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logic340 said:

JustKrista said:

I don't know, I was roleblocked 3 times, forgot when exactly when that was.

Hold up if you were RB night 1 then that mean GF is lying no?

My biggest problem is that they said that they "forgot when" they were roleblocked.

If their were actually role blocked then all they need to do to find out when that was is check their pms

Mar 20, 2017 8:55 AM

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logic340 said:

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I don't know, I was roleblocked 3 times, forgot when exactly when that was.

Hold up if you were RB night 1 then that mean GF is lying no?

@JustKrista Confirm if you're RB N1 or not. Cos if you are, then I think we may have caught scum...

Mar 20, 2017 8:55 AM

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Wait multiple people are revising history to da lamby still thought they were a cop on N3??????????? I just can't even.......

Mar 20, 2017 8:55 AM

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Discrepancy found!!!

On D2 Grapefruit and Rinto said they got messages saying they were RB but Krista said they received none and assumed they may have been though they didn't take their shot.
Now Krista is saying they were RB 3 times which means that GF couldn't have been blocked if Krista was blocked on all 3 nights since we know Lam blocked Rinto and TheConquerer

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Mar 20, 2017 8:57 AM

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logic340 said:

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Mafia has more info than town, obviously you wouldn't understand why.
Never thought about why Conq wasn't roleblocked, but I was?

Then I also realise mafia have been roleblocking me whole time, which yeah, could mean there are no mafia RB in the first place.

Which is nice way to make me look like scum, if they roleblocked anyone else, that would instantly prove that there is mafia rb after all so I don't find it weird at all I was roleblocked again.

You weren't blocked every time though Grapefruit says he was blocked N1 since Lam confirmed they RB'd Rinto and TheConquerer it leaves you and Grapefruit. The theory is you are mafia and didn't use the RB in an effort to gain town credit.

It just seems pretty convenient that the mafia didn't block or try to kill you the first night and then block you after finding out your shot can go through RB's. Help reconcile this for me please?

Well, okay. Then it's confirmed that there's Mafia RB?

Sigh, we could argue this all day and assume things.
If I shot Night 1, there's more chance of me killing town than mafia, you know?
If you find that they blocked me weird, I find Conq not getting blocked even more weird.
Yeah, yeah, I could be the Mafia RB all along. Still I'm uncounterclaimed Vigilante which is common role in mafia games and I proved myself by shooting Sonata, so I think I have more credibility than assumptions me being mafia.

Mar 20, 2017 8:57 AM

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Grapefruit21 said:
Wait multiple people are revising history to da lamby still thought they were a cop on N3??????????? I just can't even.......

Who is lying your or Krista?

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logic340 said:

Discrepancy found!!!

On D2 Grapefruit and Rinto said they got messages saying they were RB but Krista said they received none and assumed they may have been though they didn't take their shot.
Now Krista is saying they were RB 3 times which means that GF couldn't have been blocked if Krista was blocked on all 3 nights since we know Lam blocked Rinto and TheConquerer

My reaction to your bolded, upsized, centralized thingy...

Mar 20, 2017 8:58 AM

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logic340 said:

Hold up if you were RB night 1 then that mean GF is lying no?

@JustKrista Confirm if you're RB N1 or not. Cos if you are, then I think we may have caught scum...

Wait, let me check PM's.
DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING PLS

Mar 20, 2017 8:59 AM

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Ohh hey scum logic excitedly looking for any excuse to lynch me and win the game. Why on earth would I fake claim getting RBd as scum when there was already another claim of gettrbd. And then go through the whole thing of making Rinto claim RB notification first..... .

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#627 - He speculates that "Mafia knew he wouldn't shoot"? How is this even possible unless they are team mates and know he cannot shoot?

When im vigilante i always consider this, not because im scum but ik palyers here caan predict the actions of certain players.

