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Aug 10, 2009 3:35 PM

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AirStyles said:
Surprises? All I'm seeing is Kagebunshin, Rasengan, Kage Bushin, Rasengan, more kagebunshin, more rasengan, "I gatha use that jutsu" comment over and over and over and over and over and over again in "ONE" fight and none of those hidden technique that they leave us with cliff hanger is going to make a difference in the fight. What's the surprise?
This was my impression too from the Naruto I've seen.

But at least there's one similarity that's easy to spot, both series gets an infraction for suddenly reviving characters or revealing that they weren't dead after all, and both could have been better if they had refrained from such lowly plot devices.
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Baman said:

But at least there's one similarity that's easy to spot, both series gets an infraction for suddenly reviving characters or revealing that they weren't dead after all, and both could have been better if they had refrained from such lowly plot devices.

yes, i still confuse with clannad AS' Ending, but i end it up with a thinking that maybe it was the miracle from that lightning ball or something like that ^^
but despite the quite confusing ending, clannad AS is a cool anime
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setsuna91 said:
Baman said:

But at least there's one similarity that's easy to spot, both series gets an infraction for suddenly reviving characters or revealing that they weren't dead after all, and both could have been better if they had refrained from such lowly plot devices.

yes, i still confuse with clannad AS' Ending, but i end it up with a thinking that maybe it was the miracle from that lightning ball or something like that ^^
but despite the quite confusing ending, clannad AS is a cool anime


That's pretty much the idea. Ignore the girl from another world, they make no impact at all.

Just take it as, Okazaki help others to be happy, starting from Fuuko, to Kotomi, to Nagisa, Tomoyo, Sunohara siblings, Yukine, then ultimately, his own father and Ushio.

After everything he did, he receive the light orb that grant wish, he initially wished that he and Nagisa never met, but after everything he went through, he have no regrets and choose to meet Nagisa. The city love him and grant him a good second chance.
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hmmm correct me if im false, i have some feeling that girl from another world is Ushio, is that right?
cuz she said "Good bye, Daddy" in the end of illusionary world, and some fuko's sight before ending
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setsuna91 said:
hmmm correct me if im false, i have some feeling that girl from another world is Ushio, is that right?
cuz she said "Good bye, Daddy" in the end of illusionary world, and some fuko's sight before ending


Yup, She is Ushio from another world. She'll grow up to be a cute looking teen.

But really, Ushio and robot Okazaki serve very little purpose to the whole story in general.
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owww, that's ushio at teen age eh?wah, kawaiii
i think she will be Nagisa-like in her teenage, cuz her little face is quite like Nagisa Jr. lol ^^

yes, they really have a little meaning in the story(feel depressed about it, i think they should be have more meaning than that ~_~)
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AirStyles said:
Surprises? All I'm seeing is Kagebunshin, Rasengan, Kage Bushin, Rasengan, more kagebunshin, more rasengan, "I gatha use that jutsu" comment over and over and over and over and over and over again in "ONE" fight and none of those hidden technique that they leave us with cliff hanger is going to make a difference in the fight. What's the surprise?
This was my impression too from the Naruto I've seen.

But at least there's one similarity that's easy to spot, both series gets an infraction for suddenly reviving characters or revealing that they weren't dead after all, and both could have been better if they had refrained from such lowly plot devices.


Of course, I have to disagree. I guess your saying the series would have been better if Ushio and Nagisa had died for good. But, to me I thought the ending was wonderful and you give it far to little credit.

So, yeah this is the best series i've seen of it's genre.
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Aug 15, 2009 4:49 AM

