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Mar 23, 7:45 PM
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The Anime has censored the designs of Lilliana and Capella.

The uncensored Light Novel Design of Lilliana.



The censored Anime Design of Lilliana



The uncensored Light Novel Design of Capella.



The censored Anime Design of Capella.



As expected Male characters in the series are left as it is, garfiel with a halfnaked body who is 14 and younger than the two girls who are both adults, was left as he was in season 2.

Light Novel Design Garfiel.



Anime Design Season 3 Garfiel.



It's just the female characters that got censored.

Take however it is, I'm just making observations between differing design.
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Mar 23, 7:48 PM
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Thank God they changed Liliana and Capella's designs. I was never a fan of them in the LN.
Mar 23, 7:50 PM
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It is amazing I used to remember a time when the internet collectively hated censorship, what exactly happened in these short few years that warped everyone?
Mar 23, 7:59 PM
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LN designs are so terrible that they need to be changed. Almost all character designs are different in anime.

The LN Character Designer tried to emphasize his own fetishes, but nobody cares.

Most people only read Webnovels, where there are no images, only text.

Wow, a 14-year-old boy is half shirtless? He should go to the beach. He crazily thinks it's the same as an 10-year-old girl wearing a revealing bikini.

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Mar 23, 8:06 PM
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Anime desine is better. I don't like oversexulised loli character.
Mar 23, 8:16 PM
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I don't find drawn kids hot (even if they are older than universe itself) so... couldn't care less. Not that big of a deal on giving them slightly less revealing clothes, it's not Bikini Warriors.

Even if you can make some argument about the second body type... the first one literally looks like a kid.

Also, even if "she's actually old", doesn't mean she needs to dress up like this. Monster Girl from Invincible is an adult woman that looks like a kid. Literally talks about wanting to have sex and go on dates but can't because of her appearance. Looks like this. Works just as fine as a character even without wearing a BDSM suit


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Mar 23, 8:17 PM
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This change is very sad, apart from the time it will take to get used to the new designs
Mar 23, 8:29 PM
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i don't care about them changing liliana's design but changing capella's is weird, she's not even really a loli and her being half naked kinda fits her character. As a sportsbra enjoyer i won't complain too much though
Mar 23, 8:31 PM
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LN designs are so terrible that they need to be changed. Almost all character designs are different in anime.

The LN Character Designer tried to emphasize his own fetishes, but nobody cares.

Most people only read Webnovels, where there are no images, only text.

Wow, a 14-year-old boy is half shirtless? He should go to the beach. He crazily thinks it's the same as an 10-year-old girl wearing a revealing bikini.
@Okeanix How is the LN character designer terrible? Other than Liliana's design, I see no real reason to dislike him. What's wrong with him making all the girls bombshells
Mar 23, 8:31 PM
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Anime is different then it was 10 years ago you have to pander to western audiences now
Mar 23, 9:04 PM
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Nooooo my heckin' 12-year-old anime girl was redesigned to have slightly more clothes on!!
Mar 23, 9:38 PM
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What about Garfiel is censored?
Mar 23, 10:42 PM
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Ke2nani said:
What about Garfiel is censored?

nothing is that's the point
Mar 23, 10:50 PM
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AcceleratorAngel said:
The Anime has censored the designs of Lilliana and Capella.

The uncensored Light Novel Design of Lilliana.



The censored Anime Design of Lilliana



The uncensored Light Novel Design of Capella.



The censored Anime Design of Capella.



As expected Male characters in the series are left as it is, garfiel with a halfnaked body who is 14 and younger than the two girls who are both adults, was left as he was in season 2.

Light Novel Design Garfiel.



Anime Design Season 3 Garfiel.



It's just the female characters that got censored.

Take however it is, I'm just making observations between differing design.

Its right to censor and alter the designs of some characters ....LN has taken liberty to describe there own desires on these characters....looked either way they are still kids bruh !
And Lillia censored version looks good too!
Mar 23, 10:53 PM
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The difference is that Garfield isn’t wearing a thong, nor does he have any boobs to show off in a tiny bikini top.

