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Rex_Connor said: Fai said: Yes, let's steal Lucy's best moment with Aquarius powers and give it to Gray. Because gods know Gray suuure lacks powers.... *facepalm* It was Juvia's powers to begin with *facepalm*. Lucy pretty much got some of Juvia's powers in that arc *facepalm* Actually no Aquarius existed before Juvia in the manga. And the way the power was used was specific to Lucy. |
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| Zero emotional attachment to Juvia. I don't care if they bring her back but I'm sure they'll find a way. |
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dinesj21 said: Zero emotional attachment to Juvia. I don't care if they bring her back but I'm sure they'll find a way. My theories on how Juvia will be brought back : 1) Larcade turns to the good side and extracts her soul from Gray's body and puts it back in her body. 2) Irene turns to the good side and affixes her blood and consciousness out of Gray. 3) They capture Neinhart, make him summon a Juvia Historia and then make her use Water Make : Blood to put blood back in Juvia's body again. |
frostmourn said: Rex_Connor said: You weren't targeted, you were called out for your own stupidity. All of your -ve development on Gray was debunked, to a point that you had no counter to it. Going for suicide "irrespective of the situation" is still -ve development for Grey, since the majority of his development involved him being taught the value of his own life. Don't say it's cause his happiness was killed, no. There are many more people who care about him and could cheer him up. He knew Juvia for no more than 20 months, he still has people around him. So if you're unhappy, you're gonna suicide? You're gonna suicide if your parner dies? Things don't work that way. You live your life only once, and have got to live it to the fullest before dying, and should keep fighting for your life. That's what Grey got as a development. Him killing himself cause one person died, leaving behind multiple number of friends and family saddened and depressed is a commendable act? I call that coward-ism And by the way, he got over the death of his parents, Ul, and Ultear GIVEN the time. He can surely get over Juvia's death as well. I'm just going to ask you a question: Assume you have a girlfriend and get really close to her. You see her dying before you. You suicide? Just remember that your parents, siblings and friends who also care about you a LOT and would try to get you over that and try to cheer you up are still alive. You're gonna suicide leaving them saddened? If the answer is yes, we have different outlooks on life and it's best that we agree to disagree No it isn't, you can't disregard the situation just because you want to. Majority of the development is taught to Gray to not take his comrades lives away. What Gray did is par on the course. Juvia is a major source of his happiness. It was because of her, that Gray's sulky self smiled at the end of the GMG arc. Gray had two choices, Would he have the choice to commit murdering his partner, or killing his partner and saving himself. Gray picked option 1, and so it was called a commendable act. Being a coward is taking it the easy way by killing your partner and getting that out of the situation like it was nothing. Gray was taught by Ul, and his parents to care for his comrades,not kill him. Cowardism for example is what Gajeel would display if he was put in the lock spell position with Levy and chose to kill her. Can he got over the deaths of someone he personally killed with his own hands? Can he get over the source of his own happiness, and a girl he was going to date? Fuck no. Be practical. I would suicide if I killed my girlfriend with my own hands. How the fuck are they going to cheer me up when they would abolish me since I would commit a sin to get away. Your parents, and siblings would cheer you up when you commit murder? Is that what you are telling me now? |
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Geekwoglasses said: She's my least favorite character in the series so I hope they don't bring her back. But sad to say, you're probably right.dinesj21 said: Zero emotional attachment to Juvia. I don't care if they bring her back but I'm sure they'll find a way. My theories on how Juvia will be brought back : 1) Larcade turns to the good side and extracts her soul from Gray's body and puts it back in her body. 2) Irene turns to the good side and affixes her blood and consciousness out of Gray. 3) They capture Neinhart, make him summon a Juvia Historia and then make her use Water Make : Blood to put blood back in Juvia's body again. |
