Is there really a solution for the story of Attack on Titan?

Ameen_Aftab said:
Well, there was that stupid plan of Zeke, Euthanasia. But instead of changing the biology of Eldians such that they can't reproduce, why not ask Ymir to change the biology such that they can never become titan again!

Lovlis said:

wouldn't that just make them super defenseless then? Like if Eldians in marley no longer held strategic value then who knows what would happen to them. And the world has been raised to believe Eldians are devils and willingly uses them as a means for world peace, so they would still declare war on Paradis.

Lovlis said:

wouldn't that just make them super defenseless then? Like if Eldians in marley no longer held strategic value then who knows what would happen to them. And the world has been raised to believe Eldians are devils and willingly uses them as a means for world peace, so they would still declare war on Paradis.

Ameen_Aftab said:
Well, there was that stupid plan of Zeke, Euthanasia. But instead of changing the biology of Eldians such that they can't reproduce, why not ask Ymir to change the biology such that they can never become titan again!

ramy22 said:



You can change their body to fight disease, or make them unable to conceive or change memory. But their transformation into giants is related to their being Eldians so you can't do that

Lovlis said:


Um there’s a lot of differences between Germans/Japanese and a race of people that once used their titan powers to rule over other countries for 2000 yrs via cannibalistic monsters.
It might not be impossible, but it also wouldn’t take the world that much effort to just bomb Paradis and using them as the scrapegoat for world peace. At this point it woukdnt matter what they did or if they were biologically normal, the world has United against them. Paradis doesn’t have any alliances or anything

deg said:


this idea that all people are united or like a hive mind against Paradis Island is unrealistic though right? do not look much for differences because there will be a lot but look at human psychology even in real life so called globalization is not yet happening in its full potential because humanity is not a hive mind and is that hive mind maintained in later generations too?

also in the manga if they successfully kill Eren the rest of the world will somehow think not all Edlians are devils

ramy22 said:



You can change their body to fight disease, or make them unable to conceive or change memory. But their transformation into giants is related to their being Eldians so you can't do that

SoranoCloud said:
I personally think there's no really good solution, but surely killing all Eldians or killing all non-Eldians or sterilizing all Eldians is not a solution either. Even while Eldians on Paradis lived totally unaware of the world beyond the walls, they still managed to hate and kill each other.

I think the only solution would be to just for all sides to stop. They just have to admit that whatever losses they have suffered they are irreversible, and the different nations must just stop trying to find who is guilty, stop avenging their dead, however unfair, unstable and unsatisfying solution it may seem. Marley, Eldia and other nation have to stop Eren (though _how_ to stop him is a problem indeed) and then negociate peace (Think of how the European Union was formed as a consequence of WWII).

In AOT situation is already catastrophic, but it won't get better if Eren goes on with his plan.

The chances that surviving people (if any) will really see that stopping this entirely is the only thing left to do? It's like 0,01 %. In real world, though everyone goes on about the evils of war and the preciousness of human life, there are still plenty of wars going on.

BUT at the same time there are rather big territories that are free from warfare like USA or EU. There are still internal problems and violence, but at least there's not WWII-like massive bloodshed or genocide. So yeah, even if Eren himself has explicitly rejected the peace talks (and thumbs up for Isayama for making it clear), in my opinion this is the only way that works, not flawlessly but all other solutions are worse.

That it is for a real-world-like end, it's not perfect but the only I can think of of. I don't think though Isayama will give us a solution along the lines of negotiations and peace treaty between Eldia and neighbouring nations because the war is still raging and the losses are too fresh, even if the alliance stops Eren somehow.

Now for the AOT in-universe ending, I think it might be possible for Eren to wipe out everyone except for people from Paradis, then alter their memories to make them forget of the bloodshed and the suffering they caused, thus making sure they live a "happy" life. But I have doubts that he will do this way, as he's been going on lately on how he values freedom above anything, so I'm not sure he'll want to brainwash his friends to make them happy.

At the same time, it's difficult for me to see what Eren intends to do if his plan succeeds. Leave his friends go on living with their enormous guilt because they have not been able to prevent this genocide? I don't think he's _that_ cruel. (I know that sounds ironic, but I don't think he wants to hurt his friends more than strictly necessary).

So I don't think Isayama will give us a precise "applicable to the real world" solution, mainly because humanity hasn't yet figured out how to keep stable peace everywhere. I personally also hope that he doesn't give us something completely based on the "magic" of the AOT world (Paths and so on). I place my bets on a bittersweet ending that will make use of some of the AOT world's lore but will still have some parallels to the real-world situations.

Any kind of a sufficiently happy ending is anyway not possible now with the massacre that Eren has started.

ShaDanDan said:


I agree with you in general, but I still don't see a solution for this specific problem:

If they all negotiate and agree to make peace, that's acceptable as a reasonable solution that MAKES SENSE, but who will guarantee that no other Eldian King possessing the Superior Founding Titan Power will decide to once again massacre the world or control it!?

I mean the problem is the existence of Eldians themselves with the power of the titans. If I missed something in your reply, please tell me!

I can only think there will be some [FANTASY] solution... something we didn't take into consideration. But if Isayama manages to surprise us with a satisfying solution that makes sense based on information we already know from the story.. that will make Isayama the goat, even more than he is now!

SoranoCloud said:


I think it's not the existence of Eldians that is a problem but their use of their powers. There will be no guarantee that all Eldian Kings with the founding titans are pacifists. Most probably not. As there is no guarantee that there's no new Hitler born somewhere in the world right now who is going start a third world war. But still we cannot eliminate a whole race with a whole lot of innocent people on the mere supposition that something bad may happen. There's no guarantee and there cannot be.

At the same time, I think that it's also worthy of note that human civilization of the other nations in the AOT world is already sufficiently advanced in technology so it can fight on par with the titan shifters of Marley. Probably some decades of peace, and there will be a technical solution that will make the threat of Rumbling much less serious.

These nations without Titans already have technology that allows them to have full-scale wars. No one can guarantee that eliminating Eldians will stop other wars between nations (though Tybur family seemed to thing so). So in my view Eldians having Founder titan is no less dangerous or safe as other nations having their own weapons. There's no reason why it is Eldians that should be eliminated entirely instead of any other nation that is able to attack others. No nation is inherently bad in itself.