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Jul 30, 2017 4:47 PM
#701
How does this specific question help you read me in this mafia game? |
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Jul 30, 2017 4:54 PM
#702
Gwendolly said: The whole of page 8 is a mess. I feel like lucian was nit-picking salmons words in sort of a desperation for a lynch. I really dont see anything strange on salmon right now, I do get where y'all coming from but like I said this is really nit-picking and it may have been legitimate for a first lynch. Interesting that Shinichi and ironace indeed had no doubts on that weak accusation and just simply agreeing with lucian. Do you guys believe you'll get more answers seeing salmon flip than lucian or LW? Albertinos vote looked like a vote of desperation too, so for now he's clear for me too. Pyro just seemed to be straight sheeping lol without even knowing his real reason for voting (#394) #539 @ironace "Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game." Imagine the inactives are indeed scum; the game would be awfully slow and easy to control by them. Should actually avoid that and poke everyone here or they should just die already! Also did you just admit that you'll be inactive in the future too? And I dont see your reasons for voting salmon, if you think Suzune was onto something or even lucian. It seems you are working yourself around them but not getting to the actual problem. aa-dono: Seems to mention stuff that has already been mentioned, but she seems to be analyzing individually and not following others by bringing fresh wind into this case and looking at it from another view. I like what she has to say so far. So neutral. wen: Seems to be staying and pushing on the salmon case #546. #553 yet you think its wasteful going back to him. Has interesting stuff to say but seems more NAI than actual commitment. Haven't read everything what you had to say, so Imma see later. kay I'm stopping on page 12...taking a break xD so far my list and oppinion: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today edit: NAI Man, I thought I was paranoid lol, Lucian and desperate are two things I never expected to see together if they're present he's town. Really so your ok with him being nitpicky but you don't like Lucian doing it? Most if not all reads/accusations will be weak on day 1, doesn't mean they can't be true. Any lynch at this point would provide answers, if lucian is town we would lose a huge asset just to get some answers I don't like those odds. I can't say much on Albert because the way he organizes his posts are very hard to read. Only time a desperation vote should sometimes be a town clear is when you do it to save yourself at EOD. Can't say much about pyro actions cause hes quite experienced. May I ask what is the actual problem you speak of? Also even if they're easy pickings like Iron said I would still lynch them aslong as they aren't like town. I disagree that inactives should just die, because a town can also be inactive. Your little read on dono makes me think you should be town reading her not getting a neutral read. Wen wants us to keep our focus open instead of everyone just being on 1 more which should be a town tell. You should ISO Lucian, so I can see what your seeing. |
Jul 30, 2017 4:56 PM
#703
Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: Gwendolly said: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today So there are two problems I have with your reads list. 1.) You have no townreads? 2.) You pre-associate my alignment off of Lastwhispers flip?? "neutral: lucian (based on LWs flip)" So what you're doing here is actually a logical gap. By assuming Last will flip scum----> information you shouldn't possess as town---> you're saying our interactions are SvS. You don't scumread me, thus we aren't independent scumreads of yours. Iin reality, in the event Last doesn't flip scum, what does that make our interactions? 1.) Yup, I dont have townreads, I have I-get-back-to-you-later-reads 2.) I'm saying it would be interesting if LW flips scum, not just for you but for others too. But your pre associating his alignment with Lucians which is weird. You have not even explained why you think their alignments are the same. Also are you the female version of Logic lol, just telling people their reasons or actions are stupid? |
Jul 30, 2017 4:57 PM
#704
Jul 30, 2017 4:57 PM
#705
Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. So now you're just basically excluding the others. It will be hard to get a collective vote, with so many different oppinions. Is there a candidate where we all think the same about? Let's say there are 4 scum in this game; it would mean they'd have to indirectly convince 4 others to stay on a certain person. I think we should focus on that too in the big picture. But who do you wanna definitely see go? Did you have a list? THose who he mentioned are the ones that are most capable of actually helping to push a lynch forward I believe. |
Jul 30, 2017 4:59 PM
#706
lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: you were the one that kept defending me in that kiznaiver game, I never asked for your help lol, don't give me thatlastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: Zymf said: #539 @ironace That is pretty simple reasoning and it's a very typical conclusion to reach. But especially considering your level of experience, it seems very genuine and town-induced, which gives me a town read on you. Ohhh, does it? Does Alberto strike you as new as well? Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. True like I said though i learned my lesson lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: of course u don't because u were the one who thought of that dumb idealastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. hmm? |
Jul 30, 2017 5:00 PM
#707
I feel like he has the best chance to flip scum due to his inconsistency. Though I also dislike Iron for applying he's an easy lynch like we can't actually provide a real reason to lynch him. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:03 PM
#708
LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm thats pretty much what day 1 lynches are lol. Seeing as how the chance of hitting a town is pretty damn high. If salmon gets lynched it would clear up alot of shit. And what exactly would it 'clear up'? For example if he flips scum, I'm certain someone on his early train bussed him. If he flips town I will most likely reread your entire interaction with him. Plus if he flips scum, I need to reread all the posts by gwen that defend him. If he's town I believe she has a high chance to be town but we will see. A problem I have with last being lynched is, if he flips scum how are we certain that gwen didn't buss him the entirety of day 1 and 2. If he flips town, it's also quite possible that she is scum who is abusing all of last mistakes and mishaps to cause a mis lynch. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:04 PM
#709
LucianRoy said: My questions in 688 and 691 are really important. yes yes I was still catching up smh. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:05 PM
#710
Well if you are often killed night 1 in mafia, you still be alive could be quite supicious so that's why I was curious. Plus someone also mentioned how you would be a good Night kill due to the fact you have a huge amount control over town and alot of people in your pockets haha. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:07 PM
#711