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usasoldiern said:
Of course, I have to disagree. I guess your saying the series would have been better if Ushio and Nagisa had died for good. But, to me I thought the ending was wonderful and you give it far to little credit.
I just don't see the point of going all depressive realism only to suddenly make all the hardships and tragedy null and void. Death and tragedy is a powerful tool, but it becomes useless if it's not real and final, and all such tragedies suddenly turned happy endings leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A story ought to follow it's own course properly, whether it leads to tragedy or happiness, but suddenly and inexplicably changing course really doesn't make much sense to me.
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It's a masterpiece, I love it, but I don't think it was the best Anime.
About the ending, I know they just want to make a 'unique' story.
I actually hoped that after Nagisa died, Tomoya would ended up with Kyou, oh well...
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Baman said:
I just don't see the point of going all depressive realism only to suddenly make all the hardships and tragedy null and void. Death and tragedy is a powerful tool, but it becomes useless if it's not real and final, and all such tragedies suddenly turned happy endings leaves a bad taste in my mouth. A story ought to follow it's own course properly, whether it leads to tragedy or happiness, but suddenly and inexplicably changing course really doesn't make much sense to me.

if that's the case, why just think that the series was ended right after Ushio dies
and the next chapter is just a addition lol (nevermind, i just defending Clannad AS xD )
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setsuna91 said:
if that's the case, why just think that the series was ended right after Ushio dies
and the next chapter is just a addition lol (nevermind, i just defending Clannad AS xD )
Well, it would have made more sense if the good ending had been a standalone OVA, like they did with some of the other routes.
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It does make sense if you look at it this way: There has always been a fantasy element to the series since the first episode, with the alternate world and all. It isn't as though the series just suddenly pulled a deus ex machina out of its ass, it was foreshadowed as far back as the first season. If you remember, Tomoya does remember the events during and after Nagisa's death. In a way, it's more tragic because he knows what it feels like to lose the two most important people in his life.
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usasoldiern said:
If you remember, Tomoya does remember the events during and after Nagisa's death. In a way, it's more tragic because he knows what it feels like to lose the two most important people in his life.

so that's why im happy with the ending although the ending sounds fail xD
happy to see Okazaki Family is live happily ever after (^_^)
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Baman said:
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if that's the case, why just think that the series was ended right after Ushio dies
and the next chapter is just a addition lol (nevermind, i just defending Clannad AS xD )
Well, it would have made more sense if the good ending had been a standalone OVA, like they did with some of the other routes.


Some people love a happy ending. As you can see with so many people posting in the last episode, this does indeed seem the case.
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Whatever genre Lotgh is


it raped it
Aug 16, 2009 9:56 PM

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Not really. LoTGH isn't in the same genre as Clannad so its not really comparable.
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If you mean moe garbage, then yeah it's the best garbage.
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Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3
Aug 16, 2009 10:04 PM

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Lol, what happened to Platonic Hearts, VJ and MOD? Did they get outplaced by Clannad AS?
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Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)
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Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)

But I like Clannad... :(
Aug 16, 2009 10:22 PM

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Haylias said:
Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)

But I like Clannad... :(


So do I. But these Clannuts are something different I tell you. Even Clannad fans like me and you will have a hard time reasoning to these people. They are exactly the same as the Geasshats, Gundumbs and TTGL fanboys.
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Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)

But I like Clannad... :(


So do I. But these Clannuts are something different I tell you. Even Clannad fans like me and you will have a hard time reasoning to these people. They are exactly the same as the Geasshats, Gundumbs and TTGL fanboys.

At least they aren't as bad as Big Three fawners and Haruhifags. Now THOSE you have to steer clear of.
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Lol, at the Haruhists. Should put up a sign, beware of haruhists, they bite.
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Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)

But I like Clannad... :(


So do I. But these Clannuts are something different I tell you. Even Clannad fans like me and you will have a hard time reasoning to these people. They are exactly the same as the Geasshats, Gundumbs and TTGL fanboys.


Yeah, some people get crazy with their unwavering devotion to a certain anime. As much as I love this series I don't think it's the best anime ever, just my personal favorite.
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i thought clannad was actually a movie about women telling the whole world about not giving up?
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usasoldiern said:
Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Dexterous said:
Haylias said:
Mario1-7 said:
No Dude you got this topic wrong. Clannad IS the BEST ANIME EVER. This are FACTS.

This is where I stopped reading this thread.

:3


Well, wait till you meet the real Clannuts. Those that go, THIS BEST ANIME EVER! PEOPLE WHO H8 CLANNAD CAN GO TO HELL!!! FUCK YOU HATERZ! (Puts on raging fanboy face)

But I like Clannad... :(


So do I. But these Clannuts are something different I tell you. Even Clannad fans like me and you will have a hard time reasoning to these people. They are exactly the same as the Geasshats, Gundumbs and TTGL fanboys.


