How old is Rudy?
He is 7 years old
10.9%
41
He is 34 years old
22.3%
84
He is both 7 years old while being 34 years old
47.5%
179
I don't care about his age
19.4%
73
377 votes
| In my eyes, I think he is both 7 years old while also being 34 years old based on the anime so far. We know that his past self was reincarnated in Rudy, so he has all the knowledge from his previous life, making him seem like his age is 34 years old. Still, on the other hand, emotionally seems like a 7-year-old since he had no social life. Plus, if he was mentally 34 years old there is no way he can learn all this knowledge in 8 years. But, once again he makes conscious choices as a 34-year-old, so I'm on the fence for this. That is my opinion on this topic *IMPORTANT* Please for the love of god do not turn this forum into whether he is a Pedo or not. I BEG OF YOU. Regardless if he is a Pedo or not, the perverted stuff he does is wrong, since it still counts as a sexual assault, which isn't any worse than Pedo. We all agree on that point, so CASE CLOSED. You don't need to go there and flex your oh-so-high morality. Just tell me how you feel about his age. Thank you. Have a nice day |
skysurf said: You forgot the most obvious choice: He is mentally 34 years old + whatever years he has lived in the new world. When his child body is 7, he has lived 41 years in total. When his child body is 10, he has lived 44 years in total. etc. There is no point in that. If you believe that he is 34 years old solely, then there is no point in putting any more ages above. Right? No point in being redundant. Redundancy is only needed if your trying to make a point like an inspirational message. I'm asking a question. So, that is not an obvious choice. |
skysurf said: _Lyborick_ said: There is no point in that. If you believe that he is 34 years old solely, then there is no point in putting any more ages above. Right? No point in being redundant. Redundancy is only needed if your trying to make a point like an inspirational message. I'm asking a question. So, that is not an obvious choice. I DO NOT think he's mentally 34 years old. At child body aged 7 (which is your question), he's already mentally 41 years old, which is not an option in your poll. When I say 34 years old, you can imply that you only view Rudy as an old dude with a mature mentality whether he is 34 years old or 41 years old. Right? Or do I need to explicitly write it out. You're not a baby that needs to be fed information with a spoon. If you are one please grow up and understand what implying means. |
| He is age at which he got isekai trucked+ however many years old he is in his new body. 7+34=41 |
rohan121Feb 23, 2021 10:47 AM
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BigNut666 said: What the fuck is going on in this thread is it already going to devolve into toxicity I have no idea Where is the toxicity? All I said was there is no point in explicitly stating every age Rudy is. If I did it would be a waste of time. If you want a current example of this, let's talk about the gorilla glue girl, and how she put gorilla glue on her hair because on the labels there are no labels stating "do not put it on hair." Do you think there should have been a label like that? So if apply that same logic, we get the same answer. |
| It is a fact that he is a pedophile. The anime showed him jacking off to recorded footage of his niece in the bathroom he captured himself with a hidden camera. Same as the WN. His concious transported to a newborn baby, thus he is now a 42 y/o inside an 8 year old's body. He still gets all the benefits of a young body, for example learning/memorizing faster and easier. |
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skysurf said: @_Lyborick_ In any case, it's a work of fiction in a fantasy setting and the author wanted him to have an adult mind in the body of a child (for whatever creep purposes). This is clear is so many ways, just on the top of my head: even in the body of a NEWBORN, he already has an adult mindset by thinking that his parents are younger than him, making sexual remarks about his mother's breasts, then as an infant stealing/sniffing/worshipping panties, not crying as a kid, groping and sexually harassing little girls, etc. ALL THOSE are stuff you don't expect to see in a real child mindset. Even in the anime you got the creepy adult voice to make this even more clear. The concept is simple, adult mind in the body of a child... some people coming with all kinds of fan fiction theories just to make MC's actions more acceptable are dismissing all the elements that the author wrote to convey his fantasy idea... Talking about "maturity level" is also not a big comfort. After all, if you go to court for questionable behavior as a middle aged man, it's not like you will get a free out-of-jail pass by simply bringing arguments of how immature you think you are. Great, you actually have a decent input into the forum. What you bring up are pretty good points to defend your claim. But in the reincarnated world he is physically 7 years old and has the maturity of a 41-year-old, so technically the court would not be able to jail him. Probs gonna send him to the reform centers. In my view, I see those points you made, but I see also valid points of him being 7 years old, so in the end, I chose to be on the middle of the fence. Still, if I had to be on one end or the other, I would slightly lean more towards the older age. |
