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Apr 12, 2012 2:18 AM
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Just announced: http://www.joystiq.com/2012/04/11/dark-souls-for-pc-announced-masochism-begins-august-24/

Dark Souls is coming to PC on August 24th and will feature new bosses.
I hope there's a patch for the PS3 and 360 versions to get the new stuff, but I doubt it :[
Apr 12, 2012 2:20 AM
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.........

Can't wait...
Apr 12, 2012 2:46 AM
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Sounds good to me.
Apr 12, 2012 5:54 AM
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Dark Souls coming to PC is awesome news. Hopefully they figure out a good control scheme for the mouse and keyboard, although I guess I wouldn't mind to much if I had to use a controller for this gem.
To bad it seems like it will use Games for Windows Live as a DRM.
A petition has already been started to voice this concern. If you would prefer Steamworks over GfWL you should consider signing it. Here is the link: http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-and-from-software-release-dark-souls-pc-edition-without-games-for-windows-live#
Apr 12, 2012 6:10 AM
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Dark Souls coming to PC is awesome news. Hopefully they figure out a good control scheme for the mouse and keyboard, although I guess I wouldn't mind to much if I had to use a controller for this gem.
To bad it seems like it will use Games for Windows Live as a DRM.
A petition has already been started to voice this concern. If you would prefer Steamworks over GfWL you should consider signing it. Here is the link: http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-and-from-software-release-dark-souls-pc-edition-without-games-for-windows-live#


Which is easier to crack?


Since this will not be legally available in my country for who knows how long...
Apr 12, 2012 6:27 AM
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akutasame94 said:


Which is easier to crack?


Since this will not be legally available in my country for who knows how long...


I am pretty sure both forms of DRM will be cracked pretty soon after launch. But are you sure steam doesn't sell games in Serbia? I would love to know. Also on a side not a game not being available in your country is in my opinion the only valid reason to illegally download a game.
Apr 12, 2012 6:44 AM
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Suffocate said:
akutasame94 said:


Which is easier to crack?


Since this will not be legally available in my country for who knows how long...


I am pretty sure both forms of DRM will be cracked pretty soon after launch. But are you sure steam doesn't sell games in Serbia? I would love to know. Also on a side not a game not being available in your country is in my opinion the only valid reason to illegally download a game.


Perhaps they do, I'm not sure, but I have bad experiences with online shopping...
Apr 12, 2012 6:46 AM
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Expecting moe blob character mods.
Apr 12, 2012 6:50 AM
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Dammit, this just after I bought it and the sequel for PS3. Oh well.
Apr 12, 2012 7:41 AM

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Ugh who are they getting to do the port? the Japanese are horrendous at porting shit to the PC, I'm sorta glad it's coming but it's probably gonna play and run like trash.

hopefully if this goes well, maybe we can get Armored Core 5 for PC too?
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
Apr 12, 2012 8:40 AM

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I just hope that the extra content on the PC game will become available as DLC for consoles.
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Apr 12, 2012 9:31 AM
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can't wait, such a great game.
Apr 12, 2012 10:11 AM

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As happy as I am about this I can only imagine choosing GFWL is going to make them lose considerable profit. I'll get it even if it's released for GFWL... but if it does poorly they'll probably reach the conclusion that PC isn't for them and that they're better off sticking to consoles in which case we'll probably never see another port from From Soft again even though all that was needed was to release it for Steam instead.

Thankfully a petition is what got them doing this in the first place and the petition against GFWL seems to be doing well so we might be able to get it off of there.
Apr 12, 2012 3:49 PM

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Suffocate said:
Dark Souls coming to PC is awesome news. Hopefully they figure out a good control scheme for the mouse and keyboard, although I guess I wouldn't mind to much if I had to use a controller for this gem.
To bad it seems like it will use Games for Windows Live as a DRM.
A petition has already been started to voice this concern. If you would prefer Steamworks over GfWL you should consider signing it. Here is the link: http://www.change.org/petitions/namco-bandai-and-from-software-release-dark-souls-pc-edition-without-games-for-windows-live#


Signed. GFWL is garbage.

Not going to pay for it if it uses it.
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Yea Games For Windows almost made me not play a game I actually paid money for.
It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die.
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Oh and before I get back to it, I just started and I was wondering, was there a way to open the gate that the pansy prince was hiding behind in the second part of the Boletarian palace, under the bridge? Running across with that bloody dragon on my heels every time gets old pretty quick.
I should probably have looked harder around for it when I went back to talk to him.
Apr 13, 2012 10:25 AM

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Time to crack open input and to start coding the challenge away, yay!