Yeah, some people get crazy with their unwavering devotion to a certain anime. As much as I love this series I don't think it's the best anime ever, just my personal favorite.


True that, then again I don't think any anime really can be considered the best ever come to think of it. Only favourites.

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i thought clannad was actually a movie about women telling the whole world about not giving up?


=0 it is. In a way. XD
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Dexterous said:
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if that's the case, why just think that the series was ended right after Ushio dies
and the next chapter is just a addition lol (nevermind, i just defending Clannad AS xD )
Well, it would have made more sense if the good ending had been a standalone OVA, like they did with some of the other routes.


Some people love a happy ending. As you can see with so many people posting in the last episode, this does indeed seem the case.


Afterall, the reason why i love clanand AS' happy ending was just because i want to see how the okazaki family lived up together, they seems like happiest and warmest family in the world
even they lived in a simple apartment and not rich
i envy that :3
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Hmm....

Well i believe this anime tried something other animes would never dare to try.... they sacrificed so much humor for emotions...

so i guess this anime isn't your typical comedy type... and isn't designed to make you laugh. So it isn't fair if you rate its comedy alone.

Although i have to admit the giant deus ex machina at the end made it bad.... but then again has such an ending been performed before? i mean, 2 deaths plus suffering.... it isn't easy to put a sad ending to that and make the ending beautiful.

In my opinion, too many people passed on to make sad ending. Thats why the script used the giant deus ex machina. I guess to those professional producers, it was the only way to go about that problem.

I mean, their paid cash so i guess they had to have a reason for such an ending.
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Hmm....

Well i believe this anime tried something other animes would never dare to try.... they sacrificed so much humor for emotions...

so i guess this anime isn't your typical comedy type... and isn't designed to make you laugh. So it isn't fair if you rate its comedy alone.

Although i have to admit the giant deus ex machina at the end made it bad.... but then again has such an ending been performed before? i mean, 2 deaths plus suffering.... it isn't easy to put a sad ending to that and make the ending beautiful.

In my opinion, too many people passed on to make sad ending. Thats why the script used the giant deus ex machina. I guess to those professional producers, it was the only way to go about that problem.

I mean, their paid cash so i guess they had to have a reason for such an ending.


Not really, there were loads of attempts at comedy (yes I do mean attempts) early on in the show, but when it came time for the classic Key dive into the overwrought melodrama that comedic lighthearted tone was rapidly replaced. In my opinion they didn't need either the constant deliberately manipulated depressing atmosphere (which I didn't find poignant or important at all so much as soapy and again, my favourite word to describe all Key works, overwrought), nor the deus ex machina ending to "right it" in order to get across the whole family thing across because they did that just fine in the Ushio arc before Maeda's necessity to have one last forced unnecessary melodramatic twist before the finale corrupted the message. Alas though this is Key/Kyoani we are talking about here and they seem to operate only in extremes that rarely go hand in hand with higher artistic themes. Clannad never finds a balance in much of anything in either of the two seasons so no, I can't really say it's the best of it's genre, whether one wants to classify it as a romance, comedy, drama, slice of life, or whatever.

It would have definitely been better had they ended the series around episode 19, but still not the best of it's genre.
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CLANNAD HAS REACHED RANKED #2!!!
Lets get it to numba ONE!
Change those 9s to 10s! Tell your friends, family, neighbors, pets, ANYBODY.. that Clannad IS the BEST ANIME ever...!
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Change those 9s to 10s! Tell your friends, family, neighbors, pets, ANYBODY.. that Clannad IS the BEST ANIME ever...!


That's cheating... and besides, Clannad don't need to cheat to reach number1 ^_^
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CLANNAD HAS REACHED RANKED #2!!!
Lets get it to numba ONE!
Change those 9s to 10s! Tell your friends, family, neighbors, pets, ANYBODY.. that Clannad IS the BEST ANIME ever...!


