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Jan 4, 2019 9:48 PM

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as i said, it wasn't that bad. i felt the korean fans were overexaggerating, especially since people are already asking for a S2.
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people would want to ask for more since this series has a special place in their hearts and people dont want to let go.
smh people need to let go
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To be fair, Noblesse always reused the same the same plot devices over and over. How many times did he use the "my power is nearly depleted, I can't use it > I still use it to save my friend > someone give me part of his > I use it 3 chapters laters > my power is nearly depleted > repeat".
What surprise me is that the whole Werewolf was probably the best of the series, it changed the overused tropes we already seen. But I think what the fans are pissed about are all the hinted but never explored routes, like redhaired guy being on par with low lvl modified humans (also, the ship between him and Seira that was very strongly hinted). The absolute inutility of the school character. The Rai brother thing, that was here and there. The why of his whereabout in the begining never were clearly explained either. The whole last arc seemed like a "I don't care anymore", after what was probably the best arc of the whole story. It was a freaking rollercoaster.

And for fuck sakes, Nuclear bombs. That's probably the worse idea. Him to finding anymore power would have been a more satisfying ending. Of course people assumed it was about his new story.
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Turtles_Hunter said:
To be fair, Noblesse always reused the same the same plot devices over and over. How many times did he use the "my power is nearly depleted, I can't use it > I still use it to save my friend > someone give me part of his > I use it 3 chapters laters > my power is nearly depleted > repeat".
What surprise me is that the whole Werewolf was probably the best of the series, it changed the overused tropes we already seen. But I think what the fans are pissed about are all the hinted but never explored routes, like redhaired guy being on par with low lvl modified humans (also, the ship between him and Seira that was very strongly hinted). The absolute inutility of the school character. The Rai brother thing, that was here and there. The why of is whereabout in the begining never were clearly explained either. The whole last arc seemed like a "I don't care anymore", after what was probably the best arc of the whole story. It was a freaking rollercoaster.

And for fuck sakes, Nuclear bombs. That's probably the worse idea. Him to finding anymore power would have been a more satisfying ending. Of course people assumed it was about his new story.

yes im glad someone thinks like me.
i really didnt like the misuse of the classmates and the brother as well.
however, i think many people are forgiving of this because this webtoon holds a special place in their hearts. (for me thats tog) and that is why people will forgive it and demand more
Jan 6, 2019 11:33 PM

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2019 Said To "Be The Year Of Webtoon"

on march 3rd, naver plans to upgrade ("revamp") their webtoon services (does this mean that they'll finally make people pay for their stories?).

also there's this, which i can't understand in this translation. make of it as you will.
Naver focuses on expanding its business model (BM) of 'Nobel WebTun', a customized Noble comics platform, 'Series', and 'Line WebTun', a subsidiary.


studio N (if you've been doing your homework correctly, you know it's their drama studio) also plans to release 10 stories (the direct translation is "10 lineups") throughout the year. let's hope they get successful so LICO can get to work as well!

there's also "Naver Books" which i suppose means they'll be publishing physical versions of webtoon. they'll also work on releasing games (which we already know) along with TV shows and movies as well.

oh and just as i thought, whatever i read about that other webtoon company, it must have been lying, mistaken or translated wrong because this article solidifies that naver's #1 spot has not changed in korea, japan, indonesia etc.

as for kakao, they're just collabing with a lot of big named companies for more drama adaptions. both webtoon companies are working hard to strengthen their IPs. it's also mentioned that experts said that it would be best to market in the west than ever before, so we could expect some korean stories in US line at last?

