Sword Art Online (light novel)
| I just have to ask if any other light novel readers are disappointed by the Alicization adaptation. Aside from the first 4 episodes, Alicization has been consistently failing to meet my expectations... Almost every fight in the first season ended up with a sword lock and a shoving match while monologue flowed out their mouths... At that point the art wasn't totally disappointing yet, however, War of Underworld hit, and I had hope again, seeing as how instead of one long continuous airing, they decided to take some time off (to hopefully work on WOU). Then, decent fight scenes with disappointing art and animation... Now, I'm not going to say Alicization is a total failure, as Kirito vs Goblin and Bercouli vs Vecta were fairly decent fight scenes, however, there's just too much to 'talk' (be disappointed) about... Character Scenes Cut Fairly emotional or important deaths such as Eugeo, Eldrie, Bercouli are all watered down. Other than fights, these characters got almost no screentime in the first half. Eugeo's duel with the guard apprentice was cut, the entire tournament in their journey was cut. The small time we had with Eugeo that wasn't a battle was for Ronie and Tiese char introductions. I have absolutely no idea why they chose to cut down on Eugeo's apperances rather than Kirito's in Cour 1-2, since Eugeo is supposed to make a fairly emotional exit from the series, whereas Kirito is going to end up basically braindead in a wheelchair. Same with Eldrie and Bercouli. Especially Bercouli, as his death would have been a lot more emotional, if we just got a single minute or so in Cour 2 with an Alice & Bercouli moment, to emphasize how important he was to her, when Alice realizes that he's dead. Same with Fanatio, we barely saw any Bercouli and Fanatio moments to make the scene emotional. Overall, a lot of the exchanges between characters was what made a large chunk of the content in S1 and S2. We never got that in Alicization and that's not cause they didn't exist, they just didn't make it in and it was just battle after battle, with characters we barely know anything about, unless we've read the novels. Disappointing Art & Animation Now the part that disappointed me throughout almost every episode after ep 4. Why was the art and animation so poor? Other than the few flashy special fx in WOU, it really felt like a seasonal 1 cour harem battle ln adaptation. (Ironic isn't it). Instead of just bombarding you with words, lets just do a quick compare and contrast:  Alicization-Ep-4 Dynamic Camera Shots. Fluid Animation. Background in sync with characters and movements. Parrying, Exchanges, wide variety of action to convey a real fight is going down.  WOU-P2-Ep-2 Why was Asuna's face drawn with a crayon during this fight? Apparently, Goblin Chief fluctlights rank higher in battle power compared to American VR players.  Unknown-WOU-Ep Memory purged from my cache. What in tarnation was that... LN vs Anime The only reason I'm back on MAL to bitch about one of my favorite series are cause of 2 things in WOU P2. That being Stacia Asuna is a total disappointment and that Leafa scene, except the problem isn't leafa.  How does this become...  ...this? I have genuinely no idea where to start. Just the way this scene looks turns a dark and desperate scene into a meme. The Red Flags Alicization being 4 cours, was a red flag from the start. An arc that's longer than everything adapted so far and everything they cut out, was being adapted into basically the same length as s1+s2. The timeframe. I have no idea when they started working on Ordinal Scale, however, S2 was 2 years after S1. Ordinal Scale was 3 years after S2. Plenty of time to produce a quality anime of moderate length - Movie / 2 cours (25 eps). Alicization had an incredibly ambitious, 1 year after Ordinal Scale airing date. Not only that, it's length is nearly 7x OS, and the first episode sets a movie level art and animation standard. Not only that, Alicization is fight, after fight, after fight. They fight nearly a dozen Integrity knights, episode after episode, with these fights not being short battles, but a majority of the content. SAO vs Alicization (The Inconsistencies) Everything above, basically boils down to this one thing. The inconsistency in the art and animation. Some scenes look great. Others look like homework that was rushed through 10 minutes before it's due. However, the biggest problem with Alicization is because of SAO and A-1's greatest works. Ordinal Scale and Alicization Ep1-4. A-1 set the bar way, WAY too high. Ordinal Scale in terms of art and animation was flawless, incredibly dynamic fight scenes, great choreography, great angles for the shots, nothing was ever choppy or felt off. Same with Alicization up until Ep 4. The Goblin Fight was great, the GGO 'fight' in ep 1 was also great. Everything had clean lines, great colors and shading, and smooth movements. Everything after, as you can see above, was more or less disastrous. New Expectations / Conclusion Now fortunately, the latest ep was a saving grace. I was not blown away by the Bercouli fight, but I did think it was pretty good, not just in SAO, but as a fight scene in anime overall. Basically, it's indicating, perhaps there's some great fight scenes to look forward