Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: Because she isn't the main protagonist??? Itadaori is our main. And they always completely overshadow their peers.Yea but you happen to be ok with every other shounen protagonist BUT Nobara... because????? Yea, you know what I'm about to say... btw, if you're going to respond to my post, please quote my post. I may have something to say in return. The other female characters work better for me because they just have typical shounen backstories and motivations that side characters always get in a setting like this. Same as the male ones btw. Think about it this way. Out of everyone in JJK, only Itadori and Nobara come from backgrounds where fighting curses wasn't a thing. Both just randomly got powers and then got invited. It's the most typical shounen MC set-up. No Nobara is probably going to do something cool in today's episode. Everyone live their lives like they're the main character. A believable character would do that too, they don't live their lives and craft their motivations to cater to someone else... I don't get why that's a negative trait in Nobara. |
Yeah OP you really stepped in it. lol some suggestions... mostly based on what you like that we have both seen? Inuyasha- They never show the protagonist's panties. There are other characters that are sexual, but not every woman in the show is treated the same. It is pretty refreshing. Sadly there is a side character who is like Minata appart of the main cast (Miroku). I find him being hit pretty cathartic. I do consider it less than what I saw in Naruto or MHA. I think not having the weird pornified faces like with that Yandere character does help. Dororo- There is some sexy content but I don't recall this being the sexualization that I see in the likes of MHA and Naruto. But based on your list, I can't help but thinking maybe the better option is to not watch action shounen shows all the time. Maybe branch out a bit? You might find watching stuff made for women and girls to be really rewarding. My suggestions for things to try: Natsume's Book of Friends Card Captor Sakura Banana Fish (very adult rape topic warning but, it is treated as a horrible thing not the same as sexualization) Princess Jellyfish Chihayafuru Or anime originals like Wolf's Rain. (highly rec based on your list) |
Energetic-NovaMar 26, 2021 9:24 AM
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Borshta said: None of those looks like fanservice, you're just forcing it and I mentioned this above to other user like checking out a girl is fanservice now. The show has males and females you know. And a good shounen should be completely deprived of any of these instances? even tho there are male and females. Look fanservice destroys the whole scenario sometimes, but this is more natural then anything else, anime with characters having sexual desires are more natural, just without objectifying women. You're telling me this "doesn't count" and I'm "forcing it"? Are you crazy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLBYul1OQAg  |
Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: Because she isn't the main protagonist??? Itadaori is our main. And they always completely overshadow their peers.Yea but you happen to be ok with every other shounen protagonist BUT Nobara... because????? Yea, you know what I'm about to say... btw, if you're going to respond to my post, please quote my post. I may have something to say in return. The other female characters work better for me because they just have typical shounen backstories and motivations that side characters always get in a setting like this. Same as the male ones btw. Think about it this way. Out of everyone in JJK,only Itadori and Nobara come from backgrounds where fighting curses wasn't a thing. Both just randomly got powers and then got invited. It's the most typical shounen MC set-up. No Nobara is probably going to do something cool in today's episode. Nobara was fighting curses in the countryside... She didn't suddenly gain powers... That's why Gojo said that Nobara should learn that curses in a big city are more dangerous than curses in the countryside in ep.3. |
SoukaTheRealMar 26, 2021 10:05 AM
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Tirihas said: Borshta said: None of those looks like fanservice, you're just forcing it and I mentioned this above to other user like checking out a girl is fanservice now. The show has males and females you know. And a good shounen should be completely deprived of any of these instances? even tho there are male and females. Look fanservice destroys the whole scenario sometimes, but this is more natural then anything else, anime with characters having sexual desires are more natural, just without objectifying women. You're telling me this "doesn't count" and I'm "forcing it"? Are you crazy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLBYul1OQAg I didn't say it doesn't count, but "you're forcing it", so every shot like this will be considered fanservice. Btw there is one little exposure scene in ch133, are we gonna consider that fanservice Did you even read my other para. I still stand my point she isn't oversexualized or objectified. kiruaki said: Borshta