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Apr 24, 2017 9:36 AM
#2201
Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Depending on how each person looks at a player there is prob a common ground when it comes to their alignment. 1. Logic340 Behavioraly he is both emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role claim yet 2. Grapefruit21 Behaviorally he both Emotionally he is town Actions he is town No claim 4. Ruu Behaviorally she is scum Emotionally she is town Actions she is scum Claim=Miller which can be a scum claim 5. Aa-dono Behaviorally she is both Emotionally she is town Actions she is scummy no claim 7. Lamby Behavoirally he is scum Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role=Astectic modifier it can be either or. 8. Jackrito Behaviorially he is both Emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role 9. Grrr Behaviorially he is scummy Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role claim=nurse he is town unless there is a scum aligned doctor 11. Karote Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is scum role claim=Transporter never heard of this being a scum aligned role 12. Penta Behaviorally he is town Emotionally he is town Actions he could be both No role claim 14. Coelestin Behaviorally she is both emotionally she is town Actions she is both No role claim 15. Qoco Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Red=scummy Green=Town Orange=can be viewed as both I will try connecting people once i get a chance some colors might be messed up On the Karote bit of this it can be a scum role because you can avoid town ablities like cop by swapping yourself with a town and you can make a town appear scum as well. That is one possible way you do it. Ik that but the thing is i dont think their is an actual scum role similar to that, when u think transporter your town, so for him to think that out of a scummy role it must be similar but i cant find a role thats similar that is scum aligned. My sentence structure is terrible but do u get what im saying? |
Apr 24, 2017 9:38 AM
#2202
Apr 24, 2017 9:38 AM
#2203
Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: I went to sleep last night and then was in school whole time, I was using school wifi so I could read posts but couldn't post anything due them blocking social and whatnot. My actual role name is Bus Driver but I thought that didn't make sense so I wanted that exact role name to make it easier for others recognise what I was but okay, I shouldn't have done that, Hider came in mind and in rush when there were few minutes for lynch then I wrote that but I remembered later that Transporter made more sense. I feel stupid for doing that and wouldn't be suprised if I got lynched, so that's that. This makes no sense during the night phase you said the role was closer to hider then transporter. Also I want to know what it does since so far all roles in here have been normal in name I never said it was closer to hider than transporter. And I have never heard of a role called Bus Driver but I guess host took them from epicmafia. You still never said what it does how did you answer start and end but not middle |
Apr 24, 2017 9:38 AM
#2204
| Also @Karote if you weren't sure about your role when you first read it why didn't you look it up incase you ever needed to know how it worked? |
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Apr 24, 2017 9:39 AM
#2205
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Depending on how each person looks at a player there is prob a common ground when it comes to their alignment. 1. Logic340 Behavioraly he is both emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role claim yet 2. Grapefruit21 Behaviorally he both Emotionally he is town Actions he is town No claim 4. Ruu Behaviorally she is scum Emotionally she is town Actions she is scum Claim=Miller which can be a scum claim 5. Aa-dono Behaviorally she is both Emotionally she is town Actions she is scummy no claim 7. Lamby Behavoirally he is scum Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role=Astectic modifier it can be either or. 8. Jackrito Behaviorially he is both Emotionally he is scum Actions he is town No role 9. Grrr Behaviorially he is scummy Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Role claim=nurse he is town unless there is a scum aligned doctor 11. Karote Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is scum role claim=Transporter never heard of this being a scum aligned role 12. Penta Behaviorally he is town Emotionally he is town Actions he could be both No role claim 14. Coelestin Behaviorally she is both emotionally she is town Actions she is both No role claim 15. Qoco Behaviorally he is both Emotionally he is town Actions he is both Red=scummy Green=Town Orange=can be viewed as both I will try connecting people once i get a chance some colors might be messed up On the Karote bit of this it can be a scum role because you can avoid town ablities like cop by swapping yourself with a town and you can make a town appear scum as well. That is one possible way you do it. Ik that but the thing is i dont think their is an actual scum role similar to that, when u think transporter your town, so for him to think that out of a scummy role it must be similar but i cant find a role thats similar that is scum aligned. My sentence structure is terrible but do u get what im saying? I think Claire had a similar role in pirate game swapped self with town to mess with cops |