Kaasfondue said: It is a fact that he is a pedophile. The anime showed him jacking off to recorded footage of his niece in the bathroom he captured himself with a hidden camera. Same as the WN. His concious transported to a newborn baby, thus he is now a 42 y/o inside an 8 year old's body. He still gets all the benefits of a young body, for example learning/memorizing faster and easier. Did you not read what I said... Please for the love of God don't delve into the topic of Pedophilia. Why can't people just follow rules? |
| He is 34+7 in my opinion. I think "he's both" option kind of doesn't make sense. One can argue that he's 7yo, because that's the age of the body of a kid he was reborn as. But mentally he's definitely 7+34, so my final is 41. (Hence why he's pedo in my opinion xD) |
| He's physically limited to a 7 year old body but 100% mentally a now 41 year old man It's another thing entirely if he was truly reincarnated with only the vaguest memories of a past life. |
UberBatFeb 23, 2021 12:11 PM
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murisio said: he's a 7 year old but with a more mature way of thinking. As he said, hormonal responses to stimulus correlate well with the ones of a 7 year old so that's my answer What 7 year old thinks like that though? |
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| I consider him a 7-year-old child with the mind of a 41yo, instead of a 41yo trapped in the body of a child. Why do I think so? Unlike morons that twist their interpretation of the series to fit their personal bias, I acknowledge the objective facts the narrative presents. Case in point, the first one is that his original body is dead. Typically, when people die, as in their soul leaves their lifeless body, you stop counting their age. Right? So next comes the question, is the main character´s mentality the same he had before he died? Well, the answer is no. Why? Because, for some reason he does not feel sexually attracted to Zenith despite her body being very much to his liking. Not a doctor, but I doubt hormones or other physiological explanation accounts for that, since he is a baby. Therefore, it is shown in the narrative that the individual Rudeus Greyrat is at the very least a mixture between the isekai fetus and the isekaied soul. Since he´s not the same as he was, his body is that of a newborn and will thus experience puberty, hormonal growth, etc. I regard him as a new life that has the memories of a past life. Not a direct continuation of that life in a fresh vessel and environment. At the very end of the story, this is also the answer the author comes up with to the original question. _Lyborick_ said: Regardless if he is a Pedo or not, the perverted stuff he does is wrong, since it still counts as a sexual assault, which isn't any worse than Pedo. We all agree on that point, so CASE CLOSED. I consider pre-death him a pedophile and he was because he was masturbating to the pictures of his niece which was a minor. There isn´t any possible debate there. However, count me out on your "we agree the perverted stuff is wrong." To me, it´s a non-issue. Considering the setting of the story ,which is the medieval times, what we now classify as sexual assault was little more than child´s play. And Eris, the one "sexually assaulted", takes it that way because that is the common mindset of nobility in the story. |
BloodriverFeb 23, 2021 1:34 PM
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skysurf said: _Lyborick_ said: in the reincarnated world he is physically 7 years old and has the maturity of a 41-year-old ^ Exactly. It's good to see that you also understand that. I agree, and that's the option you missed in the poll, as others have also pointed out. It just seemed like the poll options were skewed towards a fuzzy argument instead of separating mental and physical age from the beginning. Not that MAL poll results are indication of anything anyways lol but it can help at least set the initial conversation argument. Okay, now I get what you meant with your earlier posts. You should have stated it more clearly. Sorry about being a bit too aggressive. Is there any way that I can modify a poll? This my first time doing a poll for a forum. If not I still think most people can imply what I meant by when I mean he is 34 years old. |
| If instead of reincarnating he possessed the body of a child, you wouldn't say he was a child in that case right? Same thing here. Or to get a lil more specific I guess, If a 34 year old anti social neet possessed a child, he is still that neet yeah? |
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| So you're the same guy lol. Bloodriver said: Why do I think so? Unlike morons that twist their interpretation of the series to fit their personal bias, I acknowledge the objective facts the narrative presents. > Proceeds to interpret ''Still, getting to suck on a hottie's tits for free rules. It didn't turn me on, though. Maybe 'cause she's my mom?'' as ''objective proof'' that the story is telling us our MC actually became a different person and is not the same. You're funny, bro. |
