new PV airing july 8, 2023

neffst3r said:
Shinji's Bankai looks great, holy shit.
That wasn't in the manga.

k11chi said:
A LOT of Can't Fear Your Own World elements are in this trailer.

- BANKAI SHINJI
- THE ORIGINAL SIN (multiple frames of the mutilation)

ShamankinguYoh said:
Barely looks changed from the manga, and this was by far one of the worst parts in the series.

ShamankinguYoh said:
I really can’t wait until this whole project ends so we can finally move on from this series.

ShamankinguYoh said:
Barely looks changed from the manga, and this was by far one of the worst parts in the series. I really can’t wait until this whole project ends so we can finally move on from this series.

TheBladeIsMe said:

>Soul King flashbacks which indicate greater lore and worldbuilding revelations, if not straight up incorporation of content from the Can't Fear Your Own World LN sequel (which you haven't read and thus will not comprehend the value of to the Bleach narrative) into the next 3 cours (especially the third and fourth, when the worlds begin to crumble).
>Entirely brand new scenes in the trailer like the Sternritters inside Aizen's palace
>Every fight is being extended, backed by state-of-the-art audiovisuals and direction
>New fight involving Shinji's Bankai
>Looks even better than cour 1, as was anticipated
>Already looks better than MAPPA's soulless JJK

If you were expecting a complete revision of the plot then I don't know what to tell you; your expectations were retarded.



Who's "we"? I notice you orbit the Bleach threads constantly seething about this series, yet you seem incapable of putting it down, even rereading the manga multiple times. Why is that? You aren't even the target demographic of this anime, this is for new and veteran existing fans of the series. Bleach is not for you.

This franchise isn't going anywhere after the new adaptation either. CFYOW is potentially set to receive an anime adaptation, the Hell arc will continue, Burn the Witch will continue, etc and you will consume them all. I'll be seeing you in the future.

TheBladeIsMe said:

>Soul King flashbacks which indicate greater lore and worldbuilding revelations, if not straight up incorporation of content from the Can't Fear Your Own World LN sequel (which you haven't read and thus will not comprehend the value of to the Bleach narrative) into the next 3 cours (especially the third and fourth, when the worlds begin to crumble).
>Entirely brand new scenes in the trailer like the Sternritters inside Aizen's palace
>Every fight is being extended, backed by state-of-the-art audiovisuals and direction
>New fight involving Shinji's Bankai
>Looks even better than cour 1, as was anticipated
>Already looks better than MAPPA's soulless JJK

If you were expecting a complete revision of the plot then I don't know what to tell you; your expectations were retarded.

Makimawoof said:
Can never look better than CSM though cope, and sajin's bankai CGi looks atrocious, Ps1 CGI lmao, repeated loop animation cgi hollows and skeltons lmao gloss over everything, looks bad ngl

Early_Morning said:
The trailer looked good, but I'm still dreading these episodes since this cour is adapting my least favorite part of the arc. Also while I'm glad that we're indeed getting Shinji's Bankai in this series, I can't help but feel salty that we never saw it in the manga. Also I really hate that shot of the Sternritter sitting down at that table since it's basically a rip-off of the Espada table scene; it doesn't even feel nostalgic, it just feels like a tacky way of reminding people of something that Aizen and the Espada did so much better.

neffst3r said:
Dude is a pain in the ass, always making sure to shit on everything new Bleach-related.
I remember him talking nonsense in Part 1 threads while it was airing lmao, probably just mad a series he hate is back on spotlight again.

DreadfulControl said:
I think this will be even more boring than the previous season.

Early_Morning said:
The trailer looked good, but I'm still dreading these episodes since this cour is adapting my least favorite part of the arc. Also while I'm glad that we're indeed getting Shinji's Bankai in this series, I can't help but feel salty that we never saw it in the manga. Also I really hate that shot of the Sternritter sitting down at that table since it's basically a rip-off of the Espada table scene; it doesn't even feel nostalgic, it just feels like a tacky way of reminding people of something that Aizen and the Espada did so much better.

neffst3r said:
So... Part 1 was boring? Good thing that's just what you think.
Some people think the Earth is flat, too.

Gotta agree with that one tho, I don't even remember that frame from the manga, pretty sure it's anime original. However, I'm happy to see more interaction between the Sternritter, which is a issue I believe the manga had and it seems it'll get solved in the anime.

