i've heard some negative talking about the manga ending
beside people's(me included) hype for the show kinda died after s4 ending
is the manga eding really that bad ?
is the anime gonna get un original ending ?
what are you opinions?
is this last season?
Yes. Its bad even its defeat Bleach ending kinda bad.
Yes. perhaps anime with go to that direction or perhaps it may not
My opinion ? If i could erase my memories from this it will be wonderful
imo yep bad and f u want to know what happened in the manga u can check the spoiler , f u r not interested in the spoiler then just hope they make changes not just in the ending but also the BLUE , because the final arc was bad it reached to the point were the manga got axed.
in order (events):
1. villain out of nowhere that is too op and annoying and able to defeat jouichiro 5-0 ( jouichiro MUST be the final boss (obstacle) that souma have to face but what we got was the new OP annoying villian).
2. the villain makes soma look like a trash in a trashcan in the first challenge.
3. the villain made proper advances towards Erina and wants to MARRY HER her and actually put his hands on her before.Soma hasn't even come close to doing the same (the villain keep flirting with erina and has more moments with erina (he carried her while she was unconscious, spending time with her in the office having some tea bring her roses bouquet).
Beach arc:
4. the villain kidnapped erina and released her later and she didn't took any action like sue him or put him under arrest for what he did !?.
Final arc BLUE:
5. evil dark chefs mafia and clowns and cooking with some kind of a weapon (making whipped cream with CHAINSAW and baking with Dynamite and more).
6. yuki morosaki went on maternity leave around this arc (Morisaki is the brains of all the recipes used in the series.The series officially lists her as a "collaborator").
7. the villian also defeated both 3-0 eishi and megumi without analyze or describe the dishes just straight up results.
8. the villain has one of superpower BS (the ability to gain the chef's skill when he takes their main chef tool,an example is if he takes saibas knife he gains all his years of experience as a chef and adds it to his skill).
9. did erina do something useful in the BLUE ? no , nothing.
10. removed 70% of cooking from the manga (entire cooking sequences skipped meaning showing only results).
11. the usage of the characters are not that emphasize so much compared to previous arcs.the story just revolves on the protag and the antag.
12. rushed (because too many people dropped it in the BLUE and the sales of the manga wasn't going very well (sales: vol.31 (280740) - vol.35 (178355)),it got axed).
13. Erina's mother finally who's the judge in BLUE. She's even colder than Azami towards Erina and she doesn't accept her food (dealing with nakiris issues and their drama again) .
14. there was no interaction between soma and erina during the BLUE except one (before facing asahi) , the only person who got more interaction with erina was asahi
15. erina's character regressed why? just because the villain changed her mood ! what is the point of building character development ? (took takumi's dish and threw it in the TRASHCAN, didn't TRUST souma and want souma to LOSE against the villain in the blue tournament , finally when souma won against the annoying villain asahi , erina wasn't happy or satisfied when souma won, she was in shock, she didn't even talk to him after he won.).
moved from shonen Jump (weekly) to GIGA (monthly) just to give the author more time to think and to finish the manga and come up with a good closure and they give him only 3 final chapters of le dessert (final vol 36):
16. ( CH 315, 315,1 ) i consider it the WORST PART: ( Ch 315 ) souma wants to comfort her by giving her his dish , erina ate it and woke up from her nightmare and destroyed half of the kitchen instead ripping cloth or getting nude ( foodgasm ) and says disgusting !? instead of delicious, now she is back to her senses and ready to challenge souma , ( Ch 315.1 ) she WON the blue tournament just like that by showing only results !!!? so who is the protagonist again of this series souma or erina ??? soma traveled when he lost to erina in the blue tournament because of his mood.
