Pyro Games V3.5 Dragon Ball Re-Run! No Winner!

Crossbell said:
actually im voting myself

so only yurkin is voting you, unless i missed someone else voting lucian?

Crossbell said:
please prioritize your mental health over mafia

many times last year i did it the other way around and regretted it so, very much

Lambtron said:


Not bad, maybe... At least smol to the point and not throwing role fluff or trying to either dodge focus or spread it too far.

I'll go with Mishu being town a little in spirit almost 100 mechanically, Karote is town enough, but feel free to expand on trying for a noatch between him and Lucian so quick or why you'd mention Lucian first and bounce Karote off them specifically.
Cross town enough for this post alone tbh.

Doughkey said:
Listen, I am not going to be bullying Chad, I won't be bashing, berating, insulting, teasing or even confessing to Chad in this game.

Now, this is not because I am mafia with him, please do not think that, like, at all, because that is certainly not the case. It is because I am scared of Osie. He is cruel and unusual, and for these reasons just a little intriguing.

Because of my fears I would like him to be gone so Chad and I can continue to correspond for the greater good of our fellow town. Which I can assure you I am a member of.

Sadly I don't know if Osie is in this game and I am scared if I go back mal will not save my essay, and surely I am not smart enough to copy and paste this. So I will need to lunch Lamb, who's massive anime titties will keep me distracted from doing my duty as town, which I assuredly am.

lynch: Lamb

Lambtron said:


Not bait, but Where's me content... Pointed but didn't bite plus tickling flavour/role, do not pass go.
On an off note though, you mean miss as in miss the bad entrances or actually missed things before they were discussed?

osieorb18 said:


"Scarlet's so old..."

Also isn't it an open setup? Not that I've read it.

LucianRoy said:
(forgot the bbc code for links)

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Gwendolly said:
My paranoid ass ain't clicking on links even when it says myanimelist.. Especially after these hacker incidents. Please just quote the shit in future

osieorb18 said:


"Scarlet's so old..."

Also isn't it an open setup? Not that I've read it.

Doughkey said:


Lmao, this post is gold. I'm not gonna lie, I had not read the roles much either, as I could safely say a bunch of people would attest themselves to. I think it reads a little town for the effort though.

Doughkey said:


I hate this. The most copy/paste lurk scum post I've ever read. But it's so obtusely scummy so would she willingly put a target on her back? Is she dense? I'll let the new age meta readers determine that

Doughkey said:


Funny, I disagree with almost everything in this post.

First of all, meta from us old cucks should mean next to nothing. If meta means ANYTHING: I had always thought Carrot was more active while scum. I believe he would be the rare situation to choose to be mafia over town.

Additionally, I particularly dislike Carrots post you reference. Obviously he would not care about your vote that early, it was a useless thing to say, but you view it as town?

And the last sentence kind of feels... contradictory somehow?

"I'm expecting Karote to lurk, and play from the shadows, but somehow the fact that he was here at the beginning of the day shows some initiative overall. Which is also a good sign. Maybe he's a changed man, time will tell."

You say that he rang town because of some meta nonsense about his vote on Lamb, and then how he reacted to your vote. If we are going to faction read Karote right now- the fact he is a 'changed man' should have tipped you off that something was changing his gameplay-.

The contradiction is it looks like you are picking and choosing what to view as a change in meta, and a change in the person playing. this makes me believe this post is trying to set a narrative since it makes no logical sense.

I disagree with the meta read, I disagree with his posts looking townie, and I dislike the way you are presenting your thoughts if you are not trying to force an idea.

You also do not need to explain an unvote that early into D1, seems jumpy.

Crossbell said:
think scarlet is relatively readable when she posts more

you can interpret her checking in post as wolfy, i don't think it's especially alignment-indicative.

from a game health perspective i don't really like pushing people when they say they are busy and multitabling as well

don't really think karote is aligned with lucian and i think lucian is quite likely to be a wolf, so

Crossbell said:
if lucian/karote are wolves together, i don't see lucian going for a meta-based "rvs" vote on his scumbuddy since i think lucian would probably run that by karote in wolfchat and i think it's just kind of far fetched

kinda weak but that was what i was thinking at the time

Crossbell said:
this is how i will be playing this game

if you do not like it, feel free to lunch me

Doughkey said:


Pulling from my notes

21. crossbell - first to mention the elephant in the room that is mass claiming, and being opposed to it, I currently think the fixation on mass claiming and saying they wouldnt be a part of it to dissuade people is rather scum. Said Lucian/carrot were not on the same team based off the smallest interaction I have ever seen, weird jump. Abu asks about Crossbells faction claim and Crossbell says he is shooting from the hip, effectively making any pressure he was attempting to put in weightless. Cross mentions he wont care about the game regardless of what role he lands. Sounds like a cop out to be a lazy scum. Cross mentions hes retired, again trying to play it off like he doesnt care about the game. Says Mishu/abu is not aligned, but mishu already claimed miller. "I am clearly ~worried~ about a massclaim". Cross calls out Osie thinking Lamb is town, +1. Don't like Crossbell raising my banner as town so much and soft supporting Lucian lynch who is openly my biggest scum read, seems patronizing. Clearly contradictory with what activity he does and what he says he is/will be doing. Trying to guise himself as being a cute little log, but evidence shows the opposite.

Doughkey said:


48 hour dayphase. Our goldfish brains wont even remember we were sus of you come the AM. Like I personally forgot anyone other than Crossbell exists.

Did you remember Wisp was in this game?

I certainly didn't until he meandered his way onto this page.

Doughkey said:
How ironic that I view your posts the same way

AbuHumaid said:
I think it's time to elaborate on this.

The reason I suspected Crossbell is because he would make serious posts/reads then suddenly switch and go "lol i'm retired idk idc", at first it was subtle, but now he's more blatant about it.

But, honestly? The moment he's become more blatant about it has become NAI, therefore, it would be better to read him based on his actual non-troll posts, and most of his other posts have been solid, so I townlean Cross.

Mishukax said:

Didn't you find Abu's post scummy as well though?

Doughkey said:
Kind of caught up.

Jack, how do you feel about mishus claim?

Also tell me why you haven't just claimed mafia alongside Karote

Doughkey said:
Lamb, Lucian and I (the mafia, coincidentally enough)

LucianRoy said:
Let me start, the reason I unvoted Karote was because his early vote was some low hanging fruit of RVS. Totally typical of town Karote to take an easy path like that by going for lamb's cheesy scum claim. I like his entry to say the least, but thas all meta mostly.

His post in #28 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636#msg65453629 (forgot the bbc code for links), actually rang kinda towny. I could easily see town Karote being unfazed by my vote and going like "yeah typical Lucian BS," and he just kind of brushed it off non-chalantly.

I'm expecting Karote to lurk, and play from the shadows, but somehow the fact that he was here at the beginning of the day shows some initiative overall. Which is also a good sign. Maybe he's a changed man, time will tell.

That's my unvote cleared up hopefully.

Now we look for scum.

Doughkey said:
Seems a bit backwards that you think we would give half a shit about your faction reads when you aren't even pretending to be invested.

LucianRoy said:
So my reads took a big shift in the last minute because the bad vibes I was getting dissipated when Mishu cleared himself. That said I think I still lean town on Karote, but that's a tough rock to base my reads around, but it's one I'll cling to.

Yurkin is trying to do early gamesolving in which is typical of town Yurkin. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453817 #56 says a lot in very little. General stuff, but Yurkin doing footwork D1 is always a good sign iirc.

I go skiing with my mates, miss being active, and come back to crossbell's #80 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1986636&show=50#msg65453941 which I have some questions about.

What did Shin do that was AI to you? The Mishu read is a given now, but what do you see in Shinichi? Other than maybe 32 about the role timing thing.

And the biggest question of all, why am I your top scumread? Is it because of lack of activity? Or something different? I wanna hear your thoughts leading up to this page 2 post when I made only 1 post. Yeah it was a pre-meditated vote, something I don't usually do, how did it rub you the wrong way?

Jackrito said:


I'm glad you brought up the Mishu claim because I want to talk about it, in a typical game open or closed espically in Open its good to claim this early, Mishu also did the right thing of normal hints. So this would mean 2 things they are either the actual Miller which I think is likely based off their actual posts or they are trying to bait out a counter claim, this is a bad/ insane move because they is no role that would kill themselvls to create a 1-1 trade with a miller.

