Pandarenboy said: Can't remember a single sountrack from F/Z so doesn't matter in any way to me. You're dead inside. |
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Aredros said: Nah, just deaf.Pandarenboy said: Can't remember a single sountrack from F/Z so doesn't matter in any way to me. You're dead inside. |
| I will have an incredibly hard time watching this remake if she doesn't do the OST. |
Vokoca said: I will have an incredibly hard time watching this remake if she doesn't do the OST. This. I just can't imagine Fate Series without Yuki Kajiura's OST. |
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rubella_boy said: Vokoca said: I will have an incredibly hard time watching this remake if she doesn't do the OST. This. I just can't imagine Fate Series without Yuki Kajiura's OST. Not that she won't do it(its obvious she will and I just hope she won't change the original soundtrack too much), but Fate franchise has survived well enough without her involvement for years upon years. Original FSN's soundtrack still trumphs everything in Fate/Zero and Fate/Extra did just fine without her involvement too. |
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Fai said: rubella_boy said: Vokoca said: I will have an incredibly hard time watching this remake if she doesn't do the OST. This. I just can't imagine Fate Series without Yuki Kajiura's OST. Not that she won't do it(its obvious she will and I just hope she won't change the original soundtrack too much), but Fate franchise has survived well enough without her involvement for years upon years. Original FSN's soundtrack still trumphs everything in Fate/Zero and Fate/Extra did just fine without her involvement too. If she is, I'm hoping for at least 2 new battle themes on the level of Battle is to the Strong. It would be nice to hear different pieces in different fights, as much as I liked the battle theme from f/0, I thought they used it too much. |
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Botato said: Fai said: rubella_boy said: Vokoca said: I will have an incredibly hard time watching this remake if she doesn't do the OST. This. I just can't imagine Fate Series without Yuki Kajiura's OST. Not that she won't do it(its obvious she will and I just hope she won't change the original soundtrack too much), but Fate franchise has survived well enough without her involvement for years upon years. Original FSN's soundtrack still trumphs everything in Fate/Zero and Fate/Extra did just fine without her involvement too. If she is, I'm hoping for at least 2 new battle themes on the level of Battle is to the Strong. It would be nice to hear different pieces in different fights, as much as I liked the battle theme from f/0, I thought they used it too much. We already have: Mighty Wind, two versions of EMIYA, two or three versions of Sword of Promised Victory, etc Apart from most of servants getting their own theme no need to invent new themes if we already have well-fitting music. THat would only ruin the work. She could create new non-combat music. |
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| Just watch them use Mighty Wind in every battle... I'm down for reusing the old tracks (EMIYA >>>>>> everything else), but it would be nice to have new 'fresh' ones. (Also I want more of Yuki's music goodness, I don't think SAO II's OST will be enough :3 ) |
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Botato said: Just watch them use Mighty Wind in every battle... I'm down for reusing the old tracks (EMIYA >>>>>> everything else), but it would be nice to have new 'fresh' ones. (Also I want more of Yuki's music goodness, I don't think SAO II's OST will be enough :3 ) Her SAO work was incredibly subpar though. |
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Fai said: Botato said: Just watch them use Mighty Wind in every battle... I'm down for reusing the old tracks (EMIYA >>>>>> everything else), but it would be nice to have new 'fresh' ones. (Also I want more of Yuki's music goodness, I don't think SAO II's OST will be enough :3 ) Her SAO work was incredibly subpar though. her work on madoka magica and fate/zero were incredible to counter that though but there are definitely better than her out there :/ |
Celestrial2 said: Fai said: Botato said: Just watch them use Mighty Wind in every battle... I'm down for reusing the old tracks (EMIYA >>>>>> everything else), but it would be nice to have new 'fresh' ones. (Also I want more of Yuki's music goodness, I don't think SAO II's OST will be enough :3 ) Her SAO work was incredibly subpar though. her work on madoka magica and fate/zero were incredible to counter that though but there are definitely better than her out there :/ But SAO has dat Swordland thingy... But yeah the rest of the OST was not as solid as, say, her work on f/0. If it happens again with SAO II she should compensate with a kickass OST for F/SN :3 Oh and just throwing this out there: EMIYA >>>>>> Madoka OST >> f/0 OST >>> SAO OST. Something as good as Madoka would be perfect. |
