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Sep 17, 2008 12:00 PM

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Rie said:
Hmm. Interesting topic. I agree with several people here...

Personally, I've taken 7years of Japanese classes... I am still rather intermediate, to my dismay... Classes have helped enhance my understanding about Grammar rules and sentence structure... since it is quite different from English, my mother language. Furthermore, classes have helped me to practice conversation and composition writing...

Nevertheless! I feel like I've learned much more from anime and manga. I originally started learning Japanese mainly because of anime... And well, upon encountering the idea of subtitles and Fansub teams and whatnot after a couple years of learning Japanese, I completely became engrossed in learning more. If one pays attention, one should be able to notice word/vocabulary and sentence/phrase patterns through all series and manga. That's how I started to grasp more conversational/colloquial vocab to practice and use. Then, once I began to advance in levels in school, I became the head of my class/school ALL thanks to anime/manga. TRULY so. I feel like I've benefited from taking mental notes and phrase/word memorization from reading manga and watching anime. I could not be able to read RAW manga or watch RAW anime now if I had not originally began learning the Japanese language via just anime and manga.

Really, all I got from my seven years of Japanese learning were formalities and writing structures. Nothing else. I am not yet fluent but able to converse in informal Japanese practically all due to the common usage of it within manga and anime. Reading and listening to the dialogues truly have made it more interactive and interesting to learn from; probably also easier to retain in memory. I want to also brag that I am more capable of intermediate-level reading literature thanks to reading manga... Additionally, I can watch RAW Japanese dramas and anime because of the fact that I've been keeping a keen ear on listening to conversations and catching onto phrases and words from anime. Altogether, I honestly think that I've advanced my Japanese language skills from just watching anime and reading manga.

(I intend to improve my Chinese and Korean from watching dramas and news, too.)

Lolz. Fluffy spiel I made... My bad. :P

I like to hear other's experiences about language learning, Improving a language by watching drama is a very smart thing, it guarantee that you will always keep learning, specially in a somewhat more native way.

You are learning other languages like Chinese?? ^^, Chinese is an important language to me to learn too, I am gonna watch a lot of Chinese movies for just improving it(after I finish learning it, Which is gonna take quite a time).

Good luck in your learning

Jasonbear said:
To be honest, I'm not willing to work that hard just so I can anime. Plus learning a language is difficult for me.

LolitaDecay said:
I'm learning Japanese because I love the language. Not because of anime.

TwilightRhapsody said:
I wouldn't learn Japanese JUST for anime/manga, that's kinda disrespectful to the language...

Minna , Big things may come from trivial things like, Learning a language even for a simple reason like watching Anime isn't that bad, As long as you have time, Specially there are more benefits you are gonna discover later.

LolitaDecay said:
I'm learning Japanese because I love the language. Not because of anime.

Loving a language is a very enough reason for learning it ^^.
Sep 17, 2008 1:12 PM

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SweetMonia said:
I like to hear other's experiences about language learning, Improving a language by watching drama is a very smart thing, it guarantee that you will always keep learning, specially in a somewhat more native way.

^_^
I only had one year of Japanese so far and teacher says "now you know ALL, next 5 years: TRAINING" She also says "all you learn here is NOTHING. Must live in Japan to know how to talk" so chyeah. ^^;

However I am Portuguese. Unlike some may say Portuguese and Japanese are very similar languages. The structure of Japanese grammar is very easy to understand for us (well... For me it is and I'm kind of a grammar freak. But I think that you'd better know your language well before engaging another). Plus, "romanization" was first created by Portuguese Priests so it follows our phonetic (sp?) structure.
Our course book is in English and I am amazed at the explanations they give some times. It's just so simple and they go all the way around to explain it in a different way. =p Sometimes I'm really glad that I was born here. xD xD

As for Anime... Anime really did not help my conversation skills. If teacher tries to engage a conversation with any of the... 5 anime freaks that are in class (wow, now that I count we're really just a few... Some of my colleagues have not even watched much more than Dragon Ball Z xD) we get really owned. Unless, of course, the conversation is about killing people with swords. Maybe I'm watching the wrong anime? =p On the other hand, Japanese classes really help me with anime. Now I basically listen and confirm I'm right with the subtitles. Of course that sometimes it's impossible (like Lelouch talking about the desire of power at full speed), but usually works and it's relieving. Especially with lagging mkv files. ^^