Apr 24, 2017 9:41 AM
#2206
Shinichi-Kun said: Well considering he says he picked Denja and dono it seems your idea has been put to rest already so my point still stands he gets to choose two targets like he said. He chose Jack and left out his second target which was himself? What is the purpose of leaving our this information as town? Stop letting yourself be manipulated and actually look at why people are withholding information. You guys did the same thing with Qoco lying on D1. What does lying help town and when they are caught why aren't we doing anything about it?logic340 said: Karote said: I used my ability on Jack btw. (First Night) If someone can reconcile how he made this mistake? Though at this point it seems very unlikely to me. Not true tho there are some cases with you can only pick 1 target because ur always the first target. Which mean he picked jack on night 1 swapping with him. |
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Apr 24, 2017 9:43 AM
#2207
| @jackrito As an anti-Town power role, Bus Driver is rather potent. By redirecting up to two power roles per Night, they can neutralize a lot of Town power at once - if not manipulate their actions so that they actually help scum. An anti-Town Bus Driver that can self-target is very nearly immune to all Night actions. This line is concering tho |
Apr 24, 2017 9:45 AM
#2208
| I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. |
Apr 24, 2017 9:46 AM
#2209
grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Or u were always the doctor lol also the converter died, 2 converters in a game like this is way to broken. |
Apr 24, 2017 9:46 AM
#2210
Shinichi-Kun said: @jackrito As an anti-Town power role, Bus Driver is rather potent. By redirecting up to two power roles per Night, they can neutralize a lot of Town power at once - if not manipulate their actions so that they actually help scum. An anti-Town Bus Driver that can self-target is very nearly immune to all Night actions. This line is concering tho Yeah I agree. I need to take a step back though the bombardment of questions by me to them is a bit much. |
Apr 24, 2017 9:47 AM
#2211
grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. I don't even know what to make of this. |
Apr 24, 2017 9:49 AM
#2212
Shinichi-Kun said: grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Or u were always the doctor lol also the converter died, 2 converters in a game like this is way to broken. If that was the case I could just say "I am a doctor now. I lied being a nurse" but why would I do that. Either what I am saying is true, or I am mafia trying to trick you somehow. Well there is an option me lying about everything and being some useless town role, trying to get attention : D. |
Apr 24, 2017 9:50 AM
#2213
grrr said: Shinichi-Kun said: grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Or u were always the doctor lol also the converter died, 2 converters in a game like this is way to broken. If that was the case I could just say "I am a doctor now. I lied being a nurse" but why would I do that. Either what I am saying is true, or I am mafia trying to trick you somehow. Well there is an option me lying about everything and being some useless town role, trying to get attention : D. Never said u were scum i just dont understand this post lol |
Apr 24, 2017 9:50 AM
#2214
grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Ok why would you reveal this now. Why would they fake the message and it does not match the role hint if this is true. Also if doc was somehow converted I think a nurse would not become doc could be wrong. I also want you to explain the people you said better |
Apr 24, 2017 9:53 AM
#2215
grrr said: I was waiting for you to say this. I think I know how you became a Dr. and I if I am right then Rosie because a full cop after night 1.I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. you guys can take this as a soft claim if you like. |
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Apr 24, 2017 9:53 AM
#2216
Shinichi-Kun said: I do though :Dgrrr said: Shinichi-Kun said: grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Or u were always the doctor lol also the converter died, 2 converters in a game like this is way to broken. If that was the case I could just say "I am a doctor now. I lied being a nurse" but why would I do that. Either what I am saying is true, or I am mafia trying to trick you somehow. Well there is an option me lying about everything and being some useless town role, trying to get attention : D. Never said u were scum i just dont understand this post lol |
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Apr 24, 2017 9:54 AM
#2217
| @grrr did your role have similar text to Rosie's role? Were there conditions that needed to be met before you would become a full Dr.? |
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Apr 24, 2017 9:55 AM
#2218
Jackrito said: grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. Ok why would you reveal this now. Why would they fake the message and it does not match the role hint if this is true. Also if doc was somehow converted I think a nurse would not become doc could be wrong. I also want you to explain the people you said better I answered why I reveal this now but let me repeat my self. There is a good chance that mafia knows I am a doctor. if that is so I have no reason to not let town know too. Of course if mafia doesn't know this, then I would prefer to keep it for me but given the risks in both cases I think sharing it is better. Jackrito said: I also want you to explain the people you said better If you do then try voting me. If I have many votes on me I will have no choice but to cooperate. Vote: pentaflare |