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Thoughts:
3 posts overall D1 has nothing that says town at all what so ever.
#218 - The reasoning sounds forced and weak, especially for someone who has done nothing to this point and considering what their contribution for the remainder of this phase was. Also seems to have a strange concern over Shinichi's vote on him.
#296 - Questions Gwendolly's vote as a blank vote, though Gwendolly says "Are you gonna stay here and say more or what..." which implies she's trying to pressure him into actually solving the game.
#315 - Vigilante claim and nothing else.
#357 - Baiting? Acting? Being fluffy with grrr about NK?
#453 - Not sure what this post is even there for? I can understand trying to make the mafia sip wine but 10 minutes before the phase change seems like it's a little bit late to be effective. Not sure what to make of this?
#507 - This really pinged me as he really hasn't done anything to this point that says town only kept himself from being lynched and didn't prove his ability or alignment leaving a top lynch option from D1 and unknown on D2?
#516 - Considering he hasn't shared much information I am rather skeptical this is the reason for not taking the shot at the time. I really feel he kind of owed it to town to make sure he was the clear D2 based on 3 D1 posts and 2 N1 post. We came into D2 with more questions about Krista than we had D1 when he was a top lynch candidate and it still isn't resolved.
#624 - Another post that pings me considering that we had two people who claim to have been role blocked why would he be assuming he had been roleblocked?
#627 - He speculates that "Mafia knew he wouldn't shoot"? How is this even possible unless they are team mates and know he cannot shoot?
#641 - Second time he's been fluffy with grrr about the NK? (not sure how to read this)
#642 - Oh the irony when he isn't doing anything but skating by on his claim...
#871 - 229 posts with nothing then a blank Votes on Purity (2nd time voting Purity) for trusting Claire over Purity? He hasn't left any analysis on Claire and hasn't said anything about Purity past his first 2 D1 posts. Basically this is a blank vote which is hypocritical since he got on gwen for that in post #296
#880 - Another blank vote and this one at Claire's request. But my end of day was the most suspicious??? I smell a conspiracy.
#883 - Said he doesn't know what he is doing....I think he does.
#922 - This one pinged me and I addressed it in the thread. Feels like leaving himself an out.
#1016 - I find it ironic that Krista answered this question given he now says he shot Sonata
#1033 - Why did it take for Shinichi to ask if he shot Sonata for him to responds? He only now reveals he was roleblocked. #1028 is where Ruu implies Modkilling Sonata (sure wish that Krista would have come forward before all this mess).
#1062 - This one kind of speaks for itself but damn this is so bad. His reasons for voting Rinto have nothing to do with alignment from what I can see and one of his reasons is due to rinto having no suspects which he hasn't had any of this game either. LHF and hypocritical....wtf?
#1079 - We have no way of confirming this unless the host tell us, but why would they tell Krista and not the rest of us after implying that Sonata was NK? I struggle with the series of events.
#1172 - This one pings me because as we can see from what I have done here there is not sign of town when reading these posts and the funny thing is it was the claim that saved him D1 yet now we are supposed to ignore it?
#1200 - There is a lot of deflection here and he didn't answer my questions, he implies that I said sonata is more town than him (unless he's going off a read list idk where that was said).

So I don't know where this town Krista shit is coming from because:
He votes Purity and leaves it there all D1, while contributing 3 posts, and saves himself with his claim.
Night 1 has two fluff posts one being an extremely late WIFOM post.
Does pretty much nothing D2, blank votes Purity (second vote for Purity) because he trusts Claire, votes me because Claire said so. Yet I get flack for doing what Claire asked of me???
Night 2 earlier WIFOM this time around at least
D3 The whole order of events for him coming forward about his actiions and the RB.
Had he been like: "I shot Sonata but I was Role Blocked so IDK what happened here" and then everything else happened after then his story holds up better but the order of events coupled with his behavior and coasting off his claim is only reinforcing how I feel. I am quite happy with this vote. To this point he has none of his own suspects, votes Rinto while arguing that he isn't scum reading him.

Problem i have this this iso and by no means am i discreditiing it. The problem i have is too me this doesnt scream town or scum because this is how he acts every game, espically the way he votes and the respnses he makes towards claire.

Mar 20, 2017 8:59 AM

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JustKrista said:

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@JustKrista Confirm if you're RB N1 or not. Cos if you are, then I think we may have caught scum...

