arfmaster said: Slamdunk all day. I guess being a basketball fan helps? Woah woah woah, by saying that, people will counter you by saying'' kuroku no basket is about basketball too. So why slamdunk all day ? '' |
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Tommk said: Because Slam Dunk is about basketball, whereas Kuroko just uses basketball as a medium for its action.arfmaster said: Slamdunk all day. I guess being a basketball fan helps? Woah woah woah, by saying that, people will counter you by saying'' kuroku no basket is about basketball too. So why slamdunk all day ? '' |
| I enjoyed Kuroko no Basket a lot. And yes, it's definitely not the most realistic rendition of basketball, but that's actually what I liked about it. The games were pretty exciting to watch in my opinion. That's not saying I wouldn't like a realistic basketball anime. Can't wait for season 2 by the way. Because of KnB, I started watching Slam Dunk. I never heard of it before, but I saw it in the recommendations at KnB's page. I'm currently at episode 14, and I do enjoy this one too! Of course, the art cannot be compared to KnB, but it doesn't bother me, I like it. The humor in it is especially great haha I totally agree with Kolchao's post (#18) on the first page of this topic though, about comparing these two anime: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=524551&show=0#msg19965085 deniz1 said: I need appreciation for slam dunk also i need some people to bad mouth kuroko no baske. That's seriously f**king retarted. |
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| It's not like Slam Dunk is above reproach. Some of the humor is just so bad to the point where it gets annoying. Also it takes a looooong time for the MC to develop his skills to the point where he's not completely disappointing in every game. Now I kind of like that it's just that the anime fucking stops right when it's about to get good! If it weren't for that I would enjoy the fact that they went the slightly more realistic and satisfying route. But anyways I'm about to start slowly reading the manga so that's a good sign that it managed to hook me well enough. Oh and I like kuroko no basket so.... The more unrealistic it is the better, as long as the games are intense because of that. Now if you want to go the opposite route and actually watch and read realistic sports anime/manga go for some Adachi series instead. |
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| i like both ..but i enjoy slamdunk!manga more...read the sannoh vs shohoku game...it gave me goosbumps...an knb manga is juz yeah its normal for me but i enjoy it too..anime wise i prefer kuroko because those flashy skills got animated.. overall i still prefer slamdunk a lil bit more than knb |
LayedBack said: It's not like Slam Dunk is above reproach. Some of the humor is just so bad to the point where it gets annoying. Also it takes a looooong time for the MC to develop his skills to the point where he's not completely disappointing in every game. Now I kind of like that it's just that the anime fucking stops right when it's about to get good! If it weren't for that I would enjoy the fact that they went the slightly more realistic and satisfying route. But anyways I'm about to start slowly reading the manga so that's a good sign that it managed to hook me well enough. Oh and I like kuroko no basket so.... The more unrealistic it is the better, as long as the games are intense because of that. Now if you want to go the opposite route and actually watch and read realistic sports anime/manga go for some Adachi series instead. Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. |
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pokecenter said: It's the same thing with stories, characters, etc. Some people like them and others don't. Yes, comedy is a very polarizing thing but he can still think the comedy is not well done, comedy anime are not outside of criticism.Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. He already said that he likes it realistic and how it takes him a while. But what he doesn't like that I also don't like is how because the anime ends early, he never gets out of his beginner phase. So we don't get to see him play well and have any great moments. |
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IntroverTurtle said: pokecenter said: It's the same thing with stories, characters, etc. Some people like them and others don't. Yes, comedy is a very polarizing thing but he can still think the comedy is not well done, comedy anime are not outside of criticism.Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. He already said that he likes it realistic and how it takes him a while. But what he doesn't like that I also don't like is how because the anime ends early, he never gets out of his beginner phase. So we don't get to see him play well and have any great moments. I don't agree with that last sentence, we get to see him play well plenty of times. Not like Rukawa, but that's not surprising. Still despite all his mistakes and lack on fundamentals he got highlights in every important game. |
