The Eminence in Shadow (light novel)
Well.... at first I can't understand the season one of the anime but later on in season 2 I started to get the hang of it and now I have pretty much idea about the mentality of the MC and the plot... |
| Huh, but I thought those who watch this series actually understood what they're watching... weird, lmao. 🤣🤣🤣 |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| I thought people were only confused about about how the credit crisis worked. |
| @ShiroHachi In the manga Yukime does tell Cid that Gettan was getting involved with a cult, but he thinks it's just some random cult and still doesn't realize that cult is the Diabolos Cult. Dude's mind is truly built different  |
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| The anime manages to stay amazingly unclear about this, this adds a level of mystery to the comedy because the MC just beeing so dense he thinks everyone is just LARPing for him is so insane its funny. I totally appreciate this. What do you mean "real owner of Mitsugoshi" though? I guess they would give him the money if he asked for it but is he actually the owner legally? |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Reply to StarZone1
Comander-07 said:
The anime manages to stay amazingly unclear about this, this adds a level of mystery to the comedy because the MC just beeing so dense he thinks everyone is just LARPing for him is so insane its funny. I totally appreciate this.
What do you mean "real owner of Mitsugoshi" though? I guess they would give him the money if he asked for it but is he actually the owner legally?
The anime manages to stay amazingly unclear about this, this adds a level of mystery to the comedy because the MC just beeing so dense he thinks everyone is just LARPing for him is so insane its funny. I totally appreciate this.
What do you mean "real owner of Mitsugoshi" though? I guess they would give him the money if he asked for it but is he actually the owner legally?
I get the feeling that this world isn't advanced enough that they have shares and contracts. The girls just use it as a front to fund Shadow Garden and to help infiltrate into places. As they see Cid as the leader of Shadow Garden it would only follow that they would see him as the owner of Mitsugoshi as it's just another part of Shadow Garden to them.
| @StarZone1 yeah that much is obvious, I just thought its odd OP specifically called him the "owner". He has no real connection to the business other than Alpha leading it. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Reply to Dan_ALves
Thank you for that explanation. I always keep forgetting he doesn´t know anything. I mean, how could he not know Mitsugoshi is his? Everything those girls do belongs to him. Does he even know that Shadow Garden is real and not just some make-believe thing that the girls play with him as a thank you for saving them?
On this recent arc, I just didn´t understand the economics side of it, I pretty much understood that he wanted to take down both conglomerates and then create one to have all the money for himself. And as for the stolen knowledge, is it really stolen? He told them things, were they not supposed to do anything with it?
And why does he want all that money? Does he have some goal for it or does he just want to have money to say he has it?
On this recent arc, I just didn´t understand the economics side of it, I pretty much understood that he wanted to take down both conglomerates and then create one to have all the money for himself. And as for the stolen knowledge, is it really stolen? He told them things, were they not supposed to do anything with it?
And why does he want all that money? Does he have some goal for it or does he just want to have money to say he has it?
| @Dan_ALves in cid pov he simply told them this knolwedge and they went to make millions of it without giving him a bit. and he want money for simple reasons, he plan to live 300 years and comfortably at that so he obviously need money for it. also he often showcase greediness. |
| spiritual successor of lord rothchild. |
Reply to Dan_ALves
@Cielord So in his way of thinking, it´s his knowledge, so everything that is achieved with his knowledge belongs to him, is that it?
| @Dan_ALves he shared this knowledge with them and he see it like that. that he think that he deserve some of the share of the profits the girls got isn't that wild. if you want to argue to that it's still dishonorable or something that is moral/ethic debate which i don't really wanna get into. also his emotions toward it boil down to simple envy or annoyance. |
| spiritual successor of lord rothchild. |
| Don't get me wrong I truly think The Eminence in Shadow is extremely entertaining to watch and I don't doubt there are obvious inconsistencies between the source material and the Anime adaptation. Taking the Anime at face value and the fact the Light Novel is still on-going, it would be extremely premature to assume anything about what is actually really going on in this story. There is too much that is unexplained and the fact that the protagonist made up the entire story about the cult of diablos and then it's existence suddenly becomes reality is suspicious at best. Though I have this strange feeling of how the entire story could eventually end. Just picture this for a moment, Cid Kagenou sitting in a mental institution in front of a TV watching some generic Isekai Anime while lightly mumbling over and over again repeating "I am atomic". Basically the entire story could likely be chalked up to be just a figment of Cid Kagenou's imagination. The fact that Cid Kagenou is basically psychotic and a textbook sociopath is all the more believable that this could be the case. Also the OP between the 1st season and 2nd season always shows Cid as a kid sitting in front of a TV. |
ColourWheelNov 23, 2023 7:58 PM
| That he's still oblivious to everything is what's making me lose interest. it's just cringy comedy now. He's just an oblivious side char. "ignorance in shadow" is more like it. |
Reply to remechan
ColourWheel said:
There is too much that is unexplained and the fact that the protagonist made up the entire story about the cult of diablos and then it's existence suddenly becomes reality is suspicious at best.