to in this season. Unfortunately, the 'war' scene was pretty poor. Basically any hopes and expectations I had for the Korea / China side of the war have been dashed. Apart from the several climax 1v1 battles, I really was hoping for something well animated and coordinated for the invasion by Korean / Chinese players, as this (imo) is what makes War of Underworld, actually a war. However, the opening and Bercouli fight does prove that the climax may prove to be an incredible work of art, which is what I'm really hoping they don't mess up. Contrary to everything I wrote above, I don't hate SAO with a dying passion. SAO is probably one of my favorite franchises, yet I feel as if I'd have the same criticism if I were to look at Alicization totally objectively. However, the only discussion I see is, either OP loves SAO, great ep, awesome, etc or OP hates SAO, wtf is this? Even though I've bashed on Alicization quite a bit, it's not as if SAO has suddenly become unbearable to watch, it's still fairly enjoyable with some great scenes like the latest eps Bercouli vs Vecta. I just have to wonder if anyone else has the stance of still more or less enjoying the ride, just expected a lot more / is disappointed or maybe I just set the expectations to high myself? |
InorichiJul 18, 2020 7:55 PM
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| Whatever the case, just had to rant again due to Stacia Asuna - probably the only time Asuna actually shines in the series, being cut and DIL changing classes from Villain to Clown. |
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| Nothing is bad the overboard on that Leafa scene. Compare to isekai and shounen anime recently the SAO art and animation is great. |
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chriskor022 said: Nothing is bad the overboard on that Leafa scene. Compare to isekai and shounen anime recently the SAO art and animation is great. Idk if you read my post, but I never said the Leafa scene was overboard or bad. The problem wasn't Leafa, it was DIL jumping and dancing like a clown. "Just the way this scene looks turns a dark and desperate scene into a meme." Comparing art and animation in Alicization post ep 4 to anime like Shield Hero, Tensura, Rezero s2, Bofuri, even Hamefura had better overall fight scenes with the small exception like Bercouli vs Vecta imo. Idk which isekai you were comparing to but in terms of recent isekai, that's all that comes to mind. |
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Inorichi said: nope the example you chose have a bad artstyle and animation too like SAO with the exception when have a big fight. With action is on stills and half assed low budget. Its called insulting if the example you gave SAO is bad in terms of animation. With how polish this season than the most anime is saying something that they gonna gave effort to deliver the ending of this arc.chriskor022 said: Nothing is bad the overboard on that Leafa scene. Compare to isekai and shounen anime recently the SAO art and animation is great. Idk if you read my post, but I never said the Leafa scene was overboard or bad. The problem wasn't Leafa, it was DIL jumping and dancing like a clown. "Just the way this scene looks turns a dark and desperate scene into a meme." Comparing art and animation in Alicization post ep 4 to anime like Shield Hero, Tensura, Rezero s2, Bofuri, even Hamefura had better overall fight scenes with the small exception like Bercouli vs Vecta imo. Idk which isekai you were comparing to but in terms of recent isekai, that's all that comes to mind. |
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| i think you are kinda nitpicking |
 ”A fight isn't won once a victor is decided, it's won when someone loses.” – Izayoi SakamakiI don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
| also you are comparing a good scene with a bad ones WoU did also have a good animations https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=6&tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld infacat in terms of pure animation WoU did have better animation than alicization first two parts also you are comparing the two first part against only the one part that is WoU why don't you wait until part 2 of WoU finished ? |
| ”A fight isn't won once a victor is decided, it's won when someone loses.” – Izayoi Sakamaki I don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
chriskor022 said: Inorichi said: nope the example you chose have a bad artstyle and animation too like SAO with the exception when have a big fight. With action is on stills and half assed low budget. Its called insulting if the example you gave SAO is bad in terms of animation. With how polish this season than the most anime is saying something that they gonna gave effort to deliver the ending of this arc.Idk if you read my post, but I never said the Leafa scene was overboard or bad. The problem wasn't Leafa, it was DIL jumping and dancing like a clown. "Just the way this scene looks turns a dark and desperate scene into a meme." Comparing art and animation in Alicization post ep 4 to anime like Shield Hero, Tensura, Rezero s2, Bofuri, even Hamefura had better overall fight scenes with the small exception like Bercouli vs Vecta imo. Idk which isekai you were comparing to but in terms of recent isekai, that's all that comes to mind. Not sure what example i chose you're talking about, I'll just use 2 different examples to clearly convey what I'm trying to say, since I'm pretty sure we're not on the same page here. If you still disagree, well we can agree to disagree then lol. Good Art + Animation Alicization episode 4. Dynamic Camera Angles. Fluid Animation. Parrying, Exchanges, wide variety of action. Large color palette for characters, shading, blood, etc. Visible sword clash particle effects.   Bad Art + Animation Alicization episode 15. Still Camera. Animation? Reused swinging animation. Feet, Body, Head, Faces are not moving. Minimal color palette for character, no eye whites, poor shading. Effects = White and Orange blobs. |
