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| Come on. Why do you have to make it so obvious that Guren is the killer? Where's all the excitement? He knew that trap was a boy, he knew Kayo, he knew who to frame, he knew everything that the killer was supposed to know, and his name wasn't on the suspect list. Likable episode despite the above. Guess it's back to the past for Satoru, so this is where I expect something to justify this unusually high score happens. 4/5 |
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| Still can't figure out what it means when a character is shown with red eyes. The Killer, Kenya, Teacher, Kayo's Mother and her Boyfriend and now Sawada have all been shown with red eyes. I wonder if they're the ones who will be affected by the butterfly effect the most. |
AvaritiaFeb 12, 2016 5:59 PM
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| Do revivals only work when people die? It isn't really explained what condition has to be met to trigger it. As far as I know, Satoru only goes into a revival when someone dies. Child dies due to truck driver = Revival Mom dies due to killer = Revival If the trend continues then it seems likely that someone else must die before Satoru gets another one. Of course I don't know who that is. I don't think it's Airi, but maybe it could be Satoru's friend Jun who was said to be on death row in prison. |
| ever since episode 3 i think the culprit is the teacher...And now this....I hope its not true,it would be sad to be that predictAble |
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| If satoru didn't have time travels powers, this wouldn't even be considered a detective game. 4/5 |
| Already half journey (6 from 12 episodes) and it's only adapted 18 manga chapters (after it skipped early chapters in episode 1), there are more than half to go. |
when airi survive to fire. |
Lukas_sbFeb 12, 2016 9:03 AM
DaylightDream said: Do revivals only work when people die? It isn't really explained what condition has to be met to trigger it. As far as I know, Satoru only goes into a revival when someone dies. Child dies due to truck driver = Revival Mom dies due to killer = Revival If the trend continues then it seems likely that someone else must die before Satoru gets another one. Of course I don't know who that is. I don't think it's Airi, but maybe it could be Satoru's friend Jun who was said to be on death row in prison. I was thinking about something similar, but revival doesn't happens only when someone dies, but when something bad happens. Just remember when his mother first saw the culprit, when the were leaving the market. No one died there for him to have the revival. The bad thing was the kid being kidnapped, that triggered the revival, and when the culprit saw his mother, he left the kid and leaved. So, yes, probably something bad is going to happen in the next episode, since the butterfly appears right before the bad thing happens and the revival is triggered... |
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RyugamiKuroryu said: So, yes, probably something bad is going to happen in the next episode, since the butterfly appears right before the bad thing happens and the revival is triggered... I like it that the expectations are pretty high but the bad thing has already happened, i.e. he's gotten arrested. |
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| I really can't get over the fact that news reporter guy had an evil look when he was first introduced in the present. I honestly almost mistakened him for the killer because I saw the red eyes. But it was the reporter creepily sitting in his office. As if he had something up his sleeve and was planning something. Now it makes me pretty positive that the news reporter is either trolling Satoru for his own entertainment, or is cooperating with the killer. Either way, he can't be trusted. He must've purposely tried to mislead Satoru with the altered information on his computer. He's making it harder for Satoru by preventing him from accusing his teacher. I swear. That must be it and I should've noticed this earlier. I was super suspicious because he had been working on this case for SO LONG and then when Satoru's mom called about how she knew who the killer was, he didn't freaking give two craps about what she said. Later he's like "ohhh I should've asked her" to say in front of Satoru but honestly this manipulative liar probably already knows who the killer is. That, or he doesn't even care. |
EarlCielFeb 12, 2016 9:07 AM
shanimebib said: RyugamiKuroryu said: So, yes, probably something bad is going to happen in the next episode, since the butterfly appears right before the bad thing happens and the revival is triggered... I like it that the expectations are pretty high but the bad thing has already happened, i.e. he's gotten arrested. Yeah, that's a possibility... if that's so, the revival will probably take him back to the point that triggered his arrest, wich I think would be when he got Airi's call... Yep, if it's like that, we will not be seeing any Kayo next eppisode :P |