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pokecenter said: Those highlights are the only times that he plays decent. And you know that with the potential he showed early on, that's not all he can do. He still had more goof ups than good plays. Now that would have been fine, if he had eventually grown into a good player, but all we got to see was him as a beginner and then it cut off.I don't agree with that last sentence, we get to see him play well plenty of times. Not like Rukawa, but that's not surprising. Still despite all his mistakes and lack on fundamentals he got highlights in every important game. Natsu12345 said: It's best to compare realism between shows that try to have it. Obviously KnB isn't trying to be completely real, real =/= good. It's like saying a comedy anime can never be good because it doesn't make me cry like Clannad, they were trying to achieve different things from the first place. I can say KnB has better fantasy. And once again you're commenting on the whole quality of an anime you haven't even seen 6% of.I'll just leave it here, KnB is far more enjoyable than SD, but I know that SD has better story writing and better realism, even though I have yet to get past 6 episodes, and sadly, probably won't get to it anytime soon. and the main reason is not the art, I do watch Ranma 1/2 and stuff.. |
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IntroverTurtle said: I would also prefer the last arc to be seen in Anime, but can't be helped. Still even in that one (manga last arc) he is still a beginner. Talking about that..pokecenter said: Those highlights are the only times that he plays decent. And you know that with the potential he showed early on, that's not all he can do. He still had more goof ups than good plays. Now that would have been fine, if he had eventually grown into a good player, but all we got to see was him as a beginner and then it cut off.I don't agree with that last sentence, we get to see him play well plenty of times. Not like Rukawa, but that's not surprising. Still despite all his mistakes and lack on fundamentals he got highlights in every important game. DateYutaka said: SD got better Tv Rating that KnB could ever wish to get ..you sure? because i thought the reason why they didn't follow the Manga till the end was because the Anime didn't have TV ratings good enough, so they rushed it to end faster. I don't see KnB facing the same situation seeing how popular it is. So is there another reason (not related with ratings) why they didn't show us the last arc of the Manga in Anime or i'm wrong when i assume that KnB got good TV ratings? |
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| am sorry there is no room for comparison slam dunk brings the true spirit of basketball in the other hand kuroko ...i don't know i didn't feel the same waching it. sasga slam dunk |
| DateYutaka, i believe i got your point, but (assuming i did) that doesn't change the fact that Slam Dunk stopped due to low ratings, right? Japanese audience didn't care much about Basketball, that's one of the reasons, nothing to do with the quality of the show itself obvisouly. I realize by what you said that nowadays is much easier to be considered ''good'', but you also have more people watching Anime and more shows being aired, so maybe a 6.00 now is better than a 15.00 back then? I don't know, i love SD to death, but i believe that KnB is more popular and high regarded nowadays than SD was during the 90's. whitecrusader29 said: Kuroko no Basket Good Points: 1. Different Perspective The focus of slam dunk is obviously on sakuragi's rapid improvement towards being a good basketball player. His position is ultimately different and you can observe the difference in their priorities. Proof: Rebounding was so emphasized in Slamdunk but not that much in Kuroko no basket, what's prioritized in kuroko no basket is of course the passing ability of Kuroko as a guard. 2. Lessons Kuroko no basket has more values instilled in its episodes which was totally different from Slam Dunk. Playing as a team was emphasized and doing your best in everything you do. In slam dunk, the lessons aren't that much shown since most of the times, individual skills are being portrayed by the members not much about being a team. Doing your best value is not that much shown either as only Sakuragi works hard in practices as portrayed in the anime. It's always him who does the "hussle plays" which is different from Kuroko no basket since the latter shows the importance of each member as part of a team and each one does every little thing to win games. 