Shinichi-Kun said: don't hmm me, u were like I'm town, but lynch me because we can't to a consensus and I'll be the best option to make the vengeful shot, that was dumb expecially when i had suspicions on kasai and so did many others.lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: Zymf said: #539 @ironace That is pretty simple reasoning and it's a very typical conclusion to reach. But especially considering your level of experience, it seems very genuine and town-induced, which gives me a town read on you. Ohhh, does it? Does Alberto strike you as new as well? Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. True like I said though i learned my lesson lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. hmm? |
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Jul 30, 2017 5:08 PM
#712
lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: don't hmm me, u were like I'm town, but lynch me because we can't to a consensus and I'll be the best option to make the vengeful shot, that was dumb expecially when i had suspicions on kasai and so did many others.lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: you were the one that kept defending me in that kiznaiver game, I never asked for your help lol, don't give me thatlastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: Zymf said: #539 @ironace That is pretty simple reasoning and it's a very typical conclusion to reach. But especially considering your level of experience, it seems very genuine and town-induced, which gives me a town read on you. Ohhh, does it? Does Alberto strike you as new as well? Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. True like I said though i learned my lesson lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: of course u don't because u were the one who thought of that dumb idealastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. hmm? Bitch plz I literally sorted out both the suspects, you both scum read sleipnirr, yet you let him control that entire phase >_>. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:09 PM
#713
Shinichi-Kun said: ... I choked what can I say, I'm only human.lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: you were the one that kept defending me in that kiznaiver game, I never asked for your help lol, don't give me thatlastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: Zymf said: #539 @ironace That is pretty simple reasoning and it's a very typical conclusion to reach. But especially considering your level of experience, it seems very genuine and town-induced, which gives me a town read on you. Ohhh, does it? Does Alberto strike you as new as well? Zymf and Togs both like to use level of experience to justify town reads *that I've noticed, if Alberto is really new, then I can say that his posts are pretty damn wild for being new. Also slightly hard to understand lol. Edit: added the last sentence Edit 2: added *that I've noticed, for clarification Most of us have learned from experience, and I will no longer give people chances or let anyone off the hook for their lack of experience. You made me realize that big time when playing kiznaiver with you, even though you did have some experience from TOS and psycho pass but that scenario was very different. True like I said though i learned my lesson lastwhisper31 said: Shinichi-Kun said: of course u don't because u were the one who thought of that dumb idealastwhisper31 said: @Wen294 You have a somewhat decent counter arguement to Red_Salmons ISO, so let me ask you where do you stand on him. Do you believe he is 100% scum, or just a lazy town, and Im very ok with accidently lynching town for information, but Im not gunna lynch someone that we are 50/50 with, I went through a painful experience in live mafia where everyone was ok with lynching a pretty much confirmed townie for information. @sleipnirr @lastwhisper31 I don't like the idea of using a situation that happened in live mafia as an example, espically since no one here is pretty much confirmed. hmm? Bitch plz I literally sorted out both the suspects, you both scum read sleipnirr, yet you let him control that entire phase >_>. |
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Jul 30, 2017 5:17 PM
#714
Shinichi-Kun said: LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. Im down for that, but why a CT on ace? The dude is legitimately scummy. He sheeped me and my vote on Salmon yesterday without question. Salmon moved up to the gray area between neutral and town for me, but they've still done pretty much jack shit in terms of scumhunting, like, what are their reads? Do they even have any reads? Back to Iron, in his 543, he successfully wifoms over the night-kill, and makes up hypotheticals about my alignment and position in the game without giving an actual read on me for anything specific I've said or done the entire game. Finally, and this is the kicker, he says he wants to see a salmon flip because its informative, yet he doesn't give too much insight into what it would be informative for, WITH the exception of my alignment. He then proceeds to line-up a lynch for me in the event Salmon flips town. Did he ask Salmon any questions to actually utilize the 48 hours we have to figure out people's alignments? No, he didn't. Did he bring anything new to the table as to why Slamon is scum that should be lynched? No, he didn't. Is he still sheeping MY reasons for voting Salmon yesterday? Yes, he is. Is all of this scummy? Yes it is. This is the post for reference: ironace said: ok so ..... I can finally pay more attention to this interesting game So I have been thinking for a while, why was suzune specifically targeted?? Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game. From my pov, wouldnt lucian or gwen or even zymf be better targets?(I will just focus on lucian for now since he was the mos vocal) Was she onto something like gwen said? Ill backread a little and see her posts. But for now, I have a few theories, -suzune was onto something that may have been more important than it seemed and she was quite dangerous. -lucian himself is scum and is directing votes here and there. -or killing lucian would mean that he was onto something and salmon is indeed scum...it can also be the opposite, lucian is far away from the correct reading and the mafia are letting him do as he pleases as it will just hurt town. So for now I think we need a sacrifice. vote:red_salmon If he is indeed scum then the mafia just tried to save him by letting lucian go free. If he is not scum, then I dont mind lynching lucian the next day. As many have noticed, him doing the most work(and apparently doing the most work out of us) is also kinda bad for town. We ourselves arent using our heads as much as lucian is, because he's mostly thinking for us. Dunno why but i feel the game may be more ...dunno the right word...easy?...if lucian becomes less vocal or posts like zymf as then we all will HAVE to start to think for ourselves. |
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Jul 30, 2017 5:21 PM
#715