Now that I'm learning I have really taken a real liking for the language. I found it pretty in anime, but the grammar is just so perfect and appropriate to its culture that now I can't help but to love it. That, together with the need of knowing it for my scholarship, makes me want to learn more. (but having a great teacher also helps =p)
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^ By the way, by saying you're learning chinese im presuming you're learning Mandarin, right?

just wondering, as Cantonese is also widely spoken.
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ladyxzeus said:
SweetMonia said:
I like to hear other's experiences about language learning, Improving a language by watching drama is a very smart thing, it guarantee that you will always keep learning, specially in a somewhat more native way.

^_^
I only had one year of Japanese so far and teacher says "now you know ALL, next 5 years: TRAINING" She also says "all you learn here is NOTHING. Must live in Japan to know how to talk" so chyeah. ^^;

However I am Portuguese. Unlike some may say Portuguese and Japanese are very similar languages. The structure of Japanese grammar is very easy to understand for us (well... For me it is and I'm kind of a grammar freak. But I think that you'd better know your language well before engaging another). Plus, "romanization" was first created by Portuguese Priests so it follows our phonetic (sp?) structure.
Our course book is in English and I am amazed at the explanations they give some times. It's just so simple and they go all the way around to explain it in a different way. =p Sometimes I'm really glad that I was born here. xD xD

As for Anime... Anime really did not help my conversation skills. If teacher tries to engage a conversation with any of the... 5 anime freaks that are in class (wow, now that I count we're really just a few... Some of my colleagues have not even watched much more than Dragon Ball Z xD) we get really owned. Unless, of course, the conversation is about killing people with swords. Maybe I'm watching the wrong anime? =p On the other hand, Japanese classes really help me with anime. Now I basically listen and confirm I'm right with the subtitles. Of course that sometimes it's impossible (like Lelouch talking about the desire of power at full speed), but usually works and it's relieving. Especially with lagging mkv files. ^^

Now that I'm learning I have really taken a real liking for the language. I found it pretty in anime, but the grammar is just so perfect and appropriate to its culture that now I can't help but to love it. That, together with the need of knowing it for my scholarship, makes me want to learn more. (but having a great teacher also helps =p)


AHAHA~, Your teacher is right, Your teacher has guided you to the most important thing in language learning, Which is practicing, Generally, I don't think you have to live in Japan to be able to speak properly(Though it help greatly), But as people who lived in Japan says things like:- "When I lived in Japan for a while, I thought that I know everything about Japanese, But after 15 years of living there, I discovered that I know a little about Japanese", This thing may apply for the language too!!!.

When I learn a language, I am able to deal with the grammars, But I really hate depending on grammars for learning a language knowing that natives didn't even know them, as long as you know how to say it the right way, Usually I deal with this by using a Learning Software and Excessive interacting with the language.

Anime didn't help improving your conversation???, Is it because it's more concerned about specific topics, I don't really know, Specially by looking at your Anime list, You have watched a lot of Anime from various genres. ?_?

AHAHA~, I have a very series problem with MKV files, Some times I use Demuxing software to extract the subtitle so I can read any lines that's overlapped(I did it with Code Geass), Having a great teacher("Great Teacher Onizuka") is hard on me unless I want to learn English(Which I am already excellent at).

Sohei said:
^ By the way, by saying you're learning chinese im presuming you're learning Mandarin, right?

just wondering, as Cantonese is also widely spoken.

Yes, I am learning Mandarin(po tong hua 北方话), It's the most used Chinese(Used by 885 million Native Speaker in China, aside from speakers in Singapore, Taiwan and Malaysia).
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well, i find looking at subs pretty easy, so it wouldnt do a difference. but i want to learn japanese so badly
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Foop said:
well, i find looking at subs pretty easy, so it wouldnt do a difference. but i want to learn japanese so badly


Yeah, same. I'm trying to learn Japanese but I'm pretty lazy so it's going slowly...I just know some hiragana and words I've picked up from anime. One day I hope I can actually get serious about it ^^;

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SweetMonia said:

Anime didn't help improving your conversation???, Is it because it's more concerned about specific topics, I don't really know, Specially by looking at your Anime list, You have watched a lot of Anime from various genres. ?_?

