| I have caught up with all the new episodes for the new version of hunter and felt like watching the old version. Is it worth it to watch the old version from the start to catch up on things that the new one might have left out? And is episode 15 in the new version the same as ep 15 in the old one? |
| Original HxH is superior. So yes, I would recommend watching it. |
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| If old-school animation, a few added material, slow pace, and low resolution don't bother you then yes it is worth it. Also, episode 15's content is almost exactly the content of episode 22. |
| Well the music is awesome, less violence but It's definitely worth it, It's actually a masterpiece in my opinion |
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| Read the manga. It's better than both the new and old anime. |
| Thanks for the reply's, I guess I will start from episode 22 then. @NJZanDatsu I will check the manga out once I have finished the old Hunter x Hunter. |
| agreed with all above... old version = superior in every way except for graphic one of the best anime of all time.... of all time |
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| Meh. In my opinion the old series was a disgrace compared to the new one but it's your choice. |
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Yuyunarutoballz said: Meh. In my opinion the old series was a disgrace compared to the new one but it's your choice. That's a wise comment from someone who dropped the old one after 3 episodes. -_- NJZanDatsu said: Read the manga. It's better than both the new and old anime. This. |
| I suggest watching both the old and the new, as well as reading the manga so you can judge for yourself. If you are talking about animation and art, then obviously the new one is better. Personally though, the old trumps the new in several character aspects (e.g. Hisoka). On a side note, my opinion of the new series will shoot up if they included the gory arc (directly after the old anime's ending) without changing too much of the story (like they did with Killua piercing the killer's heart out during the Trap Tower). |
| From what i have seen so far the 1999 anime and its OVA's are far better than what Madhouse is doing. Even if there was some filler and certain parts of the story were a little different from the manga I personally loved the 1999 anime. The characters had better development in the old Anime and I liked the animation and art style they used back then, it was much darker. On a side note the 1999 version and obviously its OVA's were pretty gory they didn't really hold back on the violence like they have in this one which is pretty disappointing. There's too much censorship in my opinion, but its to be expected when its airing on that time slot. |
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| The old version is great, I especially like the first 2 openings. I would recommend watching it from the beginning because it starts off a little different than the Madhouse version. It'll give you the background information you need. All i can say is the 1999 version development of the characters is a bit off, and causes some plot holes but in all its a good series. As far as saying the 1999 version and the OVA are better is a bit farfetched. I would have a better opinion of it once the Madhouse version catches up. The 2011 version isn't that that badly censored, the 1999 totally cut the full fight of Hisoka and Kastro..but anyways, we just have to wait and see where the Madhouse version ends up. |
| Does anyone know which episode of the old series corresponds to episode 20 of the new one? Any predictions on when will the new one cover the material presented in the old one (in how many episodes)? |
phnsr said: Does anyone know which episode of the old series corresponds to episode 20 of the new one? Any predictions on when will the new one cover the material presented in the old one (in how many episodes)? I think episode 30 or 31. |
phnsr said: Does anyone know which episode of the old series corresponds to episode 20 of the new one? Any predictions on when will the new one cover the material presented in the old one (in how many episodes)? 1. Episode 20 is the last half of episode 29 and the first half of episode 30 (more or less). 2. If they keep going at this pace, they will reach the end of "GI final OVA" in episode 95. |
| Fast pace is good if you dont have time like me. Plus fillers could be really annoying. So don't bother with the old version. |
ninex said: Watch the old version. It´s superior to the new one. That's just your opinion buddy. |
Salce said: phnsr said: Does anyone know which episode of the old series corresponds to episode 20 of the new one? Any predictions on when will the new one cover the material presented in the old one (in how many episodes)? 1. Episode 20 is the last half of episode 29 and the first half of episode 30 (more or less). 2. If they keep going at this pace, they will reach the end of "GI final OVA" in episode 95. Nope. It would be around 82 actually since this version is almost 10 episodes earlier. |
