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Nov 8, 2021 7:58 AM
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As you may know Eris hate Paul for mistreated Rudy, what if there is no Ruijerd to stop her and she end up fighting Paul. Would she beat Paul or Paul would easily fend her off ? P/s: Little bit of information Paul currently is Advance in 3 sword style while Eris would be Advanced Sword God, and Intermediate/Advanced North God but she had beastly strength and have been taught by Ghislane and Ruijerd. Edit: I want to make some adustment to balance the scale. Paul would still be drunk, Eris had learned about Paul swordstyle and had a first strike. |
NhtDesuNov 8, 2021 8:37 AM
Nov 8, 2021 8:13 AM
#3
Maqif said: Bruh Paul would one shot her lmao Idk because to me Paul is not as strong as before and he is a drunkard, fighting in unstable mind could lead him underestimate Eris capability and i Doubt he'd oneshot her consider that even Ruijerd had a HARD time stopping her lmao |
Nov 8, 2021 8:18 AM
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Nov 8, 2021 8:27 AM
#5
Dragevard said: Ghislaine's ass is made of titanium. Paul's sword is able to penetrate it. Paul wins. Aw shit can't denied that lol |
Nov 8, 2021 8:28 AM
#6
Dragevard said: Ghislaine's ass is made of titanium. Paul's sword is able to penetrate it. Paul wins. Now that was a encounter worth seeing for power scaling reasons. |
Nov 8, 2021 8:59 AM
#7
U seriously asking this |
Nov 8, 2021 9:05 AM
#8
Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not |
Nov 8, 2021 9:07 AM
#9
So essentially your saying if you swapped Rudeus with Eris in that fight at the church? Eris probably got stronger in the last 6 months from when Rudeus absolutely destroyed her in swordplay with his Eye of foresight but I doubt it would be enough to still be at the same level as him at that point. Pauls 3 Styles make a huge difference. |
Nov 8, 2021 9:08 AM
#10
Chota_Itachi said: U seriously asking this why not I think you underestimate Eris more than she deserved. Eris may not had experience than Paul but she had instinct of a beast she a prodigy of sword more so than Paul plus her wild nature make her very unpredictable. Paul had been stagnate with his sword style since the last time we see him in part 1 while Eris improve tremendously everyday for almost 5 years. |
Nov 8, 2021 9:08 AM
#11
Paul easy no doubt. |
Nov 8, 2021 9:18 AM
#12
Kelly32723 said: Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not I don't think Paul can bodied Rudy tbh since the strongest move Paul has is that slash, but it only manage to cut the panties (I forgot the move name but I remembered that it can only use one time because if someone can dodge that first time it's basically useless the second time for losing the element of suprise ). Rudy saw all his move so he could easily plan ahead and defeat Paul if he want like in the bar scene. In LN he basically solo the entire Paul's team and win without hurting anyone, so yeah he definately can make Paul look like Eris Part 2 no doubt |
NhtDesuNov 8, 2021 9:25 AM
Nov 8, 2021 10:00 AM
#13
paul had no clue of rudeus' identity in episode 16 and he almost recked him before the climax. If it were Eris, he'd have just made her hold his saké and spanked a million times before she could know what just happened. Doesn't matter if he's drunk. His skills and experience as an S class party's swordsman is definitely not a joke. I bet he'd even give Ruijerd a run for money. |
Nov 8, 2021 10:04 AM
#14
Dragevard said: Ghislaine's ass is made of titanium. Paul's sword is able to penetrate it. Paul wins. I HAVE NO GREATER EXPECTATION FROM THIS TRUE EXPERT OF MUSHOKU TENSEI. |
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Nov 8, 2021 10:11 AM
#15
RamanathPai said: paul had no clue of rudeus' identity in episode 16 and he almost recked him before the climax. If it were Eris, he'd have just made her hold his saké and spanked a million times before she could know what just happened. Doesn't matter if he's drunk. His skills and experience as an S class party's swordsman is definitely not a joke. I bet he'd even give Ruijerd a run for money. And Ruijerd would squashed him like a bug, there is a reason why people call him dead end bruh |
Nov 8, 2021 10:12 AM
#16
Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. |
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Nov 8, 2021 10:17 AM
#17
Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. She had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion |
Nov 8, 2021 10:17 AM
#18
NhtDesu said: RamanathPai said: paul had no clue of rudeus' identity in episode 16 and he almost recked him before the climax. If it were Eris, he'd have just made her hold his saké and spanked a million times before she could know what just happened. Doesn't matter if he's drunk. His skills and experience as an S class party's swordsman is definitely not a joke. I bet he'd even give Ruijerd a run for money. And Ruijerd would squashed him like a bug, there is a reason why people call him dead end bruh Paul in his prime could have probably given Ruijerd a good fight. Ruijerd would win in the end with out a doubt. |