Now we come into the Pyro game factor, and something no one has mentioned and is easily missable, which is Bablidi ablity. Manipulation - If Babidi is lynched day 1 he is able to convert 1 person from his lynch train to villains. This is something that any good scum team would try to take adv of Mishu is someone who I think of as a top tier scum player so I could see them trying to force a counter claim of a miller by doing this and getting the ability usage out of this, by doing so you figure out the miller so can use any anti claim ablities on the miller so get a free kill there, so you then would get a free night kill and a new teammate.

This is honestly a broken ablity so for today I plan to stay away from Mishu and any potential counter claims that come at them, because their early claim if town has created space now for scum who got Baabidi to counter claim them and get themselves killed and gain a powerful new ally and scum team can kill mishu through probable anti claim feature also.

I'm a little a bit concerned that no one brought up this possablity knowledge is power and in a open setup keeping track of all variables is important, I know a couple have looked through roles as well from my rearead so this is more concerning. You could make the counter agrument that he is the invest proof on scum team so not worth the risk, but I personally would want a teammate over a invest proof role any day and think most would.

Mishukax said:

On that topic what do you think of osie posts, they feel even more like fake low effort to me

LucianRoy said:
Why so aggro tho? This style of voting literally always rubs me the wrong way. Feels like a policy vote coming from a weird mindset, and policy votes are easy pickings for scum.

Also Wisp is older now, I'm sure he's past that.

Crossbell said:
i feel like you as town would be way more relaxed and natural, and your early posts feel like you have some compulsion to get the game going, which often comes from scum who think that they need a strong early impression

LucianRoy said:

You're right, on second thought, this multi quote is actually going to turn into my notes I'll spring if it gets down to the wire at EoD. Think of it as a failsafe.

For now I'm going to do this:

Vote: Lamb

I'm gonna end the night on this note. And I know I said in discord I'd give him a free pass D1 but I lied. Nothing the man has done has pinged me town, and that's a bad thing. For reasons maybe you can work on.

I would link his posts but I'm actually way too tired. I will say #128 struck me as fluff despite it calling out fluff. There are others but I'll leave it at that, I'm gaming way too hard on myself.

Sorry I couldn't be here earlier in the day, my ski trip we'd been planning for a hot minute just happened to start at the beginning of the phase. Bad timing.

I'm old and tired, goodnight everyone.

Crossbell said:
i feel like you as town would be way more relaxed and natural, and your early posts feel like you have some compulsion to get the game going, which often comes from scum who think that they need a strong early impression

SuzakuTsubasa said:
I think we still have to hear from Sully, Wen, Logic and Phraze. I doubt a fake claim would happen this early but they're the last possible counters against Mishu I guess.



"Osie scares me" proceeds to vote Lamb then Yurkin.

That and the next few posts feel a bit too much like a bait though. Then most other posts feeling okay confuses me too.



I mean missed the "I'm scum lynch me" day 1 posts.



They grow up so fast.

ScarletCelestial said:
Honestly I don't see what the issue with Lucian is.

🔥Lynch zone🔥

_Wisp(3) - osieorb18, Mishukax, RuuryMercury.

🔥Runner ups🔥

Crossbell(2) - Doughkey, Crossbell.
lucianroy(2) - yurkin, Jackrito.
Lambtron(2) - Karote02, Lucianroy.
Mishukax(1) - AbuHumaid.
Karote(1) - LucianRoy.
Gwendolly(1) - Shinichi-kun.
RuuryMercury(1) - Lambtron.

🔥Not voting (12)🔥

Beeboy, ScarletCelestial, Gwendolly, _Wisp, SullyMcGully, wen294, SuzakuTsubasa, logic340, Phraze

🔥Mod notes🔥

🔥VC list🔥

Mishukax said:

What do you think of Jack's policy vote
Sorry I'm stuck five years in the past lol
If I had to say I don't have an opinion on wisp so far

Crossbell said:
i'm not going to meta dive old games and stuff

Mishukax said:

Do people even do that?
Seems like a pain, just go from memory, I thought this was a given

SullyMcGully said:
Can somebody summarize? Or if you already have, point it out to me? I gotta go to work. Why are we lynching Kyle?

ScarletCelestial said:
Is there even any players left who could counterclaim?