InorichiJul 18, 2020 8:21 PM
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I could be kind of nit picking. Compared to S1 S2, which I read the novels for. Although a small cut was made in S1, A-1 changed the formatting to be linear and included Vol 2 between the parts of Vol 1 to make a complete story. I wasn't disappointed by either S1 or 2 at all, in fact S1 did pretty a pretty good job imo. I liked em as much as the novels. Alicization on the other hand, is more of a roller coaster. The first 4 eps went above and beyond, adding more than what the novels had, a lot of what came after is what disappointed me. Askaa said: also you are comparing a good scene with a bad ones WoU did also have a good animations https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=6&tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld infacat in terms of pure animation WoU did have better animation than alicization first two parts also you are comparing the two first part against only the one part that is WoU why don't you wait until part 2 of WoU finished ? Sorry bad wording. I meant as Alicization went on within Cour 1-2 after ep 4, the art got progressively worse, until Bercouli vs Eugeo. Alicization WOU did have better art for the most part imo, however, in terms of pure art and animation I still think nothing has trumped Kirito vs Goblin Chief yet, perhaps Bercouli vs Vecta, but aside from that about every other fight wasn't as good, which is kind of disappointing when there's less going on in a fight against an all powerful integrity knight than a measly goblin chief. As for comparing 'good scenes' with 'bad ones' - That's my problem. Why are there bad scenes or why does the quality drop in certain scenes? The inconsistency. The art is sometimes good. Sometimes bad. I'm not looking for pristine Ordinal Scale, Heavens Feel level art, effects, and animation. I just want them to stick to a certain level of quality, whether it's medium or great or even an older original 2012 SAO art style with less flashier and detailed art, as it feels like some scenes are sacrificed so they can focus on other ones. I'm not comparing Cour 1-2 to 3. I'm just talking about overall in Alicization compared to other SAO seasons, or even other anime. Minus long running shounens which have this exact problem. The art is consistently good and the same throughout all of S1, S2, Ordinal Scale. Suddenly we're met with episodes that have good art, and others with pretty bad art. Like although it's not a smart idea to have all your animators focus on a side characters fight, I would have rather waited an extra 2-3 years for every fight to be consistently average. Because not even a blu ray release, unless they pull a Mekakucity Actors (aka redraw the entire anime), can fix some of the fights. For example: Kirito vs Fanatio. This scene cant be fixed unless they totally redraw it with the characters actually moving their bodies. |
InorichiJul 18, 2020 8:29 PM
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| im agree with you about action scenes and choreography, the goblin fight from episode 4 of Alicization has the best choreography and camera movement imo. Fanatio v Kirito was good tho, but Eugeo v Bercouli, Alice v Kirito & Eugeo and Quinella v Kirito was a disappoinment for me. I was expecting more of goblin boss fight choreography instead of one-two slash fight, thank god Bercouli v Vector atleast has great sakuga. For the rest of story compared to the source i have no comment cuz i didnt read the source |
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Inorichi said: I could be kind of nit picking. Compared to S1 S2, which I read the novels for. Although a small cut was made in S1, A-1 changed the formatting to be linear and included Vol 2 between the parts of Vol 1 to make a complete story. I wasn't disappointed by either S1 or 2 at all, in fact S1 did pretty a pretty good job imo. I liked em as much as the novels. Alicization on the other hand, is more of a roller coaster. The first 4 eps went above and beyond, adding more than what the novels had, a lot of what came after is what disappointed me. Askaa said: also you are comparing a good scene with a bad ones WoU did also have a good animations https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=6&tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld infacat in terms of pure animation WoU did have better animation than alicization first two parts also you are comparing the two first part against only the one part that is