17. (CH 315.2) the author be like: i can fix that (which was unnecessary), all of sudden it turns out that the annoying villain which is out of nowhere is actually HALF BROTHER ,the one who WANTS TO MARRY ERINA HIS SISTER !!? they just discovered long lost brother and he didnt even knew that ( Erina’s dad had a one night stand with Asahi’s mom before he had Erina, Once Asahi’s mom was pregnant, he dipped and the mom was really abusive and she eventually died and Asahi was transferred to an orphanage, Joichiro was sent to the US for charity work and cooked for the orphanage and Asahi took a liking towards his cooking and Joichiro took him under his wing, so Asahi was a long lost son but eventually was taken in by the Nakiri family through some DNA tests and is Erina’s half siblings ) . just to undone the NTR , end of my shokugeki no souma NTR rant. let's forgive asahi's actions because his backstory was tragic and forget everything like nothing happened and move on like any other shonen we must forgive and sympathize with the villian in the end
18. (CH 315.3) WORST PLOT TWIST that nobody likes it or cares about it: the annoying villain incest asahi half brother became a part of the family with more screen time and better ending than souma in 2 last chapters .
19. (CH 315.3) souma finally appeared in the final chapter (he didnt appeared in the previous chapters), and yet AGAIN the author keep showing us HINTS AGAIN and the author decided to make some progress souma x erina in the epilogue!? which u didn't have time to make progress when u r at the final stage epilogue instead of ending up together they skipped 8 YEARS not 3 or 4 but 8 YEARS and showing us in ambiguous way that they begin to realize their feeling using inner monologue instead of verbally speaking.
20. not even showing souma's new skills after what he learned from traveling or the dish that he's about to serve in the end instead we got disgusting food like really !? not even a scene were erina says delicious to souma simple objective of the series or even a shokugeki with erina or his dad !? in the end we got nothing.
21. open ended cliffhanger without a proper closure, both in terms of cooking and romantic relationship. (The End) .
(ch 315.2) we only got little backstory about souma's mother. the only interesting thing in (le dessert) was the backstory of souma's mother .
(Shokugeki No souma TO Shokugeki No Nakiri)
with all nakiri family members including asahi sit down together and enjoy their meal, Happily ever after.
(blue arc and le dessert): was all about erinas mother,father,half brother and grandfather
even the cover of the manga speak it self vol 34,35
missing objectives:
1. souma: i will make you say delicious ? we knew erina like his dishes and looking forward to it and she did say delicious BUT indirectly to joichiro and hisako and the huge problem was she's still tsundere even souma told her and she NEVER said delicious to souma directly (a scene) (simple objective)
2. souma: i will run the restaurant after the graduation ? keep travelling instead of running his restaurant
3. taste of love (Manga ch 52.5) ? erina still didn't taste it because souma keep travelling for 8 years and she misses him but they will in the future ( off screen ) because after 8 years souma just realized his feeling
4. souma: i will surpass my father ? author: but through asahi of course !?
about the BLUE arc were too many people dropped the manga when asahi appeared:
when asahi beats jouichiro 5-0 people dropped it
when asahi keep flirting with erina and carried her people dropped it
when they saw mafia and clowns cooking with weapons people dropped it
when they saw Chainsaw and baking with Dynamite people dropped it
when they saw asahi with superpower people dropped it
and finally when they saw souma lost to erina people dropped it
in the interview:
1. he added the villain to make progress between (souma x erina)? what progress ?? more like character regression
2. he said “Soma has all these cute girls around him, and all he cares about is cooking—why can’t he act more like Asahi?” is Tsukuda seriously trying to justify the criminal Asahi's existence as something that Soma should be??
the sales of the manga wasn't going very well. so it got axed
take a close look at the chart ((VOL 31 - 35 : season 5: final season (the new guy who appeared in the end of the episode)) tell me does it look fine ?
All in all is because of THAT character that got introduced near the end of the series as supposedly the final villain. He's bad by every means possible. His 'development' is assai predictable and at times pure bullshit.
Yes, this is the last season. Though, I don't remember how many chapters is adapting.
ithyphallic60 said: imo yep bad and f u want to know what happened in the manga u can check the spoiler , f u r not interested in the spoiler then just hope they make changes not just in the ending but also the BLUE , because the final arc was bad it reached to the point were the manga got axed.
in order (events):
1. villain out of nowhere that is too op and annoying and able to defeat jouichiro 5-0 ( jouichiro MUST be the final boss (obstacle) that souma have to face but what we got was the new OP annoying villian).