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x5exotic said: Nope. It would be around 82 actually since this version is almost 10 episodes earlier. But that's because the new anime was more fast-paced in the beggining. Now Madhouse is doing 2 chapters by episode. Let's do maths: -Episode 20 goes up to chapter 36 of the manga. -Chimera Ant arc started at chapter 186. So they still have to do 150 chapters of manga. That means 75 episodes of anime with 2x1 pace. Episode 20 + 75 episodes = Episode 95. |
flaxman85 said: old version = superior in every way except for graphic The York Shin arc was some of the best animation and character design around. The Greed Island arc is almost exactly the tone the Madhouse version is recreating. In my opinion the GI animated arc was colorful but far too bright for HxH. I recommend watching the old series and then watching the new series once the Chimera ant arc starts or just watching the new series from start to finish. Trying to gauge what is or is not shared between the two versions will just sap the fun out of watching both for a new HxH fan. |
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bobop said: They won't keep this pace of 2 chapters per episode all the time. Sometimes they'll have to make it 3 chapters per episode, because there are lot of chapters in the Yorkshin arc with only 11 or 12 pages. Yeah, that's right. My calculations are only an estimation. But I think that they are more logical than just saying "now the new anime is 10 episodes erlier than the old anime, so it would be the same difference always". |
bobop said: Salce said: x5exotic said: Nope. It would be around 82 actually since this version is almost 10 episodes earlier. But that's because the new anime was more fast-paced in the beggining. Now Madhouse is doing 2 chapters by episode. Let's do maths: -Episode 20 goes up to chapter 36 of the manga. -Chimera Ant arc started at chapter 186. So they still have to do 150 chapters of manga. That means 75 episodes of anime with 2x1 pace. Then again, we'll have the 1 ch. per ep. witht the condensed election arc...probably Episode 20 + 75 episodes = Episode 95. They won't keep this pace of 2 chapters per episode all the time. Sometimes they'll have to make it 3 chapters per episode, because there are lot of chapters in the Yorkshin arc with only 11 or 12 pages. |
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| Ok, x6exotic. Now try actually saying something, instead of quoting the message of bobop that I have already answered ;) |
Salce said: x5exotic said: Nope. It would be around 82 actually since this version is almost 10 episodes earlier. But that's because the new anime was more fast-paced in the beggining. Now Madhouse is doing 2 chapters by episode. Let's do maths: -Episode 20 goes up to chapter 36 of the manga. -Chimera Ant arc started at chapter 186. So they still have to do 150 chapters of manga. That means 75 episodes of anime with 2x1 pace. Episode 20 + 75 episodes = Episode 95. this means that 2011 needs more episodes then 1999 needed to get to the point chimera arc starts. 2011 series = episode 20 1999 series = episode 30 so that makes it impossible for - start start chimera 1999 series = after episode 92 2011 series = episode 95 |
BlackListHunter said: this means that 2011 needs more episodes then 1999 needed to get to the point chimera arc starts. 2011 series = episode 20 1999 series = episode 30 so that makes it impossible for - start start chimera 1999 series = after episode 92 2011 series = episode 95 No. Right now, the new anime is more fast paced than the older one, so it's 10 episodes earlier as x5exotic and you said. But, we don't know the pace that the new anime will have later. I can give you a simple example: Episode 1 of the new anime goes up to episode 3 of the old anime. So at that point, the new anime was 3 times faster. But now, episode 20 of new anime equals episode 30 of old anime, so the new anime is only 1.5 times faster. The difference between both animes has decreased. So, It IS possible that at some point the new anime start to be slower than the old anime. Probably in Greed Island. |
Salce said: Ok, x6exotic. Now try actually saying something, instead of quoting the message of bobop that I have already answered ;) I actually did type something >.< It just got to the middle of your quote somehow 'Then again, we'll have the 1 ch. per ep. witht the condensed election arc...probably' that's what I said so you don't have to look for it. So that will kinda slow the pace a bit Anyway it's true, they might do the 3:1 ratio for the Yorkshin arc so reaching the ant arc is sooner, hopefully. |
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| Ok, sorry for being a bit dismissive. As I didn't saw what you wrote, it seemed like if you just quoted bobop, and I hate when people do that xD |