WoU why don't you wait until part 2 of WoU finished ? Sorry bad wording. I meant as Alicization went on within Cour 1-2 after ep 4, the art got progressively worse, until Bercouli vs Eugeo. Alicization WOU did have better art for the most part imo, however, in terms of pure art and animation I still think nothing has trumped Kirito vs Goblin Chief yet, perhaps Bercouli vs Vecta, but aside from that about every other fight wasn't as good, which is kind of disappointing when there's less going on in a fight against an all powerful integrity knight than a measly goblin chief. well i don't think you have to worry about this part we have kanno as animation director and we did get another new animation director called hirokatsu maruyama and without forgetting the director of photography Waki and so many other animators we can assume that this part gonna be pretty awesome and don't forget this is the last part of alicization so there is a big chance that we gonna see some old animators from the first two seasons appear here and there |
| ”A fight isn't won once a victor is decided, it's won when someone loses.” – Izayoi Sakamaki I don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
Inorichi said: Now the part that disappointed me throughout almost every episode after ep 4. Why was the art and animation so poor? Alicization (first part) suffered from quite heavy production issues, with some talented animators/animation directors disappearing after ep. 4 and only coming back in ep. 10 and the OP2, or not coming back at all. The guys who animated a lot in ep. 15 also carried the show in penultimate episodes, with some talent coming back in ep. 24 too. That being said, things did improve drastically in WoU, and I'm afraid you aren't right in attacking the second part. I mean, see for yourself: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld - particularly this https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114462 (see the comment for precise timestamp) was animated by the same guy who worked on that goblin fight from episode 4, not to mention that even the first part of WoU has some "nice and fluid" animation https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/112067 (and it's not even from someone very famous... the animator is talented indeed, but this kind of "fluidity" shows that they did have a better schedule working on WoU). So in short, I agree that LN is better and I also agree that part 1 of Alicization anime could've been much better. But in WoU they're doing the best they can do, animation-wise at least - and the most recent episodes, both 13 and the final scenes from 14, were perfectly fine. The writing and dialogues, though, were dumbed down so badly that people either stopped to care, completely forgot, or didn't even notice significant plot points and important lore elements in the first place. Essentially, the thing people are watching now is not even close to what the writer created. I'd like to call it "a bare minimum" kind of anime. |
Inorichi said: fair but the animation still looks great and with BD it tweaks some error. And add some effects and shading. The example you give is pause frame by frame so it looks weird. Just what we call in between cuts, but they fix it in the BD. And another reason is different CAD and AD animate. And yes agree to disagree.chriskor022 said: nope the example you chose have a bad artstyle and animation too like SAO with the exception when have a big fight. With action is on stills and half assed low budget. Its called insulting if the example you gave SAO is bad in terms of animation. With how polish this season than the most anime is saying something that they gonna gave effort to deliver the ending of this arc. Not sure what example i chose you're talking about, I'll just use 2 different examples to clearly convey what I'm trying to say, since I'm pretty sure we're not on the same page here. If you still disagree, well we can agree to disagree then lol. Good Art + Animation Alicization episode 4. Dynamic Camera Angles. Fluid Animation. Parrying, Exchanges, wide variety of action. Large color palette for characters, shading, blood, etc. Visible sword clash particle effects. Bad Art + Animation Alicization episode 15. Still Camera. Animation? Reused swinging animation. Feet, Body, Head, Faces are not moving. Minimal color palette for character, no eye whites, poor shading. Effects = White and Orange blobs. |
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Aelyn said: Inorichi said: Now the part that disappointed me throughout almost every episode after ep 4. Why was the art and animation so poor? Alicization (first part) suffered from quite heavy production issues, with some talented animators/animation directors disappearing after ep. 4 and only coming back in ep. 10 and the OP2, or not coming back at all. The guys who animated a lot in ep. 15 also carried the show in penultimate episodes, with some talent coming back in ep. 24 too. That being said, things did improve drastically in WoU, and I'm afraid you aren't right in attacking the second part. I mean, see for yourself: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld - particularly this https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114462 (see the comment for precise timestamp) was