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Gilgamesh said: ssjokg said: Cutting content by itself isnt bad pacing. Bad pacing is not explaining what is going or going from one event to the other without explanations. We know hat is happening here. Being anticlimactic or not doesnt change the pacing. You want bad pacing?Look at Index III. No clue where this narrow definition is coming from. Bad pacing means show poorly implements how it conveys events. Moving too fast that the occurrences in an episode fail to leave a lasting impact, is exactly what bad pacing is. Benkei getting omitted was showing him make up for his awful display earlier own. It greatly hurts his subplot when a defender of the people, is not shown doing so. Kingu is just a cringy mess now because the anime failed to go in depth with how he overreacts to things in steps. Just going from Point A to Point F. ETC. People felt the impact so I have no idea about who you are talking about. Gonna ignore Benkei because, who cares?What the Lahmu do is more important and Kingu is fine. |
Idolmonster said: HAHAHAHAHA, classic CloverWorks. This whole mess looks EXACTLY like Darling in the Franxx. Alien creatures appear out of nowhere, the show turns to incomprehensible shit. (and I quite like this, but I assume lots of other people are gonna hate it) Lmao, this site is hilarious (as always). Pretending like CW has something to do with FGO's plot.. I can't even take this seriously. They are giving blood to this adaptation, trying to animate everything as us fans deserve and then someone just says "classic CloverWorks". And the "alien" part is beautiful, some research about who Tiamat is would be nice, I mean, the anime says everything u need to know so I don't really know how the hell do u came with Aliens. |
KaiserFGOJan 25, 2020 3:19 PM
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| Now the real Babylonia story begins this part of the story is going to be good^^ can't wait for tiamat fight |
| Battle of Gorgon was over pretty quickly, looked nice, not so happy with the outcome though. I was ready to lose Ana in this episode, but damn Merlin as well... Now I understand what people said in the first cour about the plot twists in the second half.... Siduri as well? Main cast feels like it got stripped in half.. Those "new humans" (Lahmu) reminded me so much of Ainz Ooal Gown's Goats, those mouths were just creepy as fuck! It was quite a massacre this episode :( |
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| "-Oh well, I'm gonna save the main characters which are my 100% ennemies from my allies because they look like ugly mouth vaginas spiders so I kill them ! -Ah ! Ah ! Don't try to change my mind main characters, I'm the ally of those hideous vagina mouth spiders ! *Gets stabbed by said monsters* -OH NOOOOOO ! I didn't expected to be betrayed by those vagina mouth spiders I've also betrayed seconds ago by killing a bunch of them even though I said I'm their ally" Can you be even more stupid than that Kingu ? You're really in despair I know but stop doing stupid decisions. Anyway Ana is goat I'll miss her as I will for Merlin even if he died out of nowhere and for no explained reason (as for now or someone is going to tell me I'm wrong with Fate lore 101). |
James-LastOmnic said: "-Oh well, I'm gonna save the main characters which are my 100% ennemies from my allies because they look like ugly mouth vaginas spiders so I kill them ! -Ah ! Ah ! Don't try to change my mind main characters, I'm the ally of those hideous vagina mouth spiders ! *Gets stabbed by said monsters* -OH NOOOOOO ! I didn't expected to be betrayed by those vagina mouth spiders I've also betrayed seconds ago by killing a bunch of them even though I said I'm their ally" Can you be even more stupid than that Kingu ? You're really in despair I know but stop doing stupid decisions. To be fair to Kingu, he used to slaughter the shit out of the Demonic Beasts (like you can see in the first episode) and they never retaliated. He probably seemed to think the same of the Lahmu and he paid for it. |
machetevuoi said: p3rf3c7ch405 said: and the Siduri part still haunts me to this day in the game. you basically nearly kill her while she's literally waving the white flag ;____; so she really is that thing...was really hoping not even tho it was clear at that point yeah iirc the little flashback of siduri was when she learned what waving the white flag meant and that combined with the fact both Fujimaru and Ishtar sadly choose to ignore her as a threat make it obvious in that context. in the game it's like mash and ur servants attack her til she nearly dead while she just stands there waving her arms so it actually makes you feel even worse tbh but the show did it fine too. really even here it's heartbreaking esp since even after the transformation she keeps her own will and refuses to give into the demonic beast instinct and attack/kill ppl ;~; |
time for some cursed imagery  also thicc snake ass that not a single person asked for  cloverwork plz your fetish is showing |
| So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
| I just want to say that |
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| lots and lots of Nyarlathotep coming from Mother Azathoth |
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| They handled the Lahmus perfectly but they rushed it so much for no reason. |
| Well this is where the fun begins... Hearing the lahmu's have a voice instead of some text in a phone game is a 100x more disturbing... Anyways the Ana vs Gorgon section was handled very well imo, liked the remix of the gorgon theme. Had the chills throughout the entire ep, been waiting for this moment for quite awhile. As always can't wait for the next ep and the others to come. |