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Kaasfondue said: So you're the same guy lol. Bloodriver said: Why do I think so? Unlike morons that twist their interpretation of the series to fit their personal bias, I acknowledge the objective facts the narrative presents. > Proceeds to interpret ''Still, getting to suck on a hottie's tits for free rules. It didn't turn me on, though. Maybe 'cause she's my mom?'' as ''objective proof'' that the story is telling us our MC actually became a different person and is not the same. You're funny, bro. Thank you for replying to my post and providing a counterargument so that we can expand on my analysis and help me ascertain other perspectives. Oh wait, there´s none. Too bad, I thought for a second there was meaning in further discussing the topic with you. Alas, that is not the case. What a pity. |
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| It warms my heart that it's a relative minority who've chosen to believe their own crackpot theory. |
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Tylaen said: It warms my heart that it's a relative minority who've chosen to believe their own crackpot theory. The one that he is 34 years old? Yeah I agree. |
Hrybami said: Tylaen said: It warms my heart that it's a relative minority who've chosen to believe their own crackpot theory. The one that he is 34 years old? Yeah I agree.  It's true, he is 41 years old now |
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Yeah and I was 25 the day I was born. |
| Oh, cool! What was the world you lived in previously like? |
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Tylaen said: Oh, cool! What was the world you lived in previously like? I was a king lobster, so obviously I'm still a king lobster today and I'm in my 50s despite being in a 30 years old body. Trust me, it's written on all my idendity card. |
Hrybami said: Aaah, I get it! You're like a 100-year-old dragon loli but male. Makes sense! Thank you for clarifying.I was a king lobster, so obviously I'm still a king lobster today and I'm in my 50s despite being in a 30 years old body. Trust me, it's written on all my idendity card.  |
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Tylaen said: Hrybami said: Aaah, I get it! You're like a 100-year-old dragon loli but male. Makes sense! Thank you for clarifying.I was a king lobster, so obviously I'm still a king lobster today and I'm in my 50s despite being in a 30 years old body. Trust me, it's written on all my idendity card. That's exactly the logic of the people who voted that Rudy is 34 y/o. |
Hrybami said: I've a sneaking suspicion you don't understand this particular meme.Tylaen said: Aaah, I get it! You're like a 100-year-old dragon loli but male. Makes sense! Thank you for clarifying. That's exactly the logic of the people who voted that Rudy is 34 y/o. |
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Tylaen said: I've a sneaking suspicion you don't understand this particular meme. you're right, I've never seen this meme before. |
skysurf said: I think it's clear that MC has an adult mind in the body of a child based on actual elements from the story, as explained here. If you have a different view, it could be interesting to know your arguments. Unless you want to continue memeing with the other person and derailing the thread... Rudy is the character, and that character is 7 years old. He could have the mentality of a 3000 years old sage if he wants, that doesn't make him any older than want he biologically is. |
skysurf said: Hrybami said: Rudy is the character, and that character is 7 years old. He could have the mentality of a 3000 years old sage if he wants, that doesn't make him any older than want he biologically is. So after all the memes, all you wanted to say is that his biological body in the new world is 7 years old............ There was a more interesting discussion regarding his actual mental age and how it reflects on his actions, but I guess we can leave it at that if you don't feel comfortable exploring those aspects of the show. Dude what? I never posted meme. Rudy is 7 years old. Rudy has not the mental age of a common 7 years old kid. I never asserted to end the conversation, but you just ended another conversation I didn't start yet. |
| Then let me give you a quick-ups on what it is. It's when people like me, make fun of people like you, who defend the decision to create a character that looks underaged yet is actually way older so it's okay if they engage in sexual activity. The way I'm using it is to highlight that Rudeus is this exact meme, male and using his innately young looking body to get away with putting panties on his face and something that happened very recently! He'd never get away with it in previous body. It's a very slight subversion but it's still just as funny seeing that, even if the subject is male, people will still stake their life on defending it!  |