said: None of those looks like fanservice, you're just forcing it and I mentioned this above to other user like checking out a girl is fanservice now. The show has males and females you know. And a good shounen should be completely deprived of any of these instances? even tho there are male and females. Look fanservice destroys the whole scenario sometimes, but this is more natural then anything else, anime with characters having sexual desires are more natural, just without objectifying women. i cant believe what are saying omg. having sexual desires does not mean it's okay to touch or look at them without consent. that's like the bare minimum dude... if you are putting it something like borderline sexual harassment in an anime then you are normalizing it, which makes it a huge real problem, which is why that's such a big problem in japan:/ Wait dude, did you twist my words into saying "sexual harassment is fine". Yup sure did I say "men like to touch women without their consent, and it's totally fine". How did you even get this point? where did I say touching women without their consent, you are just downplaying me now. I even said objectifying women is wrong and fanservice destroys the scene. lmao I don't know what you're trying to get out of this convo, I said having sexual desires is completely normal, "normalizing sexual harassment" you're just acting so conceited. Yeah this is just getting stupid now. |
ShanAsuna said: And everyone who doesn't take themselves too seriously understands where they stand lol. I'm sorry but they're supposed to be friends and go to the same school, fight for their lives together. Itadori is the key to saving everyone, not her, he's the one in a whole different league. That's why having her act as a traditional shonen MC feels off, when she isn't one, like very clearly. It's not that believable to me. If an assistant in whatever field would act like they're the most important and rule the place, I would call that misplaced confidence.Kaasfondue said: Because she isn't the main protagonist??? Itadaori is our main. And they always completely overshadow their peers. The other female characters work better for me because they just have typical shounen backstories and motivations that side characters always get in a setting like this. Same as the male ones btw. Think about it this way. Out of everyone in JJK, only Itadori and Nobara come from backgrounds where fighting curses wasn't a thing. Both just randomly got powers and then got invited. It's the most typical shounen MC set-up. No Nobara is probably going to do something cool in today's episode. Everyone live their lives like they're the main character. A believable character would do that too, they don't live their lives and craft their motivations to cater to someone else... I don't get why that's a negative trait in Nobara. What do you mean by craft motivation to cater to someone else? It's not about that since they're all doing the same job but for different reasons. I'm talking about the relationship on the workplace not being believable. Like, in all the fights so far she gets saved or loses. It's just cringe to see someone act like this in a setting where they're this overshadowed. SoukaTheReal said: Yeah but her backstory wasnt really explained properly. We didn't learn who teached her about curses and how to fight. So as far as introduction goes it's about the same. Itadori also had superhuman strenght without any explanations, we only know his grandpa must have known something.Kaasfondue said: Because she isn't the main protagonist??? Itadaori is our main. And they always completely overshadow their peers. The other female characters work better for me because they just have typical shounen backstories and motivations that side characters always get in a setting like this. Same as the male ones btw. Think about it this way. Out of everyone in JJK,only Itadori and Nobara come from backgrounds where fighting curses wasn't a thing. Both just randomly got powers and then got invited. It's the most typical shounen MC set-up. No Nobara is probably going to do something cool in today's episode. Nobara was fighting curses in the countryside... She didn't suddenly got powers... That's why Gojo said that Nobara should learn that curses in a big city are more dangerous than curses in the countryside in ep.3. |
KaasfondueMar 26, 2021 10:22 AM
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Borshta said: I didn't say it doesn't count, but "you're forcing it", so every shot like this will be considered fanservice. Btw there is one little exposure scene in ch133, are we gonna consider that fanservice Did you even read my other para. I still stand my point she isn't oversexualized or objectified So we're really going to ignore the Lisa Lisa youtube link I posted? Fugo LITERALLY trips and falls face-first into Trish's chest. That is the QUINTESSENTIAL dumb fanservice moment. I don't even know what to say. Like, what is wrong with you? Wait no hold on. We are NOT moving past the fact you think ogling tits isn't objectifying/sexualizing.(with her nipple out!) It isn't even a sneaky glance, they're flatout ogling. |
TirihasMar 26, 2021 10:25 AM
Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: And everyone who doesn't take themselves too seriously understands where they stand lol. I'm sorry but they're supposed to be friends and go to the same school, fight for their lives together. Itadori is the key to saving everyone, not her, he's the one in a whole different league. That's why having her act as a traditional shonen MC feels off, when she isn't one, like very clearly. It's not that believable to me. If an assistant in whatever field would act like they're the most important and rule the place, I would call that misplaced confidence.Everyone live their lives like they're the main character. A believable character would do that too, they don't live their lives and craft their motivations to cater to someone else... I don't get why that's a negative trait in Nobara. What do you mean by craft motivation to cater to someone else? It's not about that since they're all doing the same job but for different reasons. I'm talking about the relationship on the workplace not being believable. SoukaTheReal said: Yeah but her backstory wasnt really explained properly. We didn't learn who teached her about curses and how to fight. So as far as introduction goes it's about the same. Itadori also had superhuman strenght without any explanations, we only know his grandpa must have known something.Nobara was fighting curses in the countryside... She didn't suddenly got powers... That's why Gojo said that Nobara should learn that curses in a big city are more dangerous than curses in the countryside in ep.3. The series isn't done, you'll have the explanations later on, perhaps. You're not going to have the answers for everything at the beginning of a series. |
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Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: And everyone who doesn't take themselves too seriously understands where they stand lol. I'm sorry but they're supposed to be friends and go to the same school, fight for their lives together. Itadori is the key to saving everyone, not her, he's the one in a whole different league. That's why having her act as a traditional shonen MC feels off, when she isn't one, like very clearly. It's not that believable to me. If an assistant in whatever field would act like they're the most important and rule the place, I would call that misplaced confidence.Everyone live their lives like they're the main character. A believable character would do that too, they don't live their lives and craft their motivations to cater to someone else... I don't get why that's a negative trait in Nobara. What do you mean by craft motivation to cater to someone else? It's not about that since they're all doing the same job but for different reasons. I'm talking about the relationship on the workplace not being believable. SoukaTheReal said: Yeah but her backstory wasnt really explained properly. We didn't learn who teached her about curses and how to fight. So as far as introduction goes it's about the same. Itadori also had superhuman strenght without any explanations, we only know his grandpa must have known something.Nobara was fighting curses in the countryside... She didn't suddenly got powers... That's why Gojo said that Nobara should learn that curses in a big city are more dangerous than curses in the countryside in ep.3. That's such an uninspiring outlook on life. Every single MC in every single story started out with "misplaced confidence". Let me just list a handful of examples off like a the whole freaking list: Ash Ketchum, Naruto, Luffy, Eren... Every single one of them set out to be the BEST pokemon master, ninja, pirate, giant slayer... whatever it is. They were definitely biting off more than they can chew, they got made fun of and their opponents would say exactly what you say... "misplaced confidence", "who does this country bumpkin/nobody think he is", "this wimp is fighting above his weight class" etc. etc. But the whole point and spirit of shounen anime is to have that unbeatable optimism, passion and indomitable spirit, to have the courage to strive to be the best even when you're just a nobody. None of these characters (from their POV) knew they're the main character to any story. Every character chart their own story and the ones who become the main characters are those who have the guts to set out to be one in the first place. It's kind of sad that an anime-lover doesn't understand that... when that's kind of like the perennial theme of animes (especially shounen). |