Anyways, holy shit this is so fucking peak. Team Don’t Lewd the Lolis just keeps taking W’s 🔥

#dontlewdthelolis #antilolilewdingbrigade #protecc #lolisarefriendsnotporn












(For my own safety, this is a joke. Please don’t send the cartel to my house, lolicons)
Mar 23, 11:56 PM
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Capella reminds me of pecharunt, I don't know why.....
Mar 24, 12:22 AM
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Good changes idk what they were thinking with the originals. Show needs more male characters too imo
Mar 24, 5:28 AM
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Ngl the changes are really good and were needed. For me I wouldnt even call it censoring, these are designs of little girls who needed a design change for the Anime which appeals to a way larger audience. It just wouldnt look appropriate
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LN designs are so terrible that they need to be changed. Almost all character designs are different in anime.

The LN Character Designer tried to emphasize his own fetishes, but nobody cares.

Most people only read Webnovels, where there are no images, only text.

Wow, a 14-year-old boy is half shirtless? He should go to the beach. He crazily thinks it's the same as an 10-year-old girl wearing a revealing bikini.
Okeanix said:
The LN Character Designer tried to emphasize his own fetishes, but nobody cares.


@Okeanix what's the relationship between the LN character designer and the actual author? If Tappei Nagatsuki describes how they look like in the novel, does the character designer then deviate from that, or is there a lot of room for interpretation? I assumed there would be some collaboration with Tappei to try to make the characters match what he intended in his head while writing
Mar 24, 6:25 AM

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Okeanix said:
The LN Character Designer tried to emphasize his own fetishes, but nobody cares.


@Okeanix what's the relationship between the LN character designer and the actual author? If Tappei Nagatsuki describes how they look like in the novel, does the character designer then deviate from that, or is there a lot of room for interpretation? I assumed there would be some collaboration with Tappei to try to make the characters match what he intended in his head while writing
@sucralose_ There a lot of room for interpretation for designs.

Webnovel by Author:
"Liliana is a petite, brown skinned girl with bright yellow hair tied in two tails and big round eyes of the same color. She is mentioned to have lively features and wears revealing clothes, an orange cape, and decorates her hair and body with ornaments that use nuts and animal bones.

Also stated character is 22 years old.

LN Character Designer:


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Mar 24, 7:45 AM
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Those designs in the light novel were garbage. Normally I would want the authors vision to be fully realized/Animated, but the light novel designs for the female characters are garbage, I wouldn’t even like them if they were older, still garbage. As for Garfield I’m not a huge fan of his design but atleast being shirtless has some reasoning. At the end of the day the changes are small and welcomed.
Mar 24, 8:28 AM
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Good! The newer design is better
Mar 24, 9:09 AM

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This thread is so depressing. Censorship is never okay.

I can't believe I have to start being wary of anime that censors the source material.
Mar 24, 9:41 AM

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^Yeah, no, censoring a stripper loli is VERY okay. Great, even.
Mar 24, 9:44 AM

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I don't think you can talk about censorship with such a small change.

It's actually adapted to be easier to animate, transparencies take a lot to keep visually correct in anime.
The same as the skin, many details on the breasts and down are reduced by making it a black block, I prefer those licenses to the plot ones.
Mar 24, 10:01 AM
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If it wasnt intentional censorship, thank you for not making me have to wince in discomfort whenever these 2 characters who are otherwise enjoyable come on screen. If it was intentional, thank you White Fox for angering the worst group of people on the internet (lolicons)
Mar 24, 12:17 PM

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>Be Sin Archbishop of Lust
>Get design censored for being too provocative

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Mar 24, 12:40 PM

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I mean... the LN art is just a fucking picture, you don't have to stare at it on a screen for any length of time. Those original designs veer on trashy, and this isn't ecchi (last I checked) so I'm not bothered by this in the slightest. Plus, I'm going to assume the design of some other characters was also toned down/altered for the anime in general. It's also kind of wild to equate a shirtless boy with stripper lolis, but alright.
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Mar 24, 1:00 PM

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For once I'm quite glad with these censorships (especially Liliana's).

Many novel readers were afraid these two designs would become very controversial to the anime audience.

I also think Capella actually looks better with her censored outfit.
Mar 24, 1:12 PM

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For once I'm quite glad with these censorships (especially Liliana's).

Many novel readers were afraid these two designs would become very controversial to the anime audience.