2. the villain makes soma look like a trash in a trashcan in the first challenge.
3. the villain made proper advances towards Erina and wants to MARRY HER her and actually put his hands on her before.Soma hasn't even come close to doing the same (the villain keep flirting with erina and has more moments with erina (he carried her while she was unconscious, spending time with her in the office having some tea bring her roses bouquet).
Beach arc:
4. the villain kidnapped erina and released her later and she didn't took any action like sue him or put him under arrest for what he did !?.
Final arc BLUE:
5. evil dark chefs mafia and clowns and cooking with some kind of a weapon (making whipped cream with CHAINSAW and baking with Dynamite and more).
6. yuki morosaki went on maternity leave around this arc (Morisaki is the brains of all the recipes used in the series.The series officially lists her as a "collaborator").
7. the villian also defeated both 3-0 eishi and megumi without analyze or describe the dishes just straight up results.
8. the villain has one of superpower BS (the ability to gain the chef's skill when he takes their main chef tool,an example is if he takes saibas knife he gains all his years of experience as a chef and adds it to his skill).
9. did erina do something useful in the BLUE ? no , nothing.
10. removed 70% of cooking from the manga (entire cooking sequences skipped meaning showing only results).
11. the usage of the characters are not that emphasize so much compared to previous arcs.the story just revolves on the protag and the antag.
12. rushed (because too many people dropped it in the BLUE and the sales of the manga wasn't going very well (sales: vol.31 (280740) - vol.35 (178355)),it got axed).
13. Erina's mother finally who's the judge in BLUE. She's even colder than Azami towards Erina and she doesn't accept her food (dealing with nakiris issues and their drama again) .
14. there was no interaction between soma and erina during the BLUE except one (before facing asahi) , the only person who got more interaction with erina was asahi
15. erina's character regressed why? just because the villain changed her mood ! what is the point of building character development ? (took takumi's dish and threw it in the TRASHCAN, didn't TRUST souma and want souma to LOSE against the villain in the blue tournament , finally when souma won against the annoying villain asahi , erina wasn't happy or satisfied when souma won, she was in shock, she didn't even talk to him after he won.).
moved from shonen Jump (weekly) to GIGA (monthly) just to give the author more time to think and to finish the manga and come up with a good closure and they give him only 3 final chapters of le dessert (final vol 36):
16. ( CH 315, 315,1 ) i consider it the WORST PART: ( Ch 315 ) souma wants to comfort her by giving her his dish , erina ate it and woke up from her nightmare and destroyed half of the kitchen instead ripping cloth or getting nude ( foodgasm ) and says disgusting !? instead of delicious, now she is back to her senses and ready to challenge souma , ( Ch 315.1 ) she WON the blue tournament just like that by showing only results !!!? so who is the protagonist again of this series souma or erina ??? soma traveled when he lost to erina in the blue tournament because of his mood.
17. (CH 315.2) the author be like: i can fix that (which was unnecessary), all of sudden it turns out that the annoying villain which is out of nowhere is actually HALF BROTHER ,the one who WANTS TO MARRY ERINA HIS SISTER !!? they just discovered long lost brother and he didnt even knew that ( Erina’s dad had a one night stand with Asahi’s mom before he had Erina, Once Asahi’s mom was pregnant, he dipped and the mom was really abusive and she eventually died and Asahi was transferred to an orphanage, Joichiro was sent to the US for charity work and cooked for the orphanage and Asahi took a liking towards his cooking and Joichiro took him under his wing, so Asahi was a long lost son but eventually was taken in by the Nakiri family through some DNA tests and is Erina’s half siblings ) . just to undone the NTR , end of my shokugeki no souma NTR rant. let's forgive asahi's actions because his backstory was tragic and forget everything like nothing happened and move on like any other shonen we must forgive and sympathize with the villian in the end
18. (CH 315.3) WORST PLOT TWIST that nobody likes it or cares about it: the annoying villain incest asahi half brother became a part of the family with more screen time and better ending than souma in 2 last chapters .
