| This week’s video is probably my best so far. Just pushing back on some common complaints about Mushoku Tensei. Tried out Premiere Pro for the first time and I hope y’all like how it turned out! https://youtu.be/X5Ca1yJ40ak |
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| just watched your video. I think you made some great points, some that even I haven't heard before. Mushoku tensei is one of my favorite shows. Keep up the good work bro! You earned a sub |
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ColorZero0 said: just watched your video. I think you made some great points, some that even I haven't heard before. Mushoku tensei is one of my favorite shows. Keep up the good work bro! You earned a sub Thanks Goat, appreciate that |
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My first encounter in the Mushoku Tensei Discord server. |
She’s not real bud. The last reply in that thread really summed it up perfectly. |
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She’s not real bud. The last reply in that thread really summed it up perfectly.
| @Marinate1016 So you think loving lolis and underage drawings of anime girls isn't pedophilia, lol? |
Cvexreos said: @Marinate1016 So you think loving lolis and underage drawings of anime girls isn't pedophilia, lol? I don’t “think” I know. Stop throwing around words that you don’t know the meaning of. Pedophilia is an attraction to real CHILDREN. Not drawings. You calling anime characters and drawings real people is doing a disservice to actual victims of sexual assault and CSEM. Those things are wrong because they hurt real kids, not because they’re “weird” you can think Lolisho and other forms of expression are “weird” but they are objectively not pedophilia. You think crunchyroll would license “pedophilia” you think Sony and Kadokawa would endorse that? Stop it. Start helping real kids, not drawings. |
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| Do we really live in a world where normie complaints about a show like this can go so far that a counter-argument requires creating literal YouTube videos? |
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Cvexreos said: @Marinate1016 When people start accepting drawings of underage girls being sexualized and portrayed in sexual manners, the only and obvious next step is that people start accepting real underage girls being sexualized. Now show me ONE peer reviewed study that supports that. Not an opinion, but a scientifically pure reviewed study that shows a correlation between lolisho or anime and pedophilia. Keep in mind I can debunk your argument with several. Sadly, your feelings don’t trump science: https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/practice/dsm https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4478390/ |
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RobertBobert said: Do we really live in a world where normie complaints about a show like this can go so far that a counter-argument requires creating literal YouTube videos? Yes. When they begin harassing authors and labelling enjoyers of a show as pedophile(see the reply above yours) it becomes necessary to push back on this. |
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Cvexreos said: @Cvexreos And some of the countries having the punishment of it ranging from a fine to jail time. Keep in mind all of those countries have the age of consent at around 14-16 btw, so congrats, you’ve banned fictional drawings but allow children to have intercourse with adults. |
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RobertBobert said:
Do we really live in a world where normie complaints about a show like this can go so far that a counter-argument requires creating literal YouTube videos?
Do we really live in a world where normie complaints about a show like this can go so far that a counter-argument requires creating literal YouTube videos?
Yes. When they begin harassing authors and labelling enjoyers of a show as pedophile(see the reply above yours) it becomes necessary to push back on this.
| @Marinate1016 I had already forgotten that Rudeos was “mentally mature” after the first season. Even if we take into account that the second season actually turned into a Horimiya fantasy, he almost ceased to be horny. |
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@Cvexreos And some of the countries having the punishment of it ranging from a fine to jail time.
@Cvexreos And some of the countries having the punishment of it ranging from a fine to jail time.
Keep in mind all of those countries have the age of consent at around 14-16 btw, so congrats, you’ve banned fictional drawings but allow children to have intercourse with adults.
| @Marinate1016 In Russia and Ukraine, the age of consent is 18 years. But it seems to me that the Russian police are more busy fighting BL comics than hentai. Russia has lived for centuries under the mentality that harsh laws are offset by poor monitoring of their implementation. |
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Cvexreos said: @Marinate1016 Lol? A lot of European countries don't even have the "Close-In-Age Exemption" I don’t recall saying anything funny? Again, you’ve still failed to provide any peer reviewed evidence linking anime characters to pedophilia. You continue to demean victims of CSEM and make jokes of their experience even after numerous CSEM survivors have spoken up about how lolisho and anime helps them deal with their trauma. Again, there is no scientifically proven linkage between consuming a type of anime and pedophilia. It’s the same fallacious argument people used back in the day about playing violent video games. Moreover, if you truly felt that these anime were “pedophilia” why would you be a fan of a medium that normalises that? Why are you on an anime forum? Because in your heart you know it doesn’t. |
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RobertBobert said: @Marinate1016 In Russia and Ukraine, the age of consent is 18 years. But it seems to me that the Russian police are more busy fighting BL comics than hentai. Russia has lived for centuries under the mentality that harsh laws are offset by poor monitoring of their implementation. Fairs I actually remember Ceo of fate getting threatened in twitter with being reported to the police for liking loli. |
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@Marinate1016 In Russia and Ukraine, the age of consent is 18 years. But it seems to me that the Russian police are more busy fighting BL comics than hentai. Russia has lived for centuries under the mentality that harsh laws are offset by poor monitoring of their implementation.
@Marinate1016 In Russia and Ukraine, the age of consent is 18 years. But it seems to me that the Russian police are more busy fighting BL comics than hentai. Russia has lived for centuries under the mentality that harsh laws are offset by poor monitoring of their implementation.
