Wandering Witch: The Journey of Elaina (light novel)
| Thanks for the explanation. Honestly, I somehow knew that episode could be less or more different from the original but I didn't think that important character would be missing. |
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| I definitely need to read the LN! I suspected this when watching the anime. Often the episodes seemed rushed and seemed to be missing important details. The anime is all right, but the last episode was absolutely rushed. |
| Damn, the episode was still good and the message is still there but, it would have been better if they followed the novel. |
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| Damn now I feel like I really missed out on something. Better start reading the LN ig. |
Who's the girl that appeared at the end of the show? Will we ever get a season 2? Let's just hope the changes that they made to the show will not cause the show to deviate too much from the LN that would eventually impact S2.  how does it feel to voice the whole episode by yourself, sasuga kaeda chan, so OP |
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| @ShiroHachi You said that MC Elaina didn't travel back in time in the city of Rostolf , But she did right ? When she helped Estelle to bring back her friend . So how come it doesn't make sense that MC Elaina asked Violent Elaina if she wants to hear the story of travelling 10 years back in time when she already did that ( MC Elaina ) ? Pls explain cuz I'm confused . |
| Maybe they changed things to make it more suiting for a season that will end? tho I didn't read your post to avoid spoilers and will read after I finish reading LN Volume 3 |
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Kiev said: Her name is Amnesia as Elaina said in that episode. She is an important character if season 2 happens, she is one of the recurring characters who will continue to appear like Saya, Sheila and Fran-senseiWho's the girl that appeared at the end of the show? Will we ever get a season 2? Let's just hope the changes that they made to the show will not cause the show to deviate too much from the LN that would eventually impact S2. how does it feel to voice the whole episode by yourself, sasuga kaeda chan, so OP |
ShiroHachi said: Iamanotakuuu said: that's the scene that changed in the anime, in the LN Violent Elaina asked MC Elaina if she wants to hear the story of travelling 10 years back in time, not MC Elaina. Elaina in episode 9 was not MC Elaina but Violent Elaina, MC Elaina came from the timeline that was changed by Violent Elaina and Estelle where Selena was killed 10 years ago because of Estelle. This is the LN scene about what happened in Rostolf city from MC Elaina's point of view:@ShiroHachi You said that MC Elaina didn't travel back in time in the city of Rostolf , But she did right ? When she helped Estelle to bring back her friend . So how come it doesn't make sense that MC Elaina asked Violent Elaina if she wants to hear the story of travelling 10 years back in time when she already did that ( MC Elaina ) ? Pls explain cuz I'm confused . "The clock tower stood in the middle of the city, featured prominently in local theater, and was lovely to look at. It made an appearance in the popular play Estelle of District Two, which was perfect for killing time. The play depicted the life of a witch named Estelle, who came to hate evil from the bottom of her heart after her best friend was murdered when she was young. The throwaway ending was a little disappointing, when she said, “Until I find the culprit who killed my best friend, her struggle is not over,” but it was at least good for staving off boredom." You saw the difference, right? MC Elaina didn't help Estelle in this timeline because Selena was already killed 10 years ago So MC Elaina didn't go back in time and help Estelle and she just went to that city and saw the play of Estelle ? and the one that helped Estelle go back in time was Violent Elaina and because of that she couldn't restore her hair back when it was stolen ? So we basically saw Violent Elaina in episode 9 but didn't continue with her story afterwards right ? |
ShiroHachi said: Kiev said: Her name is Amnesia as Elaina said in that episode. She is an important character if season 2 happens, she is one of the recurring characters who will continue to appear like Saya, Sheila and Fran-senseiWho's the girl that appeared at the end of the show? Will we ever get a season 2? Let's just hope the changes that they made to the show will not cause the show to deviate too much from the LN that would eventually impact S2. how does it feel to voice the whole episode by yourself, sasuga kaeda chan, so OP I can recognize a person of culture just from that player. |
| @ShiroHachi Alright thanks man I understood what happened , If I have more questions about it I'll ask you :D . |
| Thank you for the post! Interesting. |
| the ln seems really good, thanks for this explanation!! |