/sarc

Oh well, looking forward to the Artorias armor mod. :P
Apr 13, 2012 10:52 AM
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If it has GFWL I'm not buying it.
Apr 13, 2012 12:14 PM
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Baman said:
Dammit, this just after I bought it and the sequel for PS3. Oh well.


wat when did Dark Souls 2 get released?!

Baman said:
Oh and before I get back to it, I just started and I was wondering, was there a way to open the gate that the pansy prince was hiding behind in the second part of the Boletarian palace, under the bridge?


nop
Apr 13, 2012 8:48 PM

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>GFWL


balls
Apr 14, 2012 7:27 AM

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wat when did Dark Souls 2 get released?!
Eh, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls. Prequel then I guess.
Apr 14, 2012 12:41 PM

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GFWL with it was shit, wasn't really expecting that. Anyway, i really hope this does well enough that namco/from software realizes there's a rather big market for PC games. The only problem with this announcement IMO being GFWL, there's a pretty big "fuck GFWL" on pc. Alot of people have problems with it, microsoft doesn't even support it that much and just the fact the drm gfwl has on their games. This may backfire and reinforce devs/publishers that piracy is too much of a problem to release on PC, when it's really, the problem that PC gamers will bitch, complain, boycott, and pirate shit drm games and shit ports. Ill probably get it if i have the money when it does come out, but i may also wait for a sale.

All in all i hope it isn't a terrible port even if it's with GFWL. Otherwise this just may fuck up the future games of the series and them not wanting to bring it to PC.
Jun 26, 2012 1:48 AM

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I just hope that the extra content on the PC game will become available as DLC for consoles.
This... and that it's not too pricey, or just free, since I doubt the PC version will cost more.
Jun 26, 2012 2:00 AM

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I'm pretty sure they already said that it will come out as DLC for consoles at around $10 for all of the extra content. They also said that the PC version wont be full price (so probably anywhere from $20 to $40).

There were rumors that they also fixed the FPS problems and the 30 FPS cap but... those are still just rumors I think and probably aren't true unfortunately. Which is probably why they're giving out the game at a reduced price.
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I'm pretty sure they already said that it will come out as DLC for consoles at around $10 for all of the extra content. They also said that the PC version wont be full price (so probably anywhere from $20 to $40).

There were rumors that they also fixed the FPS problems and the 30 FPS cap but... those are still just rumors I think and probably aren't true unfortunately. Which is probably why they're giving out the game at a reduced price.


Would be nice if at least Blight Town was fixed.
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Urobuchi said:


There were rumors that they also fixed the FPS problems and the 30 FPS cap but... those are still just rumors I think and probably aren't true unfortunately. Which is probably why they're giving out the game at a reduced price.


There was an article on PC Gamer saying that they won't optimize the game for the PCs. Meaning all the problems the original had, will also be on the port.
I had this pre-ordered, but when I found out that this was just a lazy ass port, I canceled it. Now I'm just waiting for gameplay videos to put up, and see if it's actually worth it.
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Kayro said:
Urobuchi said:


There were rumors that they also fixed the FPS problems and the 30 FPS cap but... those are still just rumors I think and probably aren't true unfortunately. Which is probably why they're giving out the game at a reduced price.


There was an article on PC Gamer saying that they won't optimize the game for the PCs. Meaning all the problems the original had, will also be on the port.
I had this pre-ordered, but when I found out that this was just a lazy ass port, I canceled it. Now I'm just waiting for gameplay videos to put up, and see if it's actually worth it.


Posts like this disgust me.


Now I am all against bad ports and all about having a quality standard for PC , but Dark Souls is an exception to the rule and has to get a full support from the community if we are ever to get another game from From on PC(most likely in a better state, with Dark Souls having confirmed the marketability of the game genre on pc).

Let's not forget that they did NOT plan to release Dark Souls on pc. They did it purely because community ASKED for it and they were upfront that they lack experience with the platform but are willing to go into pc market deeper if they see that there's a , you know, market for it.

If Dark Souls sells great, we will get more Souls games on PC, possibly with better porting quality. If it does not, we won't ever see masterpieces like Dark Souls on pc ever again.

A lot of japanese companies are treading the waters of PC market now - you have dark souls coming to pc, you have DmC coming to pc, you have Castlevania Lords of Shadow II(and possibly the first part) being announced to be released on pc at almost the same time as console versions...