| It shouldn't be one or the other. Both adaptations are really good. Don't watch the old series if you don't plan on watching the same material covered by the 2011 series or reading the manga; the old version does some wonky things with HxH canon that can make the show confusing. But it's still worthwhile and especially impressive in the Yorknew City arc. Also, don't let the extreme fans of the old series deter you from watching the newer version either; Madhouse is doing an incredible job. As someone who was a fan of the manga first, I can definitely say that they're treating the series with love. |
| I agree with Toto. It shouldn't be one or the other. Personally I thought the original was amazing. Everything was so well rounded. The character designs were nice, the music was stunning, and some of the liberties they took when adapting it was actually pretty good. But the newer one is also good. It's moving at a much faster pace meaning that there won't be too many places where it becomes boring. The only thing that anyone should complain about is the choice to add a narrator. It's so pointless... Like for example in episode 20 the narrator says "Gon is angry at Ilumni" It's as thought they think we don't know the obvious... Honestly? I say if you don't mind using your time to go back and watch the old one it will be worthwhile in some way. The original is truly a classic even though that one will never continue on, there was still much fun to be had. Still check out the new one though. :) |
Hiyonin said: The only thing that anyone should complain about is the choice to add a narrator. It's so pointless... Like for example in episode 20 the narrator says "Gon is angry at Ilumni" It's as thought they think we don't know the obvious... Well, that line was amusingly bad written, but in general using a narrator is a good idea for this manga. Togashi uses it a lot. |
kronoxS said: the new pallete is nicer, but overall the animation feels kinda lazy and child-ish. I was expecting them to Wow us die hard Fans with a masterpiece being redone by today standards of anime quality, and not a colorful show that's aimed for kids... I pretty much have to agree with you there. What i love about H x H is that even though its a shounen/adventure, it has a very distinct dark tone. Which seems to have been dulled in this remake. And I'm not sure why they decided to remake the series in the first place. Ive read the manga and watched the first anime series, it was adapted quite accurately. Its not like its that old either. I was really hoping for a continuation. I might check it out again once it gets to the material that hasnt been animated yet, i havent decided, but for now its dropped. |
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| Watch the old one if you wish. I personally will not rewatch the old one mainly because I don't remember much from it and I prefer to go into anime blind instead of knowing what will happen by reading manga or whatever source it comes from. Just be aware if you watch the original while watching the new one you will 100% start comparing the two(you can tell by all of the people here comparing them). That's another reason why I won't rewatch it now is because I would end up more comparing it to the original than actually trying to enjoy watching the show. That's me though, don't feel discouraged to watch it if you want. |
Trie said: What i love about H x H is that even though its a shounen/adventure, it has a very distinct dark tone. Which seems to have been dulled in this remake. A duller pallette would help give it a darker tone. It just feels too vibrant at times. |
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Trie said: And I'm not sure why they decided to remake the series in the first place. Ive read the manga and watched the first anime series, it was adapted quite accurately. No at all! York Shin was relatively faithful to the manga, but the other arc were very different. Nippon did a lot of changes, some of them very important, as Mito being sister-in-law of Ging, instead of his cousin. Or Gon's mother being dead. If Togashi someday decides to show Gon's mother Nippon wouldn't be able to do it. |
NJZanDatsu said: ninex said: Watch the old version. It´s superior to the new one. That's just your opinion buddy. i disagree and say its fact at least for now |
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Salce said: Trie said: And I'm not sure why they decided to remake the series in the first place. Ive read the manga and watched the first anime series, it was adapted quite accurately. No at all! York Shin was relatively faithful to the manga, but the other arc were very different. Nippon did a lot of changes, some of them very important, as Mito being sister-in-law of Ging, instead of his cousin. Or Gon's mother being dead. If Togashi someday decides to show Gon's mother Nippon wouldn't be able to do it. It was still pretty accurate, especially after the first couple of arcs. By no means was it perfect but neither is this adaptation. |
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CloudLiss said: NJZanDatsu said: ninex said: Watch the old version. It´s superior to the new one. That's just your opinion buddy. i disagree and say its fact at least for now FACT? You gotta be kidding me lol. |