Apr 24, 2017 10:00 AM
#2219
logic340 said: grrr said: I was waiting for you to say this. I think I know how you became a Dr. and I if I am right then Rosie because a full cop after night 1.I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. you guys can take this as a soft claim if you like. guess this explains why i thought rosie soft claim was a full blwon cop and not just a depity |
Apr 24, 2017 10:00 AM
#2220
logic340 said: @grrr did your role have similar text to Rosie's role? Were there conditions that needed to be met before you would become a full Dr.? The first question: I wont answer. I think this would be somewhat abuse around the not quoting rule if I answer. To the second questions: no I didn't have any conditions listed. |
Apr 24, 2017 10:05 AM
#2221
Shinichi-Kun said: It very well could be and popped into my mind after I saw Rosie's flip considering what I did N1.logic340 said: grrr said: I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. you guys can take this as a soft claim if you like. guess this explains why i thought rosie soft claim was a full blwon cop and not just a depity |
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Apr 24, 2017 10:09 AM
#2222
grrr said: So were you notified at the start of this phase that you were prompted to a Dr?logic340 said: @grrr did your role have similar text to Rosie's role? Were there conditions that needed to be met before you would become a full Dr.? The first question: I wont answer. I think this would be somewhat abuse around the not quoting rule if I answer. To the second questions: no I didn't have any conditions listed. 1. Fair enough 2. I didn't mean conditions that you knew, was referring to conditions like as in Rosie's role PM. It's all good though because I have a few thoughts and I think this makes me feel ok with you being town. |
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Apr 24, 2017 10:21 AM
#2223
| This game is hard for me. Everyone seemed to be doing their job well and it is hard to find faults in their actions. I will instead work on some strategies that we can do to fight this through mechanically. So since NAR is confirmed, we can test Karote's role by jailing (if any) or vig shot. He will be unaffected by roleblock since his action should go through first. What I believe this set-up was meant to be interactive, meaning that there are roles that have certain conditions to meet to make their role work. In this case, we have Rosie as a deputy. We also have an Inheritor which is a back-up. My role also has certain conditions too. Karote seemed to be implying that his role could work as a Hider at certain conditions. Even grrr mentioned about being a nurse which I thought that he might be like a similar Deputy role like Rosie. So all we have to do is to make synergy among town roles. I have yet to meet my own condition. |
Apr 24, 2017 10:21 AM
#2224
Vote Count 3.2 Qoco: DenjaX, Logic340 Karote: Grapefruit21, Jackrito Logic340:Qoco AA-Dono: Pentaflare, Coelestin Coelestin: aa-dono Jackrito: Shinichi-Kun Pentaflare: Grrr Not Voting: Abuhumaid, Karote What has already transpired Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12 || 1.13 || 1.14 || 1.15 Night one Day 2 || Vote Count 2.0 || 2.1 || 2.2 || 2.3 || 2.4 || 2.5 || 2.6 || 2.7 || 2.8 || 2.9 || 2.10 || 2.11 Night 2 Day 3 || Vote Count 3.0 || 3.1 || 3.2 |
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Apr 24, 2017 10:42 AM
#2225
DenjaX said: Depending on your role I might could help you with that tonight. I believe I am the key to unlocking other roles potentials.This game is hard for me. Everyone seemed to be doing their job well and it is hard to find faults in their actions. I will instead work on some strategies that we can do to fight this through mechanically. So since NAR is confirmed, we can test Karote's role by jailing (if any) or vig shot. He will be unaffected by roleblock since his action should go through first. What I believe this set-up was meant to be interactive, meaning that there are roles that have certain conditions to meet to make their role work. In this case, we have Rosie as a deputy. We also have an Inheritor which is a back-up. My role also has certain conditions too. Karote seemed to be implying that his role could work as a Hider at certain conditions. Even grrr mentioned about being a nurse which I thought that he might be like a similar Deputy role like Rosie. So all we have to do is to make synergy among town roles. I have yet to meet my own condition. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 |
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Apr 24, 2017 10:45 AM
#2226
| @SoulEaterQUEEN Karote is missing from the list of not voting players. |
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Apr 24, 2017 10:50 AM
#2227
Fixed, thank you for letting me know -- sorry for not catching it earlier! |
Apr 24, 2017 10:51 AM
#2228
| It's all good thank you for your time and effort. |