I think saying Clannad is the best anime ever is stretching it. And, Airstyles is right, cheating is gay.
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Cheat (verb) - "to violate rules or regulations" -dictionary.com

Spreading the word of how GREAT this anime is, is not even CLOSE to cheating. That kind of thinking is what made this anime so UNDERRATED. There are SO many people out there who do not even know the name of this anime.

People have the choice of listening to me of changing their opinions about Clannad, but I am also asking them to reconsider their rating and think about the anime once again. It doesn't ever hurt in life to "check your answers".

Clannad not being the best anime is YOUR opinion and it being the best is MINE, so I don't think the statement is "stretching" anything. Clannad reaching ranked 2 and having the same score as the ranked 1 anime on this site, means that the majority of this site is rating this anime from a wide range of 8-10. So I am probably not alone about this anime being the best, but probably neither are you.

Maybe it isn't the best anime FOREVER and EVER, but it is the best anime (IMO) up to this date.
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Cheat (verb) - "to violate rules or regulations" -dictionary.com

Spreading the word of how GREAT this anime is, is not even CLOSE to cheating. That kind of thinking is what made this anime so UNDERRATED. There are SO many people out there who do not even know the name of this anime.

People have the choice of listening to me of changing their opinions about Clannad, but I am also asking them to reconsider their rating and think about the anime once again. It doesn't ever hurt in life to "check your answers".

Clannad not being the best anime is YOUR opinion and it being the best is MINE, so I don't think the statement is "stretching" anything. Clannad reaching ranked 2 and having the same score as the ranked 1 anime on this site, means that the majority of this site is rating this anime from a wide range of 8-10. So I am probably not alone about this anime being the best, but probably neither are you.

Maybe it isn't the best anime FOREVER and EVER, but it is the best anime (IMO) up to this date.


You do realize that After Story is at the top of my favorites list, don't you? I do consider it my "favorite" show, but that doesn't mean it's the best.
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I guess cheating is not exactly the right word...

People should just give it an honest vote. Clannad ~AS~ is a phenomenal show, if it reach number 1, it earned it. And I believe it can reach number 1 without extra "work".

the only thing that's stopping it could probably be trolls.

May Clannad ~AS~ finally reach number 1. ^_^
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Lol fanboyism.

Wonder if people realize you can rereg and buff ratings up or down so that you can never really trust these silly rating systems anyway. Saying vote this up or vote this down is mostly just going to result in pushing against an oppositional tide anyway.

"Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem: sive corporum duorum actiones in se mutuo semper esse æquales et in partes contrarias dirigi."

For a force there is always an equal and opposite reaction: or the forces of two bodies on each other are always equal and are directed in opposite directions.

Overrated anime is still overrated by the way.
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That kind of thinking is what made this anime so UNDERRATED.
I would wonder how it could be underrated while being number 2 though.
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Kurogashi said:
CLANNAD HAS REACHED RANKED #2!!!
Lets get it to numba ONE!
Change those 9s to 10s! Tell your friends, family, neighbors, pets, ANYBODY.. that Clannad IS the BEST ANIME ever...!

lol, i already rated it 10, will give 12 if i can =P

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That's cheating... and besides, Clannad don't need to cheat to reach number1 ^_^

agree! =)
some of my friends also a clannad-lovers, and they didn't join MAL yet
so i think clannad AS can reach #1 w/o cheating actually ^_^
Key doesn't pay us to promote clannad so what's intention for being a cheater?? :3
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That kind of thinking is what made this anime so UNDERRATED.
I would wonder how it could be underrated while being number 2 though.


perhaps he's refering to most shonen fans call it bad show without giving it a chance?
Thus he's hoping that after it reaches number 1, more people will watch it. (IMO anyways)

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Lol fanboyism.

Wonder if people realize you can rereg and buff ratings up or down so that you can never really trust these silly rating systems anyway. Saying vote this up or vote this down is mostly just going to result in pushing against an oppositional tide anyway.

"Actioni contrariam semper et æqualem esse reactionem: sive corporum duorum actiones in se mutuo semper esse æquales et in partes contrarias dirigi."

For a force there is always an equal and opposite reaction: or the forces of two bodies on each other are always equal and are directed in opposite directions.