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EarlCiel said: I really can't get over the fact that news reporter guy had an evil look when he was first introduced in the present. I honestly almost mistakened him for the killer because I saw the red eyes. But it was the reporter creepily sitting in his office. As if he had something up his sleeve and was planning something. Now it makes me pretty positive that the news reporter is either trolling Satoru for his own entertainment, or is cooperating with the killer. Either way, he can't be trusted. He must've purposely tried to mislead Satoru with the altered information on his computer. He's making it harder for Satoru by preventing him from accusing his teacher. I swear. That must be it and I should've noticed this earlier. I was super suspicious because he had been working on this case for SO LONG and then when Satoru's mom called about how she knew who the killer was, he didn't freaking give two craps about what she said. Later he's like "ohhh I should've asked her" to say in front of Satoru but honestly this manipulative liar probably already knows who the killer is. That, or he doesn't even care. Almost my thoughts. (quote from the other thread below) shanimebib said: At this point, the anime has made it so obvious that this thread needs to be locked and made unavailable for future discussions. But let me throw in something else; what if the new guy is somehow involved? I have this gut feeling seeing how he was jumping to conclusions and even trying to direct Satoru to the obvious. Not to mention there is no way we can tell for sure that Satoru's mother never got to tell him the perpetrator's name. As a matter of fact, that she probably gave him a name away ultimately led to her being murdered. A partner in crime, perhaps? I am trying to grab a few hays here from a haystack of obvious. I mean we already know the identity of who the murderer is. When the wall showed it has "Impossible is Nothing" written on it, I seriously LOLed as if they are trying to impress. Honesty, just give us back the good old Kayo episodes. |
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animefan8800 said: Well at least Airi survived, but it looks like Satoru was arrested in the end afterall. To add a final insult he comes face to face with the gloating killer who framed him. Satoru desperately needs another chance to make things right... The cliffhanger at the end!! This show just makes me wanting more. Can't wait another week. HaXXspetten said: This anime really likes its epic cliffhangers of doom, doesn't it? Having to wait a week between every episode is pretty painful at this point.. |
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RyugamiKuroryu said: With they way Satoru was talking it seemed like he would never see Airi again or never meet her in the first place. Of course he could just be saying that because he's going to jail but it might have something to do with his next revival and how he changes history.shanimebib said: I like it that the expectations are pretty high but the bad thing has already happened, i.e. he's gotten arrested. Yeah, that's a possibility... if that's so, the revival will probably take him back to the point that triggered his arrest, wich I think would be when he got Airi's call... Yep, if it's like that, we will not be seeing any Kayo next eppisode :P |
Yes, I guess it would make sense for the killer to have a partner in crime, however it baffles me to think of a possible motive for him to cooperate. It's possible the reporter was cooperating to get rid of Satoru's mom anyways because he wanted her to disappear. Event though he acts like he admires Satoru's mom by even quoting what she says my suspicions are this dude must harvest some sort of hatred towards her. That would also be a possible explaination for why he is cooperating with the killer, and now trying to defer Satoru from finding the real killer. Because that would perhaps give away his part in the crime, or he's trying to protect himself. Even the manager seems to be cooperating in the crime to by feeding information to the police or by stalking Airi. I think the crimes are a lot bigger than the killer, and that people seem to be cooperating to gain their own "rewards" from the killer's actions. These are all speculations, but either way the reporter is feeding lies to Satoru, deferring him from the truth. |
EarlCielFeb 12, 2016 9:26 AM
DaylightDream said: RyugamiKuroryu said: With they way Satoru was talking it seemed like he would never see Airi again or never meet her in the first place. Of course he could just be saying that because he's going to jail but it might have something to do with his next revival and how he changes history.Yeah, that's a possibility... if that's so, the revival will probably take him back to the point that triggered his arrest, wich I think would be when he got Airi's call... Yep, if it's like that, we will not be seeing any Kayo next eppisode :P From the fragments of what shown in the anime, he doesn't have any control over his revival. So, his concerns with Airi are must be because he is heading to the jail. EarlCiel said: Yes, I guess it would make sense for the killer to have a partner in crime, however it baffles me to think of a possible motive for him to cooperate. It's possible the reporter was cooperating to get rid of Satoru's mom anyways because he wanted her to disappear. Event though he acts like he admires Satoru's mom by even quoting what she says my suspicions are this dude must harvest some sort of hatred towards her. That would also be a possible explaination for why he is cooperating with the killer, and now trying to defer Satoru from finding the real killer. Because that would perhaps give away his part in the crime, or he's trying to protect himself. Even the manager seems to be cooperating in the crime to by feeding information to the police or by stalking Airi. I think the crimes are a lot bigger than the killer, and that people seem to be cooperating to gain their own "rewards" from the killer's actions. These are all speculations, but either way the reporter is feeding lies to Satoru, deferring him from the truth. I am not too sure about the motives, that they would be convincing. Even Airi wanting to help Satoru because of the chocolate incident wasn't all too convincing, so I am hoping that there is more than that. At one point I even speculated that she is not 18, but of the same age as Satoru and most likely the girl who sat next to him in the class. |