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Apr 24, 2017 11:03 AM
#2229
logic340 said: DenjaX said: Depending on your role I might could help you with that tonight. I believe I am the key to unlocking other roles potentials.This game is hard for me. Everyone seemed to be doing their job well and it is hard to find faults in their actions. I will instead work on some strategies that we can do to fight this through mechanically. So since NAR is confirmed, we can test Karote's role by jailing (if any) or vig shot. He will be unaffected by roleblock since his action should go through first. What I believe this set-up was meant to be interactive, meaning that there are roles that have certain conditions to meet to make their role work. In this case, we have Rosie as a deputy. We also have an Inheritor which is a back-up. My role also has certain conditions too. Karote seemed to be implying that his role could work as a Hider at certain conditions. Even grrr mentioned about being a nurse which I thought that he might be like a similar Deputy role like Rosie. So all we have to do is to make synergy among town roles. I have yet to meet my own condition. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 im assuming ur role is similar to a role chris used in his favorites mafia |
Apr 24, 2017 11:03 AM
#2230
| I was about to sleep and remember that I said I'll get back to this. PentaFlare said: @aa-dono You mentioned not finding Chi to be looking at motive for player's actions. Can you find me an example of a read she has made where she doesn't do this? So this requires me to go back and dig posts, which I absolutely don't want to right now. You can see it as scummy, or you don't. I can't defend my lack of effort right now. Anyway, the post was made mainly because of how she sees my post. She mentioned repeatedly that I have no town actions at all. I can understand seeing my posts as scummy. There are times that I do that on purpose. Or times I don't do it on purpose, but deemed scummy anyway. But I refuse to believe that she sees none of my action as town driven. When she mentioned it first time, I wasn't bothered since there were always people who sees scum in everything I do. But she stand by her early reads still saying that I had no town action just raised another alarm to me since 1. Even if I am scum, I'm not that bad of a scum to have no town action 2. Being called out for my non-usual way of looking for scum is usually something that scum does, especially when it's repeated. 3. Usually when she changes her mind, it's when others brings up a lot of points about it. Hope that answers. I think I've gone tunnelling now,... so hmmm... tell me why she's town. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:05 AM
#2231
logic340 said: You already know which way I voted. And no, wasn't painting you in a bad light. Was just stating facts.aa-dono said: IDK reading what you said about me feels like it's being looked at in a negative light but I guess it could just be you stating facts.logic340 said: aa-dono said: Since he lied/mistake his role PM, I'm not really sure where to place him, but I don't think the votes on Jack is suspicious. Qoco had been showing his disagreement with Jack since few hours before phase change if I recall it right. I think Shinichi's vote is justified. Well, I don't expect people to believe my vote, but I think it's justified. And Carrot wants to save himself. This however: Karote: Coelestin, Grapefruit21, logic340, Jackrito stayed even after Carrot's claim. Grape wasn't around so that's ok, maybe. Jack, similar to Carrot, it wasn't wise of him to remove his vote. logic seems biasedly townreading Jack and protective of him regardless. Plus, he didn't believe the claim. So Coel's vote is a lot more suspicious imo. Do you townread Jack that much to protect him? Or scumread Karote a lot? I could see the vote on Jack as a self preservation vote, but agreeing with Qoco's reasoning (which I find unjustified) doesn't help his case any. Logic's strongest town read was almost lynched in the last 30 mionutes on one of the weakest cases to date in this game. Qoco's case had been destroyed well before anyone else voted for such petty reasons and anyone who voted for Qoco's reasons should be under heavy scrutiny right now. Damn right Logic tried to save his town read of his scum read. Damn right with less than 5 minutes until phase change I found Karoe's claim to be questionable. His claim came at 8:57 (3 minutes before phase change. Do you really feel that in 3 minutes it's enough time to digest that claim and move a vote to a reasonable place? I think what you are saying about me is unreasonable given the amount of time I had to make a choice. "logic seems biasedly townreading Jack and protective of him regardless. Plus, he didn't believe the claim." My top town read and a scum read since D1. I even said i would do an ISO to show my read if people didn't believe me (while you refuse to do one to support your vote)? Which way would you have voted if it was you? Karote's claim with 3 minutes until the phase change (fumbled or lied) I didn't have time to digest the claim (never heard of the role before so I had questions) let alone believe it before he came forward switching his claim to transporter. If I was showing my distrust, I would use the word "I don't trust you" or something clear. Same goes if I scumread. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:08 AM