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| I find Yuki Kaijura TREMENDOUSLY overrated and far from the best composer out there but will be fine with her composing the OST if it's to be because I think she fits and has become a key part of the adaptations by ufoTABLE. I think she's probably the odds on bet just because of Aniplex's love for her in general and reasons of continuity though. Pandarenboy said: Can't remember a single sountrack from F/Z so doesn't matter in any way to me. I think I might remember a couple, but there's an equally good chance they came from SAO. A lot of her music aside from the Kara no Kyokai soundtrack where she gets the atmosphere thing down quite will is of what I like to call the generic choral chant variety. I prefer the more Celtic sounding stuff of hers or again the kind of atmospheric stuff from Kara no Kyokai. |
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Botato said: Celestrial2 said: Fai said: Botato said: Just watch them use Mighty Wind in every battle... I'm down for reusing the old tracks (EMIYA >>>>>> everything else), but it would be nice to have new 'fresh' ones. (Also I want more of Yuki's music goodness, I don't think SAO II's OST will be enough :3 ) Her SAO work was incredibly subpar though. her work on madoka magica and fate/zero were incredible to counter that though but there are definitely better than her out there :/ But SAO has dat Swordland thingy... But yeah the rest of the OST was not as solid as, say, her work on f/0. If it happens again with SAO II she should compensate with a kickass OST for F/SN :3 Oh and just throwing this out there: EMIYA >>>>>> Madoka OST >> f/0 OST >>> SAO OST. Something as good as Madoka would be perfect. Correction: Saber Nero Theme = Mahotsukai No Yoru OST(might as well be the new EMIYA in terms of badassery) = EMIYA 2012 =EMIYA Illya ver. (Shoujo Shinka) = BB Battle song > every. single. piece in Kajiura Yuki's TRC OST (The only thing I will accept from that dreadful "adaptation" of one of the best things ever) = 2012 version of Mighty Wind >>>>>> Madoka OST >> f/0 OST >>> SAO OST EDIT: as I said before, for the OP, If we are not getting Earthmind who did Realta Nua Ops, I'd rather someone like Supercell did the OP. Kajiura Yuki I hope stays away from the OP. Tainaka Sachi is welcome on other hand. |
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Fai said: Botato said: Correction:But SAO has dat Swordland thingy... But yeah the rest of the OST was not as solid as, say, her work on f/0. If it happens again with SAO II she should compensate with a kickass OST for F/SN :3 Oh and just throwing this out there: EMIYA >>>>>> Madoka OST >> f/0 OST >>> SAO OST. Something as good as Madoka would be perfect. Saber Nero Theme = Mahotsukai No Yoru OST(might as well be the new EMIYA in terms of badassery) = EMIYA 2012 =EMIYA Illya ver. (Shoujo Shinka) = BB Battle song > every. single. piece in Kajiura Yuki's TRC OST (The only thing I will accept from that dreadful "adaptation" of one of the best things ever) = 2012 version of Mighty Wind >>>>>> Madoka OST >> f/0 OST >>> SAO OST EDIT: as I said before, for the OP, If we are not getting Earthmind who did Realta Nua Ops, I'd rather someone like Supercell did the OP. Kajiura Yuki I hope stays away from the OP. Tainaka Sachi is welcome on other hand. That's just nitpicking, not a correction :P Why not? I think Yuki + Kalafina would result in a pretty damn good OP. It would be funny if we get Lisa though XD (don't get me wrong, she's awesome, but since no one is expecting her, it would be interesting...) |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: I find Yuki Kaijura TREMENDOUSLY overrated and far from the best composer out there but will be fine with her composing the OST if it's to be because I think she fits and has become a key part of the adaptations by ufoTABLE. I think she's probably the odds on bet just because of Aniplex's love for her in general and reasons of continuity though. Pandarenboy said: Can't remember a single sountrack from F/Z so doesn't matter in any way to me. I think I might remember a couple, but there's an equally good chance they came from SAO. A lot of her music aside from the Kara no Kyokai soundtrack where she gets the atmosphere thing down quite will is of what I like to call the generic choral chant variety. I prefer the more Celtic sounding stuff of hers or again the kind of atmospheric stuff from Kara no Kyokai. Yep so much bullshit. As for being the best...maybe not the best but definitely a lot better than most out there.The other "best composer" that Kajiura haters keep praising, Kenji Kawai, didnt create anything worth of that title in the old FSNs.And the only thing he had to do was to "improve" an already great OST from a then amauteur doujin cicle. Meanwhile, as far as Type Moon+ufotable adaptations are concerned , Kajiura has done an excellent job.The overuse of certain tracks in FZ are the director's fault not of the composer. |
Botato said: Why not? I think Yuki + Kalafina would result in a pretty damn good OP. It would be funny if we get Lisa though XD (don't get me wrong, she's awesome, but since no one is expecting her, it would be interesting...) Present day Kajiura Yuki are pretty much gothic choruses. None of that stuff fits FSN op, nor the theme that it should portray. Thus she is good for an OST, but not for the op. |
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| Well she would be great for Femme Fatale,Mind of Steel storylines..:/ |
| Ah I see.. Well, as long as we get a good OP, it doesn't matter who does it. |