Shinichi-Kun said: Lel. How do you want me to answer that question then?The_Pyromaani said: ironace said: ok so ..... I can finally pay more attention to this interesting game So I have been thinking for a while, why was suzune specifically targeted?? Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game. From my pov, wouldnt lucian or gwen or even zymf be better targets?(I will just focus on lucian for now since he was the mos vocal) Was she onto something like gwen said? Ill backread a little and see her posts. But for now, I have a few theories, -suzune was onto something that may have been more important than it seemed and she was quite dangerous. -lucian himself is scum and is directing votes here and there. -or killing lucian would mean that he was onto something and salmon is indeed scum...it can also be the opposite, lucian is far away from the correct reading and the mafia are letting him do as he pleases as it will just hurt town. I think easy answer wai suzu was targeted instead you or abu is due to fact she is fearsome and good and is threat to mafia much more than you or abu for example. I have to agree on this also aa-dono said: ironace said: Also, forgot to ask this question to all you guys who have been mafia in previous games.. who is the ideal target to lynch? How does mafia decide to do this? There's more than 1 mafia though, so it's hard to reach a conclusion for who they decide to kill or why. Especially for the first few phases. Not a fan of this statement, already expressed in kiznaiver that i don't like it when people state how they play scum in a game, makes me want to scum read them dueing me thinking they might actually be manipulating the game view by telling us they wouldnt be involved with the actions that are happening. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:21 PM
#716
LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: LucianRoy said: So there are 17 hours left in the phase. Lastwhisper, Gwen, Aa-dono, Wen, Zymf, Shinichi, Sleiph, and myself all should be voting the same person by the end of the phase. The real counter-train is Ironace atm, not Alberto. Im down for that, but why a CT on ace? The dude is legitimately scummy. He sheeped me and my vote on Salmon yesterday without question. Salmon moved up to the gray area between neutral and town for me, but they've still done pretty much jack shit in terms of scumhunting, like, what are their reads? Do they even have any reads? Back to Iron, in his 543, he successfully wifoms over the night-kill, and makes up hypotheticals about my alignment and position in the game without giving an actual read on me for anything specific I've said or done the entire game. Finally, and this is the kicker, he says he wants to see a salmon flip because its informative, yet he doesn't give too much insight into what it would be informative for, WITH the exception of my alignment. He then proceeds to line-up a lynch for me in the event Salmon flips town. Did he ask Salmon any questions to actually utilize the 48 hours we have to figure out people's alignments? No, he didn't. Did he bring anything new to the table as to why Slamon is scum that should be lynched? No, he didn't. Is he still sheeping MY reasons for voting Salmon yesterday? Yes, he is. Is all of this scummy? Yes it is. This is the post for reference: ironace said: ok so ..... I can finally pay more attention to this interesting game So I have been thinking for a while, why was suzune specifically targeted?? Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game. From my pov, wouldnt lucian or gwen or even zymf be better targets?(I will just focus on lucian for now since he was the mos vocal) Was she onto something like gwen said? Ill backread a little and see her posts. But for now, I have a few theories, -suzune was onto something that may have been more important than it seemed and she was quite dangerous. -lucian himself is scum and is directing votes here and there. -or killing lucian would mean that he was onto something and salmon is indeed scum...it can also be the opposite, lucian is far away from the correct reading and the mafia are letting him do as he pleases as it will just hurt town. So for now I think we need a sacrifice. vote:red_salmon If he is indeed scum then the mafia just tried to save him by letting lucian go free. If he is not scum, then I dont mind lynching lucian the next day. As many have noticed, him doing the most work(and apparently doing the most work out of us) is also kinda bad for town. We ourselves arent using our heads as much as lucian is, because he's mostly thinking for us. Dunno why but i feel the game may be more ...dunno the right word...easy?...if lucian becomes less vocal or posts like zymf as then we all will HAVE to start to think for ourselves. Fair Enough I can't see town Iron in this explanation, I was already sketchy of that post because he referred to salmon as a sacrifice. One question though, is this Iron bussing salmon or do you think they're unaligned pairs because this has actually been running through my head for a while now. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:22 PM
#717
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Lel. How do you want me to answer that question then?The_Pyromaani said: ironace said: ok so ..... I can finally pay more attention to this interesting game So I have been thinking for a while, why was suzune specifically targeted?? Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game. From my pov, wouldnt lucian or gwen or even zymf be better targets?(I will just focus on lucian for now since he was the mos vocal) Was she onto something like gwen said? Ill backread a little and see her posts. But for now, I have a few theories, -suzune was onto something that may have been more important than it seemed and she was quite dangerous. -lucian himself is scum and is directing votes here and there. -or killing lucian would mean that he was onto something and salmon is indeed scum...it can also be the opposite, lucian is far away from the correct reading and the mafia are letting him do as he pleases as it will just hurt town. I think easy answer wai suzu was targeted instead you or abu is due to fact she is fearsome and good and is threat to mafia much more than you or abu for example. I have to agree on this also aa-dono said: ironace said: I rarely decide on night kill as scum. Usually just leave it to my buddies. Unless there's confirmed town. Then I'll get everyone to agree on killing confirmed town x)Also, forgot to ask this question to all you guys who have been mafia in previous games.. who is the ideal target to lynch? How does mafia decide to do this? There's more than 1 mafia though, so it's hard to reach a conclusion for who they decide to kill or why. Especially for the first few phases. Not a fan of this statement, already expressed in kiznaiver that i don't like it when people state how they play scum in a game, makes me want to scum read them dueing me thinking they might actually be manipulating the game view by telling us they wouldnt be involved with the actions that are happening. Honestly I'm not really sure lol, i just didn't like your response. |
Jul 30, 2017 5:24 PM
#718
Shinichi-Kun said: Am I the "not be able to make the post count"?Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm even if that was a hosts mistake if I am held accountable for my forgetfulness even you should be. On day 1 its hard to form a powerful case, if this was a normal setup you would have been lynched. Also it depends on the flip flop, if you read someone as town but then scum read them in the next post people are gonna start asking questions. Sure its possible they're scum but 2 of them are known to lurk and the other said she might not be able to make the post count. Who are you talking about? Can you pls mention names? (your answer to salmon) Abu | Togs Aa-dono Sure if you read the post in more detail you would have known that |
Jul 30, 2017 5:30 PM
#719
Shinichi-Kun said: Lucian's post is easy to read. Instead of doing paragraphs, he cut it in sections or something. Point is, it's easier to read them while Wisp's long paragraphs takes energy. I did read it. But halfway through 1st paragraph I have to re-read since I forgot what I was doing. After repeating that several times, I might as well just wait till I'm not tired and have enough energy to digest that post. It's a bad habit, but I could either pretend I've read it, skip it entirely or put a marker on it so that I will read it eventually.aa-dono said: Yay~ I can safely say I've read everything except Wisp's long wall. I'll come back to that later. It hurts my eye just to look at it right now ^^" Why his wall specifically? What about lucians giant post on page 13 which is longer i belieeve? |