animated by the same guy who worked on that goblin fight from episode 4, not to mention that even the first part of WoU has some "nice and fluid" animation https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/112067 (and it's not even from someone very famous... the animator is talented indeed, but this kind of "fluidity" shows that they did have a better schedule working on WoU). So in short, I agree that LN is better and I also agree that part 1 of Alicization anime could've been much better. But in WoU they're doing the best they can do, animation-wise at least - and the most recent episodes, both 13 and the final scenes from 14, were perfectly fine. The writing and dialogues, though, were dumbed down so badly that people either stopped to care, completely forgot, or didn't even notice significant plot points and important lore elements in the first place. Essentially, the thing people are watching now is not even close to what the writer created. I'd like to call it "a bare minimum" kind of anime. Yeah animation wise I agree that WOU's (important) fights are significantly better, although a lot has been cut (like Stacia Asuna doing actual fighting) and story elements, like you said, being dumbed down. Still a bit salty about Stacia Asuna being basically a background character rn with really weak 'action' scenes if you can call it that. Askaa said: Inorichi said: I could be kind of nit picking. Compared to S1 S2, which I read the novels for. Although a small cut was made in S1, A-1 changed the formatting to be linear and included Vol 2 between the parts of Vol 1 to make a complete story. I wasn't disappointed by either S1 or 2 at all, in fact S1 did pretty a pretty good job imo. I liked em as much as the novels. Alicization on the other hand, is more of a roller coaster. The first 4 eps went above and beyond, adding more than what the novels had, a lot of what came after is what disappointed me. Sorry bad wording. I meant as Alicization went on within Cour 1-2 after ep 4, the art got progressively worse, until Bercouli vs Eugeo. Alicization WOU did have better art for the most part imo, however, in terms of pure art and animation I still think nothing has trumped Kirito vs Goblin Chief yet, perhaps Bercouli vs Vecta, but aside from that about every other fight wasn't as good, which is kind of disappointing when there's less going on in a fight against an all powerful integrity knight than a measly goblin chief. well i don't think you have to worry about this part we have kanno as animation director and we did get another new animation director called hirokatsu maruyama and without forgetting the director of photography Waki and so many other animators we can assume that this part gonna be pretty awesome and don't forget this is the last part of alicization so there is a big chance that we gonna see some old animators from the first two seasons appear here and there Where did you both hear about the staff / production issues btw? I totally missed any news of that. |
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Inorichi said: Aelyn said: Alicization (first part) suffered from quite heavy production issues, with some talented animators/animation directors disappearing after ep. 4 and only coming back in ep. 10 and the OP2, or not coming back at all. The guys who animated a lot in ep. 15 also carried the show in penultimate episodes, with some talent coming back in ep. 24 too. That being said, things did improve drastically in WoU, and I'm afraid you aren't right in attacking the second part. I mean, see for yourself: https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=sword_art_online_alicization_war_of_underworld - particularly this https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/114462 (see the comment for precise timestamp) was animated by the same guy who worked on that goblin fight from episode 4, not to mention that even the first part of WoU has some "nice and fluid" animation https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/112067 (and it's not even from someone very famous... the animator is talented indeed, but this kind of "fluidity" shows that they did have a better schedule working on WoU). So in short, I agree that LN is better and I also agree that part 1 of Alicization anime could've been much better. But in WoU they're doing the best they can do, animation-wise at least - and the most recent episodes, both 13 and the final scenes from 14, were perfectly fine. The writing and dialogues, though, were dumbed down so badly that people either stopped to care, completely forgot, or didn't even notice significant plot points and important lore elements in the first place. Essentially, the thing people are watching now is not even close to what the writer created. I'd like to call it "a bare minimum" kind of anime. Yeah animation wise I agree that WOU's (important) fights are significantly better, although a lot has been cut (like Stacia Asuna doing actual fighting) and story elements, like you said, being dumbed down. Still a bit salty about Stacia Asuna being basically a background character rn with really weak 'action' scenes if you can call it that. Askaa said: well i don't think you have to worry about this part we have kanno as animation director and we did get another