EDIT:i messed up big time by accidentally posting this in my first post, which deleted everything that was in it. i salvaged a lot of it and it will be fixed by tomorrow.
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Jan 17, 2019 11:25 AM

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a warning to naver and webtoon companies to not make the same mistakes japan did that made the downfall of their anime and manga medium. very interesting. (long post)

Jan 17, 2019 12:59 PM

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can u dumb it down for me? I cannot make much sense of it
Jan 18, 2019 2:08 PM

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okay so

webtoon's competition is a rigid as ever, but now the quality is dropping, when originally line only allowed high quality stories to get published. moreover, a lot of otaku are reading it more and more (line's rating in japan, duh) and so it appears original authors are either writing junk food stories or others are pandering to them. this could hurt webtoon and make them as much as a joke anime and manga is now.

also, he says that even in high quality webtoon stories it doesn't rely on ploy as much as manga and rely on character and visuals, which isn't wrong but that means they need to pull a lot more effort than the golden age of manga.
Jan 19, 2019 9:50 AM

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TomDay said:
okay so

webtoon's competition is a rigid as ever, but now the quality is dropping, when originally line only allowed high quality stories to get published. moreover, a lot of otaku are reading it more and more (line's rating in japan, duh) and so it appears original authors are either writing junk food stories or others are pandering to them. this could hurt webtoon and make them as much as a joke anime and manga is now.

also, he says that even in high quality webtoon stories it doesn't rely on ploy as much as manga and rely on character and visuals, which isn't wrong but that means they need to pull a lot more effort than the golden age of manga.


i understand where this is coming from. Hell these days, im not even impressed by the visuals of most new series.
We do need some other big webtoons to fill the shoes of nobless/gotw/etc
Jan 19, 2019 12:46 PM

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indeed we do. we only have ToG and GoH. i would say "girls of the wild" but people are complaining about the quality already. i swear, blade note could have been the making of a worldknown masterpiece if it wasn't cancelled. i was just thinking about it as i woke up today. fans still come back to the story even now (even though it's been cancelled since 2016), begging for it to be continued. everyone knew the story was going to be promising.

anyways. yeah, line (and everyone else) need to up their game. quantity and availability isn't going to rival or even surpass webtoon, it's the quality. i wish i could be work with line and give them suggestions on what to do to stay ahead of the game. the webtoon business hasn't even been out 20yrs and people are already complaining of the quality. that can't be good. even manga had a longer live than that. and with webtoon it's not really acceptable since anything can be written and published as long as it's good, censorship isn't a thing with them that mangaka suffer with.
Jan 20, 2019 11:58 PM

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TomDay said:
indeed we do. we only have ToG and GoH. i would say "girls of the wild" but people are complaining about the quality already. i swear, blade note could have been the making of a worldknown masterpiece if it wasn't cancelled. i was just thinking about it as i woke up today. fans still come back to the story even now (even though it's been cancelled since 2016), begging for it to be continued. everyone knew the story was going to be promising.

anyways. yeah, line (and everyone else) need to up their game. quantity and availability isn't going to rival or even surpass webtoon, it's the quality. i wish i could be work with line and give them suggestions on what to do to stay ahead of the game. the webtoon business hasn't even been out 20yrs and people are already complaining of the quality. that can't be good. even manga had a longer live than that. and with webtoon it's not really acceptable since anything can be written and published as long as it's good, censorship isn't a thing with them that mangaka suffer with.

Its also comes to mind that most new popular webtoons are of romance genre-which are not expected to blow up compared to action series
what series do have amazing art tho?
solo leveling?
gosu?
a world where i belong?
what else?
Jan 21, 2019 11:03 PM

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Fisheye placebo- amazing art
Magician- non standard


Jan 22, 2019 1:55 PM

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fisheye isn't korean though. or american now that i think about it.
Jan 22, 2019 2:02 PM

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what is it then? xd
Jan 23, 2019 12:32 AM

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Hmmm...yuumei comes from china but lives in us..not sure how you categorize thou


Jan 24, 2019 10:50 AM

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it took 2 months for mods to get rid of my sig....okay🙃

she's chinese, end of. unless she has a US citizenship which i don't think she does.
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TomDay said:
it took 2 months for mods to get rid of my sig....okay🙃

she's chinese, end of. unless she has a US citizenship which i don't think she does.

the more u talk in the public forums the more likely it is that ur sig would be removed.
Jan 25, 2019 2:35 PM

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ah okay, that makes sense. looks like i'll hide here then.
Jan 31, 2019 10:28 PM

