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Nov 19, 2:04 PM

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Lelouchwakams said:

if you have time to be so salty triggered then at least answer the question of whether you're serious or not. oh wait, no you can't because you don't want to
if you're so mad and unfunny that you use a long dead meme as a "gotcha" i don't see why anyone should take you seriously
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"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
 
Nov 19, 2:34 PM

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Aure0lin said:
Lelouchwakams said:

if you have time to be so salty triggered then at least answer the question of whether you're serious or not. oh wait, no you can't because you don't want to
if you're so mad and unfunny that you use a long dead meme i don't see why anyone should take you seriously


>complaints about using a meme alongside a question of whether he's serious or not ''twice'' then processed to ask about why he should take me seriously and then accuse me of being not funny and mad

so translation is, even if you have the time to be salty triggered you would still not answer the question about you being serious or not.

got it. since you allude of being serious then let me do it for you and put you in your place:

>thinks his opinion of medea [nonsensically] implanting a grail in her to melt away as a demon god pillar instead of manipulating and using jason for it as a plan contradict the official statement about them having all of their memories as a person

congrats my friend, you just played yourself. and that's a dumpster fire of a plan if I ever saw one.
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LeloTheUnamused said:
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still don't see any counter points, the joke is ironically on you
 
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since the other side of the debate is mainly now shitposting and memeing, would pretty much declare thier loss of the argument about the topic for now
 
Nov 19, 3:05 PM

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Lelouchwakams said:
Aure0lin said:
if you're so mad and unfunny that you use a long dead meme i don't see why anyone should take you seriously


>complaints about using a meme alongside a question of whether he's serious or not ''twice'' then processed to ask about why he should take me seriously and then accuse me of being not funny and mad

so translation is, even if you have the time to be salty triggered you would still not answer the question about you being serious or not.

got it. since you allude of being serious then let me do it for you and put you in your place:

>thinks his opinion of medea [nonsensically] implanting a grail in her to melt away as a demon god pillar instead of manipulating and using jason for it as a plan contradict the official statement about them having all of their memories as a person

congrats my friend, you just played yourself. and that's a dumpster fire of a plan if I ever saw one.
whoa that tl;dr sure showed me
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
 
Nov 19, 3:11 PM

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Aure0lin said:
Lelouchwakams said:


>complaints about using a meme alongside a question of whether he's serious or not ''twice'' then processed to ask about why he should take me seriously and then accuse me of being not funny and mad

so translation is, even if you have the time to be salty triggered you would still not answer the question about you being serious or not.

got it. since you allude of being serious then let me do it for you and put you in your place:

>thinks his opinion of medea [nonsensically] implanting a grail in her to melt away as a demon god pillar instead of manipulating and using jason for it as a plan contradict the official statement about them having all of their memories as a person

congrats my friend, you just played yourself. and that's a dumpster fire of a plan if I ever saw one.
whoa that tl;dr sure showed me


>thinks that's a tl;dr...oh no
>thinks leaving ''chessy remarks'' count for something...oh no
>thinks he has something better to show...oh no

tell you what, do better next time and then you may say that. otherwise, this is a JOKE of a replay
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Lelouchwakams said:
Aure0lin said:
whoa that tl;dr sure showed me


>thinks that's a tl;dr...oh no
>thinks leaving ''chessy remarks'' count for something...oh no
>thinks he has something better to show...oh no

tell you what, do better and then say that. otherwise, this is a JOKE of a replay
just stop ok, the >greentexting is pretty sad enough but i think even a newcomer to the thread could tell that you're probably shaking irl
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
 
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My dude, when your plan is trolling you should always avoid becoming so pathetic that people don't want to play anymore because it's not even ironically funny.

I mean

>greentexting on MAL
>implying implications

you know
 
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Aure0lin said:
Lelouchwakams said:


>thinks that's a tl;dr...oh no
>thinks leaving ''chessy remarks'' count for something...oh no
>thinks he has something better to show...oh no

tell you what, do better and then say that. otherwise, this is a JOKE of a replay
just stop ok, the >greentexting is pretty sad enough but i think even a newcomer to the thread could tell that you're probably shaking irl


just stop ok


why? why Should I stop when others' degrailing is fine? why Should I when you don't? seems like someone has more than 1 standard.

the >greentexting is pretty sad enough


you thinks cheesy remarks as a comeback after losing an argument are not? woah, they do say humor is subjective, but I never thought common sense is as well

but i think even a newcomer to the thread could tell that you're probably shaking irl


>yet another cheesy come back just after telling me to stop, being salty knows no limits for you, doesn't it?

>people winning arguments don't skake in IRL other than the satisfication and joy from setting examples of wrong people

your alts and amigos are the least of my concern
 
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LeloTheUnamused said:
My dude, when your plan is trolling you should always avoid becoming so pathetic that people don't want to play anymore because it's not even ironically funny.

I mean

>greentexting on MAL
>implying implications

you know


>loses an argument
>accuse me of trolling

remember kiddoes, when you lose an argument in the internet, just tell them they are trolls and shame them for their style.

top kek my dude. anything that makes you sleep in night
 
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Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him, and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.
 