TheBladeIsMe said:
AotY 2023 will be airing on July 8

Makimawoof said:
Can never look better than CSM though cope, and sajin's bankai CGi looks atrocious, Ps1 CGI lmao, repeated loop animation cgi hollows and skeltons lmao gloss over everything, looks bad ngl

TheBladeIsMe said:

>Soul King flashbacks which indicate greater lore and worldbuilding revelations, if not straight up incorporation of content from the Can't Fear Your Own World LN sequel (which you haven't read and thus will not comprehend the value of to the Bleach narrative) into the next 3 cours (especially the third and fourth, when the worlds begin to crumble).
>Entirely brand new scenes in the trailer like the Sternritters inside Aizen's palace
>Every fight is being extended, backed by state-of-the-art audiovisuals and direction
>New fight involving Shinji's Bankai
>Looks even better than cour 1, as was anticipated
>Already looks better than MAPPA's soulless JJK

If you were expecting a complete revision of the plot then I don't know what to tell you; your expectations were retarded.

ShamankinguYoh said:
Barely looks changed from the manga, and this was by far one of the worst parts in the series. I really can’t wait until this whole project ends so we can finally move on from this series.

TheBladeIsMe said:

>Soul King flashbacks which indicate greater lore and worldbuilding revelations, if not straight up incorporation of content from the Can't Fear Your Own World LN sequel (which you haven't read and thus will not comprehend the value of to the Bleach narrative) into the next 3 cours (especially the third and fourth, when the worlds begin to crumble).
>Entirely brand new scenes in the trailer like the Sternritters inside Aizen's palace
>Every fight is being extended, backed by state-of-the-art audiovisuals and direction
>New fight involving Shinji's Bankai
>Looks even better than cour 1, as was anticipated
>Already looks better than MAPPA's soulless JJK

If you were expecting a complete revision of the plot then I don't know what to tell you; your expectations were retarded.



Who's "we"? I notice you orbit the Bleach threads constantly seething about this series, yet you seem incapable of putting it down, even rereading the manga multiple times. Why is that? You aren't even the target demographic of this anime, this is for new and veteran existing fans of the series. Bleach is not for you.

This franchise isn't going anywhere after the new adaptation either. CFYOW is potentially set to receive an anime adaptation, the Hell arc will continue, Burn the Witch will continue, etc and you will consume them all. I'll be seeing you in the future.

TheBladeIsMe said:
Nah, you can stop forcing this (actual) cope of bad CGI in Bleach already because most CSMshills have jumped ship at this point after the series proved to be a failure in all fronts. If Bleach looks better than JJK then it's obviously superior to CSM, since JJK is objectively 10x better than it and MAPPA knows it. Dogshit directing, bad voice acting, forgettable sound, censorship, actual PS1 CGI, janky fan-animations for every fight etc etc; the production failed miserably to try and save the nonexistent story and atrocious dialogue. All the budget went into Aki's morning routine lol.

ovo4 said:


I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not but I’m honestly baffled by your last point and somewhat doubting your point before that.

Compared to jjk s1, bleach has more ambitious compositing and an overall better aesthetic. I’d even go as far as to say it has higher peaks in terms of direction. Animation wise, jjk was far more consistent and its peaks are up there with bleach’s too.

Compared to the jjk s2 PVs shown so far tho, you couldn’t be any more wrong. Vastly improved aesthetic which while simpler, is just as strong as bleach’s but without the negatives that bleach compositing had in cour 1 (going overboard on the hand drawn effects for example). I don’t want to use the PVs as a way to compare the animation itself but I’ve yet to see a single cut in this new PV that has matched the highs of JJK’s PV (but I’ll give bleach the benefit of the doubt because it didn’t show any of the big fights like gremmy vs kenpachi).

Ideally we should all be able to watch both shows without comparing them to each other in a negative light but somehow that’s expecting too much from people.

Regarding your second to last point. Yoshihiro kanno left after cour 1 and damn near every well-animated action scene from s1 (outside of the ones involving hiroyuki yamashita) was because of him. So obviously you can see how his departure would negatively affect cour 2. His replacements aren’t too hot either so there’s that too. We’ll just have to hope that they found some solid action animators for the second cour.

ovo4 said:


I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not but I’m honestly baffled by your last point and somewhat doubting your point before that.