Hahaha ^^ Sometimes I even believe people in Anime must speak a different kind of Japanese never ever I got to use the words I learned in a conversation. Even though with a single year I was able to explain kind of clearly what kind of animals we have at our zoo. Felt quite proud then. xD xD

As for the people who live there... I think Japanese is more of a "spoken" language and has nuances that can only be fully used and understood when you actually use them. But wait a couple of years (if all goes well) and I'll confirm that personally. =p

Another thing I absolutely love about this learning experience is that it's going back to childhood. To learn things with animal cards is cute. To watch movies about the school system in Japan (our class is also about the Japanese Culture) and see the little children learning exactly the same thing as us makes me feel amused. And watching an adult class singing "musunde hiraide" with gestures must have been absolutely hilarious. I'm so sad nobody had the courage to tape down that class. xD
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I'm doing that :D

But not just for anime, I'm interested in Japan and his culture as well, and I'm really liking this new language
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I love anime and I find the Japanese language nice!
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I wouldn't say that I am "learning" japanese, but I do try to learn it little by little, whether its reading a japanese help book, watching anime (its amazing how much you can lean but just listening and trying different type of subs, sometimes it even gets to the stage where you disagree with the subs) or whatever other means there is. I tried to learn not only to understand or speak it but to learn hiragana and katakana (the Kanji bit is less of a problem due to me recognizing most of it thanks to my chinese), though this process will take a bit longer =P
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ya, but i'm rlly lazy. i know some1 who learned it and now all she does is read manga i'm jealous
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As a general rule, I'm really interested in other languages. So, although I would enjoy being able to understand the anime and manga in their natural language, I wouldn't learn Japanese strictly just to be able to understand them. Eventually, I would like to try and learn the language, but I don't know how well I'd do with it. There's just so many different parts to the language, and although I know french, and I'm learning German, they're both fairly close to english anyway. From what I can gather of the Japanese language, it doesn't have any (or at least very few) common aspects with the English language.
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I'm learning! Well at least trying to...
I'm planning to go to Japan some day <3
Learning the language is essential for my future! xD
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Yes. My school doesn't teach Japanses though. -.-
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wannabescene said:
From what I can gather of the Japanese language, it doesn't have any (or at least very few) common aspects with the English language.


What do you think of "The more languages you learn!, The easiest it's to learn others"???, This is a rule I made but I am not sure how much it's true.


frodofork said:
Yes. My school doesn't teach Japanses though. -.-


Just out of curiosity, What languages you school teaches???
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I want to learn Japanese someday so I can actually understand it, but my school doesnt teach Japanese (although it does teach French, Spanish, German AND Latin...(possibly Chinese))

I'm okay with subtitles for now.


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SweetMonia said:
wannabescene said:
From what I can gather of the Japanese language, it doesn't have any (or at least very few) common aspects with the English language.


What do you think of "The more languages you learn!, The easiest it's to learn others"???, This is a rule I made but I am not sure how much it's true.




I believe it depends on the languages you know.

For example, I'm fluent in 3 latin based languages and I find Japanese super easy. I also know that Russian, Romanian and similars all sound latin based and that people from those countries have no trouble at all learning.

On the other hand my stepbrother is fluent in 2 germanics and 2 latin based and has been thaught in German. He simply can't understand the simpliest grammar rule of Japanese or Russian (and he's quite good, it just does not fit in his head that grammar can be "this" instead of "that")
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I'm going to learn Japanese in school next year. I do it since I'm intressted in Japan and so on, but also since I find it a good language to be able to speakin the future when I'm going to search a job. The fact that anime/manga will be easier is just a bonus.