ShanAsuna said: Funny when we're talking about JJK right now. Where the MC starts off great and is rightfully confident. Lol I rest my case.Kaasfondue said: And everyone who doesn't take themselves too seriously understands where they stand lol. I'm sorry but they're supposed to be friends and go to the same school, fight for their lives together. Itadori is the key to saving everyone, not her, he's the one in a whole different league. That's why having her act as a traditional shonen MC feels off, when she isn't one, like very clearly. It's not that believable to me. If an assistant in whatever field would act like they're the most important and rule the place, I would call that misplaced confidence. What do you mean by craft motivation to cater to someone else? It's not about that since they're all doing the same job but for different reasons. I'm talking about the relationship on the workplace not being believable. Yeah but her backstory wasnt really explained properly. We didn't learn who teached her about curses and how to fight. So as far as introduction goes it's about the same. Itadori also had superhuman strenght without any explanations, we only know his grandpa must have known something. That's such an uninspiring outlook on life. Every single MC in every single story started out with "misplaced confidence". Let me just list a handful of examples off like a the whole freaking list: Ash Ketchum, Naruto, Luffy, Eren... Every single one of them set out to the the BEST pokemon master, ninja, pirate, giant slayer... whatever it is. They were definitely biting off more than they can chew, they got made fun of and their opponents would say exactly what you say... "misplaced confidence", "who does this country bumpkin/nobody think they are", "this wimp is fighting above his weight class" etc. etc. But the whole point and spirit of shounen anime is to have that unbeatable optimism, passion and indomitable spirit, to have the courage to strive to be the best even when you're just a nobody. None of these characters (from their POV) knew they're the main character to any story. Every character chart their own story and the ones who become the main characters are those who have the guts to set out to be one in the first place. It's kind of sad that an anime-lover doesn't understand that... when that's kind of like the perennial theme of animes (especially shounen). |
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Crow_Black said: I really hate how people are so hung up about sexualisation of characters like good lord its just a damn drawing and they have no rights at all whatsoever. Yea the drawings have no right.. but the audience have the right to like or dislike anything they watch and some members of the audience don't like seeing female characters being used as wank-baits all the time. What's the problem? |
Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: Funny when we're talking about JJK right now. Where the MC starts off great and is rightfully confident. Lol I rest my case.That's such an uninspiring outlook on life. Every single MC in every single story started out with "misplaced confidence". Let me just list a handful of examples off like a the whole freaking list: Ash Ketchum, Naruto, Luffy, Eren... Every single one of them set out to the the BEST pokemon master, ninja, pirate, giant slayer... whatever it is. They were definitely biting off more than they can chew, they got made fun of and their opponents would say exactly what you say... "misplaced confidence", "who does this country bumpkin/nobody think they are", "this wimp is fighting above his weight class" etc. etc. But the whole point and spirit of shounen anime is to have that unbeatable optimism, passion and indomitable spirit, to have the courage to strive to be the best even when you're just a nobody. None of these characters (from their POV) knew they're the main character to any story. Every character chart their own story and the ones who become the main characters are those who have the guts to set out to be one in the first place. It's kind of sad that an anime-lover doesn't understand that... when that's kind of like the perennial theme of animes (especially shounen). You have no case. Yuuji started off as a newbie who couldn't even fight off a level 2 cursed spirit that was attracted by the Sukuna finger he swallowed in episode 1. And even if I'd humour you and say yea he started off as Gojou... so what? What does that prove? What has that got to do with Nobara's confidence being a negative trait (according to you)? |
Crow_Black said: ShanAsuna said: Yea the drawings have no right.. but the audience have the right to like or dislike anything they watch and some members of the audience don't like seeing female characters being used as wank-baits all the time. What's the problem? The problem is that people as i have said need to fucking get over themselves over a drawing and stop feeling so self concious and project your insecurties over a drawing. But why don't you get over yourself, let people voice their opinions and stop thinking you're the only who can have them? |
ShanAsunaMar 26, 2021 10:35 AM
Crow_Black said: ShanAsuna said: But why don't you get over yourself and let people voice their opinions and stop thinking you're the only who can have them? You do realize even women like fanservice type characters right? When did I say all women hate "fanservice type characters" (whatever that means)? There are just people, plenty of people (judging by these threads) that think fanservice is largely unnecessary and most of the time, cringe. So these people have decided to share their opinions, what's the big deal? All I see is a buncha incels with their panties in a bunch because not everyone enjoys wanking to fictional 2D characters. |
ShanAsunaMar 26, 2021 10:43 AM
