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Nov 10, 2010 2:52 AM
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MorningGlory said:
haha First of all, people who mimic stuff(like killing or raping) in media has mental problem or lack of self consciousness.

Or are just naive kids who didn't know any better, which is what the OP is about, isn't it? Or was I mistaken.
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OminousFlare said:
MorningGlory said:
haha First of all, people who mimic stuff(like killing or raping) in media has mental problem or lack of self consciousness.

Or are just naive kids who didn't know any better, which is what the OP is about, isn't it? Or was I mistaken.
Well, what can I say. Not all kids/teenager has proper mind.Sometimes even a small matter like pressure in school/fail in exam can cause children to kill their own parent. should we abolish those as well?
We could blame the parent for this behavior if nothing else to blame
Nov 10, 2010 2:59 AM

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So you're saying naive kids who watch rape porn or watch robocop are likely to go out and rape / shoot people up, because they don't know any better?

Reminds me of the James Bulger case, two 10 year old boys attacked and killed James Bulger in the same style as Chucky films. Naive? No. Upon release one of the lovely fellows was charged with drug abuse and owning child pornography. If you're screwed up, you're screwed up.
Nov 10, 2010 3:00 AM
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MorningGlory said:
Sometimes even a small matter like pressure in school/fail in exam can cause children to kill their own parent. should we abolish those as well?

I couldn't say much for how influential pressure in school/failed exam has on kids compared to pornography, but, if pornography/violent videogames didn't exist, that'd sure Hell cause one less problem to worry about, now wouldn't it?

BakaKawaii said:
Reminds me of the James Bulger case, two 10 year old boys attacked and killed James Bulger in the same style as Chucky films. Naive? No. Upon release one of the lovely fellows was charged with drug abuse and owning child pornography. If you're screwed up, you're screwed up.

That's a standalone case. We are talking about non-psychos here.
Nov 10, 2010 3:00 AM

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Because rape and violence didn't exist before porn/games.
No output for those who actually have the urges and quell them by watching / playing said things. Removing these things would cause more harm than help, I think.

OminousFlare said:

That's a standalone case. We are talking about non-psychos here.


And only psychos would go as far as you're saying. Only psychos would rape just because they saw it in a porn, only psychos would kill because they saw it in a game.
Nov 10, 2010 3:02 AM
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BakaKawaii said:
Because rape and violence didn't exist before porn/games.

No, the games just greatly remind kids about those immoral crimes. Immoral to us, of course, because rape is just rape in videogames/porn. Kids aren't blatantly told they are immoral.
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OminousFlare said:
MorningGlory said:
Sometimes even a small matter like pressure in school/fail in exam can cause children to kill their own parent. should we abolish those as well?

I couldn't say much for how influential pressure in school/failed exam has on kids compared to pornography, but, if pornography/violent videogames didn't exist, that'd sure Hell cause one less problem to worry about, now wouldn't it?

I have one solution for you, and this has invented thousand year ago and it still practice nowadays.

See no evil ,hear no evil, speak no evil
Nov 10, 2010 3:06 AM

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OminousFlare said:

No, the games just greatly remind kids about those immoral crimes. Immoral to us, of course, because rape is just rape in videogames/porn. Kids aren't blatantly told they are immoral.


By the time they're able to get ahold of said porn, they'll be told about how immoral it is, either by the news or their parents.
I wonder how many pre pubescent children rape people.
Nov 10, 2010 3:08 AM
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BakaKawaii said:
No output for those who actually have the urges and quell them by watching / playing said things. Removing these things would cause more harm than help, I think.

Well, like you said, you think. We won't ever know if that would hold true today.

BakaKawaii said:
And only psychos would go as far as you're saying. Only psychos would rape just because they saw it in a porn, only psychos would kill because they saw it in a game.

Hence, sane people would do that to a lesser extent. I believe that aspects of psychotics are somewhat within each of us as well, considering it's still human nature. We 'sane people' are just conscious enough to restrain that nature.

MorningGlory said:
I have one solution for you, and this has invented thousand year ago and it still practice nowadays.

See no evil ,hear no evil, speak no evil

If the whole world actually works like that, then sign me up.

BakaKawaii said:
By the time they're able to get ahold of said porn, they'll be told about how immoral it is, either by the news or their parents.

That's your presumption, not a fact.

BakaKawaii said:
I wonder how many pre pubescent children rape people.

As I wrote, not rape - just acts of lesser extents, such as 'ignorant touching'.
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OminousFlare said:

Well, like you said, you think. We won't ever know if that would hold true today.


Hence, sane people would do that to a lesser extent. I believe that aspects of psychotics are somewhat within each of us as well, considering it's still human nature. We 'sane people' are just conscious enough to restrain that nature.