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| Damn this episode really did make me cry. I thought I could hold down the tears. Held on when Ana sacrificed herself for the better of her loved ones even though she couldn't go against her fate. Held on even when the people lost hope when all they did was believe in the gods that would protect them. But damn it, when Gilgamesh ordered his people to choose to flee and live or stay and die for the nation, I just couldn't hold it anymore. The path of a king is always a lonely one. And what happened to Siduri was the heartbreaker. |
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| The show has been fun but I hate how convenient everything happens. Bad guys keep becoming allies or conveniently dying. Oh no these new monsters are gonna kill the good guys! Oh wait, Kingu, an enemy just saved the day! Oh wait, he just wants to command them. Oh Wait, they turned on him. Now what? Is he going to become an Allie or just conveniently die? I'm disappointed. If the game is anything like this then I won't be playing it. |
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| At this point this show can do anything but I still won't be pleased. 2/5 |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| The laughter of the Lahmu reminds me of the COD Zombies' laughter. FETCH ME THEIR SOULS |
| Don't question my antics. |
Aure0lin said: I never picked up on that detail with Gilgamesh. Very interestingIdolmonster said: this was literally how it went down in the game. there's a complete tonal shift and everyone who wasn't aware of enkidu's plan is getting their minds blown.Same studio. It doesn't matter that FGO originates from its own source material - the way CloverWorks depicted chaotic atmosphere in this episode is entirely similar to episode 21 of Franxx. Characters are confused, viewers are confused, the tone shifts drastically and some weird creatures attack everybody around them. also remember way back in ep 5 when gilgamesh took a trip to the sea? that was him checking to make sure tiamat was still asleep with his own eyes. |
| Am I the only one who thinks those creatures resembles the bugs from Starship Troopers. I need someone else’s opinion |
| Woah that took a quick turn ppl dying left & right first Ana Merlin and Siduri. Those Lahmu are so creepy. |
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| Ana :( Merlin :( but surprisingly, and most importantly Siduri :( ... I did not expect for her to hit this hard. |
| ok like ...these new thing are actually humans huh |
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Terminator19708 said: i can see the resemblance but they were really based off of the beta from muv luvAm I the only one who thinks those creatures resembles the bugs from Starship Troopers. I need someone else’s opinion |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
Idolmonster said: HAHAHAHAHA, classic CloverWorks. This whole mess looks EXACTLY like Darling in the Franxx. Alien creatures appear out of nowhere, the show turns to incomprehensible shit. (and I quite like this, but I assume lots of other people are gonna hate it) Lmao I think this is actually the moment this anime turns great cuz the earlier part feels like some picnic party which mc just talk his way to victory. After this episode, it finally becomes much more "Fate-like" which I am glad. Also this plot is from the game's plot , not Cloverwork's original plot. Also I have a feeling many people will get revived later on because of the underworld goddess. She would probably collect all the souls and keep them safe , and return them to proper place after the crisis is over. As far as I know most of those people didn't get eaten, and they only have their body damaged. Anyway , these new "creatures", for once in a very long time, actually makes me shiver and have cold goosebump in an anime, simply because of the voice acting. Bravo to the voice actor who did this, especially those creepy laugh which chill my bones. |
Ventus_SJan 25, 2020 10:24 PM
 Remember that he meant it. LITERALLY. |
ToiletPaperRoll said: Ye, what the fuck is even happening. This show is a mess, they throw weird names left and right as if we're supposed to understand it. If it's just two guys not understanding what is happening then the problem isnt with the show. |
DeathfireD said: The show has been fun but I hate how convenient everything happens. Bad guys keep becoming allies or conveniently dying. Oh no these new monsters are gonna kill the good guys! Oh wait, Kingu, an enemy just saved the day! Oh wait, he just wants to command them. Oh Wait, they turned on him. Now what? Is he going to become an Allie or just conveniently die? I'm disappointed. If the game is anything like this then I won't be playing it. I mean, they've been building the characterization of those characters for 14 episodes now. There's nothing really convenient, everyone is acting according to their own beliefs. Ishtar got swayed by her greed and it helps that her human vessel was good-natured. Eresh always had the good of humanity as her priority, her way was just twisted, a fitting of the goddess of the underworld Quetz is the same as Eresh. She's literally a goddess of good deeds. There's no way she'd allow herself to go against her purpose for existing in the first place. About Kingu, he was shown that he still not only has Enkidu's memories, he still retains his personality. This was shown when he