19. (CH 315.3) souma finally appeared in the final chapter (he didnt appeared in the previous chapters), and yet AGAIN the author keep showing us HINTS AGAIN and the author decided to make some progress souma x erina in the epilogue!? which u didn't have time to make progress when u r at the final stage epilogue instead of ending up together they skipped 8 YEARS not 3 or 4 but 8 YEARS and showing us in ambiguous way that they begin to realize their feeling using inner monologue instead of verbally speaking.
20. not even showing souma's new skills after what he learned from traveling or the dish that he's about to serve in the end instead we got disgusting food like really !? not even a scene were erina says delicious to souma simple objective of the series or even a shokugeki with erina or his dad !? in the end we got nothing.
21. open ended cliffhanger without a proper closure, both in terms of cooking and romantic relationship. (The End) .
(ch 315.2) we only got little backstory about souma's mother. the only interesting thing in (le dessert) was the backstory of souma's mother .
(Shokugeki No souma TO Shokugeki No Nakiri)
with all nakiri family members including asahi sit down together and enjoy their meal, Happily ever after.
(blue arc and le dessert): was all about erinas mother,father,half brother and grandfather
even the cover of the manga speak it self vol 34,35
missing objectives:
1. souma: i will make you say delicious ? we knew erina like his dishes and looking forward to it and she did say delicious BUT indirectly to joichiro and hisako and the huge problem was she's still tsundere even souma told her and she NEVER said delicious to souma directly (a scene) (simple objective)
2. souma: i will run the restaurant after the graduation ? keep travelling instead of running his restaurant
3. taste of love (Manga ch 52.5) ? erina still didn't taste it because souma keep travelling for 8 years and she misses him but they will in the future ( off screen ) because after 8 years souma just realized his feeling
4. souma: i will surpass my father ? author: but through asahi of course !?
about the BLUE arc were too many people dropped the manga when asahi appeared:
when asahi beats jouichiro 5-0 people dropped it
when asahi keep flirting with erina and carried her people dropped it
when they saw mafia and clowns cooking with weapons people dropped it
when they saw Chainsaw and baking with Dynamite people dropped it
when they saw asahi with superpower people dropped it
and finally when they saw souma lost to erina people dropped it
in the interview:
1. he added the villain to make progress between (souma x erina)? what progress ?? more like character regression
2. he said “Soma has all these cute girls around him, and all he cares about is cooking—why can’t he act more like Asahi?” is Tsukuda seriously trying to justify the criminal Asahi's existence as something that Soma should be??
the sales of the manga wasn't going very well. so it got axed
take a close look at the chart ((VOL 31 - 35 : season 5: final season (the new guy who appeared in the end of the episode)) tell me does it look fine ?
Sounds terrible. Just going to drop it then. Everything since Central was introduced has been a let down.
kayuza77 said: Yes. Its bad even its defeat Bleach ending kinda bad.
Yes. perhaps anime with go to that direction or perhaps it may not
My opinion ? If i could erase my memories from this it will be wonderful
i wish i can do the same my friend , erase our memories
kayuza77 said: Yes. Its bad even its defeat Bleach ending kinda bad.
Yes. perhaps anime with go to that direction or perhaps it may not
My opinion ? If i could erase my memories from this it will be wonderful
[quote=ithyphallic60 message=60274857]imo yep bad and f u want to know what happened in the manga u can check the spoiler , f u r not interested in the spoiler then just hope they make changes not just in the ending but also the BLUE , because the final arc was bad it reached to the point were the manga got axed.
in order (events):
1. villain out of nowhere that is too op and annoying and able to defeat jouichiro 5-0 ( jouichiro MUST be the final boss (obstacle) that souma have to face but what we got was the new OP annoying villian).
2. the villain makes soma look like a trash in a trashcan in the first challenge.