Nov 8, 2021 10:19 AM
#19
NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., |
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Nov 8, 2021 10:23 AM
#20
Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight |
NhtDesuNov 8, 2021 10:27 AM
Nov 8, 2021 10:25 AM
#21
Paul as of now. Eris is really good in Sword God Style, being an advanced level, but Paul having much more actual experience while being Advanced in all 3 styles leads him to be more versatile and adaptable to situations would make him the favorite now. Eris has easily the potential to surpass him though in the long run. |
Nov 8, 2021 10:39 AM
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animejas said: Paul as of now. Eris is really good in Sword God Style, being an advanced level, but Paul having much more actual experience while being Advanced in all 3 styles leads him to be more versatile and adaptable to situations would make him the favorite now. Eris has easily the potential to surpass him though in the long run. Maybe but I did adjusted that she had the first strike. You may know in MT world, sword fight usually end in a flash and if you have first solid hit the chance of winning raise tremendously like the one with Garus Cleaner. So yeah maybe Paul could easily win her but there's still a chance he lose too! The final fight with "him" and Eris prove that( if you aren't source reader you wouldn't understand this) |
Nov 8, 2021 10:43 AM
#23
NhtDesu said: animejas said: Paul as of now. Eris is really good in Sword God Style, being an advanced level, but Paul having much more actual experience while being Advanced in all 3 styles leads him to be more versatile and adaptable to situations would make him the favorite now. Eris has easily the potential to surpass him though in the long run. Maybe but I did adjusted that she had the first strike. You may know in MT world, sword fight usually end in a flash and if you have first solid hit the chance of winning raise tremendously like the one with Garus Cleaner. So yeah maybe Paul could easily win her but there's still a chance he lose too! The final fight with "him" and Eris prove that( if you aren't source reader you wouldn't understand this) I am a source reader, and there's a chance but it's still more than likely to go to him even now. It's just regarding who I would put my money on in this situation. |
Nov 8, 2021 10:47 AM
#24
NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. |
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Nov 8, 2021 10:51 AM
#25
Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared |
Nov 8, 2021 10:57 AM
#26
animejas said: NhtDesu said: animejas said: Paul as of now. Eris is really good in Sword God Style, being an advanced level, but Paul having much more actual experience while being Advanced in all 3 styles leads him to be more versatile and adaptable to situations would make him the favorite now. Eris has easily the potential to surpass him though in the long run. Maybe but I did adjusted that she had the first strike. You may know in MT world, sword fight usually end in a flash and if you have first solid hit the chance of winning raise tremendously like the one with Garus Cleaner. So yeah maybe Paul could easily win her but there's still a chance he lose too! The final fight with "him" and Eris prove that( if you aren't source reader you wouldn't understand this) I am a source reader, and there's a chance but it's still more than likely to go to him even now. It's just regarding who I would put my money on in this situation. In this case I put my wallet to Eris |
Nov 8, 2021 10:58 AM
#27
NhtDesu said: I guess I should have articulated my reasoning more. It sounds really dickish of me to start Eris would beat Paul without any points.Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared Eris was constantly training and battling dangerous monsters in the Demon Continent, which was stated to be a location that Paul has never ventured to before, so that would give Eris an advantage. In other words, Eris was tempered by the harsh environment of the Demon Continent, the most dangerous location in the Mushoku Tensei world. Furthermore, she was also training with someone who is considered to be at least emperor-level in fighting capabilities. Since Paul has never been to the Demon Continent, he probably only has fought monsters that are of significantly lower rank. |
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Nov 8, 2021 11:12 AM
#28
Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: I guess I should have articulated my reasoning more. It sounds really dickish of me to start Eris would beat Paul without any points.Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared Eris was constantly training and battling dangerous monsters in the Demon Continent, which was stated to be a location that Paul has never ventured to before, so that would give Eris an advantage. In other words, Eris was tempered by the harsh environment of the Demon Continent, the most dangerous location in the Mushoku Tensei world. Furthermore, she was also training with someone who is considered to be at least emperor-level in fighting capabilities. Since Paul has never been to the Demon Continent, he probably only has fought monsters that are of significantly lower rank. Well you're right about that but let's not forget that Paul is still a bonafide S class adventurer, in Volume 7 of MT we get to know how the guild system work and how an S class sometime get a subjugate mission that can involve with an A or even S classes monsters so it's not like Paul hadn't killed one before just not much in comparison |