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frodofork said:
Yes. My school doesn't teach Japanses though. -.-

Neither does mine, but luckily my mum's friend is fluent in Japanese so she's giving me little lessons on it :D

Plus I'm taking Mandarin at school so if I ever wanted to (which I do) I can take a Japanese course at Uni. For some reason they specify that French, German etc aren't suitable languages to have already learnt before Japanese :\ How ghey.
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ladyxzeus said:
SweetMonia said:
wannabescene said:
From what I can gather of the Japanese language, it doesn't have any (or at least very few) common aspects with the English language.


What do you think of "The more languages you learn!, The easiest it's to learn others"???, This is a rule I made but I am not sure how much it's true.

I believe it depends on the languages you know.

For example, I'm fluent in 3 latin based languages and I find Japanese super easy. I also know that Russian, Romanian and similars all sound latin based and that people from those countries have no trouble at all learning.

On the other hand my stepbrother is fluent in 2 germanics and 2 latin based and has been thaught in German. He simply can't understand the simpliest grammar rule of Japanese or Russian (and he's quite good, it just does not fit in his head that grammar can be "this" instead of "that")


LolitaDecay said:
frodofork said:
For some reason they specify that French, German etc aren't suitable languages to have already learnt before Japanese : How ghey.




I got it, The closer the languages you know to the aimed to be learned is, The easiest is to learn it, Knowing many languages doesn't means you can learn Any language(Unless it's a very different ones).

It also answer Lolita's answer about better not learning, French and German before Japanese, There is a big difference that one may cannot get that grammar can be "this" instead of "that"

Honestly, I don't know the different between Latin and Germanic languages, They looks the same for me
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SweetMonia said:

Honestly, I don't know the different between Latin and Germanic languages, They looks the same for me

In the basic grammar the differences are not much, it has more to do with the way they "sound". If you refine the language the differences can be astounding. Then there are even weirder things, like the "ugric" based (not sure how would you call them in English, it includes Hungarian and Finnish)... Not to mention all the dialects in Africa and so on. xD Languages are fun. ^_^

I understand why schools would not recomment learning French or German before Japanese. Since you're not fluent and just know the basics it's easier to mess it all in a Japarench dialect nobody understands. =p Happens all the time with some of my classmates that "trust" the book in English and sometimes end up speaking Japanglish instead.
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Erm, I wouldn't learn Japanese for the sake of watching Anime, I think that's rather silly. Well, I think learning Japanese would be a little easier because of my knowledge of Chinese, so I can read a little Kanji already. :)
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I didn't actually learn Japanese until I moved there, and even then never formally - just from listening to, and then trying to participate in conversations.

So my Japanese is at times extremely rude and at times extremely feminine - usually a mixture of the two that makes people laugh. Gokigenyou is not a standard greeting :p

My main motivation was just to be able to communicate. Being able to watch raw anime was just an added bonus ^^ Having said that, manga is still a no-no as I never learned how to read or write kanji.

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I wanna learn japenese!!!


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you mean reading subs? are you asking if i suck at reading, if i'm illiterate, if i'm color-blind.

but as far as jus tdifferences inthe languages and how like sometimes tehre's just no equivalent that does whatever phrase justice, just like nuances you can get if you know some japanese. so you can get more enjoyment out of it.

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Noo.
At first, I wanted to learn it just 'cause. I was really young then & I didn't even know anime was based on Japan, but I lived in HK and there was this one transfer student who was half Japanese. I wanted to learn the language to be able to talk to her. She was really sweet and her Chinese was mediocre, so we kind of taught each other, but it was hard since at that time I didn't know English and neither did she! :O

I can only read a bit (kanji), but it's very fail. At least I can understand commonly used phrases/words, but who can't? lol.



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I'm fine with subtitles and dubs that aren't horrible.
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yes I have... and I've picked up quite a few phrases already just from watching a buncha anime. but I'm sure it takes a LOT more effort to actually learn it, and I don't have space for a class

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Ehr.. I watch fansub by 6 years now, with eng sub. And I learned japanese. Some day I noticed I knew a lot of words and some constructs. Last week I wento to my first lesson of Japanese and they put in me in an advanced grade...XD
And I never,ever opened a single book of japanese in my life!
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I've learned some phrases and to a point it made me want to learn the language so i could understand the anime better but now its just personal interest where i want to learn for myself and not anime but i don't have the money at this point in time to register for classes
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humhorse said:
I didn't actually learn Japanese until I moved there, and even then never formally - just from listening to, and then trying to participate in conversations.