Wait, let me check PM's.
DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING PLS

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

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Mar 20, 2017 9:00 AM

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Ohh hey scum logic excitedly looking for any excuse to lynch me and win the game. Why on earth would I fake claim getting RBd as scum when there was already another claim of gettrbd. And then go through the whole thing of making Rinto claim RB notification first..... .

TBF his post goes against Krista too.

How many RB pms did you get this game?

Mar 20, 2017 9:01 AM

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JustKrista said:

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You weren't blocked every time though Grapefruit says he was blocked N1 since Lam confirmed they RB'd Rinto and TheConquerer it leaves you and Grapefruit. The theory is you are mafia and didn't use the RB in an effort to gain town credit.

It just seems pretty convenient that the mafia didn't block or try to kill you the first night and then block you after finding out your shot can go through RB's. Help reconcile this for me please?

Well, okay. Then it's confirmed that there's Mafia RB?

Sigh, we could argue this all day and assume things.
If I shot Night 1, there's more chance of me killing town than mafia, you know?
If you find that they blocked me weird, I find Conq not getting blocked even more weird.
Yeah, yeah, I could be the Mafia RB all along. Still I'm uncounterclaimed Vigilante which is common role in mafia games and I proved myself by shooting Sonata, so I think I have more credibility than assumptions me being mafia.

he is def uncced, but a mafia roleblocker is still present somewhere in all these claims lets not forgegt.

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@logic340 @grapefruit21 @CorruptedPurity

Do you think we could all play nice and vote Krista now? Or am I asking too much

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
@logic340 @grapefruit21 @CorruptedPurity

Do you think we could all play nice and vote Krista now? Or am I asking too much

We're waiting because there's a chance that grape is scum.

Mar 20, 2017 9:02 AM

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I got one RB pm. Just like I claimed.

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logic340 said:

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Wait, let me check PM's.
DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING PLS

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

when did grape get roleblocked? thought it was rinto and conq

Mar 20, 2017 9:03 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

when did grape get roleblocked? thought it was rinto and conq

nvm lol

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logic340 said:

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Wait, let me check PM's.
DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING PLS

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

I was roleblocked last night.
Then the night I shot Sonata I was roleblocked.
Then the night before I shot Sonata, I was roleblocked.

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JustKrista said:

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aa-dono said:
I don't think either logic340 or Rinto is scum. Since apparently JustKrista proved himself to be a vig, I think it's safe to cross him out.

Players left: CorruptedPurity, Grapefruit21, Oyasumi_Rosie, Shinichi-kun, and TheConquerer

@CorruptedPurity can you tell me why Shinichi is 99% town to you?
@Shinichi-kun Why do you think the lynch today should only be between Rinto and logic? How bout other players?

Hnn

BorrowedFromCorruptedPurity said:
Confirmed:
Kit - Cop
Gwendolly - Doctor
Claire - Vanilla
Suzune - Neighbor
Sonata - Vanilla
grrr - Vanilla
Lam-B - Roleblocker

Claims
Krista - Vig
Shinichi - Vanilla
Grapefruit - Vanilla
Oyssumi_Rosie - Double Voter
Rinto - Vanilla
TheConquerer - 75% Doc
Logic - Vanilla
CorruptedPurity - Vengeful
aa-dono - unknown

All the revealed townies have pretty common role.
Assuming all claims are true,
then town have more PRs:
- Vig
- Double Voter
- Vengeful
- 75% Doc

We know that scum have a roleblocker.
There's probably another 2 or 3 scum.

I think vig works well as town. But the other 3..... not so much.

Actually now that I think about it,
Rosie and TheConquerer both knew their bastardness. Same as Lamb. But role card doesn't reveal it. Not sure how Suzune described hers, but if we follow pattern from Lamb's role and Rosie + TheConq claims, then all PR have some sort of oddity.

That makes me clear both Rosie and Conq atm. Which leaves Vengeful and Vig.
Vengeful itself is a double edge role.
So the only one that doesn't fit is the vig = JustKrista.

but then how doo we explain the vig kill tho, and vengeful we cant prove it without lynching, but im fure his role is prob just has the fake modifier.