| Thank you for taking the time to explain everything ! But I still have a question (sorry if it has already been asked) : does it mean the Elaina we saw in Episode 9 isn't the Elaina we normally follow, but Violent Elaina ? If so does that mean that unlike the other Elaina, Violent Elaina is almost exactly like MC Elaina, with the difference that she experienced trauma ? So does this imply that MC Elaina would have reacted just as violently if she experienced said trauma ? @ShiroHachi I see, thanks for answering |
FafetteDec 26, 2020 12:34 PM
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| its still confused me. so eps 12 is telling us that each episode (or arc idk) sometime have different Elaina from different timeline? are they gonna keep playing with alternate timeline? whats this show all about? i cant really track the timeline, theres 6 moths later, 10 years later, 10 year past, its like they scatter the pieces of the story, at first i dont really give a damn but eps 12 and this post making me mad for not understanding, i have a smol brain |
| Looks like I’ll have to read the novels at some point. |
| Sasuke or Kaneki I can't decide |
ShiroHachi said: Iamanotakuuu said: that's the scene that changed in the anime, in the LN Violent Elaina asked MC Elaina if she wants to hear the story of travelling 10 years back in time, not MC Elaina. Elaina in episode 9 was not MC Elaina but Violent Elaina, MC Elaina came from the timeline that was changed by Violent Elaina and Estelle where Selena was killed 10 years ago because of Estelle. This is the LN scene about what happened in Rostolf city from MC Elaina's point of view:@ShiroHachi You said that MC Elaina didn't travel back in time in the city of Rostolf , But she did right ? When she helped Estelle to bring back her friend . So how come it doesn't make sense that MC Elaina asked Violent Elaina if she wants to hear the story of travelling 10 years back in time when she already did that ( MC Elaina ) ? Pls explain cuz I'm confused . "The clock tower stood in the middle of the city, featured prominently in local theater, and was lovely to look at. It made an appearance in the popular play Estelle of District Two, which was perfect for killing time. The play depicted the life of a witch named Estelle, who came to hate evil from the bottom of her heart after her best friend was murdered when she was young. The throwaway ending was a little disappointing, when she said, “Until I find the culprit who killed my best friend, her struggle is not over,” but it was at least good for staving off boredom." You saw the difference, right? MC Elaina didn't help Estelle in this timeline because Selena was already killed 10 years ago So, which Elaina has been since the beginning of the show, has it always been MC Elaina, and they just showed Villian Elaina's POV in episode 9, or has it been Villian Elaina till episode 9, and then they continue with MC Elaina's POV from ep 10 onwards? |
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Shizokami said: So, which Elaina has been since the beginning of the show, has it always been MC Elaina, and they just showed Villian Elaina's POV in episode 9, or has it been Villian Elaina till episode 9, and then they continue with MC Elaina's POV from ep 10 onwards? If I read it right, it would be the first option. And they didn't actually show Violent Elaina's POV, but rather, they made it so that both MC Elaina (the one we always follow in the anime) and Violent Elaina have gone through the time travel event and witnessed Estelle killing Selena. |
| Wait reading the comments really confuses me now. The anime/story is basically from the book MC Elaina wrote with the different ones here, so MC Elaina isnt the Elaina we usually see? How does that affect her character? Is she still all those parts or not? Because this makes it seem like every individual Elaina is a lot more boring than the Elaina we have in the anime and shes only fleshed out because 17 different Elainas make up anime Elaina. Aside from that, when Elaina came back from the time travel she did have long hair while she cried at the end. Was that changed? It certainly fits the episode when we assume MC Elaina never had any traumatic event because in ep12 she doesnt consider Rostolf a sad experience. But this is really confusing. I simultanously want to read the LN more and think it will be disappointing now. I consider the events in EP9 to be one of the strongest points of the story and hoped it would somehow affect Elaina, but when she never experienced that .. meh. The concept is cool because of time travel and alternate dimension versions of her, but the implications worry me. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: damn friend, you confused me much more than I was xDWait reading the comments really confuses me now. The anime/story is basically from the book MC Elaina wrote with the different ones here, so MC Elaina isnt the Elaina we usually see? How does that affect her character? Is she still all those parts or not? Because this makes it seem like every individual Elaina is a lot more boring than the Elaina we have in the anime and shes only fleshed out because 17 different Elainas make up anime Elaina. Aside from that, when Elaina came back from the time travel she did have long hair while she cried at the end. Was that changed? It certainly fits the episode when we assume MC Elaina never had any traumatic event because in ep12 she doesnt consider Rostolf a sad experience. But this is really confusing. I simultanously want to read the LN more and think it will be disappointing now. I consider the events in EP9 to be one of the strongest points of the story and hoped it would somehow affect Elaina, but when she never experienced that .. meh. The concept is cool because of time travel and alternate dimension versions of her, but the implications worry me. |