Nov 8, 2021 11:17 AM
#29
NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared Eris was constantly training and battling dangerous monsters in the Demon Continent, which was stated to be a location that Paul has never ventured to before, so that would give Eris an advantage. In other words, Eris was tempered by the harsh environment of the Demon Continent, the most dangerous location in the Mushoku Tensei world. Furthermore, she was also training with someone who is considered to be at least emperor-level in fighting capabilities. Since Paul has never been to the Demon Continent, he probably only has fought monsters that are of significantly lower rank. Well you're right about that but let's not forget that Paul is still a bonafide S class adventurer, in Volume 7 of MT we get to know how the guild system work and how an S class sometime get a subjugate mission that can involve with an A or even S classes monsters so it's not like Paul hadn't killed one before just not much in comparison If memory serve, Dead End is a S-ranked adventurer group. Even if they were not formally named as such, they took on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent. I would hazard a guess that taking on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent is more dangerous than S-ranked missions elsewhere. During the events in volume 3, Eris and Ruijerd mainly were the ones doing S-ranked battle missions. I forgot if Rudeus had much participation in the battles though. |
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Nov 8, 2021 11:22 AM
#30
Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: I guess I should have articulated my reasoning more. It sounds really dickish of me to start Eris would beat Paul without any points.Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared Eris was constantly training and battling dangerous monsters in the Demon Continent, which was stated to be a location that Paul has never ventured to before, so that would give Eris an advantage. In other words, Eris was tempered by the harsh environment of the Demon Continent, the most dangerous location in the Mushoku Tensei world. Furthermore, she was also training with someone who is considered to be at least emperor-level in fighting capabilities. Since Paul has never been to the Demon Continent, he probably only has fought monsters that are of significantly lower rank. Well you're right about that but let's not forget that Paul is still a bonafide S class adventurer, in Volume 7 of MT we get to know how the guild system work and how an S class sometime get a subjugate mission that can involve with an A or even S classes monsters so it's not like Paul hadn't killed one before just not much in comparison If memory serve, Dead End is a S-ranked adventurer group. Even if they were not formally named as such, they took on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent. I would hazard a guess that taking on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent is more dangerous than S-ranked missions elsewhere. During the events in volume 3, Eris and Ruijerd mainly were the ones doing S-ranked battle missions. I forgot if Rudeus had much participation in the battles though. I'm sorry but you're deadly wrong about this they're still A rank even now and only do B rank Job because A rank or S rank involve in subjugate monster and sometimes it could take weeks or months to do so not only it take times money but also very dangerous Rudy can't accept the risk so they stick with B rank mission. There is only one A rank they killed and that is the snake in part one other than that I don't remember they killed any high tier monster |
NhtDesuNov 8, 2021 11:31 AM
Nov 8, 2021 11:42 AM
#31
NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: I guess I should have articulated my reasoning more. It sounds really dickish of me to start Eris would beat Paul without any points.Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. The had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion The time between now and meeting Farion is not too far apart. I would wager a guess she is bordering on low Saint rank. Eris beated the crap out of some students, who I assume are saint-ranked, when she made her debut at Farion's school., I don't think the time is close at all considering travel from Millis to Eris home take almost 6 months and another few months for Eris to Farion dojo. Well only one of the student is Saint rank but she got suprised that Eris use fist on a sword fight How long did it take to travel from Fittoa to the Holy Sword Land? I doubt Eris gained that much power from now to end of volume 6. She and Ruijerd were constantly training during their journey. I