Mafia double killer is a role. This setup is crazy and this is one of the strongest towns I have been a part of for us to be losing like this to only a RB has me baffled so yea.....

Krista could be a double killer (1-shot) who claimed vig and could lie about the Rb being part of the Mafia team. If GF is town this would be part of why he is so sold since he did get RB. Night 2 they don't RB Krista makes double kill and says he was RB what proof do we have?

didnt he mention trying to make a kill on night 1? if not hes either lieing or scum just dont believe him about being a 1 shot not willing to take that chance.

Why not?
Are you having deja vu of Girls & Guns Mafia?

i dont even remember that game lol

It was where I fake-claimed Vig, mafia had an extra kill which took one night charge and took place next night, so I proved myself that way.
I claimed Poisoner though because I was converted to mafia, dunno if you remember now.

Wow so there is a precedent for my theory...@Grapefruit21 and @Shinichi-kun in light of this new information are you guys willing to reevaluate or nah?

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Ohh hey scum logic excitedly looking for any excuse to lynch me and win the game. Why on earth would I fake claim getting RBd as scum when there was already another claim of gettrbd. And then go through the whole thing of making Rinto claim RB notification first..... .

IDK I speculated about it way back then when it happened. see below

Two Roleblocker claims Rinto and Grapefruit. I have seen some of you say this is a type of role madness would town and scum role blockers make sense? Is there the potential for someone to be lying about it?

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
@logic340 @grapefruit21 @CorruptedPurity

Do you think we could all play nice and vote Krista now? Or am I asking too much

Please.

Mar 20, 2017 9:04 AM

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Grapefruit21 said:
I got one RB pm. Just like I claimed.

Gomen, but is it possible for you to confirm when you got it? Thank you for being so willing to work with us.

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Shinichi-Kun said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

when did grape get roleblocked? thought it was rinto and conq

Rinto and TheConquerer were blocked by Lamb.
Grape and JustKrista both claimed to be blocked by mafia.

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JustKrista said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

I was roleblocked last night.
Then the night I shot Sonata I was roleblocked.
Then the night before I shot Sonata, I was roleblocked.

so u were roleblocked every night then

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JustKrista said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

I was roleblocked last night.
Then the night I shot Sonata I was roleblocked.
Then the night before I shot Sonata, I was roleblocked.

So D2, D3, D4, in reverse order

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JustKrista said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

I was roleblocked last night.
Then the night I shot Sonata I was roleblocked.
Then the night before I shot Sonata, I was roleblocked.

So yeah something isn't adding up here then we have 3 RB's night 1 which means you or Grapefruit is lying.

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Can someone list all the roleblock claims?

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
@logic340 @grapefruit21 @CorruptedPurity

Do you think we could all play nice and vote Krista now? Or am I asking too much

Gimme a detailed explanation on why Krista is scum? Only thing is that she has a mean personality but overall, I can't lynch her for her personality. She does not scream scum to me... yet (The RB thing may change my mind)

I'll see how the RB thing plays out. I may switch to Grape or Krista. (Just may, also a good chance I'll keep my vote where it is)

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I got RBd N1. Not claimed by Lamby. I think this makes me conf town. Most people disagree.

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JustKrista said:

logic340 said:

You said it not me. We have known since D2 that Grape and Rinto both received PM's saying they were RB. You just said you were blocked all 3 nights something isn't adding up?

I was roleblocked last night.
Then the night I shot Sonata I was roleblocked.
Then the night before I shot Sonata, I was roleblocked.

Grapefruit21 said:
I got RBd N1. Not claimed by Lamby. I think this makes me conf town. Most people disagree.

So we have a N1 RB cc?

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Can someone list all the roleblock claims?

Grapefruit and Rinto D2
Krista and TheConquerer D3
Krista D4
I do not remember Krista claiming RB on D1 I did an iso and there is no mention of receiving a PM saying they were RB.

@Grapefruit21 How do you feel about Krista saying they were RB'd N1?