#2232
logic340 said: Stop spinning my words.aa-dono said: I've know my role since D1 if I get in a claim situation I am surely not going to fumble it like that and claim a role that isn't mine. Also in every game I have played i have known my role and how to claim it if needed. I don't see an experienced player like Karote fumbling their role like that. If anything it was a blatant lie because he felt transporter wouldn't move the votes. Not sure how that would even happen on D2 when one of the first things you should do is verify your role? Are you telling me that Karoe though he was hider form D1 and thought he hid behind Jack instead of swapping their roles. Grapefruit21 said: aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: Nope.Okay Coelestin did post between Karote's claim and EoD. It was in defense of Jack which seems reasonable to me. That vote seems at least as justified as logic's @aa-dono. Do you have more backing your Coelestin vote? Why do you see the defense reasonable? Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? Idk really, I don't get the logic townvibe in this game, but I don't see any inconsistencies too. If Karote's scum, then that would clear logic. Not so much Jack though since I can see Jack bussing Karote. But still, they're both likely town if Carrot's scum. But if Carrot's town, I'll probably pull a guilty card on logic. That anger seems unjustified since town could make any mistake during panic. He could be mad, but I find it likelier than it was scum!logic being mad because he couldn't comprehend why no one sees his view on why Carrot's scum despite all the scummy behaviour. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:09 AM
#2233
logic340 said: Are you now? Kinda skeptic right now because that would mean town's potential revolves around you. But then again there is an Inheritor just in case you die that early but still would have hindered town a lot if you die Night 1 given that Shinichi inherited Lucian's ability already. Depending on your role I might could help you with that tonight. I believe I am the key to unlocking other roles potentials. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 Also, I don't think your "ability" would affect me so it must be a different condition. But ehh, you are free to do what you like. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:10 AM
#2234
Shinichi-Kun said: This one too ==aa-dono said: Coelestin said: Vote: aa-dono This scummy behavior lasting for two days isn't coincidence anymore. I've waited too long to place this vote, should've done it sooner. Your talk seems all nice but I still haven't seen noteworthy scum hunting actions that would make me wanna town read you. The pool of people you actually suspect is unnaturally narrow. I've had enough, you're too scummy. You may have been able to talk yourself out of stuff but actions speak louder than words. It's already unbelievable that you've gotten away without having a train on you yesterday but Penta and I are onto you today. @aa-dono The Carrot claim doesn't sound fishy to you? I will only be willing to lynch aa-dono or Carrot today unless something else should give me heavy doubts. One of them is surely scum. Jack and Penta are 100% town. If these statements aren't true then I'll never trust my great scum hunting record again. At that time nope. The Transporter claim, yes. If Carrot flips scum, I guess you can trust your scum hunting record. But then again, it's a record. Past collections. Do u really consider hider and transporter similar enough to confuse the roles? I said I trusted the Hider claim at the time. I don't believe his new claim since fumbling (borrowing logic's word) just doesn't feel believable. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:12 AM
#2235
Shinichi-Kun said: When did I ever said that? What about Carrot?aa-dono said: I don't really need to know why you're townreading Jack and Penta. And your other scumread is Carrot, that I don't particularly care about being lynched. So I'll reserve until later and look into someone else. U dont think penta's involvement in the tieing is town motivated? Karote must care he claimed and he almost never claims |
Apr 24, 2017 11:14 AM
#2236
Shinichi-Kun said: I'll wait for Qoco to answer this before I say anything else.aa-dono said: Eiii~ Karote's claim was scummy, but I can't relate it to his behaviour. I can see him trying to get reads in Day 2. But anyway, @Grapefruit21 why would you place Abu on a higher priority than Karote? @Qoco & @Shinichi-Kun funny little question. But a serious one. Did you read the roles in the rules/setup post? ya why whats up? |
Apr 24, 2017 11:15 AM
#2237