3. Imaginative The skills of the generation of miracles is just incredible. It's fascinating to watch Kuroko no Basket as it takes your mind completely "out of the box". Proof: Have you seen any player score from anywhere on the court (more than half court) Maybe it's the reason why it's fun to watch the anime since you practically can't predict what will happen next except for the fact that they will win in the end. =) 4. Modern Basketball Kuroko no basket portrays the modern basketball which is what currently is happening as we can see alley-oops everytym, ankle breakers (which never happened in slamdunk) 1. That may be true, certainly is, it is about Sakuragi's improvement, but also the other characters. There's something i read before starting watching SD, some1 was saying ''The good about Slam Dunk is that even if you don't like the main character you could love one of the other team members! because everyone is so different and so unique!'' and i agree with that. I could perfectly hate Sakuragi but love Miyagi, or dislike Rukawa and like Akagi. What i mean is that while the 'perspective' of KnB is more about Kuroko and Kagami, in SD it is more evenly, all the main guys on the team can be equally loved and for different reasons (background story, personallity, skill, position). I feel that in KnB aside from Kuroko and Kagami, the other team members lack a bit of protagonism - or at least i would wish to see more - it is like they focus more on the other guys of Generation of Miracles, despite of us not knowing that much about them as well. But there are only have 25eps so far, so this could change anytime (and i hope it will). 2. You are also right about Kuroko lessons being much more about teamwork than in SD, but don't forget that many of the SD lessons are off-court, which is very important, not only gives you the feeling of being more real but also the relationships outside the court improve your efficiency while playing, so i find it very balanced and well done. 4. Actually here i disagree, i believe it is more the opposite, maybe for KnB being less close to reality, but SD seems closer to modern basketball. You see the importance of the fundamentals in SD thanks to Sakuragi and how the mood of the team affect their teamplay, the (dis)advantage of facing a taller opponent with Miyagi and the essence of fakes, how to rebound and keep your team together down on the court with Akagi, the way a shooting player should move to avoid his opponents and take the shot with Mitsui, the show-off and all-around moves from Rukawa. They translate very well the essential moves of basketball, and yes we also got to see alley-hoops, not forgetting that in their age that's not something you will manage to see often in a serious match (because if we are talking about how well each one makes it look like a real basketball game we also have to be mindful about their league/age). |
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pokecenter said: DateYutaka, i believe i got your point, but (assuming i did) that doesn't change the fact that Slam Dunk stopped due to low ratings, right? Japanese audience didn't care much about Basketball, that's one of the reasons, nothing to do with the quality of the show itself obvisouly. I realize by what you said that nowadays is much easier to be considered ''good'', but you also have more people watching Anime and more shows being aired, so maybe a 6.00 now is better than a 15.00 back then? I don't know, i love SD to death, but i believe that KnB is more popular and high regarded nowadays than SD was during the 90's. whitecrusader29 said: Kuroko no Basket Good Points: 1. Different Perspective The focus of slam dunk is obviously on sakuragi's rapid improvement towards being a good basketball player. His position is ultimately different and you can observe the difference in their priorities. Proof: Rebounding was so emphasized in Slamdunk but not that much in Kuroko no basket, what's prioritized in kuroko no basket is of course the passing ability of Kuroko as a guard. 2. Lessons Kuroko no basket has more values instilled in its episodes which was totally different from Slam Dunk. Playing as a team was emphasized and doing your best in everything you do. In slam dunk, the lessons aren't that much shown since most of the times, individual skills are being portrayed by the members not much about being a team. Doing your best value is not that much shown either as only Sakuragi works hard in practices as portrayed in the anime. It's always him who does the "hussle plays" which is different from Kuroko no basket since the latter shows the importance of each member as part of a team and each one does every little thing to win games. 