let human children go in episode 8. In that same episode, he said that he's the prototype of the new humanity. The new humanity that supposed to be a higher form of being, above the pettiness and the pointless whims of the old humanity. Instead, they proved to be even lower than that. There's no intelligence purpose to their killing. Unlike Kingu who killed for a goal, they killed for enjoyment. To him, they were like wild stupid beasts who thought nothing but how to satiate their carnal desires So he had to step in. First, he stopped their unsightly behaviour, as he saw it, and then attempted to take control of them. And he didn't really "save" the good guys. The good guys had literally two goddesses on their side. They didn't need saving. What Kingu did was an attempt to take control of the Lahmu and have them obey him as his siblings, not mindlessly follow their beastly nature. |
astroprogsJan 26, 2020 3:28 AM
| Can't help but to compare Overlord III ep 13 vs FGO EP 15 ... and yes fate destroys overlords "dark young" in how creepy they are, you actually see people in panic, crying, etc |
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| Man...this went all the way in with the gore and Quetz is my MVP. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
ssjokg said: Yeah, this is 3smart5me. ToiletPaperRoll said: Ye, what the fuck is even happening. This show is a mess, they throw weird names left and right as if we're supposed to understand it. If it's just two guys not understanding what is happening then the problem isnt with the show. The writing is so awful and convenient. Even Apocrypha was better than this imo. |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| Thanks for all the explanations guys. The pacing for the episode make a lot more sense now. I would rewatch this episode but the Lahmus are too creepy for me to do so. |
| For those interested, there is a way to translate what the Lahmus are saying (like in the game there was a trick to their speech) https://twitter.com/ZerovsNight/status/1221242270650978312 They're pretty much saying the same things as in the game, but the context is way more horrifying imho. Like, a sprite saying "How do they move? Oh, now I understand" with bloodsprays on screen is nowhere nearly as horrid as that thing ripping a man's leg apart while saying the same thing |
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cchigu said: ssjokg said: Yeah, this is 3smart5me. If it's just two guys not understanding what is happening then the problem isnt with the show. The writing is so awful and convenient. Even Apocrypha was better than this imo. It isnt smart at all. You two are just extremely dumb. |
| I felt like scenes were lacking some impact in the episode, but seeing Euryale and Stheno in the beginning was just beautiful.. I still enjoyed the episode and Lahmu are looking incredibly nasty as expected. I hope they take their time a little more on the next developments. |
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| Like with the game at this point of the story, the pacing does feel quicker now, but that's not a bad thing at all. People really shouldn't jump to conclusions about the story being "rushed" before taking a step back to see things a bit more clearly. Anyway, the fight against Gorgon was quick, but damn satisfying, although seeing Ana sacrificing herself was sad. However, defeating Gorgon meant that things have gone according to plan for Kingu and Merlin paid the price for his mistake. =( To add to the tension, the new "humans", the Lahmu, look and sounds even more disturbing here than in the game itself. Half on them are animated in CGI, but it's actually pretty well done and it doesn't brake the immersion for me at all. =) However, one of them was sadly Siduri. So we've lost Ana, Merlin and Siduri all in one episode. Not only that, but the Lahmu back-stabbed Kingu, then ended the episode with such a twisted laugh. Not the sort of thing I want to hear if I watched this episode late at night. ^^; |
| This episode was a bit too violent, it was disturbing seeing the innocent people suffering like that, they have been portrayed as beautiful and kind in the civilization of Uruk and they deserve to live with benevolence. |
| These new humans are creepy as fuck. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
transphinx said: lots and lots of Nyarlathotep coming from Mother Azathoth Lovecraft stuff is unrelated to that in FGO, they are just filler to pump out more cute 'evil' girls in the gacha. |
| Jesus christ, those Lahmu monsters were creepy af. Really disturbing... I wonder what's going to happen next. |
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redcobra said: LMAO many people not ready for dark turn here. And saying other bait crap comment thing and don't know the actual source material. People are not ready for the dark turn for good reason. For the first half of this show is like some harem picnic party. The way mc interact/ recruit Goddesses are too comedic and irrational. All mc does is talk his way to victory and didn't do much. Every Goddesses act like some 15 year old tsundere who got easily flatteed by a teenage boy saying pretty words. The tiger goddess part even further break the immersion of the whole anime due to how comedically she's portrayed despite his immense power. The show really didn't prepare you for this dark turn due to how everything is so lala land and no-one dies in the first half. (Except with the Gorgon encounter). But nonetheless I'm much more intrigued with this show after ep 15. |
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