aa-dono said: I was about to sleep and remember that I said I'll get back to this. PentaFlare said: @aa-dono You mentioned not finding Chi to be looking at motive for player's actions. Can you find me an example of a read she has made where she doesn't do this? So this requires me to go back and dig posts, which I absolutely don't want to right now. You can see it as scummy, or you don't. I can't defend my lack of effort right now. Anyway, the post was made mainly because of how she sees my post. She mentioned repeatedly that I have no town actions at all. I can understand seeing my posts as scummy. There are times that I do that on purpose. Or times I don't do it on purpose, but deemed scummy anyway. But I refuse to believe that she sees none of my action as town driven. When she mentioned it first time, I wasn't bothered since there were always people who sees scum in everything I do. But she stand by her early reads still saying that I had no town action just raised another alarm to me since 1. Even if I am scum, I'm not that bad of a scum to have no town action 2. Being called out for my non-usual way of looking for scum is usually something that scum does, especially when it's repeated. 3. Usually when she changes her mind, it's when others brings up a lot of points about it. Hope that answers. I think I've gone tunnelling now,... so hmmm... tell me why she's town. I don't want to tell you why I think she is town. On day 1, you already took my reasoning for a read on Jack as your own and I'm worried you are just trying to get me to feed you a read again. Until you've put in the effort to look at her past posts, I don't want to do it for you. You need to be able to think for yourself. |
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Apr 24, 2017 11:15 AM
#2238
grrr said: Why Penta and logic?I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:17 AM
#2239
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: It very well could be and popped into my mind after I saw Rosie's flip considering what I did N1.logic340 said: grrr said: I was waiting for you to say this. I think I know how you became a Dr. and I if I am right then Rosie because a full cop after night 1.I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. you guys can take this as a soft claim if you like. guess this explains why i thought rosie soft claim was a full blwon cop and not just a depity the biggest question is does ur ability effect scum roles |
Apr 24, 2017 11:18 AM
#2240
Shinichi-Kun said: No I do not think it is what you are thinking of.logic340 said: DenjaX said: This game is hard for me. Everyone seemed to be doing their job well and it is hard to find faults in their actions. I will instead work on some strategies that we can do to fight this through mechanically. So since NAR is confirmed, we can test Karote's role by jailing (if any) or vig shot. He will be unaffected by roleblock since his action should go through first. What I believe this set-up was meant to be interactive, meaning that there are roles that have certain conditions to meet to make their role work. In this case, we have Rosie as a deputy. We also have an Inheritor which is a back-up. My role also has certain conditions too. Karote seemed to be implying that his role could work as a Hider at certain conditions. Even grrr mentioned about being a nurse which I thought that he might be like a similar Deputy role like Rosie. So all we have to do is to make synergy among town roles. I have yet to meet my own condition. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 im assuming ur role is similar to a role chris used in his favorites mafia DenjaX said: Well I am not 10% sure just a though I had based on some information I have now due to Rosie's flip and grrr's proclamation. logic340 said: Are you now? Kinda skeptic right now because that would mean town's potential revolves around you. But then again there is an Inheritor just in case you die that early but still would have hindered town a lot if you die Night 1 given that Shinichi inherited Lucian's ability already. Depending on your role I might could help you with that tonight. I believe I am the key to unlocking other roles potentials. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 Also, I don't think your "ability" would affect me so it must be a different condition. But ehh, you are free to do what you like. aa-dono said: What words did I flip here? I was explaining why I don't trust the claim from Karote not sure how you felt this was me spinning your words? Can you elaborate or explain for me?logic340 said: Stop spinning my words.aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: He tunnels. And it NAI for me.aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: Nope.Okay Coelestin did post between Karote's claim and EoD. It was in defense of Jack which seems reasonable to me. That vote seems at least as justified as logic's @aa-dono. Do you have more backing your Coelestin vote? Why do you see the defense reasonable? Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? Idk really, I don't get the logic townvibe in this game, but I don't see any inconsistencies too. If Karote's scum, then that would clear logic. Not so much Jack though since I can see Jack bussing Karote. But still, they're both likely town if Carrot's scum. But if Carrot's town, I'll probably pull a guilty card on logic. That anger seems unjustified since town could make any mistake during panic. He could be mad, but I find it likelier than it was scum!logic being mad because he couldn't comprehend why no one sees his view on why Carrot's scum despite all the scummy behaviour. |
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Apr 24, 2017 11:18 AM
#2241
PentaFlare said: Huh?On day 1, you already took my reasoning for a read on Jack as your own and I'm worried you are just trying to get me to feed you a read again. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:20 AM
#2242