shanimebibFeb 12, 2016 9:32 AM
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DaylightDream said: With they way Satoru was talking it seemed like he would never see Airi again or never meet her in the first place. Of course he could just be saying that because he's going to jail but it might have something to do with his next revival and how he changes history. He doesn't knows when a revival will happen, so he couldn't be saying it because he's meaning to not see her again... |
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| @shanimebib, @RyugamiKuroryu Well that certainly puts my heart at ease. I kind of have this theory that after Satoru finds the killers true identity and saves all of the victims he will erase himself from the timeline. One reason why I think of this is because of how Satoru views himself as the grim reaper that tries to rectify his mistakes. There must be a reason why Satoru, out of all the people in the world, has the ability to do revivals. |
| Well, it would be nice if he could use his rewind powers more consciously. Alright episode. |
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DaylightDream said: @shanimebib, @RyugamiKuroryu Well that certainly puts my heart at ease. I kind of have this theory that after Satoru finds the killers true identity and saves all of the victims he will erase himself from the timeline. One reason why I think of this is because of how Satoru views himself as the grim reaper that tries to rectify his mistakes. There must be a reason why Satoru, out of all the people in the world, has the ability to do revivals. That would justify the name of the story "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" to an extent so I would consider that possibility. RediceRyan said: Well, it would be nice if he could use his rewind powers more consciously. Alright episode. But that would make it more convenient than how it has been all too convenient so far. |
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| There's a point I've not seen anyone discussing yet: the killer had access to Jun's room. When Fujinuma is reading the investigation report, he reads a part where it says Jun had pedophilia related porn in his room. Then he remembers that there wasn't anything like that there before. It means that at some point the killer entered Jun's room and put it there. It makes me believe even more that some of the kids is related to this. Since the beginning I get a strange feeling from Kenya, the blonde boy, he have some important role in the plot that have not been shown yet. @Edit shanimebib said: DaylightDream said: @shanimebib, @RyugamiKuroryu Well that certainly puts my heart at ease. I kind of have this theory that after Satoru finds the killers true identity and saves all of the victims he will erase himself from the timeline. One reason why I think of this is because of how Satoru views himself as the grim reaper that tries to rectify his mistakes. There must be a reason why Satoru, out of all the people in the world, has the ability to do revivals. That would justify the name of the story "Boku dake ga Inai Machi" to an extent so I would consider that possibility. I think it'd only make sense for him to erase himself if the killings have something to do with him. Then it'd be understandable that he somehow got out of his childhood town to stop the killings from happening... but for now I don't see much logic in this, maybe with the future developments... |
RyugamiKuroryuFeb 12, 2016 9:59 AM
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EarlCiel said: Yes, I guess it would make sense for the killer to have a partner in crime, however it baffles me to think of a possible motive for him to cooperate. It's possible the reporter was cooperating to get rid of Satoru's mom anyways because he wanted her to disappear. Event though he acts like he admires Satoru's mom by even quoting what she says my suspicions are this dude must harvest some sort of hatred towards her. That would also be a possible explaination for why he is cooperating with the killer, and now trying to defer Satoru from finding the real killer. Because that would perhaps give away his part in the crime, or he's trying to protect himself. Even the manager seems to be cooperating in the crime to by feeding information to the police or by stalking Airi. I think the crimes are a lot bigger than the killer, and that people seem to be cooperating to gain their own "rewards" from the killer's actions. These are all speculations, but either way the reporter is feeding lies to Satoru, deferring him from the truth. Killer's motive is a mystery too. Reporter is definitely one of the "suspects" seen in the opening, along Kenya, Kayo's mom & her boyfriend and I guess the manager. Even though they may not be killers themselves, they may be piece of the puzzle. Manager knew the killer, it shown us as much. It's impossible to tell whether reporter lied about the killings or not, only information he revealed is that killer continue his killing spree in nearby town while managing to shift the blame to local weirdo (same as Yuuki's case). Everything shown so far suggest that Satoru is a local weirdo scapegoat for this time. |
