Knight.. But maybe... For Casca.. :) |
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| I doubt he'll be able to prevent it :P |
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| Guts is aging, His hair is starting to turn white He cant keep fighting the way he is forever His body gets brutalized so often Unless a Miracle happens like the Elf Kingdom completly regenerate his body, the treatment the 2 elves we have wont be enough |
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wuchild1 said: Wouldn't it be horrible if when its all said and done with, Caska is ok, Midland is the glorious country it was before the 100 year war, and Guts has defeated both Griffith/apostles and the God hand, only to use his Behilt to save Griffith? I could totally see him sacrificing himself for either Caska or Griffith in the end. There's no way he'd sacrifice himself for Griffith, in my opinion. This isn't a typical shounen story where enemies become allies, and the main character is infinitely forgiving. Griffith was responsible for killing almost all the people Guts was close to. He's the one who caused Guts to lose his eye and arm. He raped the woman Guts loved, and caused her mind to revert to a child-like state. If Guts forgives him at all, that will be the point where I stop reading this manga. Thankfully, I don't think that's very likely. I could see Guts sacrificing himself for Casca on the other hand, although I don't think that's going to happen either. If it happened, I don't think I'd like it much, but it wouldn't cause me to stop reading the manga. |
| Guts will never die, he will live forever in our hearts! lol also Guts is a legend... "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered but legends never die" |
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| The Sandlot.....excellent! |
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| guts death = RAGING PACK OF SQUIRRELS ATTACK HIM CUZ GUTS TOOK A NUT XD |
| I just finished the anime, and haven't read any of the manga. I have some questions for anyone who cares to answer. Why did Griffith rape Caska? Was it some sort of revenge against Guts? Also is there any hope of Griffith redeming himself? In the manga, does he just become a monster? In the end, I don't care who dies, but I'd like to see Griffith make a return to his old self. |
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| I could easily answer your questions, but I much rather you read the manga because spoiling it would be an outright crime. |
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| I started reading the manga, but it didn't appeal to me much. I don't like fairies and miss Griffith being a main character in the story. If you won't tell me what happens, could you refer the issue in which Guts and Griffith meet again? Do they ever discuss what happened at the sacrificial ceremony? |
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| you HAVE to read the first 3 volumes before you get to "The Golden Age" flashback chapter of the story which is what the anime is primarily based upon. If you don't read those first 3 volumes then you will understand even LESS about the Eclipse when you eventually get to it in the manga. There is a lot explained about the Behelit, how the God Hand operates, and how Apostles are created. It doesn't take long to get through those first 3 volumes and you will be rewarded greatly if you just stick it out. |
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| You really need to read the first 3 volumes, especially if you say you want to see Griffith. |
nickyp36 said: Ok guys these are the possible ways its going to turn out the right way. A. Caska some how gets her memories back and Guts forgets about his revenge trip over Griffith but as the love birds are living happily ever after Griffith calls to Caska in the night and Guts follows her secretly to a remote place and Griffith kills her. Guts than uses the Baliph (not spelled right) to take his revenge on Griffith as the epic battle unfolds Guts must face all of the Godshand killing all the high members until its Griffith vs. Guts and the kill each other with Guts saying why Griffith why have you forsaken me and Griffith with his last breath says ....... U figure it out. I think this is the most bad ass ending there could be B. Or the Guts finds out that the only way to unlock Caskas old memories is to kill Griffith but he knows he will surly die in the possess so Guts Berserks in there with every thing he has and kills Griffith with him dying in the process but Griffith dies first so Guts can say goodbye to his long lost love who has suddenly come back. C. Griffith trips over a rock and cracks his head open and dies so every one lives happily ever after. J.K. I truly wish guts could survive but its just not in this amazingly dark and gloomy masterpiece. My hart wants Guts to live on and be with the woman he loves but as a soldier he must have a soldiers death. Please give me your thoughts. B :) |
| It would be nice if all of them die... LOL ;] |
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| the only way to make a decent ending for a manga that has been publishing for so long is to kill so main character. But if Griffith doesnt die, I swear to god I'll... |