Jul 30, 2017 5:31 PM
#720
What inconsistency? --- Shinichi-Kun said: Well if you are often killed night 1 in mafia, you still be alive could be quite supicious so that's why I was curious. bruh, you moderated the morning after, the scum didn't shoot at me for 6 straight nights in a row, and I hammered the last scum correctly D7. It's wifom. --- Shinichi-Kun said: Fair Enough I can't see town Iron in this explanation, I was already sketchy of that post because he referred to salmon as a sacrifice. One question though, is this Iron bussing salmon or do you think they're unaligned pairs because this has actually been running through my head for a while now. There are iron v Salmon interactions? To say the least, it looks like an un-aligned pair judging from the vote itself. Unlike Zymf, I am not giving Iron a free pass, which is probably the worst mistake to make with newer players. |
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Jul 30, 2017 5:34 PM
#721
Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: @LucianRoy, so What I noticed is that Wen seems sure that Abu would flip scum, and that Ironace is very sure that either you or Red will flip mafia, idk where his conclusive evidence that states that you and red cant somehow both be town. I'm more interested in hearing what you think those posts said about their alignments. Which post in particular of Ironace? #578, Honestly Imo, like this is all my opinion, but it seems to me that Wen is trying really hard to get Abu lynched and most if not all posts by abu that Salman Iso'd can easily be seen both way, which makes them pretty nai, so why is he trying to disregard what Salmon believes, is it because he reads abu as scum or he thinks salmon is trying to deflect people from her/his own train. There are so many ways to look at this, and I really cant come to a conclusion on who is coming off scummier. 543 specifically. @Gwendolly, take on this post by last? --- I agree with this pool, all except Wen. --- lastwhisper31 said: Red_Salmon said: ISO on @AbuHumaid D1: #65 "Oh shit it started" #70 "LucianRoy I'm on phone and not caught up, will get to you later" #122 "aight i'm here, so what's the beef?" Nothing telling so far #162 "it's not like I'm lurking on purpose..." But others say that hes not a newby and lurked a lot in his previous games. #167 says he has no reads. asks for my reads #175 generally agrees with most of the people. Doesn't really have his own opinions. Asked for explanation of my reads. #176 "when did i imply otherwise?" agrees that hes played many games before #335 "ouch, why so much hate?" in response to talk of his inactivity #409 "I think we should agree to lynch someone at least 9 hours before phase change" D2: #414 "damn" changes his vote to me. says nothing. Just lazy. #418 tries to defend his sheeping with "there's no better lynch now" #419 asks for explanation of L1 and L2 #423 Defends why he sheeped by saying that any lynch is a good lynch. Showing zero motivation to try to find a person he might think is scummy. I think he doesn't have any reads at all at this point either. #458 I gotta agree with LW here. He used the same words that he used. Generally speaking, imo, his actions don't really say that he's scummy. He just pops in at times, looks at a few posts on that page (and that page alone) says stuff and then leaves. The only thing we can say for sure is that he's lazy. If the reason for voting him is #414 then I must say that his sheep at 414 is nothing out of the ordinary. Hes just being lazy and going with the flow. So this will be my counter analysis, these are kinda what I like doing the most in mafia games. Plus I learned how to link post numbers and I was really exciting to try it out haha. #65 So if we are going to put this quote at the fore front of our arguement, then its only fair to add that this #88 also happened, Im not saying that the usefulness of these two players is the same, I just thought it be something to point out. #70 and #122, He tells Lucian hes out caught up and will get to posting later, but doesnt again show up till #122, and states so whats the beef, which makes it obvious he read it, and instead of coming to his own conclusion on it, he'd rather use someone elses reasoning. Still not the biggest tells ever, can just be seen as laziness. But I like to look at both sides of everything. #162, not gunna link it because I've had the same experience as stated by others, that he def lurks a lot. and I've only ever played one full game with him because he opt'd out of the other game because he was bored. One thing I can say is that he really amped up his game towards the end of the "Morning After Game" #167, again he states he has no reads and asks other people for theirs. Again there is also nothing wrong with this, but there has to be a point where its like, is he really just lazy or just not trying. #175 and #176, again in 175 he states he doesnt have any reads, but wants to know Salmons reads, again it feels like instead of building his own case hes trying to built off the cases of other people, but tbh some people do play like early on, and I am very guilty of this. In 176, he pretty much boils it down to being lack of experience in a previous post, but then makes a snarky comment towards Shin saying thats actually not the case. Again, If its not lack of experience, then why does it feel like hes trying hard to use that as an excuse. #335, not gunna link this one, just gunna state that it seems like abu only quotes posts that question is usefulness and inactivity rather then him giving his 2 cents how he believes the state of the game is and what his reads currently are. #409, He didnt seem at all worried about the lynch day 1, and now he wants to insure there's a lynch day 2 by saying town should come to a consensus at least 9 hours prior to the end of the day 2 cycle. Questions to ask, what happened between day 1 and day 2, to spark this change in direction for him, is it because he really is town and wants to actually get a scum lynched, or because hes hoping town will slip and lynch a townie if he makes this lynch seem urgent. #414, I stated before that many sites, yes ive been reading up on scum tells because im trying to improve, say that posts like this are scum tells. Now I can't put to much lean on that, because I dont know what the percentage of these kinda posts actually being scum are, and pro games probably doesnt happen very much, and the fact that I did this a lot in my early games and I was not scum haha. Now why was he so eager to start the train on Red_Salmon again, after making no previous input about it, Lucian called him out on sheeping when it is most def sheeping, and I know sheeping lmao, because Im guilty of it, which he defends with 418, stating know better choice, where did this conclusion come from, and yet again he only ever seems to answer posts to defend himself, but I am also guilty of that its only fair that I state this because I cant say someone has scum vibes from something they are doing if Im argueing for myself the very same thing and saying im not scum. #419, again asks for explanation of L2 and L1, possible he actually is lazy, but how much is he worth now, am I saying we should lynch him off that, no, because they were admitting we think hes town, and only an idiot would lynch off that, @shinichi-kun ya im talking to you bro..., honestly idk why he would ask this, there have been so very clear explanations of this through out the discussion, scum do tend to miss information, I was told