3. Imaginative The skills of the generation of miracles is just incredible. It's fascinating to watch Kuroko no Basket as it takes your mind completely "out of the box". Proof: Have you seen any player score from anywhere on the court (more than half court) Maybe it's the reason why it's fun to watch the anime since you practically can't predict what will happen next except for the fact that they will win in the end. =) 4. Modern Basketball Kuroko no basket portrays the modern basketball which is what currently is happening as we can see alley-oops everytym, ankle breakers (which never happened in slamdunk) 1. That may be true, certainly is, it is about Sakuragi's improvement, but also the other characters. There's something i read before starting watching SD, some1 was saying ''The good about Slam Dunk is that even if you don't like the main character you could love one of the other team members! because everyone is so different and so unique!'' and i agree with that. I could perfectly hate Sakuragi but love Miyagi, or dislike Rukawa and like Akagi. What i mean is that while the 'perspective' of KnB is more about Kuroko and Kagami, in SD it is more evenly, all the main guys on the team can be equally loved and for different reasons (background story, personallity, skill, position). I feel that in KnB aside from Kuroko and Kagami, the other team members lack a bit of protagonism - or at least i would wish to see more - it is like they focus more on the other guys of Generation of Miracles, despite of us not knowing that much about them as well. But there are only have 25eps so far, so this could change anytime (and i hope it will). 2. You are also right about Kuroko lessons being much more about teamwork than in SD, but don't forget that many of the SD lessons are off-court, which is very important, not only gives you the feeling of being more real but also the relationships outside the court improve your efficiency while playing, so i find it very balanced and well done. 4. Actually here i disagree, i believe it is more the opposite, maybe for KnB being less close to reality, but SD seems closer to modern basketball. You see the importance of the fundamentals in SD thanks to Sakuragi and how the mood of the team affect their teamplay, the (dis)advantage of facing a taller opponent with Miyagi and the essence of fakes, how to rebound and keep your team together down on the court with Akagi, the way a shooting player should move to avoid his opponents and take the shot with Mitsui, the show-off and all-around moves from Rukawa. They translate very well the essential moves of basketball, and yes we also got to see alley-hoops, not forgetting that in their age that's not something you will manage to see often in a serious match (because if we are talking about how well each one makes it look like a real basketball game we also have to be mindful about their league/age). Have to agree with you on the SD points Pokecenter. SD truly breaks down a wide variety of modern basketball plays, calls and techniques with actually incorporating those fundamentals into the games Shohoku plays. I also enjoy watching Kuroko no Basket, but it beings an unrealistic feel at times which may be enjoyable at times, but sometimes are pushing it too much. |
| I finally gave SD a try after reading some comments in this topic. I has seen Kuroko no Basket before Slam dunk. Sadly but it's true. But what i think is that if i had seen SD before KnB i don't think i would have had even finished the KnB series or at least rated it so high. Kuroko as a character is awesome, but i dont like that the red-heads have similar abilities. (If you know what i mean) SD pacing was terrible in anime (except the close fights before the ending game, and hilarious parts of their daily lives - i loved those a lot!), KnB pacing is better, yet, there is no backstory to the characters which is sad and makes the series plain. If i were to compare manga, i'd say SD is better, i really loved the artstyle and the more realistic plays. |
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| Slam Dunk focuses more on basketball, while KnB focuses on the characters. Slam Dunk is like marketed for everyone who's into sports, while KnB is like marketed for female audience. That explains the emergence of KnB yaoi fandom. But anywho, I think both are good but I still prefer Slam Dunk. |
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Zeppen said: while KnB is like marketed for female audience. That is simply not true. |
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tsudecimo said: Zeppen said: while KnB is like marketed for female audience. That is simply not true. It is... |
Ownsin said: It is what? It's in a shounen magazine and therefore targeted towards shounen(s) or 10 - 18 year old boys. Who it appeals to though can be different than who it's targeted to but that does not mean that it's targeted towards them.tsudecimo said: Zeppen said: while KnB is like marketed for female audience. That is simply not true. It is... |
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| As of right now, I'm on ep 11 of Slam Dunk, and fully caught up to the KnB manga.I like both, but I like Slam Dunk more too. Not to say that KnB can't have its moments where it can match up to Slam Dunk, like Aomine Vs. Kise, but Slam Dunk is overall better. While KnB DOES have better games for me at least, I like Slam Dunk's characters more, for the most part. And about realism.....it doesn't really bother me. I've read online that most swords shatter after being smashed against another sword, but I see characters all the time fighting with swords taking dozen of blows and not shattering. But in both cases of KnB and sword-fighting, making it unrealistic actually makes it more enjoyable. |