Crow_Black said: ShanAsuna said: When did I say all women hate "fanservice type characters" (whatever that means) There are just people, plenty of people (judging by these threads) that think fanservice is largely unnecessary and most of the time, cringe. So these people have decided to share their opinions, what's the big deal? Fanservice doesn't hurt at all in reality and you yourself the individual is allowing yourself to be hurt by it. Logic, please. I don't have to be hurt by a piece of shit to dislike a piece of shit. |
| I don’t know if anyone commented this already since I’m not going to read through this cancer thread but have you tried watching anything other than battle shounen? legit this is really only an issue in that specific genre and even then it’s really a select few when you view it from unbiased perspective |
snowykevinMar 26, 2021 10:47 AM
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Crow_Black said: ShanAsuna said: Logic, please. I don't have to be hurt by a piece of shit to dislike a piece of shit. The only thing that is illogical is this entire thread because in reality its clearly just a blog style post created by nothing but petty insecurity and i have nothing else further to say. You have nothing else to say because there is not much in your head, definitely not logic to say the least. The weirdest thing about incels is, you guys can find insecurity from anything... even from 2D fictional characters... but not everyone is like you. |
Crow_Black said: ShanAsuna said: You have nothing else to say because there is not much in your head, definitely not logic to say the least. The weirdest thing about incels is, you guys can find insecurity from anything... even from 2D fictional characters... but not everyone is like you. The moment you start insulting and lableing people is the moment your argument has already been lost and now i have nothing else further to say as well too. Umm, you had nothing further to say the last time too.... I guess you don't understand what those words mean, "having nothing to say". Nah, I don't take the high road man I love bashing idiots online... it's probably because I'm too nice a person irl, even to stupid people. But it's all pent-up, you see, this annoyance at idiocy.. so it's great getting to let loose on idiots online with an anonymous account. |
ShanAsuna said: Starting off as a newbie is different from starting as an underdog like some of those others you mentioned. He already had superhuman strength and could fight off curses without knowing about the supernatural prior to that. And his personality is much more relaxed, making his training and bringing out his potential a breeze compared to other shounen MCs. Kaasfondue said: Funny when we're talking about JJK right now. Where the MC starts off great and is rightfully confident. Lol I rest my case. You have no case. Yuuji started off as a newbie who couldn't even fight off a level 2 cursed spirit that was attracted by the Sukuna finger he swallowed in episode 1. And even if I'd humour you and say yea he started off as Gojou... so what? What does that prove? What has that got to do with Nobara's confidence being a negative trait (according to you)? I have a problem with how Nobara's character functions in this story. Her being confident in itself isn't a negative trait per se (except situations where it could lead to mistakes). It's just not very believable in some aspects, because we haven't seen her reflect on herself that much yet apart from that small scene in the child hostage situation. We're really talking Messi vs some unknown player from a mid team here. What is this shonen spirit propaganda lol. I never took it that serious. It's a reflection of some of the toxic attitudes in Japanese school and work culture if anything. Nobara is an example that not being the best should be just as respectful and fine too. Striving to be "the best" version of yourself, should also mean being content with your limits you have. |
KaasfondueMar 26, 2021 12:06 PM
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Kaasfondue said: I have a problem with how Nobara's character functions in this story. Her being confident in itself isn't a negative trait per se (except situations where it could lead to mistakes). It's just not very believable in some aspects, because we haven't seen her reflect on herself that much yet apart from that small scene in the child hostage situation. We're really talking Messi vs some unknown player from a mid team here. What is this shonen spirit propaganda lol. I never took it that serious. It's a reflection of some of the toxic attitudes in Japanese school and work culture if anything. Nobara is an example that not being the best should be just as respectful and fine too. Honestly I like Nobara's confdence in herself. If anything she's compensating for Yuji and Megumi's(mostly Megumi lol) lack of it. Her high-and-mighty attitude is more of a joke/defensive measure. She drops it to genuinely thank Itadori for saving her in the recent episode. Even when he grabs her and runs, she doesn't protest but immediately covers his back. Her faith in herself just kind of makes sense for her character. She mentions this episode that if her personal philosophy is that you have no influence on her if you haven't been "invited" to a "seat in her life". But Yuji's managed to bring his own seat into her life and she lets him influence her decisions and values his opinions. So yeah I'm not bothered by it. Borshta said: Yeah it isn't moving past the point of perversion and fanservice, well simply if you consider every little perversion instance as fanservice then yes both are. If you want to know fanservice it will be fire force or out of proportion nami. And are you serious, are female characters in jojo objectified and for fanservice? imo female characters in jojo aren't like this. I think No point in dragging anymore, have a nice day/night. Right back at you. We're not going to agree with each other. |