new animation director called hirokatsu maruyama and without forgetting the director of photography Waki and so many other animators we can assume that this part gonna be pretty awesome and don't forget this is the last part of alicization so there is a big chance that we gonna see some old animators from the first two seasons appear here and there Where did you both hear about the staff / production issues btw? I totally missed any news of that. like this https://twitter.com/K1zu_kun/status/1280791098324062208 or from the animators accounts like this https://twitter.com/HiconManiacs/status/1284520306804092930 or https://twitter.com/P1B9f44VEGyAe8n/status/1284536826712080385 and then there is sakugabooru https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=23&tags=sword_art_online_series |
| ”A fight isn't won once a victor is decided, it's won when someone loses.” – Izayoi Sakamaki I don’t even know the real names of the two… no, three that I killed back then. I just closed my eyes, put my hands over my ears and tried to forget it all.” – Kirito MY ANIME LIST |
Inorichi said: Where did you both hear about the staff / production issues btw? I totally missed any news of that. Staff is always credited in the ED, you just need to be able to read Japanese - and you also have to possess some level of knowledge about certain individuals working in anime industry. Both https://blog.sakugabooru.com/ and https://www.sakugabooru.com/ are useful in gathering up that knowledge, although in my opinion it's not worth to do it deliberately. You may just start browsing Sakugabooru and you'll end up becoming familiar with some names... eventually. With all of this put aside, though, it would be still quite useless unless you'd also learn how to read names in the ED credits, lol. edit: missed one word |
autistic_potatoJul 18, 2020 10:33 PM
Askaa said: Inorichi said: Yeah animation wise I agree that WOU's (important) fights are significantly better, although a lot has been cut (like Stacia Asuna doing actual fighting) and story elements, like you said, being dumbed down. Still a bit salty about Stacia Asuna being basically a background character rn with really weak 'action' scenes if you can call it that. Where did you both hear about the staff / production issues btw? I totally missed any news of that. like this https://twitter.com/K1zu_kun/status/1280791098324062208 or from the animators accounts like this https://twitter.com/HiconManiacs/status/1284520306804092930 or https://twitter.com/P1B9f44VEGyAe8n/status/1284536826712080385 and then there is sakugabooru https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?page=23&tags=sword_art_online_series thanks (*~▽~) lol makes sense. i never use twitter. |
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Aelyn said: Inorichi said: Where did you both hear about the staff / production issues btw? I totally missed any news of that. Staff is always credited in the ED, you just need to be able to read Japanese - and you also have to possess some level of knowledge about certain individuals working in anime industry. Both https://blog.sakugabooru.com/ and https://www.sakugabooru.com/ are useful in gathering up that knowledge, although in my opinion it's not worth to do it deliberately. You may just start browsing Sakugabooru and you'll end up becoming familiar some names... eventually. With all of this put aside, though, it would be still quite useless unless you'd also learn how to read names in the ED credits, lol. No idea if I'll ever be able to do that. Unfortunately, I'm still illiterate in Japanese xd |
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Inorichi said: No idea if I'll ever be able to do that. Unfortunately, I'm still illiterate in Japanese xd Well, if you want to be aware of the staff in a specific episode in general, it's also viable to visit official website ("story" page) of a corresponding anime: https://sao-alicization.net/story/ 脚本：漆原虹平 絵コンテ：中山奈緒美、菅野芳弘 演出：濱崎徹 総作画監督：鈴木豪 作画監督：古住千秋、チョン・ヨンフン、世良コータ、監物ケビン雄太、久松沙紀 アクション作画監督：菅野芳弘 Then you just put it into Google Translate 脚本 - Screenplay 絵コンテ - Storyboard 演出 - Director 総作画監督 - Chief animation director 作画監督 - Animation director アクション作画監督 - Action animation director and finally you search for Japanese names on ANN: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=41664 (or on some other website, idk). Still, the animators aren't credited there so it's not like this info will be exceptionally useful. |
| I was disappointed by the first part of Alicization of how rushed and badly adapted it was. But on the other hand WoU had a way better adaptation imo. And the inconsistency in the quality is just another part of a long season. The budget and most skillful animation are reserved for the epic scenes (like in yesterday's episode). Rest of the scenes had decent to animation and that's pretty good imo. Btw, let's see if they can carry on the quality of the adaptation from the 2nd episode. |