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PalpableDespair5 said: It's almost confirmed that the Teacher is the murderer at this point for 3 reasons. 1.) His conversation with Satoru in regards to getting in contact with child services to help Hinazuki was at the very least, a partial lie(child services do not take nearly a year to act on a possible case of abuse). 2.) The teacher has nearly the same facial/bodily build as the murderer from what we've seen thus far. 3.) This episode confirmed that the murderer had to have known the detail of Hiromi being a boy. From the suspects shown at this point, the teacher is the most likely to know such a detail. I would like to add to this - the voice of the guy that was talking with the manager was most definitely the teacher's. It sounded deeper, because of age, but it was definitely his. |
Malise said: Killer's motive is a mystery too. Reporter is definitely one of the "suspects" seen in the opening, along Kenya, Kayo's mom & her boyfriend and I guess the manager. Even though they may not be killers themselves, they may be piece of the puzzle. Manager knew the killer, it shown us as much. It's impossible to tell whether reporter lied about the killings or not, only information he revealed is that killer continue his killing spree in nearby town while managing to shift the blame to local weirdo (same as Yuuki's case). Everything shown so far suggest that Satoru is a local weirdo scapegoat for this time. Lol, I was going to comment this part of the open right now :v It looks like there's some interesting things in the openning that I just noticed now. Like, had you guys noticed that the killer is shown in the openning? They first show Airi, Hinazuki and Satoru's mother individually with Satoru's images behind, then the three of them with Satoru behind, and then changes to a red shade with the killer behind. But the interesting thing isn't showing him, but the three that are shown. Kayo and Satoru's mother have been killed and Satoru is trying to save them now. So, what's Airi doing there? Maybe this means that she will become one of the killers victims... Oh, and now I've seen that after this scene they show Kayo, Satoru's mother and Airi's images, all of them covered with blood. After that it shows images of Satoru "fighting", scenes where he's trying to do something, probably meaning his struggle to save the three... |
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Malise said: Killer's motive is a mystery too. Reporter is definitely one of the "suspects" seen in the opening, along Kenya, Kayo's mom & her boyfriend and I guess the manager. Even though they may not be killers themselves, they may be piece of the puzzle. Manager knew the killer, it shown us as much. It's impossible to tell whether reporter lied about the killings or not, only information he revealed is that killer continue his killing spree in nearby town while managing to shift the blame to local weirdo (same as Yuuki's case). Everything shown so far suggest that Satoru is a local weirdo scapegoat for this time. Yeah, I like that metaphor you used with "pieces of a puzzle". There's definitely a very large complex image bigger than the killer himself. To solve the mystery behind the motive of the killer and evidence for proving the identity of the killer, Satoru must learn information from these individuals. I think that during his next revival a VERY important person to talk to for information is Kenya. I mean he peronsally talked to the teacher, who I think is the killer, multiple times. Either way he probably has very valuable input for the situation since he has a very keen eye and I'd imagine his speculations would be a great help to Satoru. |
| I still can't believe how amazed i am by this anime. With every new episode, i have goosebumps when something happens, i can't describe how great this anime is. It totally deserves to be one of the best. Airi is so great, she is the only girl that is helping him and believes in him, it may not look so much but for him it's the only support that he needs. She always tries to help him, she helped him all this time, Airi is so great. They are soo close to find the killer, very very close, i can't wait to see the last episodes! The "2 sided story" that they show, one is Satoru trying to save Hinazuki in his childhood and the other is Satoru finding the killer so he can prove that he is innocent and put that as***le in the jail! That ending, that fc*** ending! I was so happy to see it, that butterfly, i never was so happy to see a fu** butterfly xD I wonder if he will go back again in time to his childhood or he will simply go back so he can escape the cops? I'm still in high emotions after this episode. |
