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May 14, 2012 10:03 AM
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Mon_Diamond

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Midori ends up all alone..
Does anybody know if the man sneezing represents something?
Jun 28, 2012 5:16 PM
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Duelistbluerose

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usually someone sneezing in anime or manga means that someone is talking about them. i dunno how this fits into the last chapter though.

the ending to this dumb series made absolutely no sense. this definitely ranks among my worst manga series ever
Jan 30, 2014 5:27 PM
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Hannah_Ana

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Did she go insane after thinking she'd been abandoned? Why was she unable to get to where the midget was? He was killed and she didn't even know.
Sep 10, 2014 12:49 AM
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legendarysnake

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I thought the same thing. In addition to what you said, at various times, Midori had crazy dreams and hallucinations. This ending shows that she now suffers some sort of schizophrenia, and possibly post-traumatic stress.
Jul 29, 2019 7:34 PM
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LilHikari
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I think the same scenes being repeated and her not being able to find the Bottled Man are because she is unable to cope with the trauma of finding him dead.
Jul 30, 2019 8:35 PM
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UnoPuntoCinco

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Midori did go insane and ended up alone, in the winter, without food
Sep 22, 2019 10:53 PM
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Irimias

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after a re-read, I realized how powerful the last chapter is
this could be marou suehiro's best work
Oct 1, 2019 8:42 PM
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ShadowSphere95
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duras said:
after a re-read, I realized how powerful the last chapter is
this could be marou suehiro's best work
9th

His work is best!
Apr 17, 2020 7:12 PM
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Today, rereading the last chapter, I theorized that everything in Midori's life was caused by the dwarf's illusion. He was the mastermind of all the torture done by her, since the dwarf could create illusions of deformity, and of course, create characters for his plot. The biggest evidence is the staircase scene, with all the characters from the circus present, and the dwarf in the middle of everyone.

Thinking about it, I climbed to the cosmological level. As if the storm on the following pages were the end of the illusion of a universe created by the dwarf, to torture Midori and entertain the audience (us, readers) with the freak show.

I know this went a long way, but it gave me a new and more macabre perspective of this ḿanga.
Sep 18, 2020 1:32 PM
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recidivante said:
Today, rereading the last chapter, I theorized that everything in Midori's life was caused by the dwarf's illusion. He was the mastermind of all the torture done by her, since the dwarf could create illusions of deformity, and of course, create characters for his plot. The biggest evidence is the staircase scene, with all the characters from the circus present, and the dwarf in the middle of everyone.

Thinking about it, I climbed to the cosmological level. As if the storm on the following pages were the end of the illusion of a universe created by the dwarf, to torture Midori and entertain the audience (us, readers) with the freak show.

I know this went a long way, but it gave me a new and more macabre perspective of this ḿanga.

Never thought about this idea, nice theory!
Oct 27, 2021 1:03 AM
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If you want to better understand the ending, watch "Grass Labyrinth" by Shuji Terayama. It's a surrealist film that's referenced in the manga, particularly the climax of the film inspired this last chapter (my speculation but I'm pretty sure of it).
May 21, 2022 12:50 AM
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dakuchonekobing

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I think this is a loop of abstraction, that is to say, the suffering has surrounded Midori, and in the end it hasn't let go of her, she will be haunted forever. This is probably also the fate of war orphans who have to wander around and be abused. The monstrous circus also symbolizes the hypocrisy and contempt in the souls of people in society. And such a society has no future (Midori represents the future that will freeze to death from starvation)
Jul 22, 2022 8:21 PM
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LucasReverblay
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recidivante said:
Today, rereading the last chapter, I theorized that everything in Midori's life was caused by the dwarf's illusion. He was the mastermind of all the torture done by her, since the dwarf could create illusions of deformity, and of course, create characters for his plot. The biggest evidence is the staircase scene, with all the characters from the circus present, and the dwarf in the middle of everyone.

Thinking about it, I climbed to the cosmological level. As if the storm on the following pages were the end of the illusion of a universe created by the dwarf, to torture Midori and entertain the audience (us, readers) with the freak show.

I know this went a long way, but it gave me a new and more macabre perspective of this ḿanga.


Good theory! It changed the way i see the story.
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