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biswa290701 said: I was disappointed by the first part of Alicization of how rushed and badly adapted it was. But on the other hand WoU had a way better adaptation imo. And the inconsistency in the quality is just another part of a long season. The budget and most skillful animation are reserved for the epic scenes (like in yesterday's episode). Rest of the scenes had decent to animation and that's pretty good imo. Btw, let's see if they can carry on the quality of the adaptation from the 2nd episode. Yeah makes sense, though I much rather would have seen it split into 4 cours aired at different times for the sake of quality. Reading your reply and rewatching some of the original S1 fights made me realize why I still had some gripes over the animation in WOU. Although the fights were great and incredibly memorable, trying to enjoy the season / anime as one long singular narrative is difficult because the quality just instantly jumps for some great fights and then drops for other lesser important scenes which disrupts the flow. Probably just a me thing, since I wouldn't have minded 'much' if the art, animation, and level of detail were the exact same as S1. |
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MarkBC said: Well to be fair , I would let things aside and try to enjoy the last 9 episodes of Alicization , A-1 knows what they are doing , it would be alright for the last episodes. In terms of animation , it's getting better through episodes and A-1 also has a 6-month delay (the 4th cour is supposed to be premiered right after the 3rd cour , which is in January 2020), so the staff would have no problems of flexing the budget to bring out the best quality of this show. For now , just enjoy the series and pray for the 4th and final season , Unital Ring (Still hope that Cradle of the Moon and the Progressive series will have the chance to be adapted but only Unital Ring would be alright to me) I believe all will be adapted. Though, it's possible that may not happen as seeing Alicization... I'm still not entirely certain what the production issues for Alicization completely entailed - why certain staff left post ep 4, as this is (imo) the most important installment to the animated SAO franchise. Makes me question the future of the SAO anime(s) slightly. I'd take it with a grain of salt, as many things change over time - a series popularity, the profitability, the time and costs of adapting a longer or more fight-battle heavy arc. https://www.reddit.com/r/swordartonline/comments/3c7479/news_sao_anime_will_continue_as_long_as_original/ Apparently it was declared, that as long as Reki Kawahara sensei's original LN SAO continues, the anime will also continue. Unfortunately no A-1 Accel World, which is pretty disappointing. Poor AW. Though the way they phrased it did seem like they have no intentions of adapting Progressive, if they continue to adapt SAO, I'm pretty sure Progressive has a decent chance at being adapted next with the chronology kind of jumping after the end of Alicization. If I could just throw out my hopes and dreams, I wish they'd adapt Progressive into a long running movie series with Ordinal Scale lvl of quality and consistency. Something similar to Heavens Feel or a Marvel movie (aka top notch, high quality stuff) every 1-2-ish years, which would hopefully give the ln's enough leeway to stay ahead. (And overall be more profitable for the franchise imo, as it's way harder to pirate movies and OS did get pretty decent worldwide theater reception). While doing airing a Moon Cradle Adaptation. Which I'd hope is longer than 1 cour, but it doesn't really look like 2 cour material unless they add some original scenes here and there and just prolong the season. Translations were not up to 19 yet (or even properly 18) when I read the novels so I only know the setting for Moon Cradle and nothing regarding the plot so it'd be pretty exciting if it did get animated. As for unital ring, since it's the final arc of SAO, I hope they don't try and adapt it too early on. At the very least wait until the last novel is released, maybe do some announcement with the final SAO novel that it'll be adapted. But that's if it gets adapted... I have no idea if it's the studio's fault or the staff's fault Alicization had issues, but it could result in just all future SAO adaptions being thrown out the window if they havent started, or perhaps thoughts of a (basically) sidestory / 'recap' like progressive not getting an adaptation. And if for some reason, I'm in some miracle timeline where all my hopes and dreams come true, I wish they'd simultaneously announce a re-adaption of Alicization before the airing of Unital Ring as a 6 cour season and work with Reki to just flesh out some characters a bit more and change the narrative to work better in an anime format with that top notch art, animation, and consistency. Honestly, I would be fine if retired Alice and potato Kirito had an entire cour to themselves just as a slice of life in Rulid Village. |
InorichiJul 21, 2020 4:27 PM
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| Good comparison. It is a matter of fact that WoU is inferior to Alicization. But i'm not disappointed because only gets like this who was expecting something better. To be honest, it is a relief that the quality is not so low at the pont of this season to be bashed down, like happened with OPM S2 for example. Most of people will not notice. Even the current season Re:Zero is facing a downgrade in the quality of art/animation. |
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