don't think Paul would be able to beat Eris tbh. I remembered that Rudy mention it take half a years to go to Millis. I also agreed with you that Eris is a very capable swordwoman and could beat Paul given situation and come prepared Eris was constantly training and battling dangerous monsters in the Demon Continent, which was stated to be a location that Paul has never ventured to before, so that would give Eris an advantage. In other words, Eris was tempered by the harsh environment of the Demon Continent, the most dangerous location in the Mushoku Tensei world. Furthermore, she was also training with someone who is considered to be at least emperor-level in fighting capabilities. Since Paul has never been to the Demon Continent, he probably only has fought monsters that are of significantly lower rank. Well you're right about that but let's not forget that Paul is still a bonafide S class adventurer, in Volume 7 of MT we get to know how the guild system work and how an S class sometime get a subjugate mission that can involve with an A or even S classes monsters so it's not like Paul hadn't killed one before just not much in comparison If memory serve, Dead End is a S-ranked adventurer group. Even if they were not formally named as such, they took on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent. I would hazard a guess that taking on S-ranked missions in the Demon Continent is more dangerous than S-ranked missions elsewhere. During the events in volume 3, Eris and Ruijerd mainly were the ones doing S-ranked battle missions. I forgot if Rudeus had much participation in the battles though. I'm sorry but you're deadly wrong about this they're still A rank even now and only do B rank Job because A rank or S rank involve in subjugate monster and sometimes it could take weeks or months to do so not only it take times money but also very dangerous Rudy can't accept the risk so they stick with B rank mission. There is only one A rank they killed and that is the snake in part one other than that I don't remember they killed any high tier monster Yes, you are right. I went back to double check volume 3 and they only have faced A-ranked monsters. However, I found something interesting in chapter 14 of volume 3. "I didn't think she was anywhere close to Ghislaine yet, but at this point, I suspected she may be slightly better than Paul." - Rudeus |
ConceptualheroNov 8, 2021 11:55 AM
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Nov 8, 2021 5:03 PM
#32
Conceptualhero said: "I didn't think she was anywhere close to Ghislaine yet, but at this point, I suspected she may be slightly better than Paul." - Rudeus That's coming from a guy who still at most intermediate level of swordmanship in his whole life |
Nov 8, 2021 5:25 PM
#33
Akamiroo said: Conceptualhero said: "I didn't think she was anywhere close to Ghislaine yet, but at this point, I suspected she may be slightly better than Paul." - Rudeus That's coming from a guy who still at most intermediate level of swordmanship in his whole life Rudeus is extremely observant, and in the literary sense, it is the author communicating details through him to the readers. He doesn't need to know the concept of Touki to know about the superhuman feats the swordsmans in Mushoku Tensei universe exhibit. He even made note of it in the first volume. |
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Nov 8, 2021 6:00 PM
#34
NhtDesu said: Conceptualhero said: Paul is only advanced in all three sword style. Eris should be saint-ranked at the very least. In volume 5 of the light novel, Eris effortlessly dispatched all the bandits when Cliff and Rudeus's aunt were in trouble. I would say Eris and Paul should be on par with each other at this poiint. She had yet to become a saint rank. She get acknowledge Saint rank when she met with Farion You don't become a Saint rank one day. It's not like they are leveling and at certain level they get considered Saint rank. All it means is that she officially received the title of Saint rank at that time, but she likely was already Saint rank strength beforehand during her training with Ruijerd. Eris should be borderline Saint rank at around this time considering that she managed to hit Ruijerd once even though he was distracted. She might still have a hard time fighting Paul due to difference of experience, but I would say she has the advantage in terms of strength. |
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Nov 8, 2021 6:05 PM
#35
Depends. If it's just drunk Paul, ez win for him. If it's drunk end of his rope Paul, I'd say a draw. |
Nov 8, 2021 6:12 PM
#36
Link10103 said: Depends. If it's just drunk Paul, ez win for him. If it's drunk end of his rope Paul, I'd say a draw. I just imagine Paul being the Drunken Master of this world, particularly since he's good with the North God style and shithouse masterfully to victory. |
Nov 8, 2021 7:20 PM
#37
Actually the author himself has answered that question: If Eris can beat Paul with her first strike then it's Eris otherwise it's Paul. |
Nov 8, 2021 7:30 PM
#38
Is it me or the Anime makes the North God style seem to be the best sword style in terms of effectiveness. The others are a more traditional type of sword method while the North is more Like an assassin technique. |