Gamer Elitism(gods I hate this term but in this situation it fits) could as well kill any chances of Dark Soul sequels or other good console games that deserve to get to pc, getting to pc, which is a very bad thing.

The game is playable and PC community will most likely fix whatever problems there are(and already we have a resolution-fix released by a modder) The important thing is to support a developer who spent a decade and more without touching a PC market and not only ported a game to pc(WITH additional content) purely BECAUSE FANBASE ASKED FOR IT, but also is willing to actually consider investing into PC market from now on if its worth it economically.
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Now I noticed that plenty of this game's fans, who played it on the consoles, feel that it their duty to defend the pc version...why!? no one is attacking the consoles version of this game. I tried the pc version a few days ago and it's awful, a guy released a fix only hours after the release of this game and this fix greatly improves the way this game looks and works, that basically tells us how much work was put in to this port. That this game's producers had no experience with pc games is no excuse for releasing such a game.

Also, another attitude I dislike, is that gamers should be thankful that this was released also on the pc after the community asked for it...well, this game costs 40$, I am not getting anything for free. Actually, even if this game was free I would not play it, the pc version is that bad.

Also, before defending this pc version of the game, how about playing it for a few hours, without the fix ofc.
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Zero said:
Now I noticed that plenty of this game's fans, who played it on the consoles, feel that it their duty to defend the pc version...why!? no one is attacking the consoles version of this game. I tried the pc version a few days ago and it's awful, a guy released a fix only hours after the release of this game and this fix greatly improves the way this game looks and works, that basically tells us how much work was put in to this port. That this game's producers had no experience with pc games is no excuse for releasing such a game.

Also, another attitude I dislike, is that gamers should be thankful that this was released also on the pc after the community asked for it...well, this game costs 40$, I am not getting anything for free. Actually, even if this game was free I would not play it, the pc version is that bad.

Also, before defending this pc version of the game, how about playing it for a few hours, without the fix ofc.
Yet another one who whines about the resolution which has been fixed since day 1. Also, why the hell would they give it for free? This isn't a pay to win multiplayer shooter or a half assed horror game but a full fledged rpg which can easily last more than 100 hours of gameplay. The PC version also has additional content which the console players have to pay an additional 15$ for. I'd take that anyday over some graphical issues.
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Even though I told myself I shouldn't, I went ahead and got it.

Completed the first playthrough in about 16 hours (according to steam), of course that involved a bit of idle time where I left the game open to go do other things.

The graphics were pretty damn terrible until the res. patch was released. And sure it was fairly difficult at times, but really that is all the game has going for it. The story was just flat out awful.

Idk, I can't really recommend it to anyone that is looking for an adventure. But if you want something hard with little to no reward at the end, then go for it.
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Sep 2, 2012 7:51 PM

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I'm 20 hours into the game and I gotta say, this is definitely one of the best roleplaying game/dungeon crawler out there, especially gameplay wise. The combat in this puts most rpgs to shame, it's both fun and hard. I'm having so much fun with the battles in this game. The graphical design is brilliant as well. The story is pretty much non-existent but it doesn't bother me at all. Really impressed so far with this and I hope it keeps that way. Props to Namco for not ignoring the PC platform or I wouldn't have gotten the chance to play this.
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Fai said:
Kayro said:
Urobuchi said:


There were rumors that they also fixed the FPS problems and the 30 FPS cap but... those are still just rumors I think and probably aren't true unfortunately. Which is probably why they're giving out the game at a reduced price.


There was an article on PC Gamer saying that they won't optimize the game for the PCs. Meaning all the problems the original had, will also be on the port.
I had this pre-ordered, but when I found out that this was just a lazy ass port, I canceled it. Now I'm just waiting for gameplay videos to put up, and see if it's actually worth it.


Posts like this disgust me.


Now I am all against bad ports and all about having a quality standard for PC , but Dark Souls is an exception to the rule and has to get a full support from the community if we are ever to get another game from From on PC(most likely in a better state, with Dark Souls having confirmed the marketability of the game genre on pc).

Let's not forget that they did NOT plan to release Dark Souls on pc. They did it purely because community ASKED for it and they were upfront that they lack experience with the platform but are willing to go into pc market deeper if they see that there's a , you know, market for it.

If Dark Souls sells great, we will get more Souls games on PC, possibly with better porting quality. If it does not, we won't ever see masterpieces like Dark Souls on pc ever again.