I also think Capella actually looks better with her censored outfit.
@QcDiablo Yeah, a mainstream anime like this doesn't need that kind of heat, it would be so unnecessary.

I'd be against this type of censorship in a full-blown ecchi, but these redesigns seem perfectly reasonable.
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Mar 24, 1:13 PM

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I won't go as far as saying that you need to be on a particular list if you're upset about these design changes, but if you're upset about these design changes, it speaks volumes. 🐸☕️

And don't hit me with the "ackshually 🤓☝️ they're 4,000 years old," don't care. They still LOOK like and will probably SOUND like little girls, that shit is flat out weird. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Gavinyeet said:
Anime is different then it was 10 years ago you have to pander to western audiences now


Ah yes, pandering is when you tone back the sexualized designs of characters who look like little girls.
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Mar 24, 1:35 PM

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@QcDiablo Nobody with more than two braincells would care in case of a possible twitter controversy, it would just be more publicity for the masses

Also @thebrentinator24 seethe, you won't change the japanese
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Mar 24, 1:37 PM

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@QcDiablo Nobody with more than two braincells would care in case of a possible twitter controversy, it would just be more publicity for the masses

Also @thebrentinator24 seethe, you won't change the japanese
@Erikillo I was never trying to "change the Japanese," whatever the fuck that means.
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Gavinyeet said:
Anime is different then it was 10 years ago you have to pander to western audiences now

Honestly it’s probably because of China and other countries with restrictive censorship laws. In the States Re:Zero would air as part of Adult Swim/Toonami which starts after 9pm and the FCC has different rules for late night tv. With all the blood and death Re:Zero would be rated TV-MA.
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AcceleratorAngel said:
It's just the female characters that got censored.

Emilia got bigger tits so that's a plus.

Capella and Liliana getting "nerfed" is a non issue. Looks fine to me
Mar 24, 3:57 PM

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Good thing Liliana's design got changed but Capella's was fine as it was considering her character.




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Like many have said, this is a dumb comparison. The “adult” characters have a body type of a 8 year old and the male character has a body type that can be presented as an older teen/young adult. The trope of “toddler body / 1000 year old” is getting old and it’s weird; not even trying to moral bait here.

The only censorship that is annoying is adult character/adult body being toned down in their design when the source is mature. But let’s all get passed the shirtless teen vs. toddler in a bikini debate. Mad weird.
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Mar 24, 11:19 PM
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Gavinyeet said:
Anime is different then it was 10 years ago you have to pander to western audiences now

Ah yes, pandering to Western audiences by not sexualizing toddler body types. OH NO!

Anyway, you know this is a poor argument since most of the revenue that the studio/mangaka will get is NOT from the West. We also know writers/studios DO NOT care about the West. I think most people understand that sexualizing body types that a toddler would have is mad weird.
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Mar 25, 12:03 PM
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garbage censorship and suddenly everyone being cool with it
Mar 25, 12:13 PM
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😴😴 It's a drawing
Mar 26, 4:12 AM

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Wow, this kinda makes me glad I dropped this show long ago. A show getting internationally popular just had to turn out this way huh... It also shows in the comments here that a lot of the fanbase are normalfags that would probably celebrate any and all kinds of censorship. It's even more sad to see that the character designer admitted he was forced to make these changes to adhere to international broadcast standards and not because he actually wanted to do so. Forcing artists to go against their artistic visions is a horrible thing to do.
And the redesigns don't even look good. Especially Lilliana's. Shit looks terrible. On the other hand, Capella's change kinda looks fine, before you remember she's supposed to be the Archbishop of Lust, then it becomes awful again.
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Wow, this kinda makes me glad I dropped this show long ago. A show getting internationally popular just had to turn out this way huh... It also shows in the comments here that a lot of the fanbase are normalfags that would probably celebrate any and all kinds of censorship. It's even more sad to see that the character designer admitted he was forced to make these changes to adhere to international broadcast standards and not because he actually wanted to do so. Forcing artists to go against their artistic visions is a horrible thing to do.
And the redesigns don't even look good. Especially Lilliana's. Shit looks terrible. On the other hand, Capella's change kinda looks fine, before you remember she's supposed to be the Archbishop of Lust, then it becomes awful again.
@DarkDooM2 "I dropped this show a long time ago."