Compared to jjk s1, bleach has more ambitious compositing and an overall better aesthetic. I’d even go as far as to say it has higher peaks in terms of direction. Animation wise, jjk was far more consistent and its peaks are up there with bleach’s too.

Compared to the jjk s2 PVs shown so far tho, you couldn’t be any more wrong. Vastly improved aesthetic which while simpler, is just as strong as bleach’s but without the negatives that bleach compositing had in cour 1 (going overboard on the hand drawn effects for example). I don’t want to use the PVs as a way to compare the animation itself but I’ve yet to see a single cut in this new PV that has matched the highs of JJK’s PV (but I’ll give bleach the benefit of the doubt because it didn’t show any of the big fights like gremmy vs kenpachi).

Ideally we should all be able to watch both shows without comparing them to each other in a negative light but somehow that’s expecting too much from people.

Regarding your second to last point. Yoshihiro kanno left after cour 1 and damn near every well-animated action scene from s1 (outside of the ones involving hiroyuki yamashita) was because of him. So obviously you can see how his departure would negatively affect cour 2. His replacements aren’t too hot either so there’s that too. We’ll just have to hope that they found some solid action animators for the second cour.

Emblemz said:
I'm not too fond of Taguchi's art direction. The Dark Red BG clashes pretty hard with the blue highlights. I think the composition overall is solid but feels too ambitious due to them having to deal with so many details, characters, effects and so on. So the animation still feels like it's going to be limited.

As a fellow Bleach fan, it's little sad that other fans are propping up the visuals like they're supposedly next level while bring down JJK which has opted for an entirely different approach. Cuz honestly, the Bleach trailer is a tad disspointing visually but you or I are willing to give benefit of the doubt but fanboys want to be intentionally obnoxious.

Fa5P said:
For sure you were one of those people saying that bleach's animation was going to be better than csm and we know how that turned out even if you accept it or not

ovo4 said:


I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not but I’m honestly baffled by your last point and somewhat doubting your point before that.

Compared to jjk s1, bleach has more ambitious compositing and an overall better aesthetic. I’d even go as far as to say it has higher peaks in terms of direction. Animation wise, jjk was far more consistent and its peaks are up there with bleach’s too.

Compared to the jjk s2 PVs shown so far tho, you couldn’t be any more wrong. Vastly improved aesthetic which while simpler, is just as strong as bleach’s but without the negatives that bleach compositing had in cour 1 (going overboard on the hand drawn effects for example). I don’t want to use the PVs as a way to compare the animation itself but I’ve yet to see a single cut in this new PV that has matched the highs of JJK’s PV (but I’ll give bleach the benefit of the doubt because it didn’t show any of the big fights like gremmy vs kenpachi).

Ideally we should all be able to watch both shows without comparing them to each other in a negative light but somehow that’s expecting too much from people.

Regarding your second to last point. Yoshihiro kanno left after cour 1 and damn near every well-animated action scene from s1 (outside of the ones involving hiroyuki yamashita) was because of him. So obviously you can see how his departure would negatively affect cour 2. His replacements aren’t too hot either so there’s that too. We’ll just have to hope that they found some solid action animators for the second cour.

Emblemz said:
As a fellow Bleach fan

TheBladeIsMe said:
@Fa5P Buddy is having a manic attack because I called JJK soulless and said Bleach looks better (it is and it does lol). Embarrassing. Fortunately I addressed most of your spergouts indirectly since you have a very annoying way of typing I don't want want to reply to 5 ugly consecutive walls of text with poor syntax from you.

This is the funniest cope of all time:

TheBladeIsMe said:
"Vastly improved aesthetic which while simpler" is cope for an inferior, simplified art style which based off the trailers hasn't even enabled the better animation from S1 to vindicate the noticeable downgrade in design. I don't see what's vastly improved about it. If it's trying to pull a Mob Psycho then it's already failed because Mob Psycho's simple art style is far better integrated into the general aesthetic that the art direction feels like an actual stylistic choice which enables fluid animation by consequence as opposed to a utilitarian shift actively trying to accomplish it like JJK S2. JJK has no aesthetic to begin with unless you call MAPPA's corporate, inexpressive and uninspired 'realism' an aesthetic; in which case realism doesn't mix well with undetailed simplicity, hence why people "mistake" the new season as just looking cheaper; especially when you have flat-looking characters interacting in realistic-looking environments.