3. the villain made proper advances towards Erina and wants to MARRY HER her and actually put his hands on her before.Soma hasn't even come close to doing the same (the villain keep flirting with erina and has more moments with erina (he carried her while she was unconscious, spending time with her in the office having some tea bring her roses bouquet).
Beach arc:
4. the villain kidnapped erina and released her later and she didn't took any action like sue him or put him under arrest for what he did !?.
Final arc BLUE:
5. evil dark chefs mafia and clowns and cooking with some kind of a weapon (making whipped cream with CHAINSAW and baking with Dynamite and more).
6. yuki morosaki went on maternity leave around this arc (Morisaki is the brains of all the recipes used in the series.The series officially lists her as a "collaborator").
7. the villian also defeated both 3-0 eishi and megumi without analyze or describe the dishes just straight up results.
8. the villain has one of superpower BS (the ability to gain the chef's skill when he takes their main chef tool,an example is if he takes saibas knife he gains all his years of experience as a chef and adds it to his skill).
9. did erina do something useful in the BLUE ? no , nothing.
10. removed 70% of cooking from the manga (entire cooking sequences skipped meaning showing only results).
11. the usage of the characters are not that emphasize so much compared to previous arcs.the story just revolves on the protag and the antag.
12. rushed (because too many people dropped it in the BLUE and the sales of the manga wasn't going very well (sales: vol.31 (280740) - vol.35 (178355)),it got axed).
13. Erina's mother finally who's the judge in BLUE. She's even colder than Azami towards Erina and she doesn't accept her food (dealing with nakiris issues and their drama again) .
14. there was no interaction between soma and erina during the BLUE except one (before facing asahi) , the only person who got more interaction with erina was asahi
15. erina's character regressed why? just because the villain changed her mood ! what is the point of building character development ? (took takumi's dish and threw it in the TRASHCAN, didn't TRUST souma and want souma to LOSE against the villain in the blue tournament , finally when souma won against the annoying villain asahi , erina wasn't happy or satisfied when souma won, she was in shock, she didn't even talk to him after he won.).
moved from shonen Jump (weekly) to GIGA (monthly) just to give the author more time to think and to finish the manga and come up with a good closure and they give him only 3 final chapters of le dessert (final vol 36):
16. ( CH 315, 315,1 ) i consider it the WORST PART: ( Ch 315 ) souma wants to comfort her by giving her his dish , erina ate it and woke up from her nightmare and destroyed half of the kitchen instead ripping cloth or getting nude ( foodgasm ) and says disgusting !? instead of delicious, now she is back to her senses and ready to challenge souma , ( Ch 315.1 ) she WON the blue tournament just like that by showing only results !!!? so who is the protagonist again of this series souma or erina ??? soma traveled when he lost to erina in the blue tournament because of his mood.
17. (CH 315.2) the author be like: i can fix that (which was unnecessary), all of sudden it turns out that the annoying villain which is out of nowhere is actually HALF BROTHER ,the one who WANTS TO MARRY ERINA HIS SISTER !!? they just discovered long lost brother and he didnt even knew that ( Erina’s dad had a one night stand with Asahi’s mom before he had Erina, Once Asahi’s mom was pregnant, he dipped and the mom was really abusive and she eventually died and Asahi was transferred to an orphanage, Joichiro was sent to the US for charity work and cooked for the orphanage and Asahi took a liking towards his cooking and Joichiro took him under his wing, so Asahi was a long lost son but eventually was taken in by the Nakiri family through some DNA tests and is Erina’s half siblings ) . just to undone the NTR , end of my shokugeki no souma NTR rant. let's forgive asahi's actions because his backstory was tragic and forget everything like nothing happened and move on like any other shonen we must forgive and sympathize with the villian in the end
18. (CH 315.3) WORST PLOT TWIST that nobody likes it or cares about it: the annoying villain incest asahi half brother became a part of the family with more screen time and better ending than souma in 2 last chapters .