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Tylaen said: Then let me give you a quick-ups on what it is. It's when people like me, make fun of people like you, who defend the decision to create a character that looks underaged yet is actually way older so it's okay if they engage in sexual activity. The way I'm using it is to highlight that Rudeus is this exact meme, male and using his innately young looking body to get away with putting panties on his face, something he'd never get away with in his previous body. It's a very slight subversion but it's still just as funny seeing that, even if the subject is male, people will still stake their life on defending it! But Rudy (the character) is actually underage. Biologically, from his identity and from the eyes of every other characters. Rudy is a kid. If what he's doing is morally okay is another story and I'm not here to defend his action. The only thing I'm defending is that Rudy, the character, is not a 3x years old man. The age of someone is defined by their date of birth, not some mental age (which aren't always based on actual age by the way.) @Conceptualhero I think what I'm saying is pretty clear. I don't know why I'm being misunderstood in this thread. |
Hrybami said: The man treats himself as an adult, monologues within his heads like an adult, thinks like an adult and acts like an adult. I would never come into a show where a 1000-year-old wizard transplanted their consciousness into a baby and then claim "they're actually a baby" when they're clearly a 1000-year-old wizard.Tylaen said: Then let me give you a quick-ups on what it is. It's when people like me, make fun of people like you, who defend the decision to create a character that looks underaged yet is actually way older so it's okay if they engage in sexual activity. The way I'm using it is to highlight that Rudeus is this exact meme, male and using his innately young looking body to get away with putting panties on his face, something he'd never get away with in his previous body. It's a very slight subversion but it's still just as funny seeing that, even if the subject is male, people will still stake their life on defending it! But Rudy (the character) is actually underage. Biologically, from his identity and from the eyes of every other characters. Rudy is a kid. If what he's doing is morally okay is another story and I'm not here to defend his action. The only thing I'm defending is that Rudy, the character, is not a 3x years old man. The age of someone is defined by their date of birth, not some mental age (which aren't always based on actual age by the way.) That's ridiculous and just indicates I'm blind to the author's hand constructing such an exact scenario to excuse himself. |
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Tylaen said: Hrybami said: The man treats himself as an adult, monologues within his heads like an adult, thinks like an adult and acts like an adult. I would never come into a show where a 1000-year-old wizard transplanted their consciousness into a baby and then claim "they're actually a baby" when they're clearly a 1000-year-old wizard.But Rudy (the character) is actually underage. Biologically, from his identity and from the eyes of every other characters. Rudy is a kid. If what he's doing is morally okay is another story and I'm not here to defend his action. The only thing I'm defending is that Rudy, the character, is not a 3x years old man. The age of someone is defined by their date of birth, not some mental age (which aren't always based on actual age by the way.) That's ridiculous and just indicates I'm blind to the author's hand constructing such an exact scenario to excuse himself. Yes we could say Rudy has the mental age of an adult. But that alone doesn't make him an adult. Rudy might be exploiting this opportunity to do things a kid wouldn't normally be punished for to the same extent as an adult would. But I guess you expect him to get the same punishment an adult would get, so you're trying to bring the fact that he was an adult in his previous life and use some arguments like his mental age. Nevertheless none of these arguments could work because Rudy is still a kid and we cannot change this fact. |
Hrybami said: Tylaen said: Then let me give you a quick-ups on what it is. It's when people like me, make fun of people like you, who defend the decision to create a character that looks underaged yet is actually way older so it's okay if they engage in sexual activity. The way I'm using it is to highlight that Rudeus is this exact meme, male and using his innately young looking body to get away with putting panties on his face, something he'd never get away with in his previous body. It's a very slight subversion but it's still just as funny seeing that, even if the subject is male, people will still stake their life on defending it! But Rudy (the character) is actually underage. Biologically, from his identity and from the eyes of every other characters. Rudy is a kid. If what he's doing is morally okay is another story and I'm not here to defend his action. The only thing I'm defending is that Rudy, the character, is not a 3x years old man. The age of someone is defined by their date of birth, not some mental age (which aren't always based on actual age by the way.) @Conceptualhero I think what I'm saying is pretty clear. I don't know why I'm being misunderstood in this thread. I just want to make things clear. If you were to confirm my post, then I can address your points coherently. |