Overrated anime is still overrated by the way.


not surprising to see this from a mecha fan.
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When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"
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When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"


I love my sport, and want to play semi competitively, playing to my heart's extent, and let my talent take me where I go ^_^ (too lazy to train like pro, thus semi competitive)

I love anime, Thus I watch it, let anime show me stories that I can't find anywhere. (It's safe to say it's almost impossible to find anything similar to Rozen maiden, Ghost Hunt, Clannad or Ga-Rei Zero in other medias.)

That is who I am, as a Clannad fan and as a person ^_^


I wonder what people who think they're above us are like? I know one that watches more hentai and porn then me, who's bad at sport and play WoW(World of Warcraft) at an extremely high level, call me a lolicon geek in front of a whole group of friends... =_=

EDIT: I convinced one of my friend to watch Clannad, currently he loved the show and is now downloading HD ^_^ Success!!!!!
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AirStyles said:

EDIT: I convinced one of my friend to watch Clannad, currently he loved the show and is now downloading HD ^_^ Success!!!!!

Nice Job! ^^
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The plot was predictable and boring.

Might sound weird but I actually liked the first season's comedy more than the AS plot.

AS was too similar to Key's other works like the dying character then the predictable miracle that happens when they return good as new (except Air, that was lots better than Clannad).

And the characters...>_> Most are standard fare aren't really that interesting either, none that you haven't seen in most other harem/romance/school animes a million times over. There were a few interesting characters like Tomoyo or Kotomi because they weren't so common.

BUT: Clannad saves itself by not just being good at one thing but being good at all parts, sure it isn't the best in every genre it fills but it is good for what it is.

If you don't like tl;drs then basically, Clannad isn't the best anime of its genre but it's still good.
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When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"


When you say, "This is my top favourite show of all time and nothing I've seen can compare to it" that is fandom.

When you say, "This is the greatest show of all time and it needs to be proven by getting it recognized as #1 on this site" that is fanboyism along with a severe lack of confidence in ones own choice of viewership. If you truly love something you shouldn't have to prove it to anyone unless you're love is warped by a sense that there needs to be a competition in which case....fanboyism.
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Kurogashi said:
When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"


When you say, "This is my top favourite show of all time and nothing I've seen can compare to it" that is fandom.

When you say, "This is the greatest show of all time and it needs to be proven by getting it recognized as #1 on this site" that is fanboyism along with a severe lack of confidence in ones own choice of viewership. If you truly love something you shouldn't have to prove it to anyone unless you're love is warped by a sense that there needs to be a competition in which case....fanboyism.


not quite.... He/She is just stating that is the best show he/she ever watched. And he/she just wished that more people watch/knew about it.

I don't really know the definition for fanboyism, but as long as no one say

"OMG THIS IS DA BEST EVER! ALL OTHER SUCK!!! NOTHING CAN COMPARE TO IT!!! NEVER!!!"
that, for me is the true definition of fanboyism.

for me, I still find Clannad ~AS~ to be the best anime I've ever watched. (And deep down, I am really hoping everyone would watch this show, to add to that, I am also this show to get it's place in 1st on MAL) Is that fanboyism?
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AirStyles said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
Kurogashi said:
When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"


When you say, "This is my top favourite show of all time and nothing I've seen can compare to it" that is fandom.

When you say, "This is the greatest show of all time and it needs to be proven by getting it recognized as #1 on this site" that is fanboyism along with a severe lack of confidence in ones own choice of viewership. If you truly love something you shouldn't have to prove it to anyone unless you're love is warped by a sense that there needs to be a competition in which case....fanboyism.


not quite.... He/She is just stating that is the best show he/she ever watched. And he/she just wished that more people watch/knew about it.

I don't really know the definition for fanboyism, but as long as no one say

"OMG THIS IS DA BEST EVER! ALL OTHER SUCK!!! NOTHING CAN COMPARE TO IT!!! NEVER!!!"
that, for me is the true definition of fanboyism.

for me, I still find Clannad ~AS~ to be the best anime I've ever watched. (And deep down, I am really hoping everyone would watch this show, to add to that, I am also this show to get it's place in 1st on MAL) Is that fanboyism?