TirihasMar 26, 2021 12:23 PM
Tirihas said: Sounds good, I'm still at episode 19.Kaasfondue said: I have a problem with how Nobara's character functions in this story. Her being confident in itself isn't a negative trait per se (except situations where it could lead to mistakes). It's just not very believable in some aspects, because we haven't seen her reflect on herself that much yet apart from that small scene in the child hostage situation. We're really talking Messi vs some unknown player from a mid team here. What is this shonen spirit propaganda lol. I never took it that serious. It's a reflection of some of the toxic attitudes in Japanese school and work culture if anything. Nobara is an example that not being the best should be just as respectful and fine too. Honestly I like Nobara's confdence in herself. If anything she's compensating for Yuji and Megumi's(mostly Megumi lol) lack of it. Her high-and-mighty attitude is more of a joke/defensive measure. She drops it to genuinely thank Itadori for saving her in the recent episode. Even when he grabs her and runs, she doesn't protest but immediately covers his back. Her faith in herself just kind of makes sense for her character. She mentions this episode that if her personal philosophy is that you have no influence on her if you haven't been "invited" to a "seat in her life". But Yuji's managed to bring his own seat into her life and she lets him influence her decisions and values his opinions. So yeah I'm not bothered by it. |
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Kaasfondue said: Sounds good, I'm still at episode 19. Ah sorry, thought you were caught up. I guess my "wait 3 hours" comment is invalidated lol. Hope you get some time to catch-up soon. It was a really nice finale. |
Kaasfondue said: ShanAsuna said: Starting off as a newbie is different from starting as an underdog like some of those others you mentioned. He already had superhuman strength and could fight off curses without knowing about the supernatural prior to that. And his personality is much more relaxed, making his training and bringing out his potential a breeze compared to other shounen MCs. You have no case. Yuuji started off as a newbie who couldn't even fight off a level 2 cursed spirit that was attracted by the Sukuna finger he swallowed in episode 1. And even if I'd humour you and say yea he started off as Gojou... so what? What does that prove? What has that got to do with Nobara's confidence being a negative trait (according to you)? I have a problem with how Nobara's character functions in this story. Her being confident in itself isn't a negative trait per se (except situations where it could lead to mistakes). It's just not very believable in some aspects, because we haven't seen her reflect on herself that much yet apart from that small scene in the child hostage situation. We're really talking Messi vs some unknown player from a mid team here. What is this shonen spirit propaganda lol. I never took it that serious. It's a reflection of some of the toxic attitudes in Japanese school and work culture if anything. Nobara is an example that not being the best should be just as respectful and fine too. Striving to be "the best" version of yourself, should also mean being content with your limits you have. Well, I guess I can't relate to your "know your limits, know your place" outlook in life. I've always been a go-getter and thus far, I've mostly gotten what I've set out to get. *shrugs* When I try something new, yea, I get underestimated in the beginning but almost always end up on top so... Sorry can't relate. I love Nobara. Go-getters rock. |
SakayanagiCOTE said: ShanAsuna said: When did I say all women hate "fanservice type characters" (whatever that means)? There are just people, plenty of people (judging by these threads) that think fanservice is largely unnecessary and most of the time, cringe. So these people have decided to share their opinions, what's the big deal? All I see is a buncha incels with their panties in a bunch because not everyone enjoys wanking to fictional 2D characters. You made a lot of valid points. I like fanservice when it's mostly limited to ecchi, but I don't really mind it here and there. However, I don't think that most battle shonen have too much fanservice. When we look at crap like Fire Force and SDS that go way too far, I would agree, Then we look at shows like MHA, which I would consider to have moderate fs that doesn't really detract from the plot. They have bath scenes and stuff, but it's not a constantly