Salce said: Trie said: And I'm not sure why they decided to remake the series in the first place. Ive read the manga and watched the first anime series, it was adapted quite accurately. No at all! York Shin was relatively faithful to the manga, but the other arc were very different. Nippon did a lot of changes, some of them very important, as Mito being sister-in-law of Ging, instead of his cousin. Or Gon's mother being dead. If Togashi someday decides to show Gon's mother Nippon wouldn't be able to do it. Yeah, I noticed but it didn't really negatively affect the adaption. And its not like Gon's mom has had any role in his life in the manga so far. If she turns out to be alive, I dont think it will be such a hard thing for viewers of the 1999 anime to swallow. Anime_Name said: Trie said: What i love about H x H is that even though its a shounen/adventure, it has a very distinct dark tone. Which seems to have been dulled in this remake. A duller pallette would help give it a darker tone. It just feels too vibrant at times. True, that would help some. The violence in the 1999 series was already toned down quite a bit for younger viewers. With the way this one looks so far they could probably get away with just rating it PG. Well, the Hunter exam arc is pretty straightforwardly shounen. Im kind of curious to see if they will change the atmosphere during some of the more serious arcs. |
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Trie said: Salce said: Trie said: And I'm not sure why they decided to remake the series in the first place. Ive read the manga and watched the first anime series, it was adapted quite accurately. No at all! York Shin was relatively faithful to the manga, but the other arc were very different. Nippon did a lot of changes, some of them very important, as Mito being sister-in-law of Ging, instead of his cousin. Or Gon's mother being dead. If Togashi someday decides to show Gon's mother Nippon wouldn't be able to do it. Yeah, I noticed but it didn't really negatively affect the adaption. And its not like Gon's mom has had any role in his life in the manga so far. If she turns out to be alive, I dont think it will be such a hard thing for viewers of the 1999 anime to swallow. Actually it does. 1999 series has a tombstone for Gon's mom in the adaptation, and than later finding out she's alive? Is pretty Negative. Also Ging is the one who brought Gon for Mito to take care of. In the 1999 series she gave birth to him on whale Island. Also it gives you the mindset of Gon's mom being related to Mito and also being dead. In the manga Gon's real mom is still out there somewhere and shares no relation to Mito. What I'm saying is 1999 series isn't a reliable source if you want to understand most of the characters development and some people tend to think they could just start reading the Manga from after the GI arc. Well anyways both series have flaws and people should equally enjoy them both. If you like HxH you might as well see the newer series for the sake of HxH... lol |
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What I'm saying is 1999 series isn't a reliable source if you want to understand most of the characters development and some people tend to think they could just start reading the Manga from after the GI arc. Yes it still is. Minor things like a character who may or may not ever be mentioned has not influenced the character development of others at all. Gon thinks his mom is dead either way, what you as a reader feels towards the mystery of Gon's mother isn't also felt by Gon. That 1999 series is very accurate and only has a few notable changes which you are blowing out of proportion. Mito being related by blood to Gon's mother isn't a large part of Mito's character, the important part is her relationship to Gon which is retained very well in the 1999 series. |
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x5exotic said: Well the music is awesome, less violence but It's definitely worth it, It's actually a masterpiece in my opinion the old version actually has more violence in it then the new one, the old one is alot more mature too! |
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quasus said: x5exotic said: Well the music is awesome, less violence but It's definitely worth it, It's actually a masterpiece in my opinion the old version actually has more violence in it then the new one, the old one is alot more mature too! no it doesn't and I'm not gonna back it up..compare it on your own |
pokymon said: quasus said: x5exotic said: Well the music is awesome, less violence but It's definitely worth it, It's actually a masterpiece in my opinion the old version actually has more violence in it then the new one, the old one is alot more mature too! no it doesn't and I'm not gonna back it up..compare it on your own How does it not have more violence? The old version has more arcs due to having more anime only content and within some of those anime only episodes there's violence. Thus, more violence. Hell, the edited/zoomed out Killua scenes is making it rather clear which of the series is more violent. Why argue about the obvious. |