So my Japanese is at times extremely rude and at times extremely feminine - usually a mixture of the two that makes people laugh. Gokigenyou is not a standard greeting :p

My main motivation was just to be able to communicate. Being able to watch raw anime was just an added bonus ^^ Having said that, manga is still a no-no as I never learned how to read or write kanji.


Really, manga isn't that hard even if you don't know much kanji. Just start with shoujo/shounen manga or Yotsuba&! etc., things that have the pronunciation as well (yay furigana). You'll start to be able to read kanji a bit after a while, though it won't help you much with writing 'em.
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Really, manga isn't that hard even if you don't know much kanji. Just start with shoujo/shounen manga or Yotsuba&! etc., things that have the pronunciation as well (yay furigana). You'll start to be able to read kanji a bit after a while, though it won't help you much with writing 'em.


Thanks :) Yeah, I might give it another go (if I can draw up enough motivation!) I did try it once when I bought a Negima manga, but it took me hours just to read a single chapter, and even then when I re-read the English version I noticed I had made a couple of fairly big errors :p Still, like you say, I guess it'll improve after a while. Writing's easier on a cell phone or in MS Word when they suggest the kanji to you after you type in the hiragana ;) I can recognise a lot more kanji than I can write.



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I'm learning Japanese and even so it's dificult to understand what they are talking about in the anime because oral language is very differect from writing/good Jap from a gramatical point of view.
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Thought about it, but I'd never be able to remember it all. I just remember the occasional word/phrase from anime.
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Thought about it, but I'd never be able to remember it all. I just remember the occasional word/phrase from anime.


same here
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Well, I am learning it in my free time, but it's long and a little hard. But I'm not doing it to be able to watch animes RAW (since I love fansubs) but it would be to understand Japanese when I'll travel there! ^^

I have 10 years to learn it... so I have full of time to learn it! ^^ The only good point about understanding RAW animes would be to not wait for a sub group to watch it, mostly for animes which sub groups are bad or very very slow!
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I took Japanese in high school for two years, and I do watch RAW anime episodes sometimes
and do understand some of it but at the same time Im not fluent and it's been several years
since high school.
I want to take Japanese next quarter at my college so I can brush up and I'd like to be fluent as well.
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Definitely, just haven't quite gotten to it yet.

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I try to pick up some japanese mainly because the language and country are so interesting and yeah it's nice to be able to follow untranslated anime :)

It can also be useful when you notice that the subs are not translated properly.
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I have 10 years to learn it... so I have full of time to learn it! ^^ The only good point about understanding RAW animes would be to not wait for a sub group to watch it, mostly for animes which sub groups are bad or very very slow!

Wow, 10 years is a quite long time, I give myself a 6 month of learning before I start my 6-24 month practicing, But 10 years is too long even if you wanna make your Japanese as good as your first language.
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I actually did consider such a possibility a while back. I even decided to go study Japanology in our university. However, plans changed. Also, to be learning the language to only understand anime/manga is quite... Pathetic? Sure, it is easier to understand and you don't have to search for subbed episodes like crazy, but... I shall put it like this - easy come, easy go. Obsession with anime/manga goes away in time and so does the language. That is, of course, if you learned it only for this kind of use... This is just my opinion.
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Vespa said:
I actually did consider such a possibility a while back. I even decided to go study Japanology in our university. However, plans changed. Also, to be learning the language to only understand anime/manga is quite... Pathetic? Sure, it is easier to understand and you don't have to search for subbed episodes like crazy, but... I shall put it like this - easy come, easy go. Obsession with anime/manga goes away in time and so does the language. That is, of course, if you learned it only for this kind of use... This is just my opinion.


Yeah, it's a supreme waste of time and you'd probably spend more time learning than watching anime for which there are subs anyway. And for those who say that there are some that aren't subbed, go read the plot on Wikipedia; personally, I don't think it's worth learning the language.
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For those of you who are serious about learning, go live there for a while. Get a job teaching English or something (that's what I did). You'll be surprised how much you pick up, even without taking lessons or having any prior knowledge. The average Japanese can barely speak ten words of English, so you pretty much have to learn to speak Japanese if you want to communicate.