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according to this article naver is coming out with naver TV. i tried searching it up in korean but there's nothing in the news about it, so i assume it's not out but under development. if you guessed that "naver TV" is internet based, you'd be spot on.

another article reads,
In addition, Naver WebTuning, V Live and other content services also puts the power. Naver will also expand its domestic revenue model to overseas, as well as production and distribution of secondary contents such as movies and dramas. We are planning to make more than 20 popular webtoons in movies and dramas through Studio (N), a video production subsidiary newly established last year.


also, a webtoon is getting an animation adaption but i doubt we will be able to see it, just like that lezhin movie. korean animation has no attention if it isn't associated with the US (family guy) or japan (basically any anime nowadays)
Jan 31, 2019 10:40 PM

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I saw Orange marmelade is a tv show on netflix 🤔


Feb 1, 2019 12:08 AM
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I saw Orange marmelade is a tv show on netflix 🤔


whAT????
Feb 1, 2019 2:57 AM

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Ridleys said:


whAT????


Yes, would post screenshot, but not sure how to put it in here.. It looks like it's from 2015


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Ridleys said:


whAT????


Yes, would post screenshot, but not sure how to put it in here.. It looks like it's from 2015


dw I searched it up and I am surprised actually, though I am not sure why.
Feb 5, 2019 11:58 PM

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same ridley, idk why you would be so surprised when drama'd webtoon is so common lmao
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https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2004487#_enliple

i saw the trailer to this webtoon and it's SOOOOOO good. too bad there's no trans. i would be hyped it's getting drama'd but i just can't. koreans are such terrible actors, almost as bad as japanese ones. it doesn't matter if it's successful in this case to me.
Feb 6, 2019 1:00 AM

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same ridley, idk why you would be so surprised when drama'd webtoon is so common lmao
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https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2004487#_enliple

i saw the trailer to this webtoon and it's SOOOOOO good. too bad there's no trans. i would be hyped it's getting drama'd but i just can't. koreans are such terrible actors, almost as bad as japanese ones. it doesn't matter if it's successful in this case to me.
I cant seem to find the trailer..maybe due to my shitty net
the synopsis seems nice tho
Feb 6, 2019 1:02 PM

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i can't find it either lmao, it was long ago. hold on
Feb 6, 2019 1:15 PM

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found it, although looking at it now it doesn't seem like the same story??? either way it's still good
Feb 12, 2019 11:17 AM

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naver TV has been failing for a while now (a type of youtube) and there have been speculations that they are using their adaptions to upload and stream on their site. maybe that's why there isn't a lot of info about naver TV.

http://m.thebell.co.kr/m/newsview.asp?svccode=00&newskey=201902110100009250000605
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Is it just me or is naver just going down in general?
Feb 12, 2019 2:52 PM

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hm, perhaps. i wouldn't say that's completely invalid. maybe all their subunits is becoming too much for them.
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this video is so embarrassing. for one thing, for a service that is supposed to share comics in ENGLISH and they can't even say comparable right made me cringe. secondly, they didn't really clarify the difference of webtoon to regular comics, only that it wasn't "paper", and thirdly....this is 2019. the site started in 2014. why just NOW are they releasing a video like this? all of this is just a mess imo.
Mar 7, 2019 11:40 AM
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Why does this even exist at this point.
Mar 7, 2019 11:47 PM

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it feels like to me it was a half hearted atempt
Mar 10, 2019 5:30 PM

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as i was notified, the your letter webtoon was eng transed, and along with a subbed trailer. i'm so overwhelmed by the amount of people asking for an "anime movie" adaptation. i know they mean well but the ignorance of their assuming if it's east asian animation it's anime is getting pretty tiring.



btw you guys, my brother has been pushing me for a year to do it and i'm trying to go through with it. since a lot of you here have suffered with me complaining about how ignorant people are on the webtoon/aeni industry, and i don't think that's very productive. i'm going to make a channel that's about the info of webtoon and aeni, and make it into a three parter. before i can do anything, though, i need to find an editing service and i haven't found a working free version of adobe after effects yet.
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and yes, that video is pretty lukewarm. after looking at that video it, it only pushed me further to do my video series. i really wish i was the marketing manager of line, i know exactly what i would do.
Mar 10, 2019 11:27 PM