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: When did I ever said that? What about Carrot?aa-dono said: I don't really need to know why you're townreading Jack and Penta. And your other scumread is Carrot, that I don't particularly care about being lynched. So I'll reserve until later and look into someone else. U dont think penta's involvement in the tieing is town motivated? Karote must care he claimed and he almost never claims Well thats one of the reasons i town read penta so im asssuming if ur questioning reads u must not like his tie vote. Oh ur saying he doesnt care but he must have cared about the pressure he role claimed. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:20 AM
#2243
aa-dono said: PentaFlare said: Huh?On day 1, you already took my reasoning for a read on Jack as your own and I'm worried you are just trying to get me to feed you a read again. I tried discussing a read on Jack with you to get you more engaged, but you just looked at my reasoning and said you couldn't see anything to add or change. |
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Apr 24, 2017 11:21 AM
#2244
aa-dono said: logic340 said: Stop spinning my words.aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: He tunnels. And it NAI for me.aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: Nope.Okay Coelestin did post between Karote's claim and EoD. It was in defense of Jack which seems reasonable to me. That vote seems at least as justified as logic's @aa-dono. Do you have more backing your Coelestin vote? Why do you see the defense reasonable? Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? Idk really, I don't get the logic townvibe in this game, but I don't see any inconsistencies too. If Karote's scum, then that would clear logic. Not so much Jack though since I can see Jack bussing Karote. But still, they're both likely town if Carrot's scum. But if Carrot's town, I'll probably pull a guilty card on logic. That anger seems unjustified since town could make any mistake during panic. He could be mad, but I find it likelier than it was scum!logic being mad because he couldn't comprehend why no one sees his view on why Carrot's scum despite all the scummy behaviour. Tbf i would have just claimed universal back up if i hadnt already realized through the day 1 phase change that my role was considered an inheritor. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:21 AM
#2245
logic340 said: "Are you telling me that Karoe though he was hider form D1 and thought he hid behind Jack instead of swapping their roles." <- when did I even suggest this?aa-dono said: What words did I flip here? I was explaining why I don't trust the claim from Karote not sure how you felt this was me spinning your words? Can you elaborate or explain for me?logic340 said: aa-dono said: I've know my role since D1 if I get in a claim situation I am surely not going to fumble it like that and claim a role that isn't mine. Also in every game I have played i have known my role and how to claim it if needed. I don't see an experienced player like Karote fumbling their role like that. If anything it was a blatant lie because he felt transporter wouldn't move the votes. Not sure how that would even happen on D2 when one of the first things you should do is verify your role? Are you telling me that Karoe though he was hider form D1 and thought he hid behind Jack instead of swapping their roles. Grapefruit21 said: He tunnels. And it NAI for me.aa-dono said: Grapefruit21 said: Nope.Okay Coelestin did post between Karote's claim and EoD. It was in defense of Jack which seems reasonable to me. That vote seems at least as justified as logic's @aa-dono. Do you have more backing your Coelestin vote? Why do you see the defense reasonable? Because I've had a biased town read on Coel for a while now that I need to reevalutate. Why do you find logic's reasonable? Idk really, I don't get the logic townvibe in this game, but I don't see any inconsistencies too. If Karote's scum, then that would clear logic. Not so much Jack though since I can see Jack bussing Karote. But still, they're both likely town if Carrot's scum. But if Carrot's town, I'll probably pull a guilty card on logic. That anger seems unjustified since town could make any mistake during panic. He could be mad, but I find it likelier than it was scum!logic being mad because he couldn't comprehend why no one sees his view on why Carrot's scum despite all the scummy behaviour. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:23 AM
#2246
Shinichi-Kun said: It's not a manipulative ability if that is what you are wondering. I have done certain things and other things have happen in response to them. Lets see if this helps clear anything up basically I don't think there was a full a cop or full a dr in this game from the beginning. logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: grrr said: I was waiting for you to say this. I think I know how you became a Dr. and I if I am right then Rosie because a full cop after night 1.I was planning to keep it for me but I assume the mafia is likely to know this so: I am a doctor now. Given that Rosie is not a doctor I believe our precious doctor was converted. It is possible that the rosie death message is fake. Or who knows what. Well in any case I die tonight. Here is my will: Shinichi and chione are town. There is no point wasting time in them. Grapefruit, aa-dono, penta and logic need pressure. Farewell and good luck. you guys can take this as a soft claim if you like. guess this explains why i thought rosie soft claim was a full blwon cop and not just a depity the biggest question is does ur ability effect scum roles |