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Geekwoglasses said: dinesj21 said: Zero emotional attachment to Juvia. I don't care if they bring her back but I'm sure they'll find a way. My theories on how Juvia will be brought back : 1) Larcade turns to the good side and extracts her soul from Gray's body and puts it back in her body. 2) Irene turns to the good side and affixes her blood and consciousness out of Gray. 3) They capture Neinhart, make him summon a Juvia Historia and then make her use Water Make : Blood to put blood back in Juvia's body again. More likely is 4) Just like with Gajeel it just randomly happens and she is back without Mashima explaining shit. |
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Fai said: Geekwoglasses said: My theories on how Juvia will be brought back : 1) Larcade turns to the good side and extracts her soul from Gray's body and puts it back in her body. 2) Irene turns to the good side and affixes her blood and consciousness out of Gray. 3) They capture Neinhart, make him summon a Juvia Historia and then make her use Water Make : Blood to put blood back in Juvia's body again. More likely is 4) Just like with Gajeel it just randomly happens and she is back without Mashima explaining shit. Sadly, you're probably correct :/ |
Isterio said: the Gruvia couple is horribly written because I like to spread oil on the fire :D |
| thank god both of them had the same blood-type otherwise she would've wasted her blood for nothing at all. :^) |
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| Were they getting beat up, though? Didn't look like anyone took any damage. They were just getting pushed by his water. More of a minor inconvenience really. Hell, his first attack just helped Natsu. |
AllenNoahAug 30, 2016 2:22 PM
Isterio said: That´s just fact. I can give anyone who asks a proper explanation why they aren´t believable. I´m not bothered by Juvia´s antics, but the fact that Gray straight up denied and refused her just to fall for her because she freed his dead father from his zombification was the equivalent of the damsel in distress who falls for her knight in shining armor. The damsel in this case being Gray! Care to rethink what you just typed? This post makes no sense. |
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ixarising said: frostmourn said: Except that it was HISTORIA Serena who was beating up Team Natsu like it was NOTHING. Just remember that base Natsu was fighting on par with Jacob, a Spriggan Historia Spriggans only has a portion of their true strength. See Wahl going from fighting on par with Laxus to an extend to fighting on par with Minerva (a.k.a Fodder at this point). This just shows you how nerfed Spriggan Historias are. Even Gildarts addressed to this. Serena went from being someone who could possibly beat Gildarts to someone who got beten by Gildarts with low difficulty. See? Even Historia Serena was above Jacob level. Even Histria Serena was above the regular Spriggans This just shows you how freaking strong the original Serena is. And Gildarts is the same power as him. I have no doubt in my mind that Serena and Gildarts are at least a tier above FDKM Natsu. This is because FDKM powerup is confirmed weaker than DF powerup since DF is the most powerful powerup a DS can get. DF powerup is 2x-3x the base power (stated by Natsu in fight against Zero in OS arc). Historia Serena himself was at least 2 times stronger than Base Natsu. Historia Serena is like 4/10 the power of the original Serena. This means that, even if you consider the FDKM powerup to be 2.5x (say), Prime Serena and Gildarts are still about 2 times stronger than FDKM Natsu See? This is why I said they're a tier above FDKM Natsu On par with Jacob? Natsu had Lucy, Happy and Makarov helping him. That's not even on par. And as we saw, the only reason he needed help is because he didn't want to wreck the guild hall. If they were fighting anywhere else, one-shot. As we saw when Makarov launched him outta the guild. |
| This chapter was too much for my heart. As a huge Juvia fanboy my profile has her as my favourites she is dead. Oh how I wish it was little Levy. FAAACK!!! SSJ01 Gray is ready to break the shounen plot next week! Yeaahhh booiiii!!! |