Just avoid the "speak English when teaching, then only speak to your English-speaking fellow teachers outside of work" routine that can easily happen.


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For me learning Japanese is a hobby so I really don't consider it a waste of time since I enjoy it.

It also gives me something to do when I'm stuck in traffic again which is a daily routine I often listen to japanesepod101 (www.japanesepod101.com - audio is free) and I learn things as I go I find it fun and interesting that I can follow more and more of a anime without the need of subtitles. Even the best subtitles often don't really do justice to the story as a lot of detail is left out when translating.
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Yes I have and I did study it for a bit (there was a free course at my school, but it was short and I learned only the basics), I'm still learning it through books which I got.
It did help me a bit, but I still don't understand most of the anime, so I would like to continue learning Japanese somewhere.
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humhorse said:
For those of you who are serious about learning, go live there for a while. Get a job teaching English or something (that's what I did). You'll be surprised how much you pick up, even without taking lessons or having any prior knowledge. The average Japanese can barely speak ten words of English, so you pretty much have to learn to speak Japanese if you want to communicate.

Just avoid the "speak English when teaching, then only speak to your English-speaking fellow teachers outside of work" routine that can easily happen.


I'd do that but I don't have a degree on English that allows me to teach people and nobody wants to learn Portuguese. xD

But chyeah, if I ever get accepted in the scholarship *prays* I'll just go there randomly with the pick-up sentence that works for everything: Okinawa no umi wa totemo kirei desu. ºvº
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Sep 30, 2008 12:27 PM

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humhorse said:
For those of you who are serious about learning, go live there for a while. Get a job teaching English or something (that's what I did). You'll be surprised how much you pick up, even without taking lessons or having any prior knowledge. The average Japanese can barely speak ten words of English, so you pretty much have to learn to speak Japanese if you want to communicate.

Just avoid the "speak English when teaching, then only speak to your English-speaking fellow teachers outside of work" routine that can easily happen.



I've been thinking about this even though my English isn't perfect I still speak and write it 100 times better then the majority of the Japanese. But I just wonder... how do you teach someone foreign language without knowing the language they are speaking...
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humhorse said:
For those of you who are serious about learning, go live there for a while. Get a job teaching English or something (that's what I did). You'll be surprised how much you pick up, even without taking lessons or having any prior knowledge. The average Japanese can barely speak ten words of English, so you pretty much have to learn to speak Japanese if you want to communicate.

Just avoid the "speak English when teaching, then only speak to your English-speaking fellow teachers outside of work" routine that can easily happen.



I've been thinking about this even though my English isn't perfect I still speak and write it 100 times better then the majority of the Japanese. But I just wonder... how do you teach someone foreign language without knowing the language they are speaking...

Usually English teachers speak English with students. For very basic students (like 5 y/o children) they speak their language and then start including more complex sentences as the classes go. This usually goes really fast, small demons have fantastic learning ability.

As for adult students... Oh well, it's like the children, but they take SO MUCH longer to learn. *pokes self* At least I feel that in Japanese class.
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Saito said:
I've been thinking about this even though my English isn't perfect I still speak and write it 100 times better then the majority of the Japanese. But I just wonder... how do you teach someone foreign language without knowing the language they are speaking...


To be honest you don't need a degree in English - I'm a CompSci major and my best friend there was a maths/art major. They just interview you and if they think you're not a complete screw-up, they'll take you. The staff turnover is pretty high for various reasons, so I don't think they're too particular. Don't expect to get to choose where you work though!

As for teaching them English by speaking English, it depends on the school you work for. I worked for the (now defunct) Nova Corporation and their philosophy was to teach students of all levels and ages purely in English. In fact, I got the feeling they preferred to hire teachers who had no Japanese knowledge, and speaking Japanese in class was a strict no-no.

However, my best friend worked for GEOS, and they had a native Japanese speaker teaching the beginner classes. Their English was pretty good though, I believe they had to have a TOEIC score of 900+ (maximum is 990) to teach English.

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sometimes i wish i knew japanese when the subtitles are too fast O_o
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