There is too much that is unexplained and the fact that the protagonist made up the entire story about the cult of diablos and then it's existence suddenly becomes reality is suspicious at best.
Not exactly. As usual Cid gives vague explanations. Everyone else fills in the blanks. It's the same with his so-called "knowledge". It's not like he really in-detailed mentioned how to build anything.
It's the same with things like predicting your future. If you give a vague answer to a room of people you actually have a high chance of getting a lot of it "right".
| @remechan Yeah, but for everything to be coincidently right or for everything that happens always unfold perfectly and just works out is too idealistic for an Anime that tries to take itself this seriously. I am not trying to claim I know anything for a fact but it feels to me like the Author wanted to make a serious story only to realize how cringe their creation turned out. But since it became a success and there was a demand for it, the Author just keep the story going but toned down the seriousness to the point they started giving characters names like "Ketsuhat" aka "Perv Asshat". I still wouldn't rule out when the day comes and the Author gets tired of their own creation they might just end things with Cid sitting in some mental institution watching some generic Isekai Anime playing on a TV. Where everything that has happened previously in the entire series ends up being just a figment of Cid's imagination. Not only would this type of conclusion to the story be fitting but it would also make everything make sense in the end. Sure it might be a lazy way for the story to end but still fitting. Also how would you explain away Cid's "Eminence in Shadow Collection" from the 4th episode of the 1st season where he has "French" wine glasses and a vintage bottle of wine he claims is "French" too (one would assume they are made in France without any other explanation). The painting he put on his bedroom wall was clearly a famous Vincent Van Gogh painting too. Did these random items get isekaied as well? It's also stated Cid bought those items with "Zeni" which is the "Other World's" currency there. So where did he buy them from and from whom? |
ColourWheelNov 30, 2023 9:52 PM
Reply to RIRafi
ColourWheel said:
Don't get me wrong I truly think The Eminence in Shadow is extremely entertaining to watch and I don't doubt there are obvious inconsistencies between the source material and the Anime adaptation. Taking the Anime at face value and the fact the Light Novel is still on-going, it would be extremely premature to assume anything about what is actually really going on in this story.
There is too much that is unexplained and the fact that the protagonist made up the entire story about the cult of diablos and then it's existence suddenly becomes reality is suspicious at best.
Though I have this strange feeling of how the entire story could eventually end. Just picture this for a moment, Cid Kagenou sitting in a mental institution in front of a TV watching some generic Isekai Anime while lightly mumbling over and over again repeating "I am atomic". Basically the entire story could likely be chalked up to be just a figment of Cid Kagenou's imagination. The fact that Cid Kagenou is basically psychotic and a textbook sociopath is all the more believable that this could be the case. Also the OP between the 1st season and 2nd season always shows Cid as a kid sitting in front of a TV.
Don't get me wrong I truly think The Eminence in Shadow is extremely entertaining to watch and I don't doubt there are obvious inconsistencies between the source material and the Anime adaptation. Taking the Anime at face value and the fact the Light Novel is still on-going, it would be extremely premature to assume anything about what is actually really going on in this story.
There is too much that is unexplained and the fact that the protagonist made up the entire story about the cult of diablos and then it's existence suddenly becomes reality is suspicious at best.
Though I have this strange feeling of how the entire story could eventually end. Just picture this for a moment, Cid Kagenou sitting in a mental institution in front of a TV watching some generic Isekai Anime while lightly mumbling over and over again repeating "I am atomic". Basically the entire story could likely be chalked up to be just a figment of Cid Kagenou's imagination. The fact that Cid Kagenou is basically psychotic and a textbook sociopath is all the more believable that this could be the case. Also the OP between the 1st season and 2nd season always shows Cid as a kid sitting in front of a TV.
Bro. no way... I had the exact same thoughts about the ending while watching today's episode. That it's all his imagination....
RIRafi said: Bro. no way... I had the exact same thoughts about the ending while watching today's episode. That it's all his imagination.... Without the Author giving out more context about everything unexplained being left in complete ambiguity anyone could pull anything out of their ass to explain misunderstandings about the plot or Cid. People might not like the conclusion I came up with, even before I finished watching the 1st season, but everything to me seems to point to the entire story just being a complete fantasy inside Cid's mind. Maybe I went a little further in suggestion he could be in a mental institution as well just sitting in front of a TV watching Anime, but it would perfectly fit the whole theme that features Cid in front of a TV in the OP in season 1 and 2. All the more the fact that no doubt Cid is completely psychotic and undoubtedly a complete sociopath. It would totally make sense in reality he is in a mental institution playing this fantasy in his mind like it's a TV show. The series features Cid's alter ego as an over powered vigilante without a cause other than for the sake of being one. Cid's life goals amount to videogame achievements in this fantasy world and basically plays out every scenario he is in like he is actually playing one. Even the ending of the 1st Season after he is done playing the piano he says "Yeah, I think I will do it like that... Next time.", as if everything that happened in the story hasn't even unfolded yet. As if he is planning to play thing out the way the Audience has just sat through watching and experienced. |
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