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Anime_Name said: What I'm saying is 1999 series isn't a reliable source if you want to understand most of the characters development and some people tend to think they could just start reading the Manga from after the GI arc. Yes it still is. Minor things like a character who may or may not ever be mentioned has not influenced the character development of others at all. Gon thinks his mom is dead either way, what you as a reader feels towards the mystery of Gon's mother isn't also felt by Gon. That 1999 series is very accurate and only has a few notable changes which you are blowing out of proportion. Mito being related by blood to Gon's mother isn't a large part of Mito's character, the important part is her relationship to Gon which is retained very well in the 1999 series. Look Mito being Gon's mom sister is not a big part of her development? These aren't minor things. Changing someones background story creates plot holes beyond repair. You are making the obvious seem like it has nothing to do with the story. Doesn't matter if Gon thinks his mom is dead or not. 1999 series has her confirmed dead. Manga doesn't. These are facts, beating around the bush isn't gonna change anything. Like i said 1999 series is not something to rely on when it comes to characters development. I'm just pointing it out because the 1999 series isn't perfect. Same with 2011. I'm just saying to watch both of them for the fun of enjoying HxH period. |
noonealive said: Anime_Name said: What I'm saying is 1999 series isn't a reliable source if you want to understand most of the characters development and some people tend to think they could just start reading the Manga from after the GI arc. Yes it still is. Minor things like a character who may or may not ever be mentioned has not influenced the character development of others at all. Gon thinks his mom is dead either way, what you as a reader feels towards the mystery of Gon's mother isn't also felt by Gon. That 1999 series is very accurate and only has a few notable changes which you are blowing out of proportion. Mito being related by blood to Gon's mother isn't a large part of Mito's character, the important part is her relationship to Gon which is retained very well in the 1999 series. Look Mito being Gon's mom sister is not a big part of her development? These aren't minor things. Changing someones background story creates plot holes beyond repair. You are making the obvious seem like it has nothing to do with the story. Doesn't matter if Gon thinks his mom is dead or not. 1999 series has her confirmed dead. Manga doesn't. These are facts, beating around the bush isn't gonna change anything. Like i said 1999 series is not something to rely on when it comes to characters development. I'm just pointing it out because the 1999 series isn't perfect. Same with 2011. I'm just saying to watch both of them for the fun of enjoying HxH period. It's pretty damn minor when it involves minor characters and characters that have never made an appearance in the story. Changing someones background only creates plot holes when something in the story conflicts with the change. The thing that makes any future plot hole unrepairable is that the 1999 series has ended and there will never be any attempt to repair it if something comes up. The manga hasn't mentioned her or confirmed her being not dead. The big part of Mito's development is that she cares for and has raised Gon. Whether she is someones sister or cousin doesn't change her character in an important way. Like I said, the 1999 series is a reliable place to learn about the characters even if a person would also need to know the FEW times it deviates from the source. |
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Anime_Name said: pokymon said: quasus said: x5exotic said: Well the music is awesome, less violence but It's definitely worth it, It's actually a masterpiece in my opinion the old version actually has more violence in it then the new one, the old one is alot more mature too! no it doesn't and I'm not gonna back it up..compare it on your own How does it not have more violence? The old version has more arcs due to having more anime only content and within some of those anime only episodes there's violence. Thus, more violence. Hell, the edited/zoomed out Killua scenes is making it rather clear which of the series is more violent. Why argue about the obvious. 2011 censored killua ripping the heart...but fuck that. Killua killing 2 people is the first thing we see about him that proves he's a killer. It's much more important. You know what the 1999 did? He injured 1 guy, and fought a filler girl. While Gon was getting tortured, there was more blood. Pokkle attacking Ryu, snakes cut to pieces by leorio, his bite wounds. Also in the 1999 series, Hisoka didn't cut the guy's arms to begin with, neither did he decapitate Togari. So yea the 2011 version wins by a mile in that area. |
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