Well it's a hell of a lot better than taking it away completely, no output means it'll be more likely to happen. Take away drugs from an addict cold turkey and they'll suffer withdrawel, in this case withdrawel is rape.

What's the lesser extent of rape? Asking for permission then being super rough?
Nov 10, 2010 3:18 AM
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BakaKawaii said:
Well it's a hell of a lot better than taking it away completely, no output means it'll be more likely to happen. Take away drugs from an addict cold turkey and they'll suffer withdrawel, in this case withdrawel is rape.

Again, this is taking people already knowledgeable about the 'inner-going-ons' of rape into consideration. They've got to know about how 'fun' it is before it'd become addictive. Any potential rape fan with no knowledge of rape entertainment as of yet could remain uninterested - partially or otherwise - by rape much more than after they are presented it in an entertaining manner. In which case, rape pornography.

BakaKawaii said:
What's the lesser extent of rape? Asking for permission then being super rough?

Molestation, perhaps? "I'm a kid, and I want to find out why those men in the show touch girls' chests."
Nov 10, 2010 3:20 AM
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talking about prohibition.

when the alcohol is been prohibited, the situation gone even worse.Mafia,increase of death in street ,black market.....

I wonder what happen if hentai is banned ....well if you can't see people fucking each other, might as well find a pretty girl in the alley and fuck the real thing.
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MorningGlory said:
talking about prohibition.

when the alcohol is been prohibited, the situation gone even worse.Mafia,increase of death in street ,black market.....

I wonder what happen if hentai is banned ....well if you can't see people fucking each other, might as well find a pretty girl in the alley and fuck the real thing.

Read above post about 'you've got to know how fun it is first' before you're addicted to it.' That's why there's censorship, to make sure the less mature audience wouldn't take the 'fun stuff' in a wrong way.
Nov 10, 2010 3:39 AM

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Again, you're making it seem like there was no rape before rape porn. People who never saw said porn and just decide "I feel like being in total control, yo, rape time".

But cool, kids molesting people because they saw it in the shadow box.
Nov 10, 2010 3:48 AM
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OminousFlare said:
' That's why there's censorship, to make sure the less mature audience wouldn't take the 'fun stuff' in a wrong way.
Actually you can buy the DvD version and there is no censor in it...
From my opinion, Censorship is more into business strategy than restriction.It gives you the feeling of "its not original".
Nov 10, 2010 4:24 AM

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Censorship is rather annoying. In the UK they censor 18 rated dvds, now you're paying for the whole product but they edit and cut it out, not right.
Nov 10, 2010 4:42 AM
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^ maybe your country is trying to promote piracy. LoL.you can download BD/DvD version in torrent nowadays.I stop buying original when they start cencoring the word "fcuk" . ><
There is a chance that sometimes Censorship may promote rape .but of course,you won't see these in the news.
Nov 10, 2010 4:44 AM

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Naw, most cases it's violence or a sex scene.
The one's I'm looking at are my Arnie dvds </3 I buy them, watch them and see that they cut some scenes out, in turn I download the American full versions, take that hollywood!
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BakaKawaii said:
Again, you're making it seem like there was no rape before rape porn. People who never saw said porn and just decide "I feel like being in total control, yo, rape time".

True, but the point I'm making is, there's no reason to promote rape as an entertainment item, less it does have the unproven effects of influence.

As you said, there is rape before rape porn. So there shouldn't be something like rape porn to spread the propaganda of "You could get away with rape." Sure, any rational citizen should be able to know otherwise (that rape is wrong, that you could not get away with it, etc.), but simply having an idea like that put into your head... I just don't like it - whether it's accurately immoral, pure entertainment, or otherwise.
Nov 10, 2010 5:50 AM

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its actually so icky just hearing this..

kids lust nowadays are terrible! they might get preggy their girlfriend or the most terrible is to have lust with incestuous relationship.

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Nov 10, 2010 6:25 AM

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No, no and no! In hentais exists a wrong image about sex (p.ex. man is master, woman is slave -.-) and I don't think that kids or younger teens understand this. Probably, they think it's the normal way of sexuality. In my eyes, it's terrible!
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Zakurochan said:
No, no and no! In hentais exists a wrong image about sex (p.ex. man is master, woman is slave -.-) and I don't think that kids or younger teens understand this. Probably, they think it's the normal way of sexuality. In my eyes, it's terrible!