Nov 8, 2021 7:35 PM
#39
LesterChowHang said: Actually the author himself has answered that question: If Eris can beat Paul with her first strike then it's Eris otherwise it's Paul. Oh wow I must have missed that thanks FYI!! |
Nov 8, 2021 7:54 PM
#40
NhtDesu said: Kelly32723 said: Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not I don't think Paul can bodied Rudy tbh since the strongest move Paul has is that slash, but it only manage to cut the panties (I forgot the move name but I remembered that it can only use one time because if someone can dodge that first time it's basically useless the second time for losing the element of suprise ). Rudy saw all his move so he could easily plan ahead and defeat Paul if he want like in the bar scene. In LN he basically solo the entire Paul's team and win without hurting anyone, so yeah he definately can make Paul look like Eris Part 2 no doubt Oh I forgot to answer this mb. Rudeus has an advantage in long-range fighting, but Paul is fast af and could probably close the gap. Once he gets close, Rudeus is at a big disadvantage. As seen from people like Ruijerd, if you’re unpredictable enough, Rudeus’ magical eye won’t have too much of an effect since it’ll just show a lot of possible paths that they can take in a fight. I heard Paul has like 3 sword styles or smth, so that makes him even more unpredictable. If Paul can get close, which he should be able to, I think Rudeus would get overwhelmed by the amount of images he sees with the magical eye, like he did with Ruijerd. I haven’t read the light novel, so I could be wrong though |
Nov 8, 2021 7:54 PM
#41
dabdabgoose said: Is it me or the Anime makes the North God style seem to be the best sword style in terms of effectiveness. The others are a more traditional type of sword method while the North is more Like an assassin technique. I don't think so because North God style depend heavily on environment while Sword god given the philosophy of defeating the enemy with a single blow, this style usually renders its users inept at defense and leaving with no counter-attacks |
Nov 8, 2021 7:55 PM
#42
Kelly32723 said: NhtDesu said: Kelly32723 said: Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not I don't think Paul can bodied Rudy tbh since the strongest move Paul has is that slash, but it only manage to cut the panties (I forgot the move name but I remembered that it can only use one time because if someone can dodge that first time it's basically useless the second time for losing the element of suprise ). Rudy saw all his move so he could easily plan ahead and defeat Paul if he want like in the bar scene. In LN he basically solo the entire Paul's team and win without hurting anyone, so yeah he definately can make Paul look like Eris Part 2 no doubt Oh I forgot to answer this mb. Rudeus has an advantage in long-range fighting, but Paul is fast af and could probably close the gap. Once he gets close, Rudeus is at a big disadvantage. As seen from people like Ruijerd, if you’re unpredictable enough, Rudeus’ magical eye won’t have too much of an effect since it’ll just show a lot of possible paths that they can take in a fight. I heard Paul has like 3 sword styles or smth, so that makes him even more unpredictable. If Paul can get close, which he should be able to, I think Rudeus would get overwhelmed by the amount of images he sees with the magical eye, like he did with Ruijerd. I haven’t read the light novel, so I could be wrong though Oh I need to add that I reread your response after sending this, and if Rudeus gets prep time, he could win |
Nov 8, 2021 8:05 PM
#43
Kelly32723 said: Kelly32723 said: NhtDesu said: Kelly32723 said: Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not I don't think Paul can bodied Rudy tbh since the strongest move Paul has is that slash, but it only manage to cut the panties (I forgot the move name but I remembered that it can only use one time because if someone can dodge that first time it's basically useless the second time for losing the element of suprise ). Rudy saw all his move so he could easily plan ahead and defeat Paul if he want like in the bar scene. In LN he basically solo the entire Paul's team and win without hurting anyone, so yeah he definately can make Paul look like Eris Part 2 no doubt Oh I forgot to answer this mb. Rudeus has an advantage in long-range fighting, but Paul is fast af and could probably close the gap. Once he gets close, Rudeus is at a big disadvantage. As seen from people like Ruijerd, if you’re unpredictable enough, Rudeus’ magical eye won’t have too much of an effect since it’ll just show a lot of possible paths that they can take in a fight. I heard Paul has like 3 sword styles or smth, so that makes him even more unpredictable. If Paul can get close, which he should be able to, I think Rudeus would get overwhelmed by the amount of images he sees with the magical eye, like he did with Ruijerd. I haven’t read the light novel, so I could be wrong though Oh I need to add that I reread your response after sending this, and if Rudeus gets prep time, he could win Sadly it wouldn't because Paul didn't know Rudeus had demon eyes so he don't know what limit of that eyes also Paul use everything he know to fight Rudeus when he switching 2 different sword style in just a few second (North God and Sword God) it mean he's already defeated when Rudeus can dodge that unless he using knife to throw at Rudeus like Garus did he had very slim chance. Don't forget that Rudeus had numerous way to keep distance to a close Combat situation, the only way to get close to Rudeus is make him distract and close the gap make him into panic mode |