occurring thing and it's really not that bad. I feel like most battle shonen (barring a few like FF) usually only have decent amounts of fs in the first place. Look, I don't like fanservice but I tolerate them in shounens because I like shounens, there are other aspects of shounen that I love enough for me to just desensitise myself to or tune out fanservice. But it's just refreshing for people like me to encounter JJK because it manages to be a GREAT shounen without relying on fanservice. So we have a little thread here sharing this opinion and our love for the series. I don't know what's the deal with this bunch of defensive we-want-wank-waifus club members that have to barge in here picking a fight. Like, go to a thread for some ecchi show and do their circle jerks. Why are they here trying to silence a different opinion? |
el3mel said: ShanAsuna said: Look, I don't like fanservice but I tolerate them in shounens because I like shounens, there are other aspects of shounen that I love enough for me to just desensitise myself to or tune out fanservice. But it's just refreshing for people like me to encounter JJK because it manages to be a GREAT shounen without relying on fanservice. So we have a little thread here sharing this opinion and our love for the series. I don't know what's the deal with this bunch of defensive we-want-wank-waifus club members that have to barge in here picking a fight. Like, go to a thread for some ecchi show and do their circle jerks. Why are they here trying to silence a different opinion? No offense, but isn't this Kallen from Code Geass in your profile picture or am I mistaking her for another character ? Because as far as I'm concerned she was oversexualized as hell in this anime. She was and I thought that was one of the most ridiculous bits about Code Geass. I never understood why they had to use Kallen for fanservice when she's such a badass character with a great backstory and full personality. |
SakayanagiCOTE said: ShanAsuna said: Look, I don't like fanservice but I tolerate them in shounens because I like shounens, there are other aspects of shounen that I love enough for me to just desensitise myself to or tune out fanservice. But it's just refreshing for people like me to encounter JJK because it manages to be a GREAT shounen without relying on fanservice. So we have a little thread here sharing this opinion and our love for the series. I don't know what's the deal with this bunch of defensive we-want-wank-waifus club members that have to barge in here picking a fight. Like, go to a thread for some ecchi show and do their circle jerks. Why are they here trying to silence a different opinion? That's fine. I think most people here have already pointed out that many other battle shonen do that too and JJK would fall into that category. Your use of personal attacks and the word "incel" is kinda stupid though. I don't understand why people need to resort to personal attacks after making a fair point because it becomes harder for them to get taken seriously. No one in here is "circle jerking" and I think that it's just hard for some people to see it through a females perspective (coming from a male who doesn't care about fs at all). The point I was trying to make, was that many battle shonen don't have consistent fs. It's stuff that's here and there' and yes JJK is one of the lesser ones in that regard. But there are other ones that have little-no fs or moderate fs so JJK isn't some sort of pioneer in that matter. I don't take the high road... because people who go low will just always go low and you going high is never going to get through. I believe in fighting toxicity with greater toxicity. They come here picking a fight with me, then don't start crying about me being mean. I'll just laugh in their faces. |
Bladepower92 said: Is this your first anime lmfao I'll just copy & paste my last reply to another user since you clearly don't bother to read "Look, I don't like fanservice but I tolerate them in shounens because I like shounens, there are other aspects of shounen that I love enough for me to just desensitise myself to or tune out fanservice. But it's just refreshing for people like me to encounter JJK because it manages to be a GREAT shounen without relying on fanservice. So we have a little thread here sharing this opinion and our love for the series. I don't know what's the deal with this bunch of defensive we-want-wank-waifus club members that have to barge in here picking a fight. Like, go to a thread for some ecchi show and do their circle jerks. Why are they here trying to silence a different opinion?" |
| I don't see any problem with sexualizing females, it's the nature call |
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I don't think so, I think it's an artificial human creation for sad little incels who can't get real women to notice them in real life. It's an economic creation due to market demand. |
| Bring the tent because the Circus is set up. This topic is hilarious, so are you. @ Topic even if was the case, which isn't, does it really matter? It has a lot of ripped shirtless men and Fujobait, which no one really, or shouldn't, care about. |
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