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frostmourn said: ixarising said: Well having brains clearly isn't in Jacob's personality. But since Jacob did clear the entire FT guild easily including Makarov, i don't see how he's inferior to Serena in terms of strength. That's hax dude. Hax and stats are TOTALLY different. Stats are: durability, physical strength, speed, spell power, nuke power, attack speed, reaction speed, combat speed, defence, magic power (the sensable one, probably scales to some of the stats like spell power, cast speed, nuke power etc) and anything else I left out lol Base Natsu ~ Jacob in pure overall stats, while going all out. Serena=Gildarts >> FDKM Natsu >>> Jacob~base Natsu in PURE STATS Jacob's specialty is hax. His hax ignores durability and one shots anyone. But the condition for his hax to work is for him to CLAP his hands. Anyone who can blitz him before he can clap his hands can beat him. For eg: I'm pretty sure than among the alliance members; Gildarts, Jellal,FDKM Natsu and Laxus (and DF Gajeel, tho he can't go DF by his own will) can do it. Same with Dimaria's timestop hax. The condition for timestop is click teeth. Click teeth takes about 0.3 secs, so anyone who can blitz and one shot her within 0.3 secs can beat her. The 4 mentioned above can do it IMO, which automatically translates to Serena being capable of doing that as well That's true however Jacob's hax has a weak point. Anyone who can get out of Transport's range (which is approximately the size of the guild hall) can avoid the spell. Then all it comes down to is defeating him. As for Dimaria, while I agree with you that her stats are shit (her STRONGEST spell was blocked by a barrier by Wendy FFS -_-), I don't think anyone in Ishgar is that fast that they can blitz her in 0.3 seconds... Dimaria really is a wild card IMO, let's wait how Mashima plays her out. |
frostmourn said: Geekwoglasses said: That's true however Jacob's hax has a weak point. Anyone who can get out of Transport's range (which is approximately the size of the guild hall) can avoid the spell. Then all it comes down to is defeating him. As for Dimaria, while I agree with you that her stats are shit (her STRONGEST spell was blocked by a barrier by Wendy FFS -_-), I don't think anyone in Ishgar is that fast that they can blitz her in 0.3 seconds... Dimaria really is a wild card IMO, let's wait how Mashima plays her out. Yeah, Jacob can be nuked from far off too, you're right I'm pretty sure Serena's and August's reaction speed is within 0.1 secs, they got blitzed by a bloodlusted Acnologia, confirming that there are people who can easily blitz her in 0.1 secs Lightning speed can easily reach near her in even 0.1 secs. This means Laxus can blitz her in 0.3 secs. Natsu has shown reacting to lightning in the past too, but couldn't react to meteor. So this means Jellal can also easily blitz her in 0.3 secs. FDKM Natsu blitzed Jacob, I think he can blitz Dimaria as well before 0.3 secs. Serena and Gildrts are at least a tier above Laxus and Jellal, they blitz her hard within 0.3 secs. IMO these characters can kill Dimaria in 0.3 sec or has counter to timestop: ALL Dragons (travels across continents in minutes, enough siad) August Eileen Gildarts Serena Jellal Laxus Larcade (by Hype) Invel (instafreeze) FDKM Natsu DF Gajeel Mard Geer (1000 thorns from below her, his cast speed is very high) Zeref (he actually knows timestop lol) Hades (taught Ultear timestop, can counter her tiemstop) Yeah, you're right. Not to mention, even if she does stop time, she won't be able to get past some of those characters' durability. |
frostmourn said: Geekwoglasses said: Yeah, you're right. Not to mention, even if she does stop time, she won't be able to get past some of those characters' durability. I think only dragons have that much durability (but irrelevant since they blitz anyway) Swords are lethal and kill in FT verse. She can stop time and cut off the heads of humans. So, unless you counter the timestop, you're dead for sure unless you're a dragon Wait, I remembered about NLF as well so it may also be a factor as to how they can counter Age Seal. |
frostmourn said: Geekwoglasses said: Wait, I remembered about NLF as well so it may also be a factor as to how they can counter Age Seal. What does NFL mean? No Limit Fallacy. Basically, a general shounen rule where if someone's energy or power levels is greater, they won't be affected by hax. For example, in Bleach, Soi Fon's bankai is a two-hit kill however when she used it on Aizen, it didn't work on him because his reiatsu was greater. In FT, that would be magic power. And this is a common trope used frequently in anime/mangas |
