| Maybe this is specific to the anime, but Ace is not portrayed in the anime as being as strong and grand of a pirate as his title suggests. To bring the whole Navy together for his execution, you would think hes on the level of the old king of the pirates. Instead, the anime gives us practically no build up for his character. Hell, up until Marineford, hes been nothing but a secondary character for the Alabasta arc. P.S. - so you one OP fanboys dont mix this up.. im not talking about EMOTIONAL build up... this is about STRENGTH/POWER |
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| his title? you mean "fire fist" ace? if so, then what part of "fire fist" suggests that he's strong and grand? it implies that he's a fire user, i thought that's...obvious? the whole navy gathered for his execution bc they knew whitebeard would surely come to retrieve his 2nd division commander. it's called being "bait". |
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ryzxgum said: his title? you mean "fire fist" ace? if so, then what part of "fire fist" suggests that he's strong and grand? it implies that he's a fire user, i thought that's...obvious? the whole navy gathered for his execution bc they knew whitebeard would surely come to retrieve his 2nd division commander. it's called being "bait". you think their plan... was to have their entire HQ destoryed and their army reserves decimated in a war torn battle? you really dont think they could have figured out a better way to get whitebeard |
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| Please do not turn yourself into one of those traditional critics of One piece who look through every crevice, cusp, and corner to find the most minute thing to bitch about. That being said, I just wholeheartedly disagree. In Alabasta, you can see the way Ace carried himself among Luffy's crew. They could tell that he was someone incredibly strong. I can't remember what the anime did, but I know that Ace only appears briefly,in the manga, helping fight some baroque war agents, and then talking with the straw hats. Immediately after that, he continued looking for Blackbeard. He was the second division commander of Whitebeard's crew, how does that not signify properly his strength and power? Ace was one of the most notorious pirates in the world not just for being linked with Whitebeard but also for his lineage. In other arcs/ storylines, Ace does get built up as more of a primary character. Even in the current arc in the anime, he is still being talked about as an important figure. |
samsince04Nov 23, 2022 2:03 AM
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onionboys said: They clearly were anticipating full-on-war when they decided to execute one of WB's crewmates so I'm sure there was no other alternative for them. The Marines executing Ace was to send a message to the whole world more than it was to kill WBryzxgum said: his title? you mean "fire fist" ace? if so, then what part of "fire fist" suggests that he's strong and grand? it implies that he's a fire user, i thought that's...obvious? the whole navy gathered for his execution bc they knew whitebeard would surely come to retrieve his 2nd division commander. it's called being "bait". you think their plan... was to have their entire HQ destoryed and their army reserves decimated in a war torn battle? you really dont think they could have figured out a better way to get whitebeard They hoped to end the insane era that Roger's statements had sparked. They wished for the entire world to witness the Marine's true power. Yes, there was a risk but ultimately they achieved what they wanted. Although it backfired when a respected figure like WB acknowledged The One Piece's existence. |
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onionboys said: ryzxgum said: his title? you mean "fire fist" ace? if so, then what part of "fire fist" suggests that he's strong and grand? it implies that he's a fire user, i thought that's...obvious? the whole navy gathered for his execution bc they knew whitebeard would surely come to retrieve his 2nd division commander. it's called being "bait". you think their plan... was to have their entire HQ destoryed and their army reserves decimated in a war torn battle? you really dont think they could have figured out a better way to get whitebeard no clown, their plan was to lure whitebeard out, they take the bait and the marines defeat them. AND IT WORKED. majority of pirates died and the marines lived on. this is what happens when you watch one piece on tiktok. you make dumb threads like this. |
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| this is what happens when you watch one piece on tiktok. you make dumb threads like this. x2 |
onionboys said: Maybe this is specific to the anime, but Ace is not portrayed in the anime as being as strong and grand of a pirate as his title suggests. To bring the whole Navy together for his execution, you would think hes on the level of the old king of the pirates. Instead, the anime gives us practically no build up for his character. Hell, up until Marineford, hes been nothing but a secondary character for the Alabasta arc. P.S. - so you one OP fanboys dont mix this up.. im not talking about EMOTIONAL build up... this is about STRENGTH/POWER I think they did a solid job on the build up, with 1000+ episodes and more than just build up to show, there’s no need for a 700 word essay on why ace is part of one of the strongest crew’s 2nd division, “they don’t let just anyone become the 2nd division commander of the whitebeard pirates” -zoro, i mean he’s got the moniker “fire fist ace” then he gave a small example of what he’s capable of, of course we don’t get all the good stuff till after marineford, keep in mind this was a time when the biggest threat to anyone was a guy who could make a sea king piss off with a stare, so i think your take isn’t really all that thought out I think you’d have a better time giving takes about anime over at that place over there —>  |
| Am 100% sure that Ace was built up to being strong, unless the OP is suggesting we needed to have a backstory volume or two focused only on Ace showing him defeating enemies, then I dont get the complaint here. A good writer doesnt need to make everything 100% explicit, you can use your intuition, logic, and reasoning to reach the conclusion that Ace is strong based on the facts Oda presented in the story. |