Reccing it to others is fine but you don't need to go as far to vote 10s just to raise it up. Also: fanboyism doesn't always mean going to extreme lengths to prove you like the show, to me, it's just someone who's a little more than a fan and they would stick up for what they like.
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I honestly think Clannad is a perfect anime. With chemistry between characters, individuality, and development. It's my all time favorite anime. I had looked at it and heard about it but could never watch it because I disliked the animation (shallow). But I just gave in and decided to give it another shot and it ended up being my favorite anime. Also, only because of Clannad could I watch the messy Kanon, but still can't watch Air for some reason.

It's one of the few animes that I can go back and watch a random episode, and laugh or cry like it's the first time I seen it.

And I do go back to C:AS episode 18 and 22 for a nice cry, because it's so beautiful.

I think I'll go watch the last episode for the millionth time.
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-Shio said:
AirStyles said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
Kurogashi said:
When I say UNDERRATED, I am talking about how the majority of anime viewers are into shonen and that is why I think Clannad and its genre is underrated. This doesn't just apply to the people on "MAL". MAL is a very small group of people. None of my friends evenhave a MAL account. So number 2 here doesn't mean much. (IMO)

Many of my friends also don't even touch animes like Clannad and this goes for both genders (so don't think fanBOYism) and for those who do watch this genre, they never even heard of Clannad. So yeah, AirStyles is right at what I was trying to get at.

Oh and when you say "fanboyism", I find the logic extremely stupid. Doesn't everybody have their own interests? Whether it be.. sports, school, what ever, we all express our ways towards it. Things that make us happy are things that we love.

I'm not sure if you understand what I am trying to get at but think about Lucky Star and Konota. She's a otaku but she is proud of it and to me, that is why I like that type of chracter. People who are proud of what they do will be the most "sucessful" in life. BUT when I see someone TRYING to insult other's interests, they need a reality check and ask themselves, "what do you love?"


When you say, "This is my top favourite show of all time and nothing I've seen can compare to it" that is fandom.

When you say, "This is the greatest show of all time and it needs to be proven by getting it recognized as #1 on this site" that is fanboyism along with a severe lack of confidence in ones own choice of viewership. If you truly love something you shouldn't have to prove it to anyone unless you're love is warped by a sense that there needs to be a competition in which case....fanboyism.


not quite.... He/She is just stating that is the best show he/she ever watched. And he/she just wished that more people watch/knew about it.

I don't really know the definition for fanboyism, but as long as no one say

"OMG THIS IS DA BEST EVER! ALL OTHER SUCK!!! NOTHING CAN COMPARE TO IT!!! NEVER!!!"
that, for me is the true definition of fanboyism.

for me, I still find Clannad ~AS~ to be the best anime I've ever watched. (And deep down, I am really hoping everyone would watch this show, to add to that, I am also this show to get it's place in 1st on MAL) Is that fanboyism?


Reccing it to others is fine but you don't need to go as far to vote 10s just to raise it up. Also: fanboyism doesn't always mean going to extreme lengths to prove you like the show, to me, it's just someone who's a little more than a fan and they would stick up for what they like.


I've rated it a 10 because. Honestly, it's still the best anime I've ever seen, the only other anime that receive a 10 from me is Shigofumi, while Ghost Hunt comes very close.
I did not rate it 10 to raise it up.
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for me, I still find Clannad ~AS~ to be the best anime I've ever watched. (And deep down, I am really hoping everyone would watch this show, to add to that, I am also this show to get it's place in 1st on MAL) Is that fanboyism?


Moreso bizarre reasoning. If your only goal is to get random people to notice it more by hyping it up or ranking it up on some sight then okay, but there's like zero guarantee that they'll actually come to like it and it could end up resulting in negative word of mouth to their friends if it doesn't live up to the immense hype just the same as it could positive word of mouth. Though if you are absolutely convinced in some universal appeal or perfection inherent to Clannad that's probably not a worry for you. Just fair warning though, the pandoras box is kind of open right now as far as people being wary of hyped up Kyoani shows. A better time for what you are trying to do would have been when the show aired.
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