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EarlCiel said: Yeah, I like that metaphor you used with "pieces of a puzzle". There's definitely a very large complex image bigger than the killer himself. To solve the mystery behind the motive of the killer and evidence for proving the identity of the killer, Satoru must learn information from these individuals. I think that during his next revival a VERY important person to talk to for information is Kenya. I mean he peronsally talked to the teacher, who I think is the killer, multiple times. Either way he probably has very valuable input for the situation since he has a very keen eye and I'd imagine his speculations would be a great help to Satoru. Without reading spoilers, we however still don't know what happened to Kenya in this timeline, he might as well be a killer. Interestingly enough, teacher isn't shown in "suspect's censored footage" in the opening despite the fact he is considered a perpetrator. - The Manager actually actively supported killer motives, even though probably motivated by jealousy and obsession with the girl (Airi), rather than desire to end anyone's life. - Kayo's mother and her boyfriend took active part in the death of Kayo, at very least, they beaten her very badly and then threw her out, if not killed her straight away. - Reporter investigated the whole thing and regardless if he tried to help or foil the killer, he was very active in following the case and has been involved in the case since Kayo's death 18 years ago. He was last person Satoru's mother spoke to. He was also only one who was told that Sachiko (Satoru's mom, I had to stop writing this to find her name) known who was the killer. - What is the role Kenya took though? He did talked to the teacher - other people did took active role in the case. Btw, also, I keep thinking about the skating race - I still have impression this have some importance to the story! |
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Malise said: Interestingly enough, teacher isn't shown in "suspect's censored footage" in the opening despite the fact he is considered a perpetrator. Shown with Kayo's shit-mom from his back against her back. Also, psychopaths don't need any motives to kill. He is a serial killer. A psycho. |
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Malise said: - What is the role Kenya took though? He did talked to the teacher - other people did took active role in the case. Kenya, I think at least, is the eyes in this case. He's always the one in class that seems to observing what is happen and I think that what happened was he was probably the only kid (well...Satoru did but he was technically an adult in a kid's body at the time lol) who took the initiative to talk to the teacher about the abductions. If he had an active role, it is entirely possible that Kenya may have witnessed some suspicious behaviour from the teacher. That may be a far-fetched idea since the killer wouldn't be so silly to have a kid suspect him, but he could've slipped and Kenya is not your average child you can get away with slipping up to. My guess is that knowing Kenya, he probably didn't just talk to the teacher but asked questions, and talking to Kenya about whatever conversation they had would provide valuable information to Satoru. Also, it's great that you are keeping your options open in terms of identifying the killer, but I think that judging by the killer's age...(since his face was revealed...well part of it) he's far beyond Satoru's age. That's the biggest reason why I don't suspect Kenya as being the killer. |
| The episode started slow but the end made me just wow~. Truly Amazing. So glad Airi was saved and is safe. And Satoru was awesome when assuring Airi that he don't blame her for whatever happened. More clues about the killer. It seems the killer is unaware of revivals which now are gonna be crucial in proving Saturo's innocence/preventing Kayo and other's death. Changed my score to 9 for its continued brilliance. |
HijaziFeb 12, 2016 10:51 AM
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| Another great episode. Though it begs the question if the killer is who everyone and his uncle has spoiled him to be, why is it that Satoru does not recognize him? Plastic Surgery? And yes this anime made the one and only suspect very evident. |
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shanimebib said: Shown with Kayo's shit-mom from his back against her back. It isn't him. That's her "dad" (or rather boyfriend of Kayo's mother, I doubt he is biological father). You saw him in previous episode and even episode before that. He is one hell of the douche more interested in ice for his booze than Kayo's life. But teacher is completely different person. shanimebib said: Also, psychopaths don't need any motives to kill. He is a serial killer. A psycho. Psychopaths shows ack of remorse or guilt, impulsivity, the need for control, and predatory behaviour. They usually have some reasons for their action - even though normal person wouldn't kill for those. |
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EarlCiel said: Also, it's great that you are keeping your options open in terms of identifying the killer, but I think that judging by the killer's age...(since his face was revealed...well part of it) he's far beyond Satoru's age. That's the biggest reason why I don't suspect Kenya as being the killer. Well, Kenya is wise beyond his apparent age. Logic behind opening suggests his active involvement in the case. If Reporter didn't help killer and wasn't misleading Satoru on purpose, being "active" may involve "good guys". We however didn't seen him beyond the events of 1988 where he acted suspicious. He wasn't listed as a victim either. He is still shown as kid, so in time of active involvement in the case he was still the kid (or at least, looked the way). Next episode may reveal his role though. We didn't knew about the Reporter and I didn't recognized the managed before this episode. |