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hmm ill look if i can find some crack and dm u
do u torrent stuff @tomday?
Mar 11, 2019 4:14 AM
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So you're gonna start a yt channel? Good luck!
Mar 11, 2019 9:29 AM

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TomDay said:


this video is so embarrassing. for one thing, for a service that is supposed to share comics in ENGLISH and they can't even say comparable right made me cringe. secondly, they didn't really clarify the difference of webtoon to regular comics, only that it wasn't "paper", and thirdly....this is 2019. the site started in 2014. why just NOW are they releasing a video like this? all of this is just a mess imo.
Because Line is a bunch of incompetent dumbfuck? They are not even able to communicate on why they delay things.
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interesting question. i do torrent but not frequently though, i just like zip files more.

thanks for the positive kamehameha ridley, lol.



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Because Line is a bunch of incompetent dumbfuck? They are not even able to communicate on why they delay things.

delay? what stories have they delayed?
Mar 14, 2019 6:51 AM

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TomDay said:

Turtles_Hunter said:
not even able to communicate on why they delay things.

delay? what stories have they delayed?
ToG.
Mar 14, 2019 11:41 AM

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Turtles_Hunter said:

ToG.

do you know how much ahead korean line is?
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ToG.

do you know how much ahead korean line is?
ToG had a hiatus, and just before the hiatus, they delayed the last chapter of one week. People thought it was problem, but the series started again this sunday, and there was no release in english.
What annoy people is that they said nothing about it. Just did that, without annoucement, without explanation So most people assume they will delay from at least one week from now on. That might be more, since they didn't give an exact return date (which they did in the past when there was a several week hiatus, the return date was given at least one week before it came back). Some argue they want to implement a fastpast. But they already have the 3 preview chapters for that.
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TomDay said:

do you know how much ahead korean line is?
ToG had a hiatus, and just before the hiatus, they delayed the last chapter of one week. People thought it was problem, but the series started again this sunday, and there was no release in english.
What annoy people is that they said nothing about it. Just did that, without annoucement, without explanation So most people assume they will delay from at least one week from now on. That might be more, since they didn't give an exact return date (which they did in the past when there was a several week hiatus, the return date was given at least one week before it came back). Some argue they want to implement a fastpast. But they already have the 3 preview chapters for that.


stuff like this makes me not want to support line
i only watch stuff there to support the authors but they need to be clear about wtf they are going to do or it will drive away people, i read the newest chapter on jaimins btw
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Turtles_Hunter said:
ToG had a hiatus, and just before the hiatus, they delayed the last chapter of one week. People thought it was problem, but the series started again this sunday, and there was no release in english.
What annoy people is that they said nothing about it. Just did that, without annoucement, without explanation So most people assume they will delay from at least one week from now on. That might be more, since they didn't give an exact return date (which they did in the past when there was a several week hiatus, the return date was given at least one week before it came back). Some argue they want to implement a fastpast. But they already have the 3 preview chapters for that.


stuff like this makes me not want to support line
i only watch stuff there to support the authors but they need to be clear about wtf they are going to do or it will drive away people, i read the newest chapter on jaimins btw
So, in the end they put a fast past.
But instead of using the 3 korean preview chapters, they put 2 of the 3 and and the last free one. You have to pay for a chapter that is already available for free on the internet in all the other language. The man that thought it was a good thing should be fired... It really annoys me, I've been following ToG to the korean rythm for nearly 7 years (which was also the official english one), and it really annoys me to see have to wait one week for no good reason.
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wow how unbelievably unprofessional is that? disgusting

after tom, who else is head of management? what's going on? do they seriously believe they can do what they say want behind the scenes without telling anyone?
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hey hey , i'm new to this community and I was wondering if anyone knew where I can read the english translation for Dr.Frost s3!!!
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hey hey , i'm new to this community and I was wondering if anyone knew where I can read the english translation for Dr.Frost s3!!!