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Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him, and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.

Yes exactly
All he did had a purpose...saying he was corrupted is taking away from his character
 
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astroprogs said:
Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him, and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.


You're absolutely right, this is stated in FSN, Zero, CCC, Strange Fake and other bits of context regarding it were also given in FGO.

Which is why it's pointless to bring them into this non-argument, since the dude will just gave a completely nonsensical """"interpretation"""" of them and say he is the only one right lmao
He's just insulting others right now, since it's the only thing he can do to generate reactions and replies at this point, and he needs to avoid looking more pathetic than he already is or nobody will reply at all.
 
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astroprogs said:
Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.
It's been a while since I touched the VN but I vaguely recall that one of the little things that happened is that Gilgamesh never undergone a shift in alignment, unlike Saber ---> Saber Alter, just to you know, further drive the point that him being a dick has nothing to do with grail mud, it's just Gil being Gil. I mean, a key part of his legend is that he was indeed a major douchebag, and it took the whole Enkidu thing to get him to chill.
 
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astroprogs said:
Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him, and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.


nah, all nasu said was that gilgamesh was resisting angra so sakura decided to dissolve him. not that he's incorruptable

this was already seen in extella when he was *being corrupted* but still resisting it enough to go the far side and fight off the cause of it.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him,


that's FSN mate, not zero.

and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.


he said his bavhior is influenced by the era he is summoned to, not that he becomes ''genonicidal in FSN because of being summoned in the 2000s''.

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astroprogs said:
Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.

This is reinforced again in Zero when Gil tells AM that he needs to come back with three times that of all the evil in the world to stand a chance in corrupting him, and again in CCC where Nasu flat out tells us that Gil's genocidal tendencies in SN were due to his human blood being affected by the era and not even a single mention of corruption, mud, or AM.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.


You're absolutely right, this is stated in FSN, Zero, CCC, Strange Fake and other bits of context regarding it were also given in FGO.

Which is why it's pointless to bring them into this non-argument, since the dude will just gave a completely nonsensical """"interpretation"""" of them and say he is the only one right lmao
He's just insulting others right now, since it's the only thing he can do to generate reactions and replies at this point, and he needs to avoid looking more pathetic than he already is or nobody will reply at all.


>nothing about it in zero, take an L
>nothing related to Gilamesh spiritron being not normal was mentioned in Grand order

two headcanons in a row. what a record.

>FSN statement was retconned with strange fake and extella. already adressed. recycling it doesn't change that

''nonsensical interpretation''. do you even read the stuff you push for?

resisting = incorruptable = era's influence = genocides tendancies < your interpretation

and that's not even me mentioning other stuff you mentioned that would be laughed at.

This is cut and dry. With something this clear, there's no room for interpretations or theories. Gil can NOT be corrupted.


indeed, it's hard to talk through with a wall when it's set on stone. and a hypocrative one at the top of that, whom ignore facts, retcons and follows their interpretatiosn instead of the facts while pretending otherwise.

if that's not a ''nonsensical interpretation'', I don't know what is.

> calling others pathetic for losing an argument doesn't make you less wrong or cringy. <
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Nilvius said:
astroprogs said:
Ok, so I have read bits and pieces of this thread, but isn't Gil being incorruptable is a freaking plot point in HF? As in, because the shadow couldn't corrupt him and was at the risk of Gil tearing it down from the inside, it decided to assimilate him and use him for mana instead.
It's been a while since I touched the VN but I vaguely recall that one of the little things that happened is that Gilgamesh never undergone a shift in alignment, unlike Saber ---> Saber Alter, just to you know, further drive the point that him being a dick has nothing to do with grail mud, it's just Gil being Gil. I mean, a key part of his legend is that he was indeed a major douchebag, and it took the whole Enkidu thing to get him to chill.


changing an alignment is not the same as becoming an alter

an alter is an alternate version of you that's the extreme side of you:
example: emiya becoming demiya after not making a contract with alaya to become a CG and heading for a buddhist cult ran by kiara where he self destructs.
saber becoming salter after losing all of her humanity and becoming the perfect lion king in her eyes.

Goldie also becomes chiller after enkidu passes away. why do you think the dude has an NP called enkidu?

dunno why do I even have to explain to this but this is mal so..
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>changing an alignment is not the same as becoming an alter

>an alter is an alternate version of you that's the extreme side of you:

How does it feel to argue with yourself?

>Goldie also becomes chiller after enkidu passes away. why do you think the dude has an NP called enkidu?

Gil becomes chiller a "few" years after Enkidu's death and his alignment changes. And yet Archer gil has the same one his does in all of his appearances.

Wait....


>JoinedNov 17, 2019
>Merlin profile pic.


I see now.
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Lelouchwakams said:
changing an alignment is not the same as becoming an alter
You're getting the cause and effect ass backwards. Saber got mud grailed and become Alter HENCE the alignment shift to show that she is indeed corrupted. The alignment shift is the RESULT of said corruption.

Lelouchwakams said:
dunno why do I even have to explain to this but this is mal so...
Yeah, I'm asking myself the same question too.
 
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It depends...Artoria lancer alter still being Lawful-Good
 
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