A lot of japanese companies are treading the waters of PC market now - you have dark souls coming to pc, you have DmC coming to pc, you have Castlevania Lords of Shadow II(and possibly the first part) being announced to be released on pc at almost the same time as console versions...

Gamer Elitism(gods I hate this term but in this situation it fits) could as well kill any chances of Dark Soul sequels or other good console games that deserve to get to pc, getting to pc, which is a very bad thing.

The game is playable and PC community will most likely fix whatever problems there are(and already we have a resolution-fix released by a modder) The important thing is to support a developer who spent a decade and more without touching a PC market and not only ported a game to pc(WITH additional content) purely BECAUSE FANBASE ASKED FOR IT, but also is willing to actually consider investing into PC market from now on if its worth it economically.


FAI your Post shows how litt;e you know about this history of Most big Japanese Gaming house Trding the pool of the PC market
when you consider the fact that
Falcom[ hell the best version of YsIII was the PC version Korean only] Square Enix Koei Ascci DB Soft Atlus Thinking Rabbit HAL [ PRE NINtI 2nd part ] just to name five were Computer Game makers befoe Console game make
or alot of them were arcade makers before consoles but anoher thing for another day
and were are most VN an doujin games still relesed PC so to say Japanese
so to say Japanese game makres no noting of the PC os just wrong

and im no master racer
so Leran your facts before you spout you Fallices
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The controls are so shit if you're using keyboard
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Zero said:
Now I noticed that plenty of this game's fans, who played it on the consoles, feel that it their duty to defend the pc version...why!? no one is attacking the consoles version of this game. I tried the pc version a few days ago and it's awful, a guy released a fix only hours after the release of this game and this fix greatly improves the way this game looks and works, that basically tells us how much work was put in to this port. That this game's producers had no experience with pc games is no excuse for releasing such a game.

Also, another attitude I dislike, is that gamers should be thankful that this was released also on the pc after the community asked for it...well, this game costs 40$, I am not getting anything for free. Actually, even if this game was free I would not play it, the pc version is that bad.

Also, before defending this pc version of the game, how about playing it for a few hours, without the fix ofc.

Yet another one who whines about the resolution which has been fixed since day 1. Also, why the hell would they give it for free? This isn't a pay to win multiplayer shooter or a half assed horror game but a full fledged rpg which can easily last more than 100 hours of gameplay. The PC version also has additional content which the console players have to pay an additional 15$ for. I'd take that anyday over some graphical issues.


yeah...You definitely did not get my post, how about reading it again.

Who released that fix? A fan. Not this game's developers.
I don't want the game for free, but should I be thankful for paying 40$ for an unplayable game on the pc? I don't think so. Also, I did not even post all this port's problems and there are plenty, like the x box controls are shown when reading messages in the game and plenty more, you can find them all easily.

I guess we two are just different kinds of customers. I for one find the pc version of this game an insult.

Also, did you play this port? cause you sure talk like you have no idea what the pc version is like.
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The controls are so shit if you're using keyboard

well, duh
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Zero said:
Givemeyosandwich said:
Zero said:
Now I noticed that plenty of this game's fans, who played it on the consoles, feel that it their duty to defend the pc version...why!? no one is attacking the consoles version of this game. I tried the pc version a few days ago and it's awful, a guy released a fix only hours after the release of this game and this fix greatly improves the way this game looks and works, that basically tells us how much work was put in to this port. That this game's producers had no experience with pc games is no excuse for releasing such a game.

Also, another attitude I dislike, is that gamers should be thankful that this was released also on the pc after the community asked for it...well, this game costs 40$, I am not getting anything for free. Actually, even if this game was free I would not play it, the pc version is that bad.

Also, before defending this pc version of the game, how about playing it for a few hours, without the fix ofc.

Yet another one who whines about the resolution which has been fixed since day 1. Also, why the hell would they give it for free? This isn't a pay to win multiplayer shooter or a half assed horror game but a full fledged rpg which can easily last more than 100 hours of gameplay. The PC version also has additional content which the console players have to pay an additional 15$ for. I'd take that anyday over some graphical issues.


yeah...You definitely did not get my post, how about reading it again.

Who released that fix? A fan. Not this game's developers.
I don't want the game for free, but should I be thankful for paying 40$ for an unplayable game on the pc? I don't think so. Also, I did not even post all this port's problems and there are plenty, like the x box controls are shown when reading messages in the game and plenty more, you can find them all easily.

I guess we two are just different kinds of customers. I for one find the pc version of this game an insult.