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Rinto-kun said:
I was roleblocked, just dropping some info. :P
And, ouch, Doc and Sheriff dead so early. We've got no luck with power roles.

From Day2 AKA N1

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Shinichi-Kun said:
Can someone list all the roleblock claims?

N1
Rinto (by Lamb), Grapefruit and JustKrista

N2
TheConquerer (by Lamb) and JustKrista

N3
TheConquerer and JustKrista

Mar 20, 2017 9:07 AM

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Grapefruit21 said:
I got RBd N1. Not claimed by Lamby. I think this makes me conf town. Most people disagree.

Krista just said that they were RB night 1 so who is it you or him? Because Lam cleared Rinto

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Mar 20, 2017 9:07 AM

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Is Krista not backing down from claiming 3 RBs? I'll vote her? I must have missed that post because I've only seen people talking about it

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N1
Rinto (by Lamb), Grapefruit and JustKrista This cannot work someone is lying!!!!!

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logic340 said:

Grapefruit21 said:
I got RBd N1. Not claimed by Lamby. I think this makes me conf town. Most people disagree.

Krista just said that they were RB night 1 so who is it you or him? Because Lam cleared Rinto

Wait though... that condricts what they said D2 about being RB. Mostly that they weren't.

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CorruptedPurity said:

Oyasumi_Rosie said:
@logic340 @grapefruit21 @CorruptedPurity

Do you think we could all play nice and vote Krista now? Or am I asking too much

Gimme a detailed explanation on why Krista is scum? Only thing is that she has a mean personality but overall, I can't lynch her for her personality. She does not scream scum to me... yet (The RB thing may change my mind)

I'll see how the RB thing plays out. I may switch to Grape or Krista. (Just may, also a good chance I'll keep my vote where it is)

Mean personality?
If I offended you then I didn't mean it, just how I play, I'm different outside of mafia games. I put off feelings in mafia games, lol.

By the way, I'm male too.

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As of now, we have 3 claims of roleblock from N1. We know to have a max of only 2 roleblockers.

The claims are
Rinto

Grape

Krista

Mar 20, 2017 9:09 AM

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logic340 said:
N1
Rinto (by Lamb), Grapefruit and JustKrista This cannot work someone is lying!!!!!

yep someone is def lieing.

the question which one

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Grapefruit21 said:
Is Krista not backing down from claiming 3 RBs? I'll vote her? I must have missed that post because I've only seen people talking about it

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1598107&show=1900#msg50050690 not the exact post but..... eh, close enough

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Rinto's RB claim is cleared by lamb so Grape or Krista is lying and is mafia. Our focus should be just the two of them for now

unvotes

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@Shinichi-kun @Grapefruit21 Krista said they were RB night 1 when Rintio and Grapefruit already had come forward who is lying?

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Shinichi-Kun said:

logic340 said:
N1
Rinto (by Lamb), Grapefruit and JustKrista This cannot work someone is lying!!!!!

yep someone is def lieing.

the question which one

Lamb isn't a role block though right? Then between Grapefruit and Krista, one could have been blocked by town and the other by mafia

Mar 20, 2017 9:11 AM

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I'm confused :|
I think I got the RB orders wrong or not ...........

Mar 20, 2017 9:11 AM

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logic340 said:
@Shinichi-kun @Grapefruit21 Krista said they were RB night 1 when Rintio and Grapefruit already had come forward who is lying?

one im thinking is either karote is lieing to get town grape lynched or hes lieing to get scum grape lynched.

Which is the problem i cant figure out

Mar 20, 2017 9:11 AM

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Why would Krista lie D1 about being RB and put only one themselves but everyone around the in a bad position??

Mar 20, 2017 9:11 AM

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Actually I think I remember Krista saying they weren't RBd N1 and that making me angrier they didn't shoot. ..

Anyway I haven't seen him retract the claim so vote just krista

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Shinichi-Kun said:

logic340 said:
N1
Rinto (by Lamb), Grapefruit and JustKrista This cannot work someone is lying!!!!!

yep someone is def lieing.

the question which one

IDK I have been on both of them while you defended them both why don't you share your thoughts with me this time around?

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