Sword Art Online (light novel)
| While not enjoying SAO I have to ask: why have the harem aspect? (besides the whole adding new girls for pandering and merch). Kirito has been consistently shown to be in a committed relationship with Asuna. Like, they're married in game. It is a major part of what little character he has. Since that's the case, why continue to add onto the spurned women's club that follows him around or introduce new possible love interests? I feel like you could easily have a character arc around one of the girls finally moving on from the crush that they had on Kirito and finding a new love interest. I feel like if Asuna ever got into a car accident and died, one of them would be at the funeral trying to jump Kirito. |
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| What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... |
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| Because harem bait and fan service with multiple different girls sales. |
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Mr_Giraffa said: What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... I mean it’s definitely every girl in each new arc has an absolute female boner for kirito, so I can see what op is getting at. Sinon, Alice, Rika, even his sister(not biological so it’s okay??) you name it they basically have a thing for him at first at least. But it’s not harem |
Leohere said: Mr_Giraffa said: What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... A lot of girls kinda fell for him especially in alicization total of (total of seven maybe) besides just because the mc likes a single girl dosnt make the show less harem and op's question was what was the need for them to like him Seven? What? Nobody loves him in Alicization, you may say Ronye, and i may agree, but it's still not sure if it's love or just senpai's respect (unlike Tiese that clearly loves Eugeo), and the fact that Asuna and Rika loves Kazuto doesn't make the show less harem because it isn't. This way even Shigatsu wa Kimi no or Clannad can be considered harem. |
Mr_GiraffaJun 30, 2021 8:49 AM
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LuffyMidoriya said: Mr_Giraffa said: What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... I mean it’s definitely every girl in each new arc has an absolute female boner for kirito, so I can see what op is getting at. Sinon, Alice, Rika, even his sister(not biological so it’s okay??) you name it they basically have a thing for him at first at least. But it’s not harem Shino doesn't love Kazuto, she just admire how he is strong to deal with his fears, unlike her that doesn't have the strengt to deal with her weapon's fear. Alice is like wtf? How can you think she loves him? Doesn't make any sense, she is just grateful that he taught her to face Quinella and fight for truth and justice, and admire him for it. Rika, yeah, she really loves him. Suguha loves him in the past due the time they passed together and moments they shared, like a childhood friend, but later she know that he loves only Asuna and want to be happy with his girlfriend, then she overcomes her love for Kazuto. In fact almost all of the girls in the anime just admire him, but is not love as many people want to think. |
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| To stroke the egos of the otakus it was targeting. "He's cool, wields two swords, super powerful, and has a gorgeous girlfriend but other girls love him too". |
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| So that losers can self-insert themselves to feel good. Aurthor knows what he's doing to get wider audience. |
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| um for shits and giggles? this is anime after all and a rather trashy one at that. Some people enjoy stuff like that. Just let it be. |
| i see several fans here trying to deny that SAO is a harem in any way. well thats both true and false in a sense. While most harem shows depict an MC with conflicted feelings for several female characters, SAO only ever depicts Asuna as Kirito's choice. Chicks falling for him is more fanservice than actual harem imo. Still I won't deny it can be called a harem. |
Goldfish12 said: Bc the harem genre sucks and so does this show besides Asuna, case closed No need to throw shade at a whole genre buddy😅 Mr_Giraffa said: What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... Lisbeth,silica,Sinon,suguha,Alice (plus like a whole implied set of extra girls on the underworld) and of course the best member... Kline 😂 KiR4T said: So that losers can self-insert themselves to feel good. Aurthor knows what he's doing to get wider audience. Lol I agree with, it's definetly just to bring in a wider audience but your signiture kinda undercuts your arguement😅 |