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Malise said: shanimebib said: Shown with Kayo's shit-mom from his back against her back. It isn't him. That's her "dad" (or rather boyfriend of Kayo's mother, I doubt he is biological father). You saw him in previous episode and even episode before that. He is one hell of the douche more interested in ice for his booze than Kayo's life. But teacher is completely different person. Kayo's shit-mom had a blonde-fag for a boyfriend. I am not sure whether you paid attention or just in denial. Malise said: shanimebib said: Also, psychopaths don't need any motives to kill. He is a serial killer. A psycho. Psychopaths shows lack of remorse or guilt, impulsivity, the need for control, and predatory behaviour. They usually have some reasons for their action - even though normal person wouldn't kill for those. You defined the qualities(?) of a psychopath. Motives are entirely different. Like hiding the truth, personal grudge, hate etc. So I am not sure what are you trying to imply here. |
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AivanK said: That ending, that fc*** ending! I was so happy to see it, that butterfly, i never was so happy to see a fu** butterfly xD Hahahaha, that gave me a good laugh. :D And Yes, That ending made the episode for me. The killer's apparent triumph smile [that he has won] and the glimps of hope for Satoru/us in the form of revival with the butterfly instigating it. Just great. |
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shanimebib said: Kayo's shit-mom had a blonde-fag for a boyfriend. I am not sure whether you paid attention or just in denial. Here's the picture - I took it he is Kayo's shit-mom boyfriend, teacher is much more slicked, but you may be right. I don't know really. shanimebib said: You defined the qualities(?) of a psychopath. Motives are entirely different. Like hiding the truth, personal grudge, hate etc. So I am not sure what are you trying to imply here. I don't know myself. I am merely trying to figure it out. It's detective story. It's usually good idea to think about motive in such cases |
MaliseFeb 12, 2016 11:14 AM
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| The freelancer journalist was creepy. The other kid that died, wasn't he one of Satoru's friends? How could he not remember that, or is that an effect of him changing the past? Ahh, I wonder if there would be more revival and trips to the past. |
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| Ok, I thought that was Kayo's stepfather too, but now that you say, it really isn't him ._. Not sure if it's the teacher, though, but does looks so. Wich reminds me of a scene that's not been explained yet. I think it was in the 2nd or 3rd episode, after Satoru speak with the teacher. In the end of that episode, the teacher appears talking with someone who seems to be Kayo's mother at school, but then the episode ends without showing what they were talking about. He was speaking about the abuses or was it about something else? |
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| I think its pretty weird that satoru would go to a public area to meet his mom's friend although he has no proof that he is innocent whatsoever |
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| I am now pretty certain that that manager is involved with this killer guy or possibly the killer himself or maybe the freelance journalist his mom knew but i doubt that awesome ep i think next week we will get another revival maybe so we wont really know whats going to happen to Sattouru for a while the cliffhangers man :'( why they do dis haha 4/5 |
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| [quote=Cejara message=44701512] Kaioshin_Sama said: I feel like someone is standing behind me screaming "GUILTY!" Besides what does some hype show I saw 4 years ago that I didn't really like the ending of have to do with anything. If MAL thinks I care much about its hype politics better think again. As far as I recall I never even brought it up so I'm not trying to tell anybody much of anything about it. Dude you are bashing the show and people that are genuinely enjoying it when it is a great show. Even if its decent which it would be to most viewers, you just seem to be bashing it for the sake of it being hyped. In fact, you are actively part of the hype as any others with opposite hype reactions as you -_-.