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| Susumu Hirasawa would be an interesting choice, I really liked his Berserk movie OST. But I would be totally fine with Kajiura, her music simply fits Type-Moon stuff so well. |
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cupc said: Susumu Hirasawa would be an interesting choice, I really liked his Berserk movie OST. I don't think it would fit with FSN in my opinion, either way I doubt he would do it. He didn't want to do the soundtrack for the new Berserk movies (except for 1 song). Not sure that he's interested in composing music for anime anymore. I think Yoko Kanno would be a better choice. |
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| Hell YES! Yuki Kajiura made a perfect Soundtrack for F/Z of course she should make one for F/SN |
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| Reminders that Kajiura will never make a good Emiya remix. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Fullmetal89 said: cupc said: Susumu Hirasawa would be an interesting choice, I really liked his Berserk movie OST. I don't think it would fit with FSN in my opinion, either way I doubt he would do it. He didn't want to do the soundtrack for the new Berserk movies (except for 1 song). Not sure that he's interested in composing music for anime anymore. I think Yoko Kanno would be a better choice. Actually, his music could give it a very nice edge. Imagine this in F/SN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddw2g4tViuA Could work, eh? But yeah, Kajiura it is. |
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BloodRequiem said: Reminders that Kajiura will never make a good Emiya remix. THis is true and I hope to gods she does not try. Just use the 2012 version and be done with it. cupc said: Fullmetal89 said: cupc said: Susumu Hirasawa would be an interesting choice, I really liked his Berserk movie OST. I don't think it would fit with FSN in my opinion, either way I doubt he would do it. He didn't want to do the soundtrack for the new Berserk movies (except for 1 song). Not sure that he's interested in composing music for anime anymore. I think Yoko Kanno would be a better choice. Actually, his music could give it a very nice edge. Imagine this in F/SN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddw2g4tViuA Could work, eh? But yeah, Kajiura it is. That song is complete opposite to FSN's mood and atmosphere. Unless they adapt one of Bad Ends I can't see any place in the story where they would use it. The closest to it would be |
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| I would be fine if she does. I really love her tracks but seven hells don't make her do a Remiyax. |
| I seem to be in the minority here, but I am actually interested in hearing an EMIYA remix by Kajiura. |
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Botato said: Me too.I seem to be in the minority here, but I am actually interested in hearing an EMIYA remix by Kajiura. |
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| From the website: Events ufotable who are making the "Fate / staynight" to produce "town ★ Asobi". The site aims to guest companies and to participate in its "town ★ Asobi" can be a global presence of Kyushu, just off Kitakyushu Kokura Station, "the city ★ Asobi Cafe" is open from May 17th! Open the first day, everyone of Kalafina will also visit as a guest! ★ "town ★ Asobi Cafe" official HP is here http://www.fate-sn.com/news/index.html#news30313 This is probably irrelevant, but it mentions Kalafina so are they maybe involved with the OP/ED or something? Let's start a rumor... |
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CobaltArchangel said: Kajiura is the only one who can do it justice! Ofcourse any other composer has a chance to wow us but after what she did for Fate/Zero I just want her to get another chance to mesmerize me with her talent! Update: it has been confirmed by her twitter account that she is composing the Fate remake's soundtrack! https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-05-03/yuri-kajiura-to-score-october-fate/zero-tv-anime That's for fate/zero, not for fate/stay night |
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Botato said: From the website: Events ufotable who are making the "Fate / staynight" to produce "town ★ Asobi". The site aims to guest companies and to participate in its "town ★ Asobi" can be a global presence of Kyushu, just off Kitakyushu Kokura Station, "the city ★ Asobi Cafe" is open from May 17th! Open the first day, everyone of Kalafina will also visit as a guest! ★ "town ★ Asobi Cafe" official HP is here http://www.fate-sn.com/news/index.html#news30313 This is probably irrelevant, but it mentions Kalafina so are they maybe involved with the OP/ED or something? Let's start a rumor... Oh gods I hope not. I am okay with kalafina involvement and all, but leave stuff like that for KNK openings or the eventual tsukihime adaptation. Kalafina stuff is the total opposite of FSN's tone and mood and just fuck no. Add them wherever, but NOT to the op. |
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| Inb4 "Battle is to the Strong" is recycled and used in every action scene. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
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Saritur said: BloodRequiem said: Inb4 "Battle is to the Strong" is recycled and used in every action scene. umad the battle is too strong for u It was used in like four battle scenes and fit all of them. That's hardly overused. |