19. (CH 315.3) souma finally appeared in the final chapter (he didnt appeared in the previous chapters), and yet AGAIN the author keep showing us HINTS AGAIN and the author decided to make some progress souma x erina in the epilogue!? which u didn't have time to make progress when u r at the final stage epilogue instead of ending up together they skipped 8 YEARS not 3 or 4 but 8 YEARS and showing us in ambiguous way that they begin to realize their feeling using inner monologue instead of verbally speaking.
20. not even showing souma's new skills after what he learned from traveling or the dish that he's about to serve in the end instead we got disgusting food like really !? not even a scene were erina says delicious to souma simple objective of the series or even a shokugeki with erina or his dad !? in the end we got nothing.
21. open ended cliffhanger without a proper closure, both in terms of cooking and romantic relationship. (The End) .
(ch 315.2) we only got little backstory about souma's mother. the only interesting thing in (le dessert) was the backstory of souma's mother .
(Shokugeki No souma TO Shokugeki No Nakiri)
with all nakiri family members including asahi sit down together and enjoy their meal, Happily ever after.
(blue arc and le dessert): was all about erinas mother,father,half brother and grandfather
even the cover of the manga speak it self vol 34,35
missing objectives:
1. souma: i will make you say delicious ? we knew erina like his dishes and looking forward to it and she did say delicious BUT indirectly to joichiro and hisako and the huge problem was she's still tsundere even souma told her and she NEVER said delicious to souma directly (a scene) (simple objective)
2. souma: i will run the restaurant after the graduation ? keep travelling instead of running his restaurant
3. taste of love (Manga ch 52.5) ? erina still didn't taste it because souma keep travelling for 8 years and she misses him but they will in the future ( off screen ) because after 8 years souma just realized his feeling
4. souma: i will surpass my father ? author: but through asahi of course !?
about the BLUE arc were too many people dropped the manga when asahi appeared:
when asahi beats jouichiro 5-0 people dropped it
when asahi keep flirting with erina and carried her people dropped it
when they saw mafia and clowns cooking with weapons people dropped it
when they saw Chainsaw and baking with Dynamite people dropped it
when they saw asahi with superpower people dropped it
and finally when they saw souma lost to erina people dropped it
in the interview:
1. he added the villain to make progress between (souma x erina)? what progress ?? more like character regression
2. he said “Soma has all these cute girls around him, and all he cares about is cooking—why can’t he act more like Asahi?” is Tsukuda seriously trying to justify the criminal Asahi's existence as something that Soma should be??
the sales of the manga wasn't going very well. so it got axed
take a close look at the chart ((VOL 31 - 35 : season 5: final season (the new guy who appeared in the end of the episode)) tell me does it look fine ?
wape said: All in all is because of THAT character that got introduced near the end of the series as supposedly the final villain. He's bad by every means possible. His 'development' is assai predictable and at times pure bullshit.
Yes, this is the last season. Though, I don't remember how many chapters is adapting.
TBH the quality was going down slowly but i never expected such a horrible drop :/
wape said: All in all is because of THAT character that got introduced near the end of the series as supposedly the final villain. He's bad by every means possible. His 'development' is assai predictable and at times pure bullshit.Yes, this is the last season. Though, I don't remember how many chapters is adapting.
TBH the quality was going down slowly but i never expected such a horrible drop :/
Yup! I don't even think it was mid story when it started going downhill.
I heard the sales of the Food Wars manga started going downhill and so the author rushed into making the final arc, and as all the manga readers know, it really sucks.
At this point I'm just crossing my fingers and praying that there'll be an anime exclusive ending, something, ANYTHING to salvage the shit-show that is the BLUE arc.
pandaeatboo said: I heard the sales of the Food Wars manga started going downhill and so the author rushed into making the final arc, and as all the manga readers know, it really sucks.
At this point I'm just crossing my fingers and praying that there'll be an anime exclusive ending, something, ANYTHING to salvage the shit-show that is the BLUE arc.
here u go check it by yourself
and yeah just hope they make changes in the blue and the ending
People are saying the model chef lady who was behind all the cooking detail left on maternity leave. And that's why the quality dropped off a cliff and it turned into a battle shounen.