that a lot in the psycho pass game. #423, Uses what I told him to defend his reasoning for lynching Red_Salmon, ok, stepping up his game? or trying to look like hes actively trying? #458, he states hes been doing this and I bring nothing new, am I missing something here??? Big post, maybe ill try doing my own ISO. #Evidence in conclusive, can't evaluate where to place him. Hes everywhere and no where at the same time if that makes any sense lol. Edit:@LucianRoy, I noticed that you wanted my thoughts on Red Salmons ISO, I hope this helps. Gunna try to get to your other questions before I go to work. Idk If ill have time to fully analyze Awa's come back post, but ill try to post my thoughts on Wen before I go. @Gwendolly, what are your thoughts on this post? I'm having a dejavu right now (with Phaze in the Danganronpa game was it?). I think he might have gotten help to write this. Perhaps from you? Because why are you asking me this? Because I voted for him? (I just flipped thru btw I'll be getting into details later) Hmm why are you bringing up the actions of a game that Last wasnt part of to get a read on his alignment? Also care to explain why you think this isnt from my brother, this kind of reply seems similar to his town game in Psycho pass. You should go give that game a read if u werent in it. Because in the end they turned out to be town and it was just their natural behaviour. Like LW already said its just how he is. That's like the only weakness in this game...human mentality/ emotion ...can't.....comprehend...... |
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Jul 30, 2017 6:02 PM
#722
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Am I the "not be able to make the post count"?Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm even if that was a hosts mistake if I am held accountable for my forgetfulness even you should be. On day 1 its hard to form a powerful case, if this was a normal setup you would have been lynched. Also it depends on the flip flop, if you read someone as town but then scum read them in the next post people are gonna start asking questions. Sure its possible they're scum but 2 of them are known to lurk and the other said she might not be able to make the post count. Who are you talking about? Can you pls mention names? (your answer to salmon) Abu | Togs Aa-dono Sure if you read the post in more detail you would have known that Yes lol |
Jul 30, 2017 6:05 PM
#723
Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: The whole of page 8 is a mess. I feel like lucian was nit-picking salmons words in sort of a desperation for a lynch. I really dont see anything strange on salmon right now, I do get where y'all coming from but like I said this is really nit-picking and it may have been legitimate for a first lynch. Interesting that Shinichi and ironace indeed had no doubts on that weak accusation and just simply agreeing with lucian. Do you guys believe you'll get more answers seeing salmon flip than lucian or LW? Albertinos vote looked like a vote of desperation too, so for now he's clear for me too. Pyro just seemed to be straight sheeping lol without even knowing his real reason for voting (#394) #539 @ironace "Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game." Imagine the inactives are indeed scum; the game would be awfully slow and easy to control by them. Should actually avoid that and poke everyone here or they should just die already! Also did you just admit that you'll be inactive in the future too? And I dont see your reasons for voting salmon, if you think Suzune was onto something or even lucian. It seems you are working yourself around them but not getting to the actual problem. aa-dono: Seems to mention stuff that has already been mentioned, but she seems to be analyzing individually and not following others by bringing fresh wind into this case and looking at it from another view. I like what she has to say so far. So neutral. wen: Seems to be staying and pushing on the salmon case #546. #553 yet you think its wasteful going back to him. Has interesting stuff to say but seems more NAI than actual commitment. Haven't read everything what you had to say, so Imma see later. kay I'm stopping on page 12...taking a break xD so far my list and oppinion: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today edit: NAI Man, I thought I was paranoid lol, Lucian and desperate are two things I never expected to see together if they're present he's town. Really so your ok with him being nitpicky but you don't like Lucian doing it? Most if not all reads/accusations will be weak on day 1, doesn't mean they can't be true. Any lynch at this point would provide answers, if lucian is town we would lose a huge asset just to get some answers I don't like those odds. I can't say much on Albert because the way he organizes his posts are very hard to read. Only time a desperation vote should sometimes be a town clear is when you do it to save yourself at EOD. Can't say much about pyro actions cause hes quite experienced. May I ask what is the actual problem you speak of? Also even if they're easy pickings like Iron said I would still lynch them aslong as they aren't like town. I disagree that inactives should just die, because a town can also be inactive. Your little read on dono makes me think you should be town reading her not getting a neutral read. Wen wants us to keep our focus open instead of everyone just being on 1 more which should be a town tell. You should ISO Lucian, so I can see what your seeing. If lucian is town after all, I'd get rid of him asap as mafia or atleast try to form some sort of bias. But I dont see a single case on that; it seems everyone has already sided with him and no one is countering, been a while since we've heared from Sleip too. Dont you find that weird? I did already have that case where scum sacrifices their own buddy in order to clear themselves for the rest of the game. edit: matter of fact: it was you and crossbell xD |
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Jul 30, 2017 6:05 PM
#724
LucianRoy said: What inconsistency? --- Shinichi-Kun said: Well if you are often killed night 1 in mafia, you still be alive could be quite supicious so that's why I was curious. bruh, you moderated the morning after, the scum didn't shoot at me for 6 straight nights in a row, and I hammered the last scum correctly D7. It's wifom. --- Shinichi-Kun said: Fair Enough I can't see town Iron in this explanation, I was already sketchy of that post because he referred to salmon as a sacrifice. One question though, is this Iron bussing salmon or do you think they're unaligned pairs because this has actually been running through my head for a while now. There are iron v Salmon interactions? To say the least, it looks like an un-aligned pair judging from the vote itself. Unlike Zymf, I am not giving Iron a free pass, which is probably the worst mistake to make with newer players. Maybe Inconsistency is the wrong choice of word, I meant his flip flopping. --- I aint talking about that game, I was talking about games where I was on hiatus and the ones you played before you were banned. -- Iron isn't that new tbf this like his 5th game per say. |
Jul 30, 2017 6:08 PM
#725
Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: The whole of page 8 is a mess. I feel like lucian was nit-picking salmons words in sort of a desperation for a lynch. I really dont see anything strange on salmon right now, I do get where y'all coming from but like I said this is really nit-picking and it may have been legitimate for a first lynch. Interesting that Shinichi and ironace indeed had no doubts on that weak accusation and just simply agreeing with lucian. Do you guys believe you'll get more answers seeing salmon flip than lucian or LW? Albertinos vote looked like a vote of desperation too, so for now he's clear for me too. Pyro just seemed to be straight sheeping lol without even knowing his real reason for voting (#394) #539 @ironace "Its safe to say that people like me and abu are easier pickings that can be rid of later in the game.Even inactives are easier targets for later game." Imagine the inactives are indeed scum; the game would be awfully slow and easy to control by them. Should actually avoid that and poke everyone here or they should just die already! Also did you just admit that you'll be inactive in the future too? And I dont see your reasons for voting salmon, if you think Suzune was onto something or even lucian. It seems you are working yourself around them but not getting to the actual problem. aa-dono: Seems to mention stuff that has already been mentioned, but she seems to be analyzing individually and not following others by bringing fresh wind into this case and looking at it from another view. I like what she has to say so far. So neutral. wen: Seems to be staying and pushing on the salmon case #546. #553 yet you think its wasteful going back to him. Has interesting stuff to say but seems more NAI than actual commitment. Haven't read everything what you had to say, so Imma see later. kay I'm stopping on page 12...taking a break xD so far my list and oppinion: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today edit: NAI Man, I thought I was paranoid lol, Lucian and desperate are two things I never expected to see together if they're present he's town. Really so your ok with him being nitpicky but you don't like Lucian doing it? Most if not all reads/accusations will be weak on day 1, doesn't mean they can't be true. Any lynch at this point would provide answers, if lucian is town we would lose a huge asset just to get some answers I don't like those odds. I can't say much on Albert because the way he organizes his posts are very hard to read. Only time a desperation vote should sometimes be a town clear is when you do it to save yourself at EOD. Can't say much about pyro actions cause hes quite experienced. May I ask what is the actual problem you speak of? Also even if they're easy pickings like Iron said I would still lynch them aslong as they aren't like town. I disagree that inactives should just die, because a town can also be inactive. Your little read on dono makes me think you should be town reading her not getting a neutral read. Wen wants us to keep our focus open instead of everyone just being on 1 more which should be a town tell. You should ISO Lucian, so I can see what your seeing. If lucian is town after all, I'd get rid of him asap as mafia or atleast try to form some sort of bias. But I dont see a single case on that; it seems everyone has already sided with him and no one is countering, been a while since we've heared from Sleip too. Dont you find that weird? I did already have that case where scum sacrifices their own buddy in order to clear themselves for the rest of the game. Ya kinda surprised hes not here, he was extremely active on day more active than ive ever seen him. but now hes just gone. As for the Lucian bias thing that happens every game, which is why i aint finding it too unusual. That's bound to happen, like I said an 8 man train is most likely going to have 1 scum or even 2 scum that are willing to bus. |
Jul 30, 2017 6:09 PM
#726
Gwendolly said: Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: LucianRoy said: lastwhisper31 said: @LucianRoy, so What I noticed is that Wen seems sure that Abu would flip scum, and that Ironace is very sure that either you or Red will flip mafia, idk where his conclusive evidence that states that you and red cant somehow both be town. I'm more interested in hearing what you think those posts said about their alignments. Which post in particular of Ironace? #578, Honestly Imo, like this is all my opinion, but it seems to me that Wen is trying really hard to get Abu lynched and most if not all posts by abu that Salman Iso'd can easily be seen both way, which makes them pretty nai, so why is he trying to disregard what Salmon believes, is it because he reads abu as scum or he thinks salmon is trying to deflect people from her/his own train. There are so many ways to look at this, and I really cant come to a conclusion on who is coming off scummier. 543 specifically. @Gwendolly, take on this post by last? --- I agree with this pool, all except Wen. --- lastwhisper31 said: Red_Salmon said: ISO on @AbuHumaid D1: #65 "Oh shit it started" #70 "LucianRoy I'm on phone and not caught up, will get to you later" #122 "aight i'm here, so what's the beef?" Nothing telling so far #162 "it's not like I'm lurking on purpose..." But others say that hes not a newby and lurked a lot in his previous games. #167 says he has no reads. asks for my reads #175 generally agrees with most of the people. Doesn't really have his own opinions. Asked for explanation of my reads. #176 "when did i imply otherwise?" agrees that hes played many games before #335 "ouch, why so much hate?" in response to talk of his inactivity #409 "I think we should agree to lynch someone at least 9 hours before phase change" D2: #414 "damn" changes his vote to me. says nothing. Just lazy. #418 tries to defend his sheeping with "there's no better lynch now" #419 asks for explanation of L1 and L2 #423 Defends why he sheeped by saying that any lynch is a good lynch. Showing zero motivation to try to find a person he might think is scummy. I think he doesn't have any reads at all at this point either. #458 I gotta agree with LW here. He used the same words that he used. Generally speaking, imo, his actions don't really say that he's scummy. He just pops in at times, looks at a few posts on that page (and that page alone) says stuff and then leaves. The only thing we can say for sure is that he's lazy. If the reason for voting him is #414 then I must say that his sheep at 414 is nothing out of the ordinary. Hes just being lazy and going with the flow. So this will be my counter analysis, these are kinda what I like doing the most in mafia games. Plus I learned how to link post numbers and I was really exciting to try it out haha. #65 So if we are going to put this quote at the fore front of our arguement, then its only fair to add that this #88 also happened, Im not saying that the usefulness of these two players is the same, I just thought it be something to point out. #70 and #122, He tells Lucian hes out caught up and will get to posting later, but doesnt again show up till #122, and states so whats the beef, which makes it obvious he read it, and instead of coming to his own conclusion on it, he'd rather use someone elses reasoning. Still not the biggest tells ever, can just be seen as laziness. But I like to look at both sides of everything. #162, not gunna link it because I've had the same experience as stated by others, that he def lurks a lot. and I've only ever played one full game with him because he opt'd out of the other game because he was bored. One thing I can say is that he really amped up his game towards the end of the "Morning After Game" #167, again he states he has no reads and asks other people for theirs. Again there is also nothing wrong with this, but there has to be a point where its like, is he really just lazy or just not trying. #175 and #176, again in 175 he states he doesnt have any reads, but wants to know Salmons reads, again it feels like instead of building his own case hes trying to built off the cases of other people, but tbh some people do play like early on, and I am very guilty of this. In 176, he pretty much