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RequiemLo64 said: onionboys said: Maybe this is specific to the anime, but Ace is not portrayed in the anime as being as strong and grand of a pirate as his title suggests. To bring the whole Navy together for his execution, you would think hes on the level of the old king of the pirates. Instead, the anime gives us practically no build up for his character. Hell, up until Marineford, hes been nothing but a secondary character for the Alabasta arc. P.S. - so you one OP fanboys dont mix this up.. im not talking about EMOTIONAL build up... this is about STRENGTH/POWER I think they did a solid job on the build up, with 1000+ episodes and more than just build up to show, there’s no need for a 700 word essay on why ace is part of one of the strongest crew’s 2nd division, “they don’t let just anyone become the 2nd division commander of the whitebeard pirates” -zoro, i mean he’s got the moniker “fire fist ace” then he gave a small example of what he’s capable of, of course we don’t get all the good stuff till after marineford, keep in mind this was a time when the biggest threat to anyone was a guy who could make a sea king piss off with a stare, so i think your take isn’t really all that thought out I think you’d have a better time giving takes about anime over at that place over there —> i aint reading all that |
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onionboys said: bruh his response is relatively the same length as your post. Have some shame.RequiemLo64 said: I think they did a solid job on the build up, with 1000+ episodes and more than just build up to show, there’s no need for a 700 word essay on why ace is part of one of the strongest crew’s 2nd division, “they don’t let just anyone become the 2nd division commander of the whitebeard pirates” -zoro, i mean he’s got the moniker “fire fist ace” then he gave a small example of what he’s capable of, of course we don’t get all the good stuff till after marineford, keep in mind this was a time when the biggest threat to anyone was a guy who could make a sea king piss off with a stare, so i think your take isn’t really all that thought out I think you’d have a better time giving takes about anime over at that place over there —> i aint reading all that |
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samsince04 said: bruh his response is relatively the same length as your post. Have some shame. u must really need attention if ur over here quoting other posts after u have very clearly been ignored multiple times |
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onionboys said: lol who are you fronting for? No one's impressed by this shtick you have going on here. You make a post, people respond to your post and you reply with mundane answers. How sad, you ignored my response. How does that affect me in any way? It's not like I cannot just hop on another forum thread and voice my opinion there or anything...u must really need attention if ur over here quoting other posts after u have very clearly been ignored multiple times |
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onionboys said: RequiemLo64 said: I think they did a solid job on the build up, with 1000+ episodes and more than just build up to show, there’s no need for a 700 word essay on why ace is part of one of the strongest crew’s 2nd division, “they don’t let just anyone become the 2nd division commander of the whitebeard pirates” -zoro, i mean he’s got the moniker “fire fist ace” then he gave a small example of what he’s capable of, of course we don’t get all the good stuff till after marineford, keep in mind this was a time when the biggest threat to anyone was a guy who could make a sea king piss off with a stare, so i think your take isn’t really all that thought out I think you’d have a better time giving takes about anime over at that place over there —> i aint reading all that Then maybe don’t post in the forums :) you know this is how discussion works right? plus it doesn’t sound like you know what you’re talking about anyways. |
onionboys said: RequiemLo64 said: I think they did a solid job on the build up, with 1000+ episodes and more than just build up to show, there’s no need for a 700 word essay on why ace is part of one of the strongest crew’s 2nd division, “they don’t let just anyone become the 2nd division commander of the whitebeard pirates” -zoro, i mean he’s got the moniker “fire fist ace” then he gave a small example of what he’s capable of, of course we don’t get all the good stuff till after marineford, keep in mind this was a time when the biggest threat to anyone was a guy who could make a sea king piss off with a stare, so i think your take isn’t really all that thought out I think you’d have a better time giving takes about anime over at that place over there —> i aint reading all that I actually thought you made a forum to start conversation but it seems you just started one to hate. |
| His execution was obviously meant to be symbolic. He was set to be executed because he was Roger's son, not because he as a pirate was a huge threat to the WG itself. |
Khalil04 said: What unrealistic decision? A decision not to leave WB alone? Not unrealistic, all the division commanders were doing the same. A decision to protect his little brother? Not unrealistic at all.onionboys said: Maybe this is specific to the anime, but Ace is not portrayed in the anime as being as strong and grand of a pirate as his title suggests. To bring the whole Navy together for his execution, you would think hes on the level of the old king of the pirates. Instead, the anime gives us practically no build up for his character. Hell, up until Marineford, hes been nothing but a secondary character for the Alabasta arc. P.S. - so you one OP fanboys dont mix this up.. im not talking about EMOTIONAL build up... this is about STRENGTH/POWER I agree, his emotional build up was flawed, because all the informations that we know about him and his past were shown in the flashbacks which were used every 5 min in Marineford lmfao Not to mention the cringe execution of his death, he's been kept detained while watching the death of his teammates for dozens of episodes, so he should've been be the most aware person of the crucial conditions they're in and just escape with them In honor of their sacrifices, especially Whitebeard being closer to him than anyone else, but no he chooses an unrealistic decision for the sake of the drama and the usual pathetic porn tears in one piece |
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