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Apr 24, 2017 11:24 AM
#2247
PentaFlare said: aa-dono said: I was about to sleep and remember that I said I'll get back to this. PentaFlare said: @aa-dono You mentioned not finding Chi to be looking at motive for player's actions. Can you find me an example of a read she has made where she doesn't do this? So this requires me to go back and dig posts, which I absolutely don't want to right now. You can see it as scummy, or you don't. I can't defend my lack of effort right now. Anyway, the post was made mainly because of how she sees my post. She mentioned repeatedly that I have no town actions at all. I can understand seeing my posts as scummy. There are times that I do that on purpose. Or times I don't do it on purpose, but deemed scummy anyway. But I refuse to believe that she sees none of my action as town driven. When she mentioned it first time, I wasn't bothered since there were always people who sees scum in everything I do. But she stand by her early reads still saying that I had no town action just raised another alarm to me since 1. Even if I am scum, I'm not that bad of a scum to have no town action 2. Being called out for my non-usual way of looking for scum is usually something that scum does, especially when it's repeated. 3. Usually when she changes her mind, it's when others brings up a lot of points about it. Hope that answers. I think I've gone tunnelling now,... so hmmm... tell me why she's town. I don't want to tell you why I think she is town. On day 1, you already took my reasoning for a read on Jack as your own and I'm worried you are just trying to get me to feed you a read again. Until you've put in the effort to look at her past posts, I don't want to do it for you. You need to be able to think for yourself. This is weird coming from you, if i still didnt trust your actions previously i would have found this entire statement off. Cause from reading donos post alone it makes me wanna scum read chione, regardless if she gets facts because i've been reading the thread I know that chione has said stuff like how dono depicted it so unless your faining ignorance their should be no need to her to go grab posts for examples. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:24 AM
#2248
Shinichi-Kun said: No. I said I don't need to know why she (Coel) townread Jack and Penta. Because she explained. And she doesn't need to explain things twice. I don't disagree on that read.aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: I don't really need to know why you're townreading Jack and Penta. And your other scumread is Carrot, that I don't particularly care about being lynched. So I'll reserve until later and look into someone else. U dont think penta's involvement in the tieing is town motivated? Karote must care he claimed and he almost never claims Well thats one of the reasons i town read penta so im asssuming if ur questioning reads u must not like his tie vote. Oh ur saying he doesnt care but he must have cared about the pressure he role claimed. And her next scumread besides me is Karote, which similar to above, I don't disagree. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:25 AM
#2249
DenjaX said: logic340 said: Are you now? Kinda skeptic right now because that would mean town's potential revolves around you. But then again there is an Inheritor just in case you die that early but still would have hindered town a lot if you die Night 1 given that Shinichi inherited Lucian's ability already. Depending on your role I might could help you with that tonight. I believe I am the key to unlocking other roles potentials. Edit: I believe that Rosie became a full Cop D2 due to my actions N1 I believe that grrr became a full Doctor D3 due to my actions N2 Also, I don't think your "ability" would affect me so it must be a different condition. But ehh, you are free to do what you like. Im skeptic too so don't worry, i wanna know more about his ability. This situation would be easier to figure out if the person claiming wasnt grrr lol. |
Apr 24, 2017 11:26 AM
#2250
aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: No. I said I don't need to know why she (Coel) townread Jack and Penta. Because she explained. And she doesn't need to explain things twice. I don't disagree on that read.aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: When did I ever said that? What about Carrot?aa-dono said: I don't really need to know why you're townreading Jack and Penta. And your other scumread is Carrot, that I don't particularly care about being lynched. So I'll reserve until later and look into someone else. U dont think penta's involvement in the tieing is town motivated? Karote must care he claimed and he almost never claims Well thats one of the reasons i town read penta so im asssuming if ur questioning reads u must not like his tie vote. Oh ur saying he doesnt care but he must have cared about the pressure he role claimed. And her next scumread besides me is Karote, which similar to above, I don't disagree. tbf it honestly just seems like shes scum reading all the anti town players and town reading all the players with the towniest play styles lol |
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