It would be terrible if it wasn't true, women should bow before the power of manhood.
Nov 10, 2010 9:02 AM

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Hm I guess it's wrong and they should not watch it but unfortunately nowadays there's no way to avoid it. If I have to choose I'd like them to watch normal porn :D

I assume that everyone here has watched at least one episode of hentai and we know how hardcore it can be - rape , slaves , tentacles , other monsters etc. Watching sth like this is going to make them try it in real life which can be a little bit dangerous :D
Nov 10, 2010 9:21 AM

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Kasumisty said:

Oh boy,here we are again. D: This topic is not about sexism,just so ya know.

Anyways,I voted for "it is wrong, but it's normal too..."


But rape laws are sexist : o
On that note: I voted "nothing wrong with that", because there is nothing wrong with it.
Nov 10, 2010 10:14 AM

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The rape hentai/pornography gives such a twisted and distorted picture of sex and of gender roles that it makes me question humanity's sanity.......it pretty much promotes rape and ,because of the influence of pornography humanity regressed into sex crazed animals and since we all have grown up in an era where sex=business and profit and thus bring us to question rather if its right or wrong or in a state of denial of thinking its not twisted at all.....

Man....I LOVE controversial topics they're fun LOLs

I hope I contributed to this discussion XD
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OminousFlare said:

That's your presumption, not a fact.


That's ironic coming from somebody who's as ignorant as you and thinks somebody will rape somebody just because it was in porn. If that happened they were already fucked up to begin with. Nobody gets influenced to commit crimes just because they see it in a media. People do not murder people just because they see it in a video game, movie, read about it in a book, or anime. Same with porn. They will not rape somebody just because they saw it in a porn. Besides kids wouldn't even be watching porn because they would have no access to it unless you mean older kids such as 10-12.

etchel said:
its actually so icky just hearing this..

kids lust nowadays are terrible! they might get preggy their girlfriend or the most terrible is to have lust with incestuous relationship.


This post made me lol. I assume you mean teens when you said "get a girl pregnant" Teens are not that stupid and they sure as hell wouldn't have list with an incestuous relationship just because of hentai.

Zakurochan said:
No, no and no! In hentais exists a wrong image about sex (p.ex. man is master, woman is slave -.-) and I don't think that kids or younger teens understand this. Probably, they think it's the normal way of sexuality. In my eyes, it's terrible!


Teens are not that stupid.

negativedemyx said:
The rape hentai/pornography gives such a twisted and distorted picture of sex and of gender roles that it makes me question humanity's sanity.......it pretty much promotes rape and ,because of the influence of pornography humanity regressed into sex crazed animals and since we all have grown up in an era where sex=business and profit and thus bring us to question rather if its right or wrong or in a state of denial of thinking its not twisted at all.....

Man....I LOVE controversial topics they're fun LOLs

I hope I contributed to this discussion XD


How the fuck does porn promote rape?
Nov 10, 2010 11:18 AM

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Drunk_Samurai said:
How the fuck does porn promote rape?


Im gonna assume you havent watched much Hentai XD
Nov 10, 2010 11:39 AM

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Heart_of_Storm said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
How the fuck does porn promote rape?


Im gonna assume you havent watched much Hentai XD


yeah........I'm gonna assume the same LOLs
Nov 10, 2010 11:45 AM

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It promotes rape just as much as war films promote killing.
Or as much as I am Sam promoted retardation.
Nov 10, 2010 11:53 AM

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BakaKawaii said:
It promotes rape just as much as war films promote killing.
Or as much as I am Sam promoted retardation.


......WIN
Nov 10, 2010 12:04 PM

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I voted for the 2nd one...but I guess...it's ok if you watch sometimes but not to make an obssesion, to become a hentai freak >.< LOL :|


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BakaKawaii said:
It promotes rape just as much as war films promote killing.


Most war films condemn killing, not promote it :/
It's pretty rare to find a war film that shows killing in a good, positive light.
Nov 10, 2010 12:46 PM

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Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(
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BakaKawaii said:
Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.
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OminousFlare said:
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Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.


Can't help but LOL at Drunk_Samurai's post's dude hahaha
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OminousFlare said:
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Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.


You're only going to ignore them because you know I'm right. Pretty pathetic there, bro.
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OminousFlare said:
BakaKawaii said:
Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.


You're only going to ignore them because you know I'm right. Pretty pathetic there, bro.
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OminousFlare said:
BakaKawaii said:
Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.


You're only going to ignore them because you know I'm right. Pretty pathetic there, bro.
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OminousFlare said:
BakaKawaii said:
Ah sorry, I should've ended that post with /sarcasm.
I thought the retardation bit would've made it through though :(

Not everyone knows what "I am Sam" is, since they're not all, oh, I don't know, American.

And I'm just gonna totally ignore Drunk_Samurai's retarded posts from now on.