Fairs I actually remember Ceo of fate getting threatened in twitter with being reported to the police for liking loli.
| @Marinate1016 Liking loli? Recently, Twitter tried to cancel a fitness model who agreed to participate in a collab cosplay as Tatsumaki due to her short build. A couple of dudes literally told her that even though she is a grown woman, because of her small frame, all the men who find her attractive are supposedly pedophiles. I do find loli controversial, but man, Tatsumaki and model are 20+ year old . |
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RobertBobert said: @Marinate1016 Liking loli? Recently, Twitter tried to cancel a fitness model who agreed to participate in a collab cosplay as Tatsumaki due to her short build. A couple of dudes literally told her that even though she is a grown woman, because of her small frame, all the men who find her attractive are supposedly pedophiles. I do find loli controversial, but man, Tatsumaki and model are 20 year old . Yea that’s old news but I saw Rev did a video on that yesterday. They’ve been attacking her and her friend for like two years now for that cosplay. And yea, CEO of Fate alter is a well known Lolicon and friend who has exposed numerous Antis who, you guessed it, end up being pedophiles because they can’t separate fiction from reality. It’s almost like the people who think drawings are real are the real danger. He used to have the Shirou avi, you’ve probably seen him around. |
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@Marinate1016 Liking loli? Recently, Twitter tried to cancel a fitness model who agreed to participate in a collab cosplay as Tatsumaki due to her short build. A couple of dudes literally told her that even though she is a grown woman, because of her small frame, all the men who find her attractive are supposedly pedophiles. I do find loli controversial, but man, Tatsumaki and model are 20 year old .
@Marinate1016 Liking loli? Recently, Twitter tried to cancel a fitness model who agreed to participate in a collab cosplay as Tatsumaki due to her short build. A couple of dudes literally told her that even though she is a grown woman, because of her small frame, all the men who find her attractive are supposedly pedophiles. I do find loli controversial, but man, Tatsumaki and model are 20 year old .
Yea that’s old news but I saw Rev did a video on that yesterday. They’ve been attacking her and her friend for like two years now for that cosplay.
And yea, CEO of Fate alter is a well known Lolicon and friend who has exposed numerous Antis who, you guessed it, end up being pedophiles because they can’t separate fiction from reality. It’s almost like the people who think drawings are real are the real danger. He used to have the Shirou avi, you’ve probably seen him around.
| @Marinate1016 I'm just far from it. My anime "mentality" was formed during those years when no one cared about your tastes until you became clearly obsessed with it. Now I’m not talking about loli, but about tastes in general. |
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| @EyeAmTheI You are arguing about semantics. A 30 year old immature man is still a mature adult compared to 15 year old children. |
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Exactly. As you said, Rudeus physical age is irrelevant because of his mental development which I explained in the video. Physically aging doesn’t mean you’ll be mature. Experiences form your maturity so if someone stays in a room for years it’s not like they’re going to magically be a responsible adult |
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EyeAmTheI said: @Marinate1016 Yeah, but it seems like according to the community only the age of your flesh what's matters. In a sense, they are right though. You cannot say in the court that I'm 15 years old mentally (although, there is defense of insanity). However, if we follow this logic after Rudeus' rebirth his body is only 15 years old. But suddenly his mental age is important? So yeah, if it is convinient for us we ignore the facts, if it helps our argument we don't. Well, what can I say. Personally though, I don't give a snaps. I like this show. Rudeus is a well-written MC. Especially, in the new season. He is one of the rare MCs who feels like a human being, not just an empty shell self-insert moral compass. Although, I don't understand the people. Hating self-insert MCs is trendy nowadays, but now that we got an MC who is not your perfect ascendent being the rage begins again. People don't know what they really want. Yea you can’t say that in a court of law, but the good thing is this isn’t a court. It’s a fantastical setting with fictitious characters. It’s not the first series with “problematic” themes and it won’t be the last because fiction is just an escape from reality and a means of expression. Second paragraph I agree with completely |
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EyeAmTheI said: @Marinate1016 I would argue though, if it is even problematic. I mean, it is a world in the medieval age with medieval customs. Are we going to ignore our own history? Or do I need to be ashamed of my ancestor who fought and died in the most famous siege defense of my country's history against overwhelming odds in the 17th century, just because he married a girl who would be underage according to todays law? (I can trace back my lineage to a few hundread years) Hell naw, he was a real hero. It was a different time different customs. As the old saying goes, "if you are in Rome, do as Romans do". Not to menion, it was even portrayed in the anime how Rudeus' old morals clash with the new ones. I found this internal struggle intersting. Hence why I used the quotes. People, I.e a loud minority of westerners, think that things like that are “problematic” but as I said in the video things like that were normal for the large majority of human history. Even my grandmother so only one two generations removed, was married at 14. So I don’t even need to trace it back hundreds of years lol |
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| Great video, turned out structured, clear and concise! Also agree with the talking points you made. |
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@Cvexreos The Netherlands, Finland, Belgium (partially), the United Kingdom, Switzerland, Russia, and more have banned fictional pornography involving minors.
Cvexreos said: Switzerland stop lying, it's completely legal here |
| Pretty good video. tbh it's sad that you need to make a whole video defending something that shouldn't be this much of a problem in the first place. |
| @necodes thanks for that, I was pretty sure it was but didn’t feel like arguing |
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