| Probably, Guts will die. But i hope he finds redemption in the end. I think he suffered enough. |
| Dunno if this has been said, but Guts may turn into the 'new skullknight' sort of person, to live for eternity. But that would be a Takahashi ending, now wouldn't it? |
| All men must die someday. Guts is no exception. |
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| The idea of Guts finally defeating Griffith being the only way he might restore Casca's withdrawn psyche is very interesting. On the other hand, Guts is going to need all the help he can get to take on Griffith and his entire army, so it might also be interesting if Casca were to regain herself and become violently enraged, finally feeling the crushing weight of her grief and anger at Griffith's betrayal... If she were to stand alongside Guts once more, I think I'd like that a lot more than just having her stay as she is. It's not like Guts insists upon relying only on himself at this point, anyway, since he seems to be slowly gathering a little band of his own. The only way he could really face Griffith without becoming an Angel himself would be to build an army willing to fight. It would be quite awesome, seeing Guts, Casca, Skull Knight, Serpico, Shierke, etc. all ready to go to war. Maybe even Rickert could join them — we haven't forgotten about him, have we? Guts will die some day, of course, but not until he's done what he must do. Now, we could stop speculating if Miura would just regain a bit of focus... |
| I actually think that the ending of Berserk is really predictable with the pretense that Miura keeps the same style throughout his work. A thing to consider is that even though the work is based off of fantasy and fiction, all of the actions of the characters, besides the monsters, are completely reasonable and attributable to human qualities. 1. Firstly, the Skull Knight has always been a ever-present character that looms in the background. Analyzing his story of roaming the world forever on a horse and trying to get Guts to fulfill his prophesy, we can conclude that the ending has something to do with either Guts replacing the skull knight as a sort of a protector against future God's Hands, or Guts being dead and the skull knight continuing to patrol the world on his horse. 2. Secondly, the relationship between the skull knight and the old witch in relative to the relationship between Guts and Schierke being parallel is too similar to be a coincidence; thus we can see that because the skull knight lost his partner, he can't possibly remain after Guts since a good story features parallelism. So we can concluded that Guts will replace the Skull knight in his job, and since Guts presumably survives, he will have settled his debt with Griffith; we will discuss how he settles the debt later. 3. But, since Guts had much calamity befallen upon him by Miura, we can also assume that Guts will replace the Skull knight with a terrible consequence from either his armor, or something terrible happening to his companions. Now, to discuss how Guts settles his debt with Griffith. This will be much harder to analyze than the ending of Guts because Miura toys with lives of people other than Guts in his work. By creating a perfect world, this does not mean Miura will be reluctant to destroy the utopia in fantasia. Therefore we cannot ignore the possibility that Guts kills Griffith and destroys the new world in some way. With this said, the props in the new world such as the Skeleton knight being trapped in a lower layer of hell, the spirit tree, and the omnipresence of Gut's son makes us want to believe that Guts will in some way seal the God's hand with these props and call Griffith to his senses, therefore giving a happy ending to everyone. We also know that this proposed happy ending can never happen because of the anecdote of the three short chapters right before Miura left off on c333, the way the flower fairy died despite Gut's attempt to save it. With that as a analysis of Miura's psychological tendencies, we see that Guts will have a less than happy ending with reasonable cause. Therefore the most reasonable outcome would be the banishment of the God's hands to the lowest level of the abyss with the sacrifice of the spirit tree and Gut's son (the son becomes a major character and attachment to the fan-base in between now and the ending); thus Guts never gets his revenge of killing Griffith. A final word: the quotes "she may not want the same thing as you do" gives 100% certainty that Casca will become sane for a short moment, then remain as dumb as a five year old for the rest of the story until the end. This should be easy to figure out. Since Casca underwent such a distressing psychological experience, she cannot logically return normal. If she did return normal, she would never return to the way she was in the Band of the Hawk and probably would sulk around all day. Think about it. |
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| I think Guts won't die unless he takes Grifith/Femto with him. Someppl say he might use the behelit but i doubt that since that would disregard Guts' character. He is always throwing fate out the window but he seriously needs a power up. That armor does as much damage as it helps. |
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