"She was supposed to be the Archbishop of Lust." (knowledge based only on the novel)

Are you a 4chan user who complains about Re:Zero every day because the author chose Emilia over Rem?

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Mar 26, 5:55 AM

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@Okeanix I just have a working internet connection, capable of looking up a character in a few seconds. Not to mention the lust part was already mentioned in this very thread.
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@Okeanix I just have a working internet connection, capable of looking up a character in a few seconds. Not to mention the lust part was already mentioned in this very thread.
@DarkDooM2 Capella embodies the opposite end of the lust spectrum. She was intended to evoke a reaction of discomfort, along the lines of "Ugh, why is she like that? It makes me uncomfortable," rather than "Wow, she looks hot in a bikini."

As for Lilliana, there's no narrative justification for her to wear a bikini. The design, which appears to cater to the light novel artist's lolicon fetish, lacks good design. It's possible, however, for adaptations to reinterpret character designs creatively, much like how manga and anime often reimagines characters differently from their light novel representations.

The original source material from the author is a web novel, which does not include illustrations. Subsequent adaptations, including the light novel, manga, and anime (across its first and second seasons), feature distinct designs crafted by different artists. This process of redesign is not unusual; it doesn't imply that adaptations have altered the original author's character designs. For example, Tappei had no predetermined concept of Emilia's appearance until her design was created by someone else.

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Mar 26, 6:28 AM

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I like the second designs better. the transparent fabric looks just sort of unnecessary, and the bikini top is flat out ugly

Mar 26, 6:34 AM

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Okeanix said:
Capella embodies the opposite end of the lust spectrum. She was intended to evoke a reaction of discomfort, along the lines of "Ugh, why is she like that? It makes me uncomfortable," rather than "Wow, she looks hot in a bikini."

Thanks, that's interesting to know.

Okeanix said:
The design, which appears to cater to the light novel artist's lolicon fetish, lacks good design.

Well, that's just your opinion. I disagree, the anime design looks cheap.

Okeanix said:
It's possible, however, for adaptations to reinterpret character designs creatively, much like how manga and anime often reimagines characters differently from their light novel representations.

I agree, however this didn't happen here. It is very obvious that the impetus for change was due to regulations, as has been confirmed by the anime character designer already. It would be a different matter if the change really was just of a creative nature.

Okeanix said:
it doesn't imply that adaptations have altered the original author's character designs

It does though? Just because the author is not also the character designer for the light novel does not mean those aren't the "original" designs. The LN artist works closely together with the author to design and finalize the character designs.
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Obviously the anime designs aren't going to have the same level of detail, especially regarding the transparent clothing, but the censorship and increased fabric cover is disappointing.


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AcceleratorAngel said:
The Anime has censored the designs of Lilliana and Capella.

The uncensored Light Novel Design of Lilliana.



The censored Anime Design of Lilliana



The uncensored Light Novel Design of Capella.



The censored Anime Design of Capella.



As expected Male characters in the series are left as it is, garfiel with a halfnaked body who is 14 and younger than the two girls who are both adults, was left as he was in season 2.

Light Novel Design Garfiel.



Anime Design Season 3 Garfiel.



It's just the female characters that got censored.

Take however it is, I'm just making observations between differing design.

Its right to censor and alter the designs of some characters ....LN has taken liberty to describe there own desires on these characters....looked either way they are still kids bruh !
And Lillia censored version looks good too!
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I won't go as far as saying that you need to be on a particular list if you're upset about these design changes, but if you're upset about these design changes, it speaks volumes. 🐸☕️

And don't hit me with the "ackshually 🤓☝️ they're 4,000 years old," don't care. They still LOOK like and will probably SOUND like little girls, that shit is flat out weird. Period. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Gavinyeet said:
Anime is different then it was 10 years ago you have to pander to western audiences now


Ah yes, pandering is when you tone back the sexualized designs of characters who look like little girls.
@thebrentinator24 You've been here since 2014 and you genuinely think age matters in anime. That is crazy work ngl
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@thebrentinator24 You've been here since 2014 and you genuinely think age matters in anime. That is crazy work ngl
@HajimeNozomiUwU How long I've been on this site has literally nothing to do with the fact that I prefer not to see characters who look like little girls, even if just in appearance only, being sexualized. How this seems to be a controversial opinion is quite something.
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