frostmourn said: Geekwoglasses said: No Limit Fallacy. Basically, a general shounen rule where if someone's energy or power levels is greater, they won't be affected by hax. For example, in Bleach, Soi Fon's bankai is a two-hit kill however when she used it on Aizen, it didn't work on him because his reiatsu was greater. In FT, that would be magic power. And this is a common trope used frequently in anime/mangas Ohh, I see. In that case Dimaria is the weakest Spriggan period. Her magic power is certainly the lowest among Spriggans. But I think we shouldn't put unnecessary restriction on hax FOR NOW. We all know that Deliora was much stronger than Ul but her Iced Shell (a hax) one shotted Deliora regardless Well tbh, if Age Seal was really all that powerful, Zeref would've used it on Acno long ago |
Here is some logic for you! It cures all the "diseases" causd by emotions called delusion, obsessive fanboying and blind shipping.  I´ll gladly listen as to how you´describe the content of this scene! |
frostmourn said: Geekwoglasses said: Well tbh, if Age Seal was really all that powerful, Zeref would've used it on Acno long ago Acnologia has lived for 400+ years and probably knows enough time magic to counter it Good point. I also recall him saying 'A magic unbeknownst to even me?' during his skirmish with Irene. frostmourn said: Karmafan56 said: If Juvia is so important to Gray why the hell did he never ask her to marry him? Cause she isn't, except for some forced AF panels. He only thinks of her as a friend/comrade at least from protrayal This ship is forced AF It sorta is. How I see it is that Gray eventually developed feelings for her during/after Tartaros, although he had none before-hand. Isterio said: Here is some logic for you! It cures all the "diseases" causd by emotions called delusion, obsessive fanboying and blind shipping. I´ll gladly listen as to how you´describe the content of this scene! I honestly felt that was a gag moment more than anything else. |
Isterio said: Here is some logic for you! It cures all the "diseases" causd by emotions called delusion, obsessive fanboying and blind shipping. I´ll gladly listen as to how you´describe the content of this scene! Oh? So you are using a clear comedic relief scene as your basis now? Talk about deluded obsessive fanhating and anti-shipping. These are facts: http://rieriebee.tumblr.com/post/149721177175/why-chapter-499-confirms-grays-feelings-for-juvia |
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| Omg did someone actually die!!! I still can't believe Mashima actually killed a character! Oh wait, she will still be communicating with gray via her blood...Still, it's a great start. I really start to like that ice mage, like he is the only magician, who can use ice properly |
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| What about blood type? Are Gray and Juvia has same blood type? If Hiro didnt thought of this, he is failure as a human. 2.3/5 |
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Isterio said: Raijin-sama619 said: What about blood type? Are Gray and Juvia has same blood type? If Hiro didnt thought of this, he is failure as a human. 2.3/5 0 blood type can be transfused to anyone. Arigatou Gozaimasu O o O |
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Isterio said: Here is some logic for you! It cures all the "diseases" causd by emotions called delusion, obsessive fanboying and blind shipping. I´ll gladly listen as to how you´describe the content of this scene! Ah but at this point Gray is still in denial. Although Gray often ignores Juvia, this is the only time he actually denies her. A part of him is still remembering that he almoast lost her. If you've forgotten, Gray just 'died' to save Juvia. That causes a lot of mixed emotions. Throughout the series there are several small scenes of development between the pair. Although the pair's development is very subtle, it's there from the beginning. Gray did allow Juvia to live with him after all. Not to mention all those small moments in between. Gray and Juvia are actually one of my favorite couples because of how far they've come. Over time Juvia has calmed down quite a lot, and Gray has grown much warmer. Have you forgotten the scene just before the war where Gray tells Juvia he will reveal his TRUE feelings after the war, and to let him focus for now. For me this was the biggest turning point. |
| Guys, from the spoilers, it seems chapter 500 is going to be terrible... |
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