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KiR4T said: So that losers can self-insert themselves to feel good. Aurthor knows what he's doing to get wider audience. I agree w/ you 100%, that's why I think harem is kinda pathetic imo |
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| It didn't feel like a harem for me, just having the mc interact with other girls doesn't make it a harem. Tho I will say having other girls like him in a romantic way (specially his sister) was pointless. |
| How else are they gonna sell waifubait merch? These characters have to remain potentially available but still show the desire for romance so the weebs can identify with that role and buy stuff. |
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| Well, that’s a sort of cliche element of a narrative like this. I might be wrong, but I think that by adding harem elements in a non-harem anime, probably, it might increase the audience’s stimulus to discuss, ship characters with one another, choose their waifus and so forth. So, basically, a default trick to cause more uproar among the audience to stimulate the ratings. Once again, sorry, I know that my explanation is boring. |
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maha_thecat said: stop that fan fiction of yours, having a new girl in her arc is just like having a new character in every arc just like most anime showsWhile not enjoying SAO I have to ask: why have the harem aspect? (besides the whole adding new girls for pandering and merch). Kirito has been consistently shown to be in a committed relationship with Asuna. Like, they're married in game. It is a major part of what little character he has. Since that's the case, why continue to add onto the spurned women's club that follows him around or introduce new possible love interests? I feel like you could easily have a character arc around one of the girls finally moving on from the crush that they had on Kirito and finding a new love interest. I feel like if Asuna ever got into a car accident and died, one of them would be at the funeral trying to jump Kirito. AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK KKIRITO HAS GOT MANY GIRL (IN EACH AND EVERY ARC), IT IS WRONG. ••ASUNA, LIZ (AINCRAD) SUGUHA - SHE LIKED KIRITO BEFORE HE MEETING ASUNA IN SAO ( FAIRY DANCE) SINON ( PHANTOM BULLET) -- No Romantic way -------NO GIRLS IN THE CALIBUR ARC, MOTHER'S ROSARIO, ORDINAL SCALE, ----- ALICE DON'T LOVE KIRITO IN A ROMANTIC WAY |
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Mr_Giraffa said: yes exactly, only Asuna, Liz and Sugu love him romanticallyWhat harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... |
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DemonSagols said: Let's see what happens in progressive, because many LN readers say it give good development to both after <<FLOOR 2>> , also good romanceUmm and kirito developed the relationship with asuna really easily. I mean he should have struggled more to make her fell in love with him. He gets harem and I get single forever o(╥﹏╥) |
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OTAKU_RAJ said: DxD is very decent, it's better than SAO ig BECAUSE IN DXD THE PROTAGONIST HAVE THAT WITH THE GIRL-S INSTEAD OF VILLAINS RIGHT?THIS IS LITERALLY THE WORST ANIME I DON'T LIKE HOW EVERY GIRL WAS ASSAULTED BY VILLAIN TO SEASON 3. THAT MAKES ME HATE THIS ANIME. |
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Leohere said: No how tf in Alicization 7 of them fall for it,, you are Acting like, someone asking phone no. and they got engaged, Bruh, give me a break............ In Alicization there is only RONNIE who love Kirito, Alice don't love him in a romantic way neither Sortilena so how come ere are 7 girls???????? Did u ever watched SAO????Mr_Giraffa said: What harem? The only girls that loves Kazuto are Asuna and Rika, and formerly Suguha, besides Kazuto only loves Asuna, this is pretty much clear in all the show. Don't know how you see a harem in this... A lot of girls kinda fell for him especially in alicization total of (total of seven maybe) besides just because the mc likes a single girl dosnt make the show less harem and op's question was what was the need for them to like him |
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Mr_Giraffa said: YES EXACTLY, why tf they are so blockheaded, I don't understand.Leohere said: A lot of girls kinda fell for him especially in alicization total of (total of seven maybe) besides just because the mc likes a single girl dosnt make the show less harem and op's question was what was the need for them to like him Seven? What? Nobody loves him in Alicization, you may say Ronye, and i may agree, but it's still not sure if it's love or just senpai's respect (unlike Tiese that clearly loves Eugeo), and the fact that Asuna and Rika loves Kazuto doesn't make the show less harem because it isn't. This way even Shigatsu wa Kimi no or Clannad can be considered harem. Means Code Geass is also Harem, since all the school girls die for Lealouch, same goes with Fruits Basket, exactly same thing. Irregular at the magic HS, CLANNAD are also harems. Bakemonogatari is also in the count, Re:zero. If you agree all those above ^^^ I was ll say SAO is a harem |