JJK looks like a generic anime compared to Bleach, which actually has a pronounced and highly defined aesthetic. Its stylistic design choice makes it more expressive and thus impactful through exceptional use of things like dynamic lighting, which are particularly advantageous to an emotional genre like battle shounen. You need to do mental gymnastics to explain why an average still shot of JJK is actually visually "just as strong" as one from Bleach, let alone more visually appealing. Even if Bleach's animation is inferior to JJK's, it would still look better like I said because it has a better art style, better compositing, better direction and better background art; as animation is only one factor to visual quality. I don't think JJK is ugly, but I do think it's soulless compared to Bleach.

Regarding your statement about TYBW cour 2 animation; Taguchi, Hiramatsu and the animation team have already promised even better animation for cour 2 than their incredible work during cour 1. Based on the new trailer, they seem to be fulfilling that promise. This shouldn't be baffling when animators aren't being spread thin like they were in fall 2022. All the scenes in the new trailer like Bazz-B's projectile blast generally look more fluid than the fights in the first 5 episodes of cour 1 and we've yet to see the main theatres of this cour which is where most of the resources will be poured. But a more "stacked" staff doesn't always guarantee a higher quality product anyway, and all you have to do is take a look at Chainsaw Man, which had the most stacked team in the entire season but everyone still saw it come out as the ugliest high-profile title, in large part due to its debilitating direction.

Cope.

TheBladeIsMe said:
"Vastly improved aesthetic which while simpler" is cope for an inferior, simplified art style which based off the trailers hasn't even enabled the better animation from S1 to vindicate the noticeable downgrade in design. I don't see what's vastly improved about it. If it's trying to pull a Mob Psycho then it's already failed because Mob Psycho's simple art style is far better integrated into the general aesthetic that the art direction feels like an actual stylistic choice which enables fluid animation by consequence as opposed to a utilitarian shift actively trying to accomplish it like JJK S2. JJK has no aesthetic to begin with unless you call MAPPA's corporate, inexpressive and uninspired 'realism' an aesthetic; in which case realism doesn't mix well with undetailed simplicity, hence why people "mistake" the new season as just looking cheaper; especially when you have flat-looking characters interacting in realistic-looking environments.

JJK looks like a generic anime compared to Bleach, which actually has a pronounced and highly defined aesthetic. Its stylistic design choice makes it more expressive and thus impactful through exceptional use of things like dynamic lighting, which are particularly advantageous to an emotional genre like battle shounen. You need to do mental gymnastics to explain why an average still shot of JJK is actually visually "just as strong" as one from Bleach, let alone more visually appealing. Even if Bleach's animation is inferior to JJK's, it would still look better like I said because it has a better art style, better compositing, better direction and better background art; as animation is only one factor to visual quality. I don't think JJK is ugly, but I do think it's soulless compared to Bleach.

Regarding your statement about TYBW cour 2 animation; Taguchi, Hiramatsu and the animation team have already promised even better animation for cour 2 than their incredible work during cour 1. Based on the new trailer, they seem to be fulfilling that promise. This shouldn't be baffling when animators aren't being spread thin like they were in fall 2022. All the scenes in the new trailer like Bazz-B's projectile blast generally look more fluid than the fights in the first 5 episodes of cour 1 and we've yet to see the main theatres of this cour which is where most of the resources will be poured. But a more "stacked" staff doesn't always guarantee a higher quality product anyway, and all you have to do is take a look at Chainsaw Man, which had the most stacked team in the entire season but everyone still saw it come out as the ugliest high-profile title, in large part due to its debilitating direction.

Oongbuh said:
Of course the comment section is filled with braindead people trying to claim JJK and CSM are "poorly-made". Because Bleach fans saw AOT having the crown of the most obnoxious fandom ever and said "hey, hey, I want a piece of that, too!"

Furyo_enjoyer said:
@TheBladeIsMe lol I'm more excited about Bleach because it's one of my favorites but it will never do the numbers of Jujutsu Kaisen. JJK movie made like 200M in the box office, it's mainstream. Bleach never did that even at the top of its popularity

JJK, KnY and Spy Family are in a tier of their own right now in Japan. But Bleach will be the most hype for us fans obviously