 a wise user of MAL said: Just to clarify, adaptations should absolutely stand on their own |
Leoradiuju2004 said: maybe I took some comments to serious but if "our" Elaina never was affected by the time travel tragedy this raises the question which of the other stories she has actually experienced. We have a few different Elainas in EP12 and apparently the violent one had the events of EP9, while some of the others certainly had events written in the book which "our" Elaina never experienced. Like Ghoul and Jelly Elaina obviously, unless we have to assume "our" Elaina simply mamaged to turn back. But if that were the case, whats the point of meeting the different hers when she also knows what they know already?Comander-07 said: damn friend, you confused me much more than I was xDWait reading the comments really confuses me now. The anime/story is basically from the book MC Elaina wrote with the different ones here, so MC Elaina isnt the Elaina we usually see? How does that affect her character? Is she still all those parts or not? Because this makes it seem like every individual Elaina is a lot more boring than the Elaina we have in the anime and shes only fleshed out because 17 different Elainas make up anime Elaina. Aside from that, when Elaina came back from the time travel she did have long hair while she cried at the end. Was that changed? It certainly fits the episode when we assume MC Elaina never had any traumatic event because in ep12 she doesnt consider Rostolf a sad experience. But this is really confusing. I simultanously want to read the LN more and think it will be disappointing now. I consider the events in EP9 to be one of the strongest points of the story and hoped it would somehow affect Elaina, but when she never experienced that .. meh. The concept is cool because of time travel and alternate dimension versions of her, but the implications worry me. Clearly they all contributed unique parts to the book, so the question is do we "read" our Elainas diary or the book? We also had episodes without Elaina so all is possible. It doesnt really make it clear and IMO makes it unnecessarily convoluted if we have to split Elaina into different parts. Quite frankly I would be massively disappointed if we have to assume nothing ever affects Elaina. That would be the same boring Kino no Tabi style where the MC doesnt grow. I want Elaina to experience also tragic events, I want her to reference them later on and grow from the experience. Having this "no consequences" approach really pisses me off and Im afraid this episode atleast in the LN implies that. Clearly Elaina experienced the time travel right? Clearly she suffered from it. And she was sad after it, not violent. The only time I know she was violent was when they cut her hair. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: maybe I took some comments to serious but if "our" Elaina never was affected by the time travel tragedy this raises the question which of the other stories she has actually experienced. We have a few different Elainas in EP12 and apparently the violent one had the events of EP9, while some of the others certainly had events written in the book which "our" Elaina never experienced. Like Ghoul and Jelly Elaina obviously, unless we have to assume "our" Elaina simply mamaged to turn back. But if that were the case, whats the point of meeting the different hers when she also knows what they know already? From episode 1 to episode 12, in the anime, we follow MC Elaina and her story. In the anime, she has traveled back in time with Estelle and witnessed Selena's death. Violent Elaina also witnessed that event. In the novel, readers also follow MC Elaina, except she never did the time travel thing. Only Violent Elaina has done it. That's the only difference I see mentioned in this thread (besides the devil Elaina thing). MC Elaina (both in the anime and the novel) didn't know for sure the story of other Elainas, she just assumed Violent Elaina had gone through similar things based on her hair and their conversation (and their similar notes/journals, in the novel). To some extent, we can assume that all Elainas share a similar journey, with some degree of variation in them - but, still, they all arrived at the same point, at the same time. |
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