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KiR4T said: the author didn't meant thisSo that losers can self-insert themselves to feel good. Aurthor knows what he's doing to get wider audience. |
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KiR4T said: the author didn't meant thisSo that losers can self-insert themselves to feel good. Aurthor knows what he's doing to get wider audience. |
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Zsaur said: Mr_Giraffa said: Seven? What? Nobody loves him in Alicization, you may say Ronye, and i may agree, but it's still not sure if it's love or just senpai's respect (unlike Tiese that clearly loves Eugeo), and the fact that Asuna and Rika loves Kazuto doesn't make the show less harem because it isn't. This way even Shigatsu wa Kimi no or Clannad can be considered harem. First, I just wanna say I love clannad. After Story is a masterpiece. But the first season is definitely a harem (albeit a really low key one). They literally even include different routes as special episodes and the show is based on a VN where you can get with any of the main girls. That said, in SAO (which I also love) Asuna, Suguha and Lisbeth are all very much in love with kirito. And there are VERY strong arguments to be made that Sinon and Alice feel the same. That's 5 girls minimum so yeah, he's got a bit of a harem The different routes are just like the Visual Novel, different Tomoyas with different choices and memories, so isn't the same Tomoya that loves all the girls, in each route he only love one girl. Clannad is not a harem, neither SAO or neither any VN adaptation with a main Heroine and a protagonist that only loves the main. And as i said, Asuna and Rika loves Kazuto, yes, and Suguha loved, but not anymore. Alice and Shino doesn't love him, i don't know why someone can even think that, is so nonsense. |
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maha_thecat said: many people like me enjoy that :) I have no problem with itWhile not enjoying SAO I have to ask: why have the harem aspect? (besides the whole adding new girls for pandering and merch). Kirito has been consistently shown to be in a committed relationship with Asuna. Like, they're married in game. It is a major part of what little character he has. Since that's the case, why continue to add onto the spurned women's club that follows him around or introduce new possible love interests? I feel like you could easily have a character arc around one of the girls finally moving on from the crush that they had on Kirito and finding a new love interest. I feel like if Asuna ever got into a car accident and died, one of them would be at the funeral trying to jump Kirito. |
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maha_thecat said: While not enjoying SAO I have to ask: why have the harem aspect? (besides the whole adding new girls for pandering and merch). Kirito has been consistently shown to be in a committed relationship with Asuna. Like, they're married in game. It is a major part of what little character he has. Since that's the case, why continue to add onto the spurned women's club that follows him around or introduce new possible love interests? I feel like you could easily have a character arc around one of the girls finally moving on from the crush that they had on Kirito and finding a new love interest. I feel like if Asuna ever got into a car accident and died, one of them would be at the funeral trying to jump Kirito. This is the reason why this series is f**cking cringe (except for the first part)... (Kirito's an A**hole by the way) |
Abysmal_Saint76 said: certifiedbinger said: not some mate, plenty enjoy its otherwise it will not be selling millions. It's not a trash eitherum for shits and giggles? this is anime after all and a rather trashy one at that. Some people enjoy stuff like that. Just let it be. i mean its good trash for me tbh. i enjoy it too. |
Abysmal_Saint76 said: Seems like you are tsundere type of SAO disliker and you are the 1st one I came across who said It's trash but I enjoy it and it is good also. I mean there's plenty of shows people think are trashy and yet they enjoy them. SAO falls in the same category for me. But yeah I do realise everyone online is a dick about it, but I'm just in it for fun. If I have a good time, I'm not against anything tbh. Speaking of that, I'm also hype for the movie; the theme song and everything slaps. |
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