What made Eren disappointed?

RaidenSteiner said:
So I didn't understood that when i read the manga and neither do I do now, why was Eren disappointed that there are humans living outside of wall?
For more context, in the half later half of episode Eren saves a pocket theft dude and confess to him some of his sins he is about to do in future, he acknoledges to him that he's doing it because he is disappointed, somewhat along the lines "When i found out there are humans living outside of walls I was so disappointed".

So why was he disappointed? It was his boomer way of saying "on my days, we had to leave the walls and risk our lives just to eat dinner and those new lazy generations have it granted?" or did he disliked the idea that there are more races and cultures than the Eldian one? Was he disappointed that there are more people in the world than he originally thought?! What do you think made him so disappointed about it?

neeJay05 said:
My take on this is: He said he was disappointed that people lived outside the wall right? But why? Well, you have to remember the terror, grief, and fear and fighting all the titans they went through, just for them to figure out that the outside world was the one responsible for all that suffering. He imagined the world outside of the walls is all beautiful landscapes just like in armin's book but nope, the outside world is all people too, and their suffering was simply because of them. That's why he's disappointed imo.

RaidenSteiner said:
understandable that makes sense, tho technically there were still a lot of beatufiul landscapes in the world.. till Eren's rumbling stomped over most of them and deforested the whole world.
Afaik they explored some of the world in the 4 years skip tho

RaidenSteiner said:
So I didn't understood that when i read the manga and neither do I do now, why was Eren disappointed that there are humans living outside of wall?
For more context, in the half later half of episode Eren saves a pocket theft dude and confess to him some of his sins he is about to do in future, he acknoledges to him that he's doing it because he is disappointed, somewhat along the lines "When i found out there are humans living outside of walls I was so disappointed".

So why was he disappointed? It was his boomer way of saying "on my days, we had to leave the walls and risk our lives just to eat dinner and those new lazy generations have it granted?" or did he disliked the idea that there are more races and cultures than the Eldian one? Was he disappointed that there are more people in the world than he originally thought?! What do you think made him so disappointed about it?

RandomPerson9348 said:
Eren kills all the Titans and accepts the suffering he has to go through because one of his main goals was to see the outside world with his friends.

He isn't disappointed because there are more enemies beyond the wall. He's disappointed because his suffering was for "nothing". Imagine you've been trying to set a world record for 2 years, and then suddenly, some guy comes out of nowhere and gets the record before you.

That's what has happened according to Eren. He believed that he was the one who would bring freedom to mankind. His disappointment was finding out that all of humanity was already free.


P.S. - Spoiler territory beyond this (if you haven't read the manga).

Lightsrevenge said:

So basically he has a savior complex? This is the first explanation I read that actually made sense to me. I also think it’s gotta be tough to think all that time that they are suffering and held captive in those walls and to realize other people are free walking around without a care.

thunderkitten13 said:
I don’t even get this part. He saw the ENTIRE WORLD and thought it all was bad, evil, full of hate? You go ANYWHERE in the world and you’ll find some people that are sweet, kind, have empathy, and appreciate peace and beauty. The problem is they were unlucky enough to have been born in certain countries with governments that are solely designed to oppress and suppress, but otherwise the people actually appreciate life. Eren is talking like a 12 year old edgelord saying he was disappointed, like an entitled brat disdained he didn’t see everyone holding hands and singing in a giant circle. You would think someone like him who grew up hard would have learned to find the light in the darkest situations and in people. But no, Eren merely condemns everyone like a judgmental God. Good thing Eren is so perfect, all knowing, and all powerful…

Bhaskar_Singh said:


You're clueless of pretty much everything that happens in the show, quite indicative in your writing. Regardless, how precisely finding people that are sweet and cute and hot and whatever crap you have written should have any impact on his perception of the world?

What should he consider there unfortunate birth in the places governed by the entities with the aforementioned political structure and make allowances in his plan of action?

How exactly not doing any of this makes him a 12 year old or edge lord in his contemporary state?

thunderkitten13 said:

bruh…

HE’S AN EDGELORD FOR COMITTING GLOBAL GENOCIDE.

Also, you say I don’t understand and present nothing to counter my points with info from the story. You are one of a so many other replies I’ve gotten where they say “you just don’t get it” even though I have done my research on this and consumed hours and hours on the topic.

Back to my point though, he gave up on trying to create a bridge of understanding with the outside world to enable cooperation and just said “Wah, world evil. Must kill world”. How convenient for him, wouldn’t we all just like to eliminate everything that gives us a headache. No, the human condition is about COMPROMISE, coming to terms with mortality and learning to pursue evolution/progression of ideas. Imagine if every story we ever read ended with “and the problem was killed and everyone lived happily ever after”. No, the best stories demonstrate that problems are NUANCED and not black and white, that there is fault in our judgments and hypocrisy of our beliefs, but the greatest stories helps us to LEARN from all of these to better ourselves and sharpen our values. That is literally how humanity has evolved spiritually, physically, and mentally. We never got RID of our problems, we ADAPTED to them. We must learn because there’s literally no alternative except stagnation and endless war, and is war and genocide ever justified? But according to AOT fans, it is. Eren deserved to eliminate more than half of humanity…because they weren’t up to his “standards”…

Bhaskar_Singh said:

How to create bridge of understanding with outside world?

mapleter said:
You don't. But if you can show that you are not Eldian with blood test, then they can't know that you are Eldians. So you remove the titan curse and the blood test would make people think u are human, not Eldian, assuming u don't stay on the island.

Bhaskar_Singh said:

Blood test can distinct Eldian from others.
You're approach will require all of them to leave the island and try blending in with outside world.  Will be extremely challenging with Marley's watch. Not to mention rumbling started in the middle of battle with Marley. If it did not start , the island was done for. Most Rumbling work arounds are just not sustainable. Any sort of compromise will be a disadvantage. World's perception of Eldians is too bad to accept them as equals. This is something that can be solved but time is of the essence. Marley is already in a middle of snatching away the Titan Power. There is no cooperation from the outside world,. particularly Marley.