boils it down to being lack of experience in a previous post, but then makes a snarky comment towards Shin saying thats actually not the case. Again, If its not lack of experience, then why does it feel like hes trying hard to use that as an excuse. #335, not gunna link this one, just gunna state that it seems like abu only quotes posts that question is usefulness and inactivity rather then him giving his 2 cents how he believes the state of the game is and what his reads currently are. #409, He didnt seem at all worried about the lynch day 1, and now he wants to insure there's a lynch day 2 by saying town should come to a consensus at least 9 hours prior to the end of the day 2 cycle. Questions to ask, what happened between day 1 and day 2, to spark this change in direction for him, is it because he really is town and wants to actually get a scum lynched, or because hes hoping town will slip and lynch a townie if he makes this lynch seem urgent. #414, I stated before that many sites, yes ive been reading up on scum tells because im trying to improve, say that posts like this are scum tells. Now I can't put to much lean on that, because I dont know what the percentage of these kinda posts actually being scum are, and pro games probably doesnt happen very much, and the fact that I did this a lot in my early games and I was not scum haha. Now why was he so eager to start the train on Red_Salmon again, after making no previous input about it, Lucian called him out on sheeping when it is most def sheeping, and I know sheeping lmao, because Im guilty of it, which he defends with 418, stating know better choice, where did this conclusion come from, and yet again he only ever seems to answer posts to defend himself, but I am also guilty of that its only fair that I state this because I cant say someone has scum vibes from something they are doing if Im argueing for myself the very same thing and saying im not scum. #419, again asks for explanation of L2 and L1, possible he actually is lazy, but how much is he worth now, am I saying we should lynch him off that, no, because they were admitting we think hes town, and only an idiot would lynch off that, @shinichi-kun ya im talking to you bro..., honestly idk why he would ask this, there have been so very clear explanations of this through out the discussion, scum do tend to miss information, I was told that a lot in the psycho pass game. #423, Uses what I told him to defend his reasoning for lynching Red_Salmon, ok, stepping up his game? or trying to look like hes actively trying? #458, he states hes been doing this and I bring nothing new, am I missing something here??? Big post, maybe ill try doing my own ISO. #Evidence in conclusive, can't evaluate where to place him. Hes everywhere and no where at the same time if that makes any sense lol. Edit:@LucianRoy, I noticed that you wanted my thoughts on Red Salmons ISO, I hope this helps. Gunna try to get to your other questions before I go to work. Idk If ill have time to fully analyze Awa's come back post, but ill try to post my thoughts on Wen before I go. @Gwendolly, what are your thoughts on this post? I'm having a dejavu right now (with Phaze in the Danganronpa game was it?). I think he might have gotten help to write this. Perhaps from you? Because why are you asking me this? Because I voted for him? (I just flipped thru btw I'll be getting into details later) Hmm why are you bringing up the actions of a game that Last wasnt part of to get a read on his alignment? Also care to explain why you think this isnt from my brother, this kind of reply seems similar to his town game in Psycho pass. You should go give that game a read if u werent in it. Because in the end they turned out to be town and it was just their natural behaviour. Like LW already said its just how he is. That's like the only weakness in this game...human mentality/ emotion ...can't.....comprehend...... YOu do know more, I wasnt in that game I don't think. Ok I understand that part is hard to comphrehend, but what makes you so certain this can't be town Last making those mistakes? |
Jul 30, 2017 6:10 PM
#727
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Lucian's post is easy to read. Instead of doing paragraphs, he cut it in sections or something. Point is, it's easier to read them while Wisp's long paragraphs takes energy. I did read it. But halfway through 1st paragraph I have to re-read since I forgot what I was doing. After repeating that several times, I might as well just wait till I'm not tired and have enough energy to digest that post. It's a bad habit, but I could either pretend I've read it, skip it entirely or put a marker on it so that I will read it eventually.aa-dono said: Yay~ I can safely say I've read everything except Wisp's long wall. I'll come back to that later. It hurts my eye just to look at it right now ^^" Why his wall specifically? What about lucians giant post on page 13 which is longer i belieeve? Both post's are actually spaced/organized quite well so idk what your talking about lmfao. |
Jul 30, 2017 6:16 PM
#728
Gwendolly said: I did already have that case where scum sacrifices their own buddy in order to clear themselves for the rest of the game. @Shinichi-Kun That's also one of my reasons why I never read town. Yes even if I did put aa-dono in my good shoes. Okay, Imma continue with page 13 and 14 now. |
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Jul 30, 2017 6:20 PM
#729
Gwendolly said: Gwendolly said: I did already have that case where scum sacrifices their own buddy in order to clear themselves for the rest of the game. @Shinichi-Kun That's also one of my reasons why I never read town. Yes even if I did put aa-dono in my good shoes. Okay, Imma continue with page 13 and 14 now. Ik its possible haha, ruu and dono literally tried to do it in kiznaiver which is scary because dono is in this game too. |
Jul 30, 2017 6:24 PM
#730
Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: Gwendolly said: I did already have that case where scum sacrifices their own buddy in order to clear themselves for the rest of the game. @Shinichi-Kun That's also one of my reasons why I never read town. Yes even if I did put aa-dono in my good shoes. Okay, Imma continue with page 13 and 14 now. Ik its possible haha, ruu and dono literally tried to do it in kiznaiver which is scary because dono is in this game too. What do you think of dono then? Is she behaving any different? Is there some sort of meta showing from her? |
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Jul 30, 2017 6:43 PM
#731
| 12 hours till phase change and the votes are scattered everywhere smh |
Jul 30, 2017 6:53 PM
#732
AbuHumaid said: 12 hours till phase change and the votes are scattered everywhere smh It's like you're basically begging to get lynched |
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Jul 30, 2017 6:58 PM
#733
Gwendolly said: how?AbuHumaid said: 12 hours till phase change and the votes are scattered everywhere smh It's like you're basically begging to get lynched |
Jul 30, 2017 7:03 PM
#734
| @ Abu, why should we consolidate town votes on the Salmon train? |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:04 PM
#735
AbuHumaid said: Gwendolly said: how?AbuHumaid said: 12 hours till phase change and the votes are scattered everywhere smh It's like you're basically begging to get lynched By not contributing at all but complaining about current situation. |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:06 PM
#736