| I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
Hrybami said: Throwing out the word "fact" to make yourself look correct isn't a very convincing, Bamiboy. Tylaen said: The man treats himself as an adult, monologues within his heads like an adult, thinks like an adult and acts like an adult. I would never come into a show where a 1000-year-old wizard transplanted their consciousness into a baby and then claim "they're actually a baby" when they're clearly a 1000-year-old wizard. That's ridiculous and just indicates I'm blind to the author's hand constructing such an exact scenario to excuse himself. Yes we could say Rudy has the mental age of an adult. But that alone doesn't make him an adult. Rudy might be exploiting this opportunity to do things a kid wouldn't normally be punished for to the same extent as an adult would. But I guess you expect him to get the same punishment an adult would get, so you're trying to bring the fact that he was an adult in his previous life and use some arguments like his mental age. Nevertheless none of these arguments could work because Rudy is still a kid and we cannot change this fact. Conceptualhero said: Being a manchild still makes you a man. Him being reclusive is a non-factor.I just want to make things clear. If you were to confirm my post, then I can address your points coherently. |
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Tylaen said: Hrybami said: Throwing out the word "fact" to make yourself look correct isn't a very convincing, Bamiboy. Yes we could say Rudy has the mental age of an adult. But that alone doesn't make him an adult. Rudy might be exploiting this opportunity to do things a kid wouldn't normally be punished for to the same extent as an adult would. But I guess you expect him to get the same punishment an adult would get, so you're trying to bring the fact that he was an adult in his previous life and use some arguments like his mental age. Nevertheless none of these arguments could work because Rudy is still a kid and we cannot change this fact. Then please ignore the word "fact" if you don't like it and try to understand what I'm saying at least. |
Hrybami said: I've understood perfectly since I first saw the argument pop up in this sub-section of discussion because it's not new, it's just a morphed version of the same thing again. I'll see this argument today, yesterday, tomorrow, a year in the future, and several years in the past. Tylaen said: Throwing out the word "fact" to make yourself look correct isn't a very convincing, Bamiboy. Then please ignore the word "fact" if you don't like it and try to understand what I'm saying at least. It remains a narrative trick. |
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Tylaen said: Hrybami said: I've understood perfectly since I first saw the argument pop up in this sub-section of discussion because it's not new, it's just a morphed version of the same thing again. I'll see this argument today, yesterday, tomorrow, a year in the future, and several years in the past. Then please ignore the word "fact" if you don't like it and try to understand what I'm saying at least. It remains a narrative trick. Narrative trick, maybe. I like how authors can imagine things outside the box and give other perspectives on our own moral code and standard. This is thought provoking and it isn't made for the sole purpose of fantasizing even if I might agree the wish-fullfilment theme is strong in this anime. |
Tylaen said: Hrybami said: Throwing out the word "fact" to make yourself look correct isn't a very convincing, Bamiboy. Yes we could say Rudy has the mental age of an adult. But that alone doesn't make him an adult. Rudy might be exploiting this opportunity to do things a kid wouldn't normally be punished for to the same extent as an adult would. But I guess you expect him to get the same punishment an adult would get, so you're trying to bring the fact that he was an adult in his previous life and use some arguments like his mental age. Nevertheless none of these arguments could work because Rudy is still a kid and we cannot change this fact. Conceptualhero said: Being a manchild still makes you a man. Him being reclusive is a non-factor.I just want to make things clear. If you were to confirm my post, then I can address your points coherently. I don't disagree. How Rudeus approach the new world and how successful he becomes is due entirely on utilizing his past life's wisdom. I would make the argument that because he is a child, he would be hinder by the biological urges of his child body. However, that doesn't excuse his perverted actions because even if you are entirely a child, groping and stealing someone's undergarment is flat out wrong. |
| I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb. |
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