I think Dr.Frost has been on hiatus.
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okay so because everything has been so quiet (and i don't mean everything regarding webtoon, everything i'm interested in) i was desperate and searched up webtoon animation in korean and looked around for some results. DO NOT GET EXCITED this news is from 2017, but i didn't know this before. so apparently in the same year as lico was developed line also made "webtoon play" specifically for animation shows and clips.

here's a list of previously adapted webtoon:https://koreancontent.kr/852

and an official says

Due to these various OSMUs, support policies, and support from netizens and consumers, WebToon is also moving toward animation. These attempts will surely be positive for the comic and content industries, who are looking for ways to evolve in many ways.



moreover in 2015 there was a type of presentation about korean animation+webtoon, but seeing as i don't know korean i can't say i can figure out much. there's a full transcript at the bottom that can be copied but i put it into google translate and this is all that appeared:

The name of the flower that day was.
What is Webtoon / animation?
It combines' Web (web) 'and' cartoon (manga)

Animation

Use monsters and puppets to postpone monotony. You can make that movie.

웹 optimization

It's a weekday, Harpo Heartbreak drama

It is Sunday.
Mike
inside out
Thank you! :)

Webtoon, Animation
Monthly wage gold, water,

The story of the men

Socks dobby
one piece
It is eternal.
Riley's feelings are stuttering

The dismal friendship story of Jesus and Osubin

minonyms travel

Story of cute animals

Hapuhafu
The voice drama will wear a voice.

Oh Yeong-kyo
If you eat socks at once, the socks are also leather.

Pirates of the protagonist Rupee

Existence The story of the hero, spoon who plays fighting hero.


lastly if you are in the discord you know that i reported that lico has taken up almost all their job applications, some of the job applications being 2D animation. does this mean no-one applied when the deadlines came or they found some people?

that's it. i'll look around later and see what else i can scrap up about this webtoon play service.
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maaan if the news is sooo old i feel like they may have scrapped their projects :/
Apr 6, 2019 12:06 PM

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or maybe they are putting them off for those bad and basic mobile games. perhaps they want to gain revenue from the games before putting money into their drama and aeni studios. all of this just makes me wonder more what is going on for them to hold off doing aeni adaptations since we all know its worth billions of dollars. line has a titanic amount of power whether webtoon related or not, and they could easily get some animation studios to invest in them/give them loans just as they have done with mobile game companies. i hope the second half of this year gives us some action.
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multiple sources, some as early as 14hrs ago, report a conference meeting of korean and chinese businesses meeting together to settle down on animation of webtoon and such. since china has the most hold on animation outside of japan, i wouldn't take this conference lightly.

http://www.haidongzhoumo.com/news/article.html?no=4324

An anime / webtoon company in China has held a business meeting with 150 local companies in China to explore opportunities for entry into China.

KOTRA will host '2019 Korea-China Digital Content (Animation · Webtoon) Partnering Conference' on October 16 (local time) in Hangzhou and 18 (Beijing time) with Seoul Development Agency, On the 22nd.

31 companies from domestic animation and webtuning conducted 521 business consultations with Chinese companies on co-production, platform distribution, and character product development.

At this conference, the Korean animation company Biai Group signed a contract with China KaDa Story (KaDa Historian) regarding the publication of the electronic book of its animation "Gololaj".

Jungdam Media, a maker of Webtoon, has signed a MOU with Longshan Culture Media in Beijing, China, to promote long-term cooperation with the WebToon Imaging Copyright.

KOTRA plans to attract Chinese leading buyers in the Asia-Europe Union Cartoon Connection 2019, an anime / Webtoon business meeting held in Seoul next month, to create successors of Korean companies.

An official from KOTRA said, "Animation and Webtoon are big contents that can be expanded by characters, games, and theme parks." I will do my best to create substantial overseas advancement of Korean content companies. "



perhaps we'll see something next year.
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