You're only going to ignore them because you know I'm right. Pretty pathetic there, bro.
Nov 10, 2010 8:43 PM

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......how are you in ANY way right tell me give a LOGICAL response dude.
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negativedemyx said:
......how are you in ANY way right tell me give a LOGICAL response dude.


You obviously never read this post: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=57467&show=320#msg9896383
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Pretty pathetic there, bro.

Says the guy who just quartet posted! XDDDDDDD

Karma, dude. Karma. It doesn't agree with your logic.

With that said, I'm going to ignore this thread from now on; the heated conflict gives me heartburn, and I really don't want to prove my views right for a bunch of conceited jerks assuming themselves as the masters of the Internet.

Oh, and Drunk_Samurai, it was obviously not because you were right that I chose to ignore you. With my last post here, my last statement of defense would be that it's retarded or psychotic to deny that there's something wrong with rape porn and pornography. I didn't say it induces rape, only that it influences it further. I hope you read my post properly this time.
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Did read the post dude I say that nothing can change the fact that can give off influence and cultivate desires and thus can possiblyLEAD to these actions so with that being said you can't tell me thats not true nonetheless I'll RESPECTFULLY disagree with you.
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Drunk_Samurai said:


This post made me lol. I assume you mean teens when you said "get a girl pregnant" Teens are not that stupid and they sure as hell wouldn't have list with an incestuous relationship just because of hentai.



lol, I myself was loling when I posted this.. we're not sure about my post but that's because many artist produces hentai that is incest. I know its only a mere fiction but some of the teen's minds are too obsessed..

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negativedemyx said:
......how are you in ANY way right tell me give a LOGICAL response dude.


Really? So you agree that kids watching said porn go out and molest people?
Because sane people are influenced by a lesser extent to go out and molest people.
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Even though there are some people who will be so influenced by a form of media that they will go out and perform the same act they saw, those individuals already have a problem and it would probably happen sooner or later regardless. I understand children might do this because they don't truly understand the situations, but isn't that the parents job to explain things to them correctly? It's easy to blame the parents, but it shouldn't be anyone else who has to show them right from wrong when dealing with personal activities. Sometimes it's unavoidable no matter what, but that number is insignificant to all the other populations of people that do horrible things for other reasons. As for comparing hentai and porn, the latter has just as many different fetishes as the former does. The only difference being, animation is much easier to use when creating them for the various audiences who want to see them.
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Even though there are some people who will be so influenced by a form of media that they will go out and perform the same act they saw, those individuals already have a problem and it would probably happen sooner or later regardless. I understand children might do this because they don't truly understand the situations, but isn't that the parents job to explain things to them correctly? It's easy to blame the parents, but it shouldn't be anyone else who has to show them right from wrong when dealing with personal activities. Sometimes it's unavoidable no matter what, but that number is insignificant to all the other populations of people that do horrible things for other reasons. As for comparing hentai and porn, the latter has just as many different fetishes as the former does. The only difference being, animation is much easier to use when creating them for the various audiences who want to see them.


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Pretty pathetic there, bro.

Says the guy who just quartet posted! XDDDDDDD

Karma, dude. Karma. It doesn't agree with your logic.

With that said, I'm going to ignore this thread from now on; the heated conflict gives me heartburn, and I really don't want to prove my views right for a bunch of conceited jerks assuming themselves as the masters of the Internet.

Oh, and Drunk_Samurai, it was obviously not because you were right that I chose to ignore you. With my last post here, my last statement of defense would be that it's retarded or psychotic to deny that there's something wrong with rape porn and pornography. I didn't say it induces rape, only that it influences it further. I hope you read my post properly this time.


There is nothing wrong with rape porn. As I already said, people have fetishes. People who view rape porn are less likely to actually go rape somebody.

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Did read the post dude I say that nothing can change the fact that can give off influence and cultivate desires and thus can possiblyLEAD to these actions so with that being said you can't tell me thats not true nonetheless I'll RESPECTFULLY disagree with you.


BakaKawaii said it all. If somebody goes out and does something from a video game that means they were already fucked up to begin with. I played violent video games from when I was 5. By your logic I murdered 200 people.
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I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.


Personally, I think this is a blatant lie. I mean, who the heck goes to porn for a storyline?

After thinking about it some more, Epic probably just likes it better when there's some point to the porn then just people screwing (usually provides good humor when they try to throw in a story). It's just a preference.


Honestly, yes. I'm really reeeeally tired of the same old same old that we see on porn sites, so I want to see if there's more to it than just...fap. I wanna see story, characters, how they fall in love and what happens after that.
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Let me guess... OP is from highly religious american family, amirite? Stereotype win!
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