[quote=TonyTheme message=44699454] Sokah said: The plane and his situation share no parallels. It isn't symbolic of his situation. Nor does the plane offer anything to the scene since his manga description is already symbolism. Dude, he was talking about Airi when he mentioned drawing people in and getting them hurt (which is why she mentions she's unhurt). Airi also specifically points out the story is meant to parallel Satoru's situation, which he confirms. Now you're outright dismissing dialogue? The point was he had a warped perspective because of his own hang ups. The plane not offering anything noteworthy to the scene, which I said myself, has nothing to do with the meaning of its inclusion. It wasn't really a necessary element to drive home the point, it was almost cheap. I'm stopping here because this is stupid. @ Tony Theme The inclusion of the plane scene is a direct parallel to Yuuki. He builds and makes planes and helps Satoru makes his planes better. Yuuki is also involved with younger kids, but not on a perverted level, but because he is a genuinely lonely and simple guy. He is a known lolicon though, but that was used to drive the stake further into him being guilty. What he is doing with the kids is actually innocent play and no perversion is show from it in the manga or anime. When Satoru helps the boys with the plane in the park in his scene, he is seen by adults as weird or something wrong is up. It draws a direct parallel to Yuuki. Also the fact that our MC is genuinely alone (even though some people are helping him). It just further parallels that the killer can make people to look the way he wants to them be viewed in Yuuki's scene even though they are innocent. Satoru helping the kids was a completely pure intention as well, the same with all his other actions, but the killer has framed him in a different way then Yuuki. I believe the scene to be completely necessary. The part where the adults were like that is weird was kind of annoying, but I get why they did it. They should have made the wording or dialogue between the 2 women better instead of coming off of 2 nosey hags that are up in people's business. If you think the plane comparison is dumb then it went completely over your head of the parallels they are trying to draw what happened in the late 80s with yuuki and what is happening now with Satoru. Complete isolation and being framed (both in different ways). Unrelated to the above posts: The chocolate thing still cracks me up. Like his wife must be a total bitch. Who would want her as a mom for divorcing their dad over chocolate that he didn't even steal... like really? You can't have more faith in your husband and also people make mistakes its not like she is miss perfect and probably did something equal to stealing a piece of chocolate. This theme always comes up in anime about Japanese freaking out about little things or always blaming the victim. It makes me think is this just a common plot device in anime or is the japanese just ass-backwards when it comes to this. They are suppposed to be a group-based culture that is very community driven, but some issues it seems they are culturally dissonant on when it comes to their culture or they just act plain stupid sometimes. I hope it really just is something that happens in anime, I would hate to think that for such an advanced culture they would really be that dumb to always fall for little things like this. So because I'm not parroting the same kind of thing over and over and don't just say only the most over the top positive things about it all the time I'm bashing it? Yeah this is a hype show and people need to gain some perspective already. Like literally here's the chain of events. I said that the director has a tendency to be wildly over the top with his portrayal of antagonists, particularly with there being little subtlety whatsoever when it comes to adults or telegraphing who the "bad guys" are to the viewer. Some random guy got mad at me for not giving Fate/Zero (again some show I saw 4 years ago that I don't give a damn how MAL thinks it's supposed to be put on some kind of pedestal or whatever) some arbitrarily higher score for whatever reason god only knows, and now I'm apparently bashing a show? What am I supposed to only praise the director and call him a flawless genius with every decision he makes or something otherwise I'm bashing? Do I need to leave only generic one liner comments like "ZOMG GREATEST ANIMU EVAR 10/10 SEE YOU NEXT WEEK GUYS CAN'T WAIT MY LIFE DEPENDS ON IT!" .....Makes no sense but you know MALlogic. |
PeacingOutFeb 12, 2016 12:00 PM
KorNk said: A-list_96 said: This series is very good but also overrated. Well, this is probably true, because the show is not as fast-paced as the majority of voters might think. Still, it's really good and original imo^^ IMO not really all that original or out there at all. It's the typical sort of teen oriented melodrama you get out of A-1 Pictures all the time (albeit with decent characters so far) only with a mystery twist that's IMO barely a mystery at this point. I'd go so far as to call it kind of bread and butter really. They just got done doing two other teen oriented melodramas even within the past year and one was even farmed out to P.A Works in Charlotte. Not as uncommon as people think. When I think kind of original or off the beaten path this season it'd be Shouwa Genroku Rakugo. After almost 2 decades of watching anime I can safely say I've never seen a show about that subject matter before, but I've certainly seen stories about time travel and save the poor potentially dying girls loads of times even within the last decade. |
| Holy shit this series keeps getting better imo. SOOOOOO GOOD! WHO THE HELL IS THE KILLER UGH |
| "If you don't love anyone, it'll make your life easier. But, I don't want to believe it's useless to love anyone" - Hikari Sakishima |
KorNk said: A-list_96 said: This series is very good but also overrated. Well, this is probably true, because the show is not as fast-paced as the majority of voters might think. Still, it's really good and original imo^^ True, i do find the pacing to be really inconsistent. |
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