| Bugdet. A company/studio may do incredibly well with one series but incredibly bad with another because of the budget for the separate series. Example? Magi and Vivdred Operation by A-1. When I think duration I think the type of anime, movie vs TV series. In which case, comes back to the budget, which movies usually have higher budget. |
Paul said: Bugdet. A company/studio may do incredibly well with one series but incredibly bad with another because of the budget for the separate series. Example? Magi and Vivdred Operation by A-1. ^ This |
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| Just look at Neon Genesis Evangelion; the obvious factor (lack of rather) is there. |
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Burna said: Yup, this is the inevitability of all anime sadlyPaul said: Bugdet. A company/studio may do incredibly well with one series but incredibly bad with another because of the budget for the separate series. Example? Magi and Vivdred Operation by A-1. ^ This |
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gargS said: Tavor said: Just look at Neon Genesis Evangelion; the obvious factor (lack of rather) is there. You mean low budget ? Yep! At least what I read about it said that was the case, which makes sense of course. |
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| Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? |
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Tavor said: gargS said: Tavor said: Just look at Neon Genesis Evangelion; the obvious factor (lack of rather) is there. You mean low budget ? Yep! At least what I read about it said that was the case, which makes sense of course. That's what happened, the lack of budged was the reason for the last to horrendous episodes (if you can even call them that). So yeah, budget, you need a good team of course, but a good animation team without a budget can't do much. |
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crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? |
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Javera said: Yeah the anime will always stay popular and they can make the most money making movies. The movies not only sell out theaters and break records, they also boost the manga sales by a lot.crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? |
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| Is it just me, or has the studio Bones always had quality animation in every single series they've made. Throughout Brotherhood and Soul Eater, i thought the animation was very top notch, detailed and varied. |
natssuu said: Ability called sight I wait for a day that we can use our sense of smell on the anime visual medium. But alas. |
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Sami092 said: Is it just me, or has the studio Bones always had quality animation in every single series they've made. Throughout Brotherhood and Soul Eater, i thought the animation was very top notch, detailed and varied. Darker than Black especially, they're just elites. |
natssuu said: Sami092 said: Is it just me, or has the studio Bones always had quality animation in every single series they've made. Throughout Brotherhood and Soul Eater, i thought the animation was very top notch, detailed and varied. Darker than Black especially, they're just elites. I remember several derp faces in Eureka Seven Ao. Not sure if changed in the DVD/BD release. |
Jovoo said: Tavor said: gargS said: Tavor said: Just look at Neon Genesis Evangelion; the obvious factor (lack of rather) is there. You mean low budget ? Yep! At least what I read about it said that was the case, which makes sense of course. That's what happened, the lack of budged was the reason for the last to horrendous episodes (if you can even call them that). So yeah, budget, you need a good team of course, but a good animation team without a budget can't do much. Makes me ever so curious to what Anno would of done differently at that current time with a proper budget. |
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Javera said: crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. |
jal90 said: Because it will always be their cash cow, the ratings won't drop becuase of art quality. So they focus on the movies, the movies make billions of yen, break records, and boost up manga sales by a lot.Javera said: crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. |
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IntroverTurtle said: jal90 said: Because it will always be their cash cow, the ratings won't drop becuase of art quality. So they focus on the movies, the movies make billions of yen, break records, and boost up manga sales by a lot.Javera said: crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. Yep, I guess that's how it will be. The problem actually is not that it hasn't been improved, the problem is that it has been quite drastically worsened. I wouldn't be complaining if there was the similar low effort in the entire series but it seems instead the show gets more and more abandoned. I know the ratings won't drop, but it seems they don't even want to catch new viewers anymore. |
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jal90 said: Well there's been a lot of specials lately, Glorious Island, Hand island were aired right before Z, the nami special wasn't that long ago. They don't need to catch new viewers with the tv series, all the higher rated shows are the older staple of Japan shows(like Sazea and chibi maruko) and the movies can get new viewers(because they are a seperate story, faster to watch, better art, etc).IntroverTurtle said: jal90 said: Because it will always be their cash cow, the ratings won't drop becuase of art quality. So they focus on the movies, the movies make billions of yen, break records, and boost up manga sales by a lot.Javera said: crosby_87 said: Your forgetting they have to divide their budget between other projects.Shouldn't one piece then have one of the best animation considering how popular the show is? I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. Yep, I guess that's how it will be. The problem actually is not that it hasn't been improved, the problem is that it has been quite drastically worsened. I wouldn't be complaining if there was the similar low effort in the entire series but it seems instead the show gets more and more abandoned. I know the ratings won't drop, but it seems they don't even want to catch new viewers anymore. |
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gargS said: Paul said: natssuu said: Sami092 said: Is it just me, or has the studio Bones always had quality animation in every single series they've made. Throughout Brotherhood and Soul Eater, i thought the animation was very top notch, detailed and varied. Darker than Black especially, they're just elites. I remember several derp faces in Eureka Seven Ao. Not sure if changed in the DVD/BD release. I am asking this out of curiosity but from what you are saying, is it true by anyhow that studios redraw the scenes in the DVD/BD release. Just asking. Yea, there are many shows where the company fixes animation errors. I believe Shaft fixed several of them in Bakemonogatari like extra fingers and stuff. Although it doesn't mean even every company/producer do. |
| Budget, pixels, your eyes, etc... jal90 said: I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. FI had some very well done environments and the anime is alread in PH, how is it dragged out?. As for the drawing and animation, some examples may help. |
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| I have a feeling that another factor are deadlines. If a company is tight on time, of course they will cut corners in order to hand in something. While I haven't seen it, I've heard that the backgrounds in Madoka Magica are much more detailed in the BD release than when it first aired, leading me to believe they were short on time with some stuff so corners were cut and fixed it for the BD release. |
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BatoKusanagi said: Budget, pixels, your eyes, etc... jal90 said: I don't think that really applies, specially when the level of drawing and animation has gone downhill lately (and when I say lately, I mean in the last 150 episodes or so, so yep, it's serious), and the stuff is insanely dragged out. It is their cash cow, I can't see how this makes convenient to let the quality of the show get worse. Damn, it's the second time I seriously criticize One Piece in just a few minutes. I feel dirty as a fanboy. FI had some very well done environments and the anime is alread in PH, how is it dragged out?. As for the drawing and animation, some examples may help. I think the last filler arc made a great example of drawing issues; serious problems of perspective*, bad or inconsistant character designs (the drawing of the Straw Hats, take for example Nami). In terms of animation: a good example comes with FI. Not really because of lack of fluidity itself (also, to an extent), but due to the overuse of still frames in every moment. The scenes where the citizens were *supposed* to be running where either presented in that way or animated in a ridiculously clumsy way. I know One Piece has always had its issues but lately it has been showing lots of these lately. * |
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