Nov 8, 2021 8:07 PM
#44
NhtDesu said: Kelly32723 said: Kelly32723 said: NhtDesu said: Kelly32723 said: Rudeus, who beat Eris recently, was about to get bodied by Paul while he was drunk before he realized he was fighting Rudeus. Eris, like Rudeus, has no chance against Paul if he’s serious, drunk or not I don't think Paul can bodied Rudy tbh since the strongest move Paul has is that slash, but it only manage to cut the panties (I forgot the move name but I remembered that it can only use one time because if someone can dodge that first time it's basically useless the second time for losing the element of suprise ). Rudy saw all his move so he could easily plan ahead and defeat Paul if he want like in the bar scene. In LN he basically solo the entire Paul's team and win without hurting anyone, so yeah he definately can make Paul look like Eris Part 2 no doubt Oh I forgot to answer this mb. Rudeus has an advantage in long-range fighting, but Paul is fast af and could probably close the gap. Once he gets close, Rudeus is at a big disadvantage. As seen from people like Ruijerd, if you’re unpredictable enough, Rudeus’ magical eye won’t have too much of an effect since it’ll just show a lot of possible paths that they can take in a fight. I heard Paul has like 3 sword styles or smth, so that makes him even more unpredictable. If Paul can get close, which he should be able to, I think Rudeus would get overwhelmed by the amount of images he sees with the magical eye, like he did with Ruijerd. I haven’t read the light novel, so I could be wrong though Oh I need to add that I reread your response after sending this, and if Rudeus gets prep time, he could win Sadly it wouldn't because Paul didn't know Rudeus had demon eyes so he don't know what limit of that eyes also Paul use everything he know to fight Rudeus when he switching 2 different sword style in just a few second (North God and Sword God) it mean he's already defeated when Rudeus can dodge that unless he using knife to throw at Rudeus like Garus did he had very slim chance. Don't forget that Rudeus had numerous way to keep distance to a close Combat situation, the only way to get close to Rudeus is make him distract and close the gap make him into panic mode Oh good point, Paul already showed Rudeus most of his tricks, so it could go either way |
Nov 9, 2021 9:53 AM
#46
LesterChowHang said: Actually the author himself has answered that question: If Eris can beat Paul with her first strike then it's Eris otherwise it's Paul. Can you post the source for this statement? |
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Nov 9, 2021 10:09 AM
#47
I think currently in the anime Paul would win, but I think currently in the Manga, Eris would destroy him |
Nov 9, 2021 11:11 AM
#48
IljaWasTaken said: I think currently in the anime Paul would win, but I think currently in the Manga, Eris would destroy him LMAO IN THE MANGA... HAHA MANGA |
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Nov 9, 2021 11:46 AM
#49
RamanathPai said: paul had no clue of rudeus' identity in episode 16 and he almost recked him before the climax. If it were Eris, he'd have just made her hold his saké and spanked a million times before she could know what just happened. Doesn't matter if he's drunk. His skills and experience as an S class party's swordsman is definitely not a joke. I bet he'd even give Ruijerd a run for money. No, he stated in the novel that Rudeus was holding back and would've destroyed him if they kept on going. Even in the manga, Paul couldn't fight a C-rank monster that Eris can one-shot. Eris would definitely win. |
Nov 9, 2021 11:52 AM
#50
mechian said: Yeah, I'm also thinking Eris could take him. It kind of gets skipped out in the anime, but Rudeus makes comentary when Eris does her training that shes beyond gifted. I even think he said at somepoint that he could give Paul a run for his money in the novel, just dont remember the chapterRamanathPai said: paul had no clue of rudeus' identity in episode 16 and he almost recked him before the climax. If it were Eris, he'd have just made her hold his saké and spanked a million times before she could know what just happened. Doesn't matter if he's drunk. His skills and experience as an S class party's swordsman is definitely not a joke. I bet he'd even give Ruijerd a run for money. No, he stated in the novel that Rudeus was holding back and would've destroyed him if they kept on going. Even in the manga, Paul couldn't fight a C-rank monster that Eris can one-shot. Eris would definitely win. |
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