Also, did you play this port? cause you sure talk like you have no idea what the pc version is like.
As a matter of fact, I am playing it right now on PC and having no problem whatsoever with an xbox gamepad. Like many have said before, this is a naked port that only happened because of fans wanting it to be on PC. The developers have said themselves that they're encouraging players to use a controller instead of the keyboard. Even with the keyboard, it's not as bad as to call it "unplayable" but then again, most console ports plays a lot smoother with a controller.

But yeah, you're right about the fact that you shouldn't be thankful for this port but you're also the only one who can decide if you should spend 40$ on a game or not. It doesn't hurt to get to know what you're buying either.

Looks like Fai's post hit the nail right on the head, it's this exact kind of gamer elitism that's preventing a lot of great games to become available for more platforms. Oh well...
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@Givemeyosandwich: Gamer elitism... *sigh* No, not really. Dark Souls PC edition is a bad port. That's the bottom line. If a fan managed to release a must have fix only hours after this game was put on sale, we can only wonder how much better this game could have been if the developers were not this lazy and actually worked on optimizing this game for the pc. Just because you and others say this game is a naked port that only happened because of fans wanting it to be on PC does not mean one should just ignore its obvious problems. Considering you want my money, you should at least work for it and just like they admitted, they did not work on this pc version but since there was demand they decided to make some profit without actually spending money on optimizing it for the pc, and as we know, this version will be released on the consoles too.

Also, a lot of great games are not released also on the PC because of previous bad experiences companies had on the PC, such as the producers were too lazy when it came to PC optimization, they released bad ports and then they wonder what went wrong and why they did not sell more.
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Givemeyosandwich said:
Zero said:
Givemeyosandwich said:
Zero said:
Now I noticed that plenty of this game's fans, who played it on the consoles, feel that it their duty to defend the pc version...why!? no one is attacking the consoles version of this game. I tried the pc version a few days ago and it's awful, a guy released a fix only hours after the release of this game and this fix greatly improves the way this game looks and works, that basically tells us how much work was put in to this port. That this game's producers had no experience with pc games is no excuse for releasing such a game.

Also, another attitude I dislike, is that gamers should be thankful that this was released also on the pc after the community asked for it...well, this game costs 40$, I am not getting anything for free. Actually, even if this game was free I would not play it, the pc version is that bad.

Also, before defending this pc version of the game, how about playing it for a few hours, without the fix ofc.

Yet another one who whines about the resolution which has been fixed since day 1. Also, why the hell would they give it for free? This isn't a pay to win multiplayer shooter or a half assed horror game but a full fledged rpg which can easily last more than 100 hours of gameplay. The PC version also has additional content which the console players have to pay an additional 15$ for. I'd take that anyday over some graphical issues.


yeah...You definitely did not get my post, how about reading it again.

Who released that fix? A fan. Not this game's developers.
I don't want the game for free, but should I be thankful for paying 40$ for an unplayable game on the pc? I don't think so. Also, I did not even post all this port's problems and there are plenty, like the x box controls are shown when reading messages in the game and plenty more, you can find them all easily.

I guess we two are just different kinds of customers. I for one find the pc version of this game an insult.

Also, did you play this port? cause you sure talk like you have no idea what the pc version is like.
As a matter of fact, I am playing it right now on PC and having no problem whatsoever with an xbox gamepad. Like many have said before, this is a naked port that only happened because of fans wanting it to be on PC. The developers have said themselves that they're encouraging players to use a controller instead of the keyboard. Even with the keyboard, it's not as bad as to call it "unplayable" but then again, most console ports plays a lot smoother with a controller.

But yeah, you're right about the fact that you shouldn't be thankful for this port but you're also the only one who can decide if you should spend 40$ on a game or not. It doesn't hurt to get to know what you're buying either.

Looks like Fai's post hit the nail right on the head, it's this exact kind of gamer elitism that's preventing a lot of great games to become available for more platforms. Oh well...


Fai's Post that lacks research and Knowing of the Japanese Games Industry saying Japanese Game markers dont make PC/Home Computer Games

hes the elestist here
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SergioSource said:
The controls are so shit if you're using keyboard

well, duh

Well duh my ass
Ok that they have little experience with the pc paltform, but this was an awful way to start.
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SergioSource said:
grandy_UiD said:
SergioSource said:
The controls are so shit if you're using keyboard

well, duh

Well duh my ass
Ok that they have little experience with the pc paltform, but this was an awful way to start.


Awful wway to Start how
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