Red_Salmon said: I'm of the opinion that a scum reveals himself scum more and more as he talks while a town reveals himself town as he talks more and more. Lucian will definitely be a lynch target D3. I'll have more stuff to build up a case on him. With how EoD was progressing my doubts rise. Albert senpai gave a good explanation of it at #480. He's always been giving deep stuff so far (hence I don't understand the train on him). The trail is still warm. Better spit it out now.... Which train on Albert? |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:11 PM
#737
Shinichi-Kun said: I aint talking about that game, I was talking about games where I was on hiatus and the ones you played before you were banned. I can see that, but I'm talking about this game. The point I'm trying to make is that using the info you gain from that question won't be indicative of my alignment, and it looked primarily like a busy-work question with no real aim fmpov. My games then are the same as my games now, I just got better at the game. It takes time for everyone to learn the full meta of current forum mafia. Night kill analysis will always be, wifom. (except in that extremely rare case once in 100 games where it isn't.) A little off topic, but still very relevant since you like my meta so much. How do you think I eventually figured out who the last scum was in The Morning After? How did I lynch correctly the final day in a three person scenario being the only Conf. town? How do you think I got myself to D7 being confirmed town without getting shot? The major part was the PoE I pushed for in the late-game that left me cleared by the dead cop D7, and I could vote for whoever in the 2 town 1 scum situation, with me being confirmed. That's a very rare situation for me, but the fact is, it happened. Scum did not shoot me the entire game. I bring this up because it's a somewhat decent case-study of scum determining who they want to kill, and often times, it's based on other things then just 'hur dur let's shoot all the good town players lmao" Iron isn't that new tbf this like his 5th game per say. What does this say about Zymf then? |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:16 PM
#738
LucianRoy said: it doesn't have to be him, just someone we all agree should be lynched. And everyone here have different opinions, people should drop their ego and sheep other votes that's the only way we could lynch someone, there's no way for 8 people to have the same opinion unless it's sheeping@ Abu, why should we consolidate town votes on the Salmon train? |
Jul 30, 2017 7:21 PM
#739
Gwendolly said: AbuHumaid said: 12 hours till phase change and the votes are scattered everywhere smh It's like you're basically begging to get lynched Thats what I am saying @abuhumaid don't comment on something that your not willing to fix yourself |
Jul 30, 2017 7:25 PM
#740
Shinichi-Kun said: Gwendolly said: LucianRoy said: Gwendolly said: town: suzune neutral: wen, lucian (based on LWs flip), zymf, aa-dono, salmon, suzaku, sleip, albertino slightly scummy: ironace, pyro, abu, lw, shinichi Due to former experiences I never view someone as fully town or scum. I wouldnt mind a lw or lucian lynch today So there are two problems I have with your reads list. 1.) You have no townreads? 2.) You pre-associate my alignment off of Lastwhispers flip?? "neutral: lucian (based on LWs flip)" So what you're doing here is actually a logical gap. By assuming Last will flip scum----> information you shouldn't possess as town---> you're saying our interactions are SvS. You don't scumread me, thus we aren't independent scumreads of yours. Iin reality, in the event Last doesn't flip scum, what does that make our interactions? 1.) Yup, I dont have townreads, I have I-get-back-to-you-later-reads 2.) I'm saying it would be interesting if LW flips scum, not just for you but for others too. But your pre associating his alignment with Lucians which is weird. You have not even explained why you think their alignments are the same. Also are you the female version of Logic lol, just telling people their reasons or actions are stupid? I will tell if one of them are dead :D (watch me die N2) I'll take it as a compliment being the female version of logic |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:25 PM
#741
AbuHumaid said: LucianRoy said: it doesn't have to be him, just someone we all agree should be lynched. And everyone here have different opinions, people should drop their ego and sheep other votes that's the only way we could lynch someone, there's no way for 8 people to have the same opinion unless it's sheeping@ Abu, why should we consolidate town votes on the Salmon train? In that case, you should sheep my vote for Ironace. I think my reasons for finding them scummy are much better than my reasons for finding Salmon scummy ever were. Here they are: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641786&show=700#msg51731608 |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jul 30, 2017 7:28 PM
#742
| Props to all the conversations today, today felt pretty productive in terms of discussions and truly trying to figure shit out. But I feel as yet again, a lot of needed people drop dead, ill probably be on till 2am, and also try to wake up early, because I feel like a lot of the votes are gunna start tmr morning. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jul 30, 2017 7:30 PM
#743
| @Gwendolly @Lastwhisper31 What do you think of my reasoning for an Ironace lych? It can be found here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641786&show=700#msg51731608 |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jul 30, 2017 7:30 PM
#744
AbuHumaid said: LucianRoy said: it doesn't have to be him, just someone we all agree should be lynched. And everyone here have different opinions, people should drop their ego and sheep other votes that's the only way we could lynch someone, there's no way for 8 people to have the same opinion unless it's sheeping@ Abu, why should we consolidate town votes on the Salmon train? What's YOUR oppinion then? Who's your strongest scum read for now? Do you have any? |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:31 PM
#745
| vote: Ironace @Shinichi-Kun @Gwendolly do you guys think we should lynch Ironace or you have better choices? |
Jul 30, 2017 7:32 PM
#746
| Ugh I keep switching from page to page, sorry for not answering chronologically..maybe I should finish reading...toodles! |
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Jul 30, 2017 7:34 PM
#747
LucianRoy said: @Gwendolly @Lastwhisper31 What do you think of my reasoning for an Ironace lych? It can be found here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641786&show=700#msg51731608 Ill def get back to you on that, I wanna reread and maybe reply to some of the posts I was unable to reply to at work. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jul 30, 2017 7:36 PM
#748
aa-dono said: SuzakuTsubasa said: Because he already explained his townread on Lucian here.Why do you ask about his townlean on Wisp but not about his lean on Lucian? I just realized he gave reasons for Wisp's there. Missed it before. Ya but Togs always town leans me after 5 or so posts lmao. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jul 30, 2017 7:39 PM
#749
| So @LucianRoy, I told you I would tell you what I thought of aa-dono's post, but I can not for the life of me find it... any chance you can link it to me? |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
Jul 30, 2017 7:43 PM
#750
lastwhisper31 said: So @LucianRoy, I told you I would tell you what I thought of aa-dono's post, but I can not for the life of me find it... any chance you can link it to me? Their big catch-up post for the game page 11. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1641786&show=500#msg51721926 |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
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