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| Personally, Slam Dunk the manga is better than the anime. Far better. Okay fine, the anime did give us this overused yet insanely appropriate song for Shohoku last match. AMV, AMV everywhere. |
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| Q: Comparing Slam Dunk with Kuroko Baske. Is it BLASPHEMY? A: It is BLASPHEMY(to me)! Slam Dunk is much better(to me). To each his own. |
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| I really enjoyed Kuroko back when I watched the 1st season and read all the chapters afterwards, but after reading/watching all of Slam Dunk, its an absolute masterpiece. While sadly Kuroko is getting worst as it goes on, getting more and more ridiculous/outlandish in its portrayal of the games let alone the skills. It's getting on my nerves these days honestly. I was starting to sweat reading the last 15 chapters of Slam Dunk, they were that phenomenally enjoyable. Reading Slam Dunk also made me realize some major points it destroys Kuroko in. While Kuroko has some good characters, Slam Dunk blows it away. The entire central cast of Slam Dunk is many times more memorable and interesting then most of the cast of Kuroko. The antagonists are also far better, they aren't a bunch of annoying douches (there are a few but barely) and you will likely even like many of them (Uozumi, Sendoh, Maki). While Kuroko... I downright hate some of the antagonists to a bitter degree. And I can't even think of one I like, Kise probably the closest. In some ways they are so different its unfair to compare them I admit, but I think the increasingly outlandish and often poor characterization of Kuroko make it weak compared. |
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| Was I the only one thinking that ethese arguments are almost the as the arguements between call of duty and battlefield; realism? I prefer KnB as I like to dream... |
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exp_phantasy said: Was I the only one thinking that ethese arguments are almost the as the arguements between call of duty and battlefield; realism? I prefer KnB as I like to dream... Lol if you are going to lie at least add Slam Dunk to your MAL to make it believable. Another person who has never watched or read Slam Dunk,gj. |
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LuciferIAm said: exp_phantasy said: Was I the only one thinking that ethese arguments are almost the as the arguements between call of duty and battlefield; realism? I prefer KnB as I like to dream... Lol if you are going to lie at least add Slam Dunk to your MAL to make it believable. Another person who has never watched or read Slam Dunk,gj. Lie about what? He saying that this same argument of realism between Battlefield ( which is Slam dunk in this analogy ergo he is calling it realistic) and call of duty (KnB ergo calling it unrealistic ''I like to dream'') |
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tsudecimo said: LuciferIAm said: exp_phantasy said: Was I the only one thinking that ethese arguments are almost the as the arguements between call of duty and battlefield; realism? I prefer KnB as I like to dream... Lol if you are going to lie at least add Slam Dunk to your MAL to make it believable. Another person who has never watched or read Slam Dunk,gj. Lie about what? He saying that this same argument of realism between Battlefield ( which is Slam dunk in this analogy ergo he is calling it realistic) and call of duty (KnB ergo calling it unrealistic ''I like to dream'') He hasn't even seen Slam Dunk... that was the point... Secondly many people talk about the characters more then realism and the characters in Slam Dunk are leagues above the largely irritating cast in Kuroko. |
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| ? You don't need to watch Slam Dunk to know that it's more realistic in terms of basketball compared to KnB. What was the lie? How is that even relevant here? |
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tsudecimo said: ? You don't need to watch Slam Dunk to know that it's more realistic in terms of basketball compared to KnB. What was the lie? How is that even relevant here? How can you 'prefer' something legitimately when you haven't even tried the other part of the conversation? I really don't know how to be more clear. What's he even doing here? |
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| I watched kuroko no basuke and really liked it, I am currently reading slam dunk and find it amazing, I like the story. In my opinion as in me liking I would say they are both on par basically, but with how "real" kuroko no basuke is, there is clearly some fabrication, but im not a basket ball fanatic so I have no quarry with that issue. Overall they are both really good. |
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