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Fai said: no but seriously every type moon work has certain style of ost for action - Fate/Zero is overly-fatalistic because the conclusion is pre-set from the start. - KnK is mystical, with Budhism motifs, with sense of wonder through twisted reality, rebuilding your self etc. Fate/Zero type of kalafina work would outright not fit FSN thematics in the opening. Because composers never try to match their work with the atmosphere of the series they work on... Pretty sure that the difference you showed ,if it even exists, between FZ and KnK, shows that they can create different styles. And please, it is more personal preference than "atmosphere" and thematics. Pretty sure that whether they use "The battle is to the Strong" or "Light and Darkness" in HF's last last fight, the only ones that would care are VN readers. |
HeisenDurden said: To be precise:Saritur said: BloodRequiem said: Inb4 "Battle is to the Strong" is recycled and used in every action scene. umad the battle is too strong for u It was used in like four battle scenes and fit all of them. That's hardly overused. I think that's all of them. ssjokg said: I don't think that's enough to convince Fai. But I have to ask, do you want the VN's tracks because they fit, and believe that they can't make equally fitting music? Or because you're used to the scenes with those particular tracks?Fai said: no but seriously every type moon work has certain style of ost for action - Fate/Zero is overly-fatalistic because the conclusion is pre-set from the start. - KnK is mystical, with Budhism motifs, with sense of wonder through twisted reality, rebuilding your self etc. Fate/Zero type of kalafina work would outright not fit FSN thematics in the opening. Because composers never try to match their work with the atmosphere of the series they work on... Pretty sure that the difference you showed ,if it even exists, between FZ and KnK, shows that they can create different styles. And please, it is more personal preference than "atmosphere" and thematics. Pretty sure that whether they use "The battle is to the Strong" or "Light and Darkness" in HF's last last fight, the only ones that would care are VN readers. |
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| I assume you are asking Fai.... But anyway both have their good points. Whether they use the originals, some remix or entirely new ost I dont care as long as it matches the scene and makes it awesome.Well if I had to chose I would go with originals. Kirei vs Kiritsugu didnt use Emiya Time Alter Version, and that was sad, but it was still epic. |
| The question was directed to both since you said only VN readers would care :p But mostly Fai because he's the one most opposed to changing the OST. Agreed about the fight. It was the most anticipated fight so I was expecting a different track, but nope, Battle to the Strong it is! It was still epic as hell though, I love that track. |
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| I want Yuki Kajiura versions of the original themes. |
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Bohnenbrot said: I want Yuki Kajiura versions of the original themes. >Kajiura version of This Illusion >Kajiura version of Emiya >Kajiura version of Mighty Wind Please no. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: Why not? o.oBohnenbrot said: I want Yuki Kajiura versions of the original themes. >Kajiura version of This Illusion >Kajiura version of Emiya >Kajiura version of Mighty Wind Please no. caperock said: Uhhh.. sure I guess.Yuki Kajiura collaborating with Two Steps From Hell would be awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASj81daun5Q |
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Botato said: BloodRequiem said: Why not? o.oBohnenbrot said: I want Yuki Kajiura versions of the original themes. >Kajiura version of This Illusion >Kajiura version of Emiya >Kajiura version of Mighty Wind Please no. Isn't it self-explanatory? Replace every guitar in the last two with a overdrawn chorus. Epicness gone. I am pretty sure she already did Mighty Wind and it was called Ship of Fools. Sorry, I do not want Mighty Wind to sound like that. This illusion might sound decent under her, but only if the exact same vocalist is retained(and frankly I hope its not the OP again and we get something fresh to differentiate the DEEN fail-adaptation from this. Just use the disillusion in the epilogue if its fate route, that would be quite fitting. I want new FSN's op to be overblown, with huge animation budget and beyond epic music choice(you know how in DEEN's FSN past certain point pretty much only the second OP was what I had fond memories, what a fucking bait-and-switch that OP was :/, oh look at all the VN things we will NEVER use, here have latex sakura instead), so I would not decide to skip it when I watch) ssjokg said: Fai said: no but seriously every type moon work has certain style of ost for action - Fate/Zero is overly-fatalistic because the conclusion is pre-set from the start. - KnK is mystical, with Budhism motifs, with sense of wonder through twisted reality, rebuilding your self etc. Fate/Zero type of kalafina work would outright not fit FSN thematics in the opening. Because composers never try to match their work with the atmosphere of the series they work on... Pretty sure that the difference you showed ,if it even exists, between FZ and KnK, shows that they can create different styles. And please, it is more personal preference than "atmosphere" and thematics. Pretty sure that whether they use "The battle is to the Strong" or "Light and Darkness" in HF's last last fight, the only ones that would care are VN readers. Prove me that post-trc Kajiura Yuki can create something that does not involve gothic choruses and doom and gloom? Something that sounds genuinely positive, badass and not overblown and dramatic? She's still great at what it does, but I do not want "EMIYA - Kajiura Yuki version". Whatever her involvement is she has to create NEW Music instead of remixing VN stuff. If VN stuff has to be used, it has to be used with fitting faithfulness, as in, how Prisma Illya OST did t. Botato said: I don't think that's enough to convince Fai. But I have to ask, do you want the VN's tracks because they fit, and believe that they can't make equally fitting music? Or because you're used to the scenes with those particular tracks? Because I honestly do not believe that, if its Kajiura Yuki, her versions would be better and not inferior, thematically-different. I'd rather she create something new and original than try to remix something that is not her style. |
AhenshihaelMay 15, 2014 11:55 PM
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Fai said: Isn't it self-explanatory? Replace every guitar in the last two with a overdrawn chorus. Epicness gone. I am pretty sure she already did Mighty Wind and it was called Ship of Fools. Sorry, I do not want Mighty Wind to sound like that. This illusion might sound decent under her, but only if the exact same vocalist is retained(and frankly I hope its not the OP again and we get something fresh to differentiate the DEEN fail-adaptation from this. Just use the disillusion in the epilogue if its fate route, that would be quite fitting. I want new FSN's op to be overblown, with huge animation budget and beyond epic music choice(you know how in DEEN's FSN past certain point pretty much only the second OP was what I had fond memories, what a fucking bait-and-switch that OP was :/, oh look at all the VN things we will NEVER use, here have latex sakura instead), so I would not decide to skip it when I watch) I may be biased here, because I like choir, but I think it would make it more epic than take away the epicness. And that one doesn't sound too bad : Ah the second OP.. I remember the rage I had when I saw Fai said: She's still great at what it does, but I do not want "EMIYA - Kajiura Yuki version". Whatever her involvement is she has to create NEW Music instead of remixing VN stuff. If VN stuff has to be used, it has to be used with fitting faithfulness, as in, how Prisma Illya OST did t. You might find something if you go through every track she's done after trc. But seriously, that means nothing if she's involved in the remake. She might make an all new OST in her usual style, or try to 'fit' with the theme of F/SN, or remix old tracks with her style, or... etc. Even if she almost always uses the same style, what you're saying is a very reasonable assumption, but not a fact. Who knows, the OST might blow your mind :p Fai said: Botato said: I don't think that's enough to convince Fai. But I have to ask, do you want the VN's tracks because they fit, and believe that they can't make equally fitting music? Or because you're used to the scenes with those particular tracks? Because I honestly do not believe that, if its Kajiura Yuki, her versions would be better and not inferior, thematically-different. I'd rather she create something new and original than try to remix something that is not her style. You have little faith then :P I honestly think she can pull it off, but who knows. |
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Botato said: I may be biased here, because I like choir, but I think it would make it more epic than take away the epicness. And that one doesn't sound too bad : Choruses fit "oh my god pompei is about to be flattened by a volcano" type of epic. NOT "I love swords, let's recreate that space battle from battlestar galactica with them in the sky while we fight on the ground and I keep asking you thoroughly badass rhetorical questions about sword amounts" type of epic. I could see it be used in the darker moments FSN is a "rebuild from the tragedy" kind of path, not a fatalistic medieval legend. . |
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| But then it's still based mostly on subjective opinions. Also, I can understand saying a F/0 like OST not fitting, but not saying the composer herself is unfit. I mean, not all her tracks are fatalistic like that. Madoka's OST for example had a better variety than F/0. |
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Botato said: But then it's still based mostly on subjective opinions. Also, I can understand saying a F/0 like OST not fitting, but not saying the composer herself is unfit. I mean, not all her tracks are fatalistic like that. Madoka's OST for example had a better variety than F/0. Madoka's both the ost and the narrative is fatalistic as fuck(considering